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Middle East
Prisoners’ Fate Key To Mideast Talks
2003-08-03
Notice how good the paleo PR machine is with the press? The Paleos haven’t met one promise made in the Roadmap™, yet now the release of all paleo terrorists/prisoners, a condition found no-where in the Roadmap™ is "key" to peace. So it’s still the Jooooos’ fault
Since Haifa Jawat Amasi married her husband in 1986, she figures he has been picked up and imprisoned by Israeli security officers at least 15 times, usually for four to six months. He has never been charged with a crime, she said, nor has he ever been accused of participating in any violence.
But her husband, Ismail Mohammed Amasi, 41, is a senior political officer in the radical Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), a militant group that, during the 34-month Palestinian uprising, has participated in 20 attacks in which 28 Israelis have been killed, according to Israeli, Palestinian and media accounts.
part of the political wing is he? what’s the diff? none
The political wing picks the targets, the military wing puts together the attacks...
On June 24, 2002, Israeli soldiers went to the family’s house and detained Amasi. He was not charged with a crime, nor was he allowed to see any of the evidence against him. In a secret proceeding, a military judge ruled that, under Israeli law, Amasi was a security risk to Israel and ordered him held in a process known as "administrative detention" for the maximum period of six months. The detention has been extended twice, for six months each time, and comes up for review again on Dec. 24. Israeli officials said they could not answer specific questions about the case, but they confirmed that Amasi had been in detention since June. "He’s always been imprisoned or detained administratively," without being charged and without a trial, said his wife. "They are all political accusations. He’s a PFLP official, and they say he’s dangerous to the security of Israel when he’s outside of prison."
Don't suppose he'd consider getting an honest job?... No. That'd never work...
Amasi is one of the thousands of Palestinians being held in Israeli jails who have become a central stumbling block in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. Palestinian officials maintain that virtually all of the people being held — their numbers range from about 5,900 to 7,500, depending on who is counted and who does the counting — are political prisoners who should be freed, even those charged with murder. Israeli officials say that many are terrorists who present a security risk or who have "blood on their hands," meaning those who have been involved in a violent attack.
even those charged with murder? I thought they were all innocent political prisoners who loved kittens, puppies and baby ducks...just not Jooooish ones
The Palestinian minister for prisoner affairs, Hisham Abdel-Razek, has rejected the "blood on their hands" standard, saying in a state of war, even Palestinians locked up for violent crimes should be released because "they did what they did in the framework of the conflict and our people’s resistance of the occupation. Whoever they view as a murderer is viewed by the Palestinian people as a hero, and vice-versa."
But the Paleos aren't the ones who have them locked up. And the Israelis don't want them to be "heroic" again...
But a senior Israeli military attorney said that in any type of conflict, "a person who intentionally targets civilians is a war criminal. International law in no way condones the intentional targeting of noncombatants. No one gets a reprieve for that. That’s why we feel very comfortable that people who are terrorists — we don’t release them very easily."
And shouldn't, as a matter of self-preservation...
The prisoners have become an issue as both sides wrangle over a U.S.-backed peace initiative called the "road map." The initiative — drafted by the United States, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations — does not specifically address the prisoners, but their release has been demanded by the government of Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas as a confidence-building gesture from Israel. More importantly, Palestinian militant groups have demanded a mass release of prisoners in return for the three-month cease-fire they declared on June 29.
"does not specifically address the prisoners" = they aren’t mentioned at all. Nice spin. Wearing a keffiyah while writing this dreck?
Seems pretty important to them for a mere "confidence building" measure.
So far, according to Palestinian officials, Israel has released one batch of 135 prisoners — on the day before the June 4 summit meeting in Jordan among Abbas, President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Israeli officials say they have released 250 Palestinian prisoners. The discrepancy between the two figures could not immediately be reconciled. Three weeks ago, the Israeli cabinet approved the release of 400 more prisoners, but none was set free, Israeli and Palestinian officials agree. On Sunday, the cabinet revisited the issue and decided to release a total of 540 prisoners, including about 210 from the radical group Islamic Jihad and the Islamic Resistance Movement, known as Hamas. It was unclear when the group would be freed. About 120 of the prisoners slated for release are common criminals who are being included just to boost the total, Palestinian officials charge.
Don't want 'em? No problem...
Palestinians say the releases, assuming they happen, are inadequate. According to statistics compiled by Abdel-Razek’s office, more than 4,400 of the Palestinians being held by Israel have not been put on trial, including more than 700 being held, like Amasi, in administrative detention. Furthermore, Palestinians officials say, only 330 Palestinians being held have been convicted of violent crimes. Of 2,668 Palestinians currently in the custody of the Israel Prisons Service, 1,715 were incarcerated for violent crimes, including 589 on charges of killing Israelis, a prisons service spokeswoman said. She was unable to provide statistics on how many had been convicted and how many were awaiting trial.
So find out.
Israeli government and military officials acknowledge the importance of releasing Palestinian prisoners to nurture the peace process and boost the standing of Abbas and his three-month-old, appointed government. But Israeli officials say they will not approve a wholesale release, arguing that doing so would reverse the results of more than two years of capturing Palestinian militants and terrorists, which they say has improved Israel’s security. Pointing out that the Israeli casualties include many civilians who were killed in suicide bombings, the Israeli government has argued that the conflict is a fight against terrorism that requires tough security measures.
And the incarceration of the men behind the boomers. They can't do anything to the boomers — they're rotting in hell with their 72-year-old virgin. But the controllers are even more guilty than the cannon fodder...
Administrative detention allows Israeli military judges to detain a person for up to six months, with an unlimited number of extensions, if there are "reasonable grounds to presume that the security of the area or public security require the detention," according to excerpts of the law translated by the Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem. According to a report by the group, Israeli authorities "use administrative detention as a quick and efficient alternative to criminal trial, primarily when they do not have sufficient evidence to charge the individual, or when they do not want to reveal their evidence."
A system of court martials would make more sense — with an active firing squad. But they're squeamish, so it's being used against them...
The senior Israeli military attorney said that administrative detention — which has been used to hold Israelis as well as Palestinians — is an effort to strike "a very difficult balance between human rights and military necessity." The problem, he said, was that few Palestinians ever agree to testify against another Palestinian, and "in many cases there’s no public evidence, but we do have secret evidence" based on witness or intelligence sources that cannot be revealed. In the course of an investigation, he said, the Israelis hope that public evidence comes to light, but if it doesn’t, the next best option is to take the suspect into administrative detention. "We prefer a public trial. It looks better and it is better," he said. "Administrative detention is a very bad compromise."
The solution to that would be closed and classified trials, which would cause further bitching and moaning...
The case of Asma Abu Heija is the sort that stirs passions on both sides and illustrates the difficulty of trying to satisfy Israel’s security concerns and Palestinian demands for transparency and fairness. Asma’s husband, Jamal Abu Heija, is a senior Hamas leader in the West Bank town of Jenin, about 45 miles north of Jerusalem. He was arrested 11 months ago. Israeli security officials said Jamal Abu Heija was the head of the military wing of Hamas in Jenin and was behind an Aug. 4, 2002, suicide bombing of a bus in northern Israel that killed nine people. Security officials say he was also a mastermind of the August 2001 Sbarro restaurant bombing in Jerusalem, in which 15 Israelis were killed. But Jamal Abu Heija has not been charged or brought to trial, according to his family, who assert that he is a political leader of Hamas. They say Israeli prosecutors have neither evidence nor witnesses who can testify against him. Israeli officials would not say whether he has been charged or why he is being held.
Yep. The witnesses are all dead. Or can be made so...
On Feb. 11, Jamal Abu Heija’s family said, Israeli security forces detained his wife. The family says that the Israelis continue to hold her without charges as an administrative detainee to pressure her husband to talk. Five of their children between ages 7 and 18 have been left at home under the revolving-door care of various relatives. "They arrested the wife just to exert pressure on the father," said Khaled Ghanem, 22, one of the relatives who helps care for the children. But releasing her would not create goodwill toward Israel or help the fledgling peace process, he said. "No matter what I tell these children, their experiences will stay with them," he said. "Even if I wanted to talk to them about peace, how could I dare to?"
"And certainly I'd talk to them about Peace™! We all yearn for Peace™. We want it for The Children™..."
Israeli officials denied the family’s accusations. A senior security source said the wife was arrested based on evidence that she was involved in "accepting and passing" terrorist money and knowingly using a bank account in her name for terrorist funds.
I’ve got an idea: finish the wall, and release all these bastards into the new Paleo hellholes in the Gaza, West Bank enclosures. I’m sure the Paleo people want these gangsters, thugs, murderers, terrorists released back into their midst. I expected a little bit less bias from the WaPost...boy am I naive
Posted by:Frank G

