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Iraq
Fedayeen tactics so far in Iraq
2003-03-24
Heavily edited to just the Fedayeen story
Specially trained paramilitary guerrillas and Saddam Hussein's security forces are leading the stiffest resistance to the U.S.-led invasion, trying to keep Iraqi soldiers from surrendering and organizing battlefield tricks that have inflicted casualties, U.S. and British officials said Sunday.
Most of those "tricks" are of the "use once" variety. The net effect will be to make it more difficult for Iraqis to surrender. That might be what they have in mind, but there will come a time when surrender will be necessary...
Members of the Fedayeen Saddam are suspected of having organized battlefield ruses using civilian clothes and cars and fake surrenders of Iraqi soldiers that drew in U.S. forces to be attacked in places like An Nasiriyah and Umm Qasr, the officials said. The Fedayeen are elite inner-circle soldiers totaling about 15,000 that report directly to one of Saddam's sons. U.S. intelligence believes they were dispatched from their strongholds in the Baghdad area to outlying areas over the last few weeks to embolden regular Iraqi troops, the officials said, like others speaking on condition of anonymity.
More like, to kill the guys that don't want to get killed by the allied forces...
Intelligence indicates ``they are there to enforce loyalty and to make troops more effective and keep them from defecting,'' one senior U.S. official said. Officials said the Fedayeen and Saddam's personal security force, known as the Special Security Organization, have been behind the stiffest resistance coalition troops have encountered as they raced from Kuwait through the south toward Baghdad. ``The majority of the resistance we have faced so far comes from Saddam's Special Security Organization and the Saddam Fedayeen,'' said Peter Wall, chief of staff to the British military contingent in the the U.S.-led coalition. ``These are men who know that they will have no role in the building of a new Iraq and they have no future.''
We expected the regular army to be a bunch of sad sacks, and they are. These guys are the party members, defending their power...
The role of the Fedayeen came as U.S. military leaders cautioned Sunday that the toughest days of the war are still ahead even as coalition forces raced to within 100 miles of Baghdad. The Fedayeen are specially trained in guerilla warfare and paramilitary tactics and in years past have been used by Saddam's regime to oppress internal foes. The force has been commanded by Odai Hussein, Saddam's eldest son.
I guess he's their inspiration...
The battlefriend ruses that led to U.S. casualties on Sunday, such as the use of civilian disguise and fake surrenders, are signature tactics of the Fedayeen, a senior U.S. military official said Sunday. ``They're specialists in this form of warfare, and we've seen them dress in civilian clothing or drive civilian vehicles,'' the official said. He said military planners were already making adjustments to ensure U.S. forces can detect and repel such tactics.
Toldja — the tactics are mostly of the "use once" variety. But they've probably got a few more still to use...
Earlier this month, U.S. officials claimed Fedayeen were acquiring military uniforms ``identical down to the last detail'' to those worn by American and British forces and planned to use them to shift blame for atrocities. "Saddam intends to issue these uniforms to Fedayeen Saddam troops who would wear them when conducting reprisals against the Iraqi people so that they could pass the atrocities off as the work of the United States and the United Kingdom,'' Jim Wilkinson, director of strategic communication at Central Command.
If the Fedayeen are caught in civvies, or while organizing a fake surrender, then we have certain rights, don't we.
Posted by:Steve White

#15  I can see how were trying to hide things because I watched a live real time uncensored frontline firefight on saturday night in Umm Qasr. I dont see any other army doing that sort of thing, but them again, I dont see any other army in history moving 300 miles in 4 days with 175,000 troops.

Somebody warm up to the whaaaaa-ambulance for Murat.
Posted by: Frank Martin   2003-03-24 17:51:04  

#14  Murat, the US also flew casualties from Afghanistan to Germany. Nothing is being hidden.

Why Germany? Good hospitals. We've had 50 years to set up good military hospitals at our German bases, and flying the wounded there is cheaper than building new hospitals everywhere.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2003-03-24 13:19:11  

#13  The article says there are 15,000 of them. Someone needs to get a scorecard handy, and start marking off the ones we kill. Let Sadsack know just how many "trusty warriors" he has left.

