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| Why some people support OBL |
| 2003-06-14 |
| Here is something we should all keep in mind: Global Islam does not need an actual terrorist structure, just enough people that agree/support the ideals and they can act alone/ organise a small group to do damage from the petty to the monstrous. To better understand (so we can fight it) the ideological support for Binny, here are the words of a supporter (ed for length, posted on an Islamist website published in the USA www.as-sahwah.com): I support Sheikh Osama bin Laden (hafidhahullah) because it is my understanding that he is acting according to Quran and Sunnah, and that in doing his duty, as a Muslim, he is obeying Allah (SWT) and Allah (SWT) alone. Everything that he does and says is motivated by his desire to do what is right, as judged by Quran and Sunnah. I support him because it is my understanding that he is a devout and humble Muslim, much given to remembering Allah (SWT). In truth, I support him - and applaud his actions - because he is an excellent example of all the virtues that a good Muslim should aspire to, as even a brief knowledge of his life will show. He has spent many, many years of life living simply, among the Mujahideen, fighting the kuffar, risking his life everyday. He has given up a life of luxury to do his Islamic duty. For over a year he and a few Mujahideen have outwitted the combined military might, and the money, of the kuffar. Thus, it is my view that he is and should be an inspiration, an example, a role model, for Muslims, young and old. However, I know there are Muslims who do not support Sheikh Osama bin Laden (hafidhahullah) and who condemn his actions and those of the Muslims who have been inspired by him. If they are sincere in their objections, then they should produce evidence, from Quran and Sunnah, and this should be discussed. It might be that, after such a discussion, we agree to differ, in a reasonable way. This is the honourable, the Muslim, thing to do. Furthermore - and of vital importance - if the kuffar decide to attack and kill Muslims, if they decide to and do invade a Muslim land, if they humiliate Muslims, if they seek to replace our Islamic values, our Way of Life, with their own, if they ask us to help find and capture and hand-over to them one of our brothers, our sisters, then we should and must forget our differences, and - as Muslims - unite to fight the kuffar. "Then fight in Allah's cause - you will be held responsible only for yourself." Al-Nisa:84 Interpretation of MeaningFor it is much better not to betray a fellow Muslim to the kuffar - even if that Muslim might be wrong - than it is to allow the kuffar to shed Muslim blood. "Whoever protects the honour of his brother, Allah will protect his face from hell on the Day of Judgment." (Ahmad and Tirmidhi).Therefore, what we should do is unite, and fight the kuffar. SNIP the spittle and on to the religious justification for Binnie Laden "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out." [2:191 Interpretation of Meaning]"Your wish for the Crusaders should be the same as in this verse of poetry: The only language between you and us is the sword that will strike your necks." Sheikh Usama bin Laden (hafidhahullah) Abdul Aziz 18 Thul-Hujja 1423 This one's for you, Celissa ;) |
| Posted by:Anon1 |
| #7 The religion of peace, the religion of tolerance. What the hell ever happened to the respect due the "People of the Book". |
| Posted by: Someone who did NOT vote for William Proxmire 2003-06-14 10:18:09 |
| #6 11a,and Scot are both right kill the"Rabid Dogs" starting with the hate preaching Imams,and any gunnies that get in the way. |
| Posted by: raptor 2003-06-15 08:38:18 |
| #5 SWDNVFWP: Given contradictions in the Koran about how to treat Christians and Jews, the hard core Salafists/Wahabis have taken the view that the harsher passages were uttered by Mohammed later than the more tolerant ones and that the tolerant passages were therefore nullified. (This is not the best source, but I 'm in too much of a hurry to search for a better link.) In other words, Allah tried being nice and all, but those damn Christians and Jews wouldn't play nice with Mohammed, so Allah changed his mind and decided to give Mohammed permission to go f--- them up. You can't reason with people like this. Only kill them. And I don't say this in anger. To me it's like putting down a rabid dog. You don't hate it. It's just too late to save it. |
| Posted by: 11A5S 2003-06-14 19:26:28 |
| #4 We have not yet shown the situational awareness to go after the immams. Targeting the party leaders like Rantissi is a positive step, but the eventual fight is with radical islam itself. Jihadic islam depends on the interpretation of the Quran, and that means the preachers. Witness Khomeni, -no ayatollah, no overthrowah. Not all muslim sects believe in violent jihad. It takes an ideologue to produce the necessary momentum. If we don't start grasping this and taking the fight to that level, we're gonna see the destabilization of many new eastern and western societies. Don't you think Mexico would be a ripe target for a religious, revolutionary message? |
| Posted by: Scott 2003-06-14 17:29:23 |
| #3 If Islam leaves us no choice other than join or die, we will accept the alternative of destroying Islam. Since we (the non-Islamic nations of the world) have about 400 times the firepower of all Islam combined, guess who wins? IF there are no living adherents to a religion, does it continue? If that's the ONLY OPTION, we will exercise it. The Immams should consider that when they next decide to declare a "holy war". |
| Posted by: Old Patriot 2003-06-14 15:42:54 |
| #2 What the hell ever happened to the respect due the "People of the Book". Ask the Jews and Christians in Egypt. Or Saudi Arabia. |
| Posted by: lkl 2003-06-14 15:22:35 |
| #1 Well, that kinda rules out reasoned discourse and negotiation, does it not? A Million Hugs won't hack it with these chaps. |
| Posted by: Alaska Paul 2003-06-14 13:33:17 |