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Fifth Column
Anti-War Questions and Answers
2003-02-15
Commies,  burned-out hippies, loons, anti-Americans, anarchists, anti-Globalists, and riff-raff show their displeasure at most everythingWe are nearing the anti-war demos of Feb. 15-16. These will occur all over the world in an unprecedented display of international anti-war and pro-justice solidarity. In this message we wanted to convey a new question and answer piece regarding anti-war activism.
Click on the foto if you're interested in the original answers to the questions or if you're in need of a powerful soporofic...
1. As anti-war sentiment grows and the anti-war movement gains momentum, what are the most important priorities for peace and justice organizations?
To build a movement able to marshal sufficient numbers of sufficiently informed and committed people to compel ruling elites around the world, and ultimately in the US, to restrain or even terminate their war designs out of fear of the repercussions of their not doing so. That means getting lots of chicks to come out for these rallies. We need lotsa chicks, preferably naked. If they're naked, you're halfway there, right? And nobody can ignore a naked chick, unless maybe it's another naked chick.
2. From progressive organizations, you sometimes hear the demand, "Let the inspections work." Is this a sensible demand? Should the Left back inspections?
The demand "Let the inspections work" has three meanings, one that the Left should endorse, one that is reasonable but inadequate, and one that is immoral and quite dangerous. We're just not sure what they are. The alternative to inspections would be to either do something of substance, and that would mean the world would lose a perfectly good dictator, or to do nothing, which is what we'd like best, of course. Now, if the Man, the Powers That Be, the Establishment, felt that having the inspections was a good thing, we'd obviously have to change what we think, and we could denounce them as unwarranted interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign dictatorship and demand that they stop. Then we could go back to bitching about the sanctions, which are another alternative to war, and which haven't worked, but we won't admit that. See? And what about all those dead babies, huh?
3. What should the Left be calling for in response to terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, etc.?
There are two parts to the Left response to terrorism. First, the US Left ought to demand that its government cease carrying out and supporting terrorism. Like, you know the U.S. is the greatest terrorist threat in the world, don't you? 'Cause of, ummm... Chile. They did something there, man, and it was, like gross. Terrorism, of course, is not confined to Muslim fundamentalists crashing planes into the World Trade Center. It is terrorism also to bomb Afghanistan knowing that reputable aid agencies warned of a potential humanitarian catastrophe. I mean, you never read about it when it happened, and people don't talk about it, but that's why it's silent genocide. As for anti-Western terrorism, just ignore it, man. It doesn't apply to us. Probably doesn't even apply to anyone we know. If the U.S. would just change its entire foreign policy, and the structure of its government, and put us in charge, then it would all go away.
4. Should we, and if so how should we, emphasize the economic costs of the war?
The reason to oppose a war, first and foremost, is that it is immoral, not that it will cost a lot. I mean, like, all war is immoral, except for when it's run by Third World dictatorships, and fighting back is immoral, too.
5. What are the links between oppressions at home and the war abroad?
War is corporate globalization writ violent. Corporate globalization is capitalist market competition writ international. The connection between war and the basic institutions we live within is unbreakable. So we have to, like, smash the state, y'know?
6. Why does the "peace movement" seem to be disproportionately white and middle class?
In the US, polls show that African-Americans are more skeptical of war than the population as a whole. Nevertheless, it's probably still the case that current demonstrations are disproportionately white and middle class. But to a considerable extent this is a function of which sectors of society can most easily take the time and expense to travel to major anti-war events. I mean, like, Negroes can't even afford bus fare to come out and demonstrate in favor of Sammy. Can you believe that? Is this country hosed or what?
7. What can social change organizations do to break down internal race, gender and class disparities?
On the one hand, there is the need to reach out to underrepresented constituencies with information and organization. On the other hand, there are things that need to be done to our movements and their agendas. So, basically, was we really need is more chicks. Once you get the chicks — and I'm talkin' chicks who put out, man! — then you get the guys. And once you've got that, you've got, like a movement, y'know? You don't have to worry about the financing, because we've got, like, Soddies and Libyans and student unions to take care of that...
8. As we respond to the current crisis, how can we make choices that will ensure that we have a stronger, larger, and more deeply connected movement six months from now?
There is a tendency in all organizing to focus, very understandably, on the immediate present. We want to get some task done. In this case we want to prevent a war — or perhaps if that fails, to end one. But y'gotta think in the long term, man, like two, three, maybe even four months down the road, and who knows what's gonna happen then?
9. Should we be doing more to link to international movements?
In a word, yes. The international opposition to this war, and war in general, and to corporate globalization, and to racism and market exploitation — and so on — is currently magnificent in scale, breadth, diversity, and energy. I mean, we got chicks from all over the world show up.
10. How do we measure success?
Too many people think that success is a function of numbers of people, or whether some short term goal is attained or not — such as closing down an elite meeting. It isn't. It's volume, man. The more noise you make, the more attention you get. The more attention you get, the more likely you are to get on television. What we are doing is, or ought to be, always conceived and measured in terms of the overall struggle for peace and justice, not a momentary aim. Otherwise, the teevee guys will ignore us.
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#6  "Unfortunately it would take another major conflict of their very survival..."
There are some who even then would blame the whole thing on the US. I've experienced firsthand the pathological hatred for the US, based on absolute delusion, fueled by an utter lack of intellect. And I'm not an American, so I can look at this objectively.
Posted by: RW   2003-02-15 19:09:55  

#5  Frank, Don't forget that despite the appallingly big turnout at the anti-US rally in London today, there are plenty over here who still support the US and what your nation stands for. It's true there are those who have lost their grip on the reality of international politics, and some whose version of morality is so deranged they reject the idea of challenging Saddam. However there are plenty here who remember their history and recognise the tremendous debt the free world owes to the United States, and the sacrifices you've made fighting wars started because of the idiocy of others.

The world has been a safe place for so long that many ordinary people have lost sight of what's important and what's worth fighting for. They have no concept of what life without freedom is like, let alone what life under tyranical oppression is like. Unfortunately it would take another major conflict of their very survival to bring these moral zombies to their senses and shake the scales from their eyes.

I know it's just one voice here and it must feel as though the whole world is showing you the middle finger at the moment, but keep the faith, guys, because you are doing the right thing.
Posted by: Bulldog   2003-02-15 18:17:25  

#4  You know, I'm just tired of waiting. Let's roll. What's the holdup?
Posted by: john   2003-02-15 18:07:43  

#3  It's easy to put on a protest against the US ( notice I've stopped saying the protests are anti-war, lets start calling it what it is shall we?, Its Anti-American, Anti-Jewish, Anti-Capitalism, Anti-Freedom. )

Where were these people when Genocide was being committed in Rwanda? Were these people standing in protest when the Taliban took power in Afghanistan? Has any tyrant or dictator ever been protested by the someone who susbscribes to the 'socialist worker'?

Let's start telling the truth, these people dont believe in peace. They are willing to live with the very worst kinds of terror and fear,as long as its the poor non-white people of the world that are effected and not their own bubblegum pink asses. They say "we need to respect their cultural values, and they dont want democracy, why, you know that silly little Arabs cant handle democracy"

The people in these protests feel powerless, they know they cant stop Saddam and the rest of the worlds butchering dictators,because, well, someone might get hurt. But they know they can "protest the US", and as a result they feel like they are "doing something".

However, what they are doing is standing in solidarity with men who will kill any one of them in a heartbeat, not for a reason, just for damn meanness.

Once upon a time, liberals and the left stood for liberty and the inalienable rights of all mankind. Today, its stands for the rights of dictators and madmen who are actively developing weapons that will kill millions of us.

They stand in solidarity with the government of France, who just this week, invited Robert Mugabe to their country to celebrate the signing of an agreement with his government to purchase new aircraft from france.

All this while mugabe has created a government sponsored famine which has resulted in the deaths of thousands. When asked about this Mugabe is reported to have said " Our country could do with a few million less mouths to feed".

They stand in solidarity with a governemnt who while it had the ability to inact sanctions against Iraq for its not living up to requirements of disaarmament, has gone right ahead and sold arms and technologies directly to the same country. They stand in solidarity with a government who worked with the government of iraq to develop a nuclear reactor for the express purpose of creating nuclear weapons to kill Millions of isrealis.

While millions of Iraqis starve, France has grown rich on the contracts with the dictator of iraq.

And yet, the US is considered the worlds devil. And yet, we are the ones who are protested when we ask the world to live up to its own laws.

Where were these people when we were digging our dead out of the WTC? Did they stand in solidarity in Pennsylvania for the victims of flight 93? THe victims of Bali? Of Kabul under the Taliban?

I know where they were, They stood in pubs of england, cafe's of france and teh gasthauses of germany and said "good, its about time they got whats coming to them"

The crocodile tears they shed for our dead should not be ignored. Its time for the world to decide whos side they are on, its time for us to decide who our friends are and who our enemys are.

Do these people stand in solidarity with the little girls who stood in line to board flight 92, or with the terrorist Mohammed Atta who stood in the same line, knowing that the children in his line were going to die as a result of his actions?


Its time to leave europe, its time to leave the UN. Its time for those countries who are democracies and believe in freedom to stand up and be counted.

They rest can be prepare themselves to be defended by France.

Posted by: Frank Martin   2003-02-15 16:50:05  

#2  Don't even think of taking away Arafart's Baby Wipes, dude! You want that spittle to start flyin' again? Remember Tangiers, and how ugly *that* got?...
Posted by: mojo   2003-02-15 15:46:57  

#1  Hey! Palestine Chronicle! There's an objective source! "No Blood For Oil!" "No Babywipes For Yasser!"
Posted by: tu3031   2003-02-15 14:54:10  

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