A Muslim preacher accused of inciting murder and fostering racial hatred urged his followers to kill non-believers and told them: "The way forward is the bullet," a jury at the Old Bailey heard yesterday. Abdullah el-Faisal, 39, endorsed the use of nuclear and chemical weapons and told audiences that the proper definition of jihad was to wage war on non-Muslims - whom he compared to cockroaches - the court heard. "It is Islam versus democracy. It is Allah versus Satan. It is Muslims versus unbelievers," he is alleged to have said in a sermon.
| Democracy, as it exists in the west, allows people to do pretty much as they please. They don't have to wear turbans or burkas, don't have to grow beards, can practice any religion they want or none at all. They can disagree with their gummint or with their local mullahs. To Islamists, that's unthinkable as a way of life... |
El-Faisal denies five charges of soliciting a person or persons unknown to murder Jews, Hindus, Americans and other non-believers.
| ... Americans, Brits, Frenchies, Estonians, Russers, Avars, Veps, Fiji Islanders, Samoans, Esquimeaux... |
He also denies two charges of using threatening or abusive words or behaviour to stir up racial hatred, and one charge each of distributing and possessing recordings of such speeches. "He was preaching intolerance, but worse than that, preaching murder," David Perry told the court, opening the prosecution case. "The message he was conveying is clear: to kill a kaffir [non-believer] is good."
| Wonder how his mouthpiece is gonna get him off, with those tapes... |
He added that the prosecution could not say what effect the speeches had on audiences. What mattered was what the defendant said and his aim in saying it.
| This is the time to draw up the blanket of Freedumb of Speech, by interpreting it as a license to say anything, regardless of truth or consequences... |
El-Faisal, a former Salvation Army member, delivered the lectures to groups of young Muslim men and women at venues around the country and distributed the recordings through bookshops, the court heard. "The way forward can never be the ballot. The way forward is the bullet," he told listeners. He urged them to learn how to load missiles, fly planes and drive tanks and said martyrs who died fighting for Allah would feel no pain and go to paradise. He described France, the US and the UK as legitimate targets and urged followers to, "fly into Israel and do whatever you can". El-Faisal said chemical weapons could be used, adding that you would spray cockroaches and asking: "Who has more dignity, a cockroach or an unbeliever?"
| I think of this guy, and the hundreds like him infesting our world, every time the Berkeley City Council adopts some dumbass resolution saying that everything's our fault, what ever everything might be. Having joined the Master Religion and become a True Believer®, he's ready to exterminate the rest of us üntermenschen. He doesn't want to negotiate, he doesn't want to compromise. Keep your day care centers and your assistance next time there's an earthquake in Iran. He wants you dead, so he can be a big man with a jewelled turban and your daughters for dancing girls in the caliphate. |
He also said nuclear weapons were acceptable if no Muslims were harmed. He said there would be no harm in bombing India and spoke of incinerating the dead bodies to run power stations. "You can go to India and if you see a Hindu walking down the road you are allowed to kill him and take his money. Is that clear?" he said. On other tapes he claimed Jews practiced black magic and said they would be killed by Muslims very soon, as they had been by Hitler.
| Clear to me. I'm sure all Muslims aren't thieves and murderers, just as I'm sure Islamists are... |
El-Faisal, who is Jamaican, converted to Islam at 16, changing his name from William Forest. In 1983, he moved to South America later studying Islam at a university in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
| Where else? Might as well get your hatred pure and unadulterated, at the source... |
He was sent to Britain to preach after his graduation and moved to Stratford, east London in the mid 1990s, where he established "study circles" of up to 150 young men and women. "He was speaking to people who had come to him for advice, he was speaking to people who had come to him to listen to him ...as a spiritual leader," said Mr Perry. "What is noticeably absent are expressions of love, hope, charity, compassion or pity."
| Those are decadent Christian and Jewish concepts. Islamists reject them. It looks like some people are operating under the assumption that Islamist "holy men" are holy using the same definition we use in the west, despite all evidence to the contrary. |
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