As for Baghdad, the best strategy is to surround the city, then begin evacuating the civilians, a street at a time. Once all the civilians are out, drop all of Sadsack's "WMD" on the city, let it sit for a couple of years, then go in and fumigate the place. Won't even be any vermin left.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2003-03-24 13:01:37  

#12  Hey, they're sticking their head up now. As much as you think that is an inconvience, it makes life a lot easier later on when you have to hunt them down. Let's understand that in the great triumph in France in '44, there were fights in the ports like Cherbourg and through Brittany while Patton was driving East. Some of the cleaning up of enemy forces in France lasted till the surrender in '45.

These Dead Enders have no life after Saddam, because if we don't do them in, the liberated Iraqis will. Just keep in mind there are going to be even more of them in the big city.
Posted by: Don   2003-03-24 11:45:12  

#11  Hey, Sammy's got a modern day version of the SS. What a surprise! But the peacemongers say Bush is Hitler. I'm so confused!
Posted by: tu3031   2003-03-24 11:02:50  

#10  Fuck that. Round the bastards up, and shoot them in the fucking foreheads on national TV.

Fair is fair.
Posted by: mojo   2003-03-24 10:22:42  

#9  I watched the C-130 land in Germany live on CNN this morning. Keep trying, Murat.
Posted by: VAMark   2003-03-24 10:04:04  

#8  The real payback comes after the war. Ex-soldiers will be strung up in the streets by people who weren't on Saddam's payroll.
Posted by: Anonymous   2003-03-24 08:45:31  

#7  Bulldog, no conspiracy theories buddy, it is clear that CNN is hiding or holding back some news which appears on Al Jazeera.
Posted by: Murat   2003-03-24 05:03:30  

#6  Murat, I've just been watching live TV footage of wounded US troops being unloaded for treatment in Germany, en route back to the US. Hardly "hidden". Think up something more exciting next time if you're looking for conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-03-24 03:48:55  

#5  Last night a C-130 full with wounded US soldiers landed in Turkey, why didn’t they bring the wounded back to Kuwait or Qatar? I guess the army is hiding her casualties and wounded not to demoralize the troops and the public at home.
Posted by: Murat   2003-03-24 02:26:57  

#4  Best to hold them and find out who issued the orders, destroy the Iraqi government and then hold our own military tribunals.
Posted by: badanov   2003-03-24 00:57:32  

#3  downside to killing them is that the Iraqis will claim we are killing prisoners, our media will show them as dead civilians.

Best to hold them until the end of the war, and turn them over to the new government for revenge.
Posted by: flash91   2003-03-24 00:52:16  

#2  As illegal combatants they have no protection under the Geneva Accords - indeed their false flag (using the white flag as a ruse to attack) marks them as being completely unstrustorthy. They can (and should be, IMHO) summarily executed, bodies thrown by the side of the road and left for the crows. This accomplishes a couple of things.

1. It stops them from being a further threat - they have already shown that they will not abide by civilized rules, so we should for security reasons eliminate them as a threat.

2. It sets a vivid example for the Fedayeen what their fate will be should they violate the Laws of War.

3. It demonstrates to the regular Iraqi army and civilians that we will act to A) prevent them from being attacked by such animals, and B) highly discourages any of them from taking similar actions.

4. It sends a very clear message to anyone that uses illegal combatants what their fate will be.
Posted by: OldSpook   2003-03-24 00:43:21  

#1  The article says there are 15,000 of them. Someone needs to get a scorecard handy, and start marking off the ones we kill. Let Sadsack know just how many "trusty warriors" he has left.

As for Baghdad, the best strategy is to surround the city, then begin evacuating the civilians, a street at a time. Once all the civilians are out, drop all of Sadsack's "WMD" on the city, let it sit for a couple of years, then go in and fumigate the place. Won't even be any vermin left.
Posted by: Old Patriot   3/24/2003 1:01:37 PM  

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