#4  Don't discount the value of momentum in warfare. Once you stop, you have to get started again. Even a three-month break in the Bad Guys' activity has value. And don't forget that a certain number of people -- on both sides -- are going to live three months longer.

Before you can move on to step 4, you've got to take steps 1, 2, and 3. The diplowars going on at the moment are fascinating -- they're just not as comprehensible as the shooting war was four months ago.
Posted by: Fred   2003-8-3 3:19:37 PM  

#3  The Paleos haven’t met one promise made in the Roadmap™, yet now the release of all paleo terrorists/prisoners, a condition found no-where in the Roadmap™ is "key" to peace.

The problem is that no one is calling them on it. GWB isn't calling them on it, and Ariel Sharon isn't calling them on it. And I think I know why: the fear of the likely resumption (as if it wasn't going to be resumed anyway at some point in time) of suicide/murder bombings in the aftermath of abandonment of the "roadmap". Well screw the Palestinians. Having a knife at your throat constantly is no way to live, so when these bastards start their suicide/murder bombing campaign again in earnest, the IDF should simply invade en masse and kill every single terrorist they can get their hands on, including Arafart.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2003-8-3 2:11:43 PM  

#2  The funding of the political 'wing' and the terrorist 'wings' are intermingled. The Administration knows this, the Congress knows this. The Israeli govt knows this. Even the Wa Post knows this. All of them pretend otherwise because they think they are helping the road map. Very risky.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-8-3 11:11:42 AM  

#1  The "human" interest premise of this article is a fatuous inanity. Oh, he is a member of the political wing of the party. I suppose he is in charge of approving ethanol subsidies and NEA grants. Bet he's never ordered or directed attacks on civilians. My heart goes out to his poor wife. Let's take up the collection plate so that she can get a pocket rocket good legal representation for her cuddly hubby.
And as far as the scornful, reproving tone of the portions that describe Israel's tardiness in getting these people trials, keep in mind the similar tact of the United States in dealing with to its terror prisoners at Gitmo as well as the al-Hamdi and Garcia (AKA abu-Dirty Bomb).
Posted by: af   2003-8-3 10:10:06 AM  

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