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Fifth Column
Patty Murray just lo-o-o-o-ves that Binny...
2002-12-20
Why is terrorist leader Osama bin Laden so popular in some parts of the world?
Perhaps, said Sen. Patty Murray, it’s because he and his supporters have spent years building goodwill in poor nations by helping pay for schools, roads and day-care facilities.
Yep. That's probably it. I shoulda thought of that. Especially the day-care facilities. Yemen, Sudan and NWFP are chock full of them. That should have been the tip-off...
At an appearance before a high school honors class, Murray, D-Wash., offered what her spokesman called an intentionally provocative challenge for students to ponder. "We’ve got to ask, why is this man (bin Laden) so popular around the world?" Murray asked during an appearance Wednesday at Columbia River High School. "Why are people so supportive of him in many countries that are riddled with poverty?"
Golly, Patty! Tell us why!
The answers may be uncomfortable, but are important for Americans to ponder — particularly students, Murray said. "He’s been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health-care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven’t done that," Murray said.
We haven't? When did we stop? How about the bucks we've been dropping down the rathole of foreign aid since the end of WWII? What about the Peace Corps? Forty years of fraud?
"How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?"
Since we have, guess they'd be looking at us with the same sullen, ungrateful expressions, huh?
Chris Vance, chairman of the Washington state Republican Party, called Murray’s comments offensive. "It is absolutely outrageous and despicable to imply that the American government should learn a lesson from the madman who murdered thousands of American citizens," Vance said. "I know Senator Murray has a habit of sticking her foot in her mouth, but this goes way beyond a simple gaffe." Murray’s comments "sent the message to these students that the United States somehow deserved or brought on the September 11 terrorist attacks," Vance said. "I think all decent people can agree that we most certainly did not, that this was an unprovoked attack of terrorism." Vance called on Murray to retract her comments and apologize.
Murray somehow mixes cause with effect. "Why are people so supportive of him in many countries that are riddled with poverty?" she asks. Perhaps it's because of his Islamist message. He's big in areas riddled with Islamism. Look at the correlation: with the exception of the artificial riches brought from oil — a natural resource that foreigners, for the most part, exploit, while paying revenues to the guys that own the ground — Islamist countries are among the poorest in the world. It's not that Islamism catches on where people are poor; it's that people are poor where Islamism catches on.

FOLLOWUP: Here's Patty response...
Having a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future reflects the best values of a free democracy;

To sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide does not

For Immediate Release: December 20, 2002


Osama Bin Laden is an evil terrorist who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans. Bringing him to justice, dismantling his terrorist network, and protecting our nation from further attacks must continue to be our government's highest priorities, and I continue to vigorously support those efforts in the Senate.

While we continue to search every corner of the globe to destroy Osama bin Laden and his al Quaeda network, should we also consider the longer-term issue of what else can be done to improve relations with all nations including the Arab world?

How else can we bring America's values to those who do not understand us?

And while there are some whose hearts and minds may never be won, should we try to reach those who can?

The White House believes that we can do more, and has devoted an entire department to improving America's image in the Arab world.

Having a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future reflects the best values of a free democracy; to sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide does not.

While there are some on the extreme fringes of society who try to exploit fear and uncertainty for political gain, there are many more who understand that the best value of our democracy is the freedom to think and to secure a better future.
Ummm... None of that addresses the stupidity of the comments. Dissent for the sake of dissent is nothing but posturing and vapor.
Posted by:Fred Pruitt

#5  Murray will recieve nothing by way of this. While Republicans will pillor their own for a rather inane and stupid comment, Democrats will say nothing when one of their own spouts off Anti-American propaganda. Don't think voters are not watching.
Posted by: ben   2002-12-21 07:08:38  

#4  As you probably know by now, I have decided not to run for president in 2004 and will instead devote my time to a number of inventions I am currently working on here at Al Gore Laboratories.
Posted by: Al Gore   2002-12-21 00:28:50  

#3  "The White House believes that we can do more, and has devoted an entire department to improving America's image in the Arab world." Huh? What department might that be? Department of Defense?
Posted by: Larry   2002-12-20 23:44:09  

#2  Liberals love "...a challenging and thoughtful discussion about America's future...". Of course, if you disagree with them in that discussion, you "...sensationalize and distort in an attempt to divide..." and "...exploit fear and uncertainty for political gain".

So much for a challenging and thoughtful discussion....
Posted by: tu3031   2002-12-20 22:34:18  

#1  This Senators thoughts are more damaging and offensive than Lotts comment will ever be. Her speech was pre-meditated, being written before hand and meant to bash the Administration, where as Lott was just appeasing a 100 year old man on his birthday/spur of the moment toast.
Posted by: Rick   2002-12-20 21:54:40  

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