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India-Pakistan
Indian mother presses for MiG ban
2003-02-04
Amazing what you find at the BBC.
The mother of an Indian fighter pilot killed in a crash two years ago has begun a campaign against the use of Russian-made MiGs by the Indian air force. Kavita Gadgil's 27-year-old son, Abhijit, was flying a MiG-21 fighter aircraft when it went down in the Indian state of Rajasthan. More than one 150 Indian fighter planes have crashed in the past 10 years.
That's a high attrition rate. The Indians might want to fix that prior to engaging in India-Pakistan IV.
Experts blame a lack of training facilities and poor maintenance for the crashes.
Thank goodness we have experts to tell us this.
Abhijit Gadgil was on a routine flight. Today, still unconvinced about the airworthiness of the aircraft, Ms Gadgil has found a way to deal with her tragedy. She has formed a group of people who seek what she calls a "rational explanation" for the continuing MiG crashes.
The expert just 'plained it, ma'am. Sorry about your son.
Speaking to the BBC, Ms Gadgil said the Abhijit Air Safety Foundation was formed on 21 December 2002, an anniversary of the day her son was commissioned into the Indian air force. More than 100 people, including doctors and engineers have already joined the group, Ms Gadgil said.

She added: "We will be creating pressure groups and we want the government to make public the results of all the MiG crash inquiries." "My son's death is just a statistic now as so many fighter pilots have gone down after his death," she said. "The real cause of the accidents is not being revealed."
The expert just 'plained it, ma'am. Sorry about your son. Her elder son, Kedar Gadgil, said they were prepared to approach the courts and file a case against the flying of MiGs.
There's any number of pilots, airedales and mechanics around the world that would join such a suit.
The Gadgil family alleges there is something wrong with the aircraft, but the government is not even willing to publicly announce the results of crash inquiries.
Of course they won't announce the results. They bought lousy planes and are stuck with them. It's not like they can buy F-18 Super Hornets. Or even F-20 Super Tigers.
"India has lost so many talented and young pilots already in these crashes," Ms Kavita Gadgil said. But Indian defence officials say human error rather than technical fault is one of the major reasons for crashes.
Already laying out their defense for when Johnnie Cochran sues them in a California court in a product liability suit.
The air force says it is taking necessary measures to reduce the number of accidents.
Are they buying new airplanes?
An air force spokesman, Squadron Leader SN Dhingra, told the BBC the newly-formed association was an emotional reaction of the families of the pilots. He said: "During the last five years, we have specified before parliament the cause of the MiG accidents - whether hit by birds or human error."
That's a lot of birds. Face it, Squadron Leader, you have bad airplanes, and your own pilots are saying this down at the O-club. Count on it.
Posted by:Steve White

#6  The F-20, truly one of the great 'might have beens' was never produced beyond the testing phase. Overseas contracts were fufilled largely by the F-16 and upgrades to the existing F-5 airframes, the F-5 continues to server on in the air forces of many contries. The F-5 was a replacement in many airforces to the F-104.

On a side note, in 1994 I got to see my first Mig-21 up close at an import organization that was buying them on the cheap from countries like poland and china. When I asked the line mechanic what he thought of the aircraft, he said that the dorsal fin that ran along the top of the fuselage was unique to each aircraft and if became damaged by anything ( corrsion , poor fitting etc) the airframe itself became unuseable. He preferred the Mig-17, as the Mig-21 was just too difficult to keep going.
Posted by: Frank Martin   2003-02-04 10:57:58  

#5  F-20 Super Tiger was the last varient of the T-38/F-5 family. It was sold as a low cost export fighter to people we didn't trust, or who couldn't afford F-15/F-16's, etc.
Posted by: Steve   2003-02-04 09:48:37  

#4  I think if you search this site, you'll find a thread on this already. The Indians make the MIG's under license. The Russians don't make them. Any quality problems are Indian.
Posted by: Chuck   2003-02-04 07:32:30  

#3  f-20,super tiger?never heard of it
Posted by: Raptor   2003-02-04 05:42:10  

#2  "Are they buying new airplanes?"
The problem is they keep buying the world's stock of Mig-21s, the ones discarded by other countries. Don't ask me why.
Posted by: Rw   2003-02-04 02:28:39  

#1  The F-20, truly one of the great 'might have beens' was never produced beyond the testing phase. Overseas contracts were fufilled largely by the F-16 and upgrades to the existing F-5 airframes, the F-5 continues to server on in the air forces of many contries. The F-5 was a replacement in many airforces to the F-104.

On a side note, in 1994 I got to see my first Mig-21 up close at an import organization that was buying them on the cheap from countries like poland and china. When I asked the line mechanic what he thought of the aircraft, he said that the dorsal fin that ran along the top of the fuselage was unique to each aircraft and if became damaged by anything ( corrsion , poor fitting etc) the airframe itself became unuseable. He preferred the Mig-17, as the Mig-21 was just too difficult to keep going.
Posted by: Frank Martin   2/4/2003 10:57:58 AM  

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