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National Resistance Front of Panjshir province have retaken three areas of the province from the Taliban
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Yesterday Marks the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 Attacks
[ToloNews] Yesterday marks the 20th anniversary of the attacks on the United States by Al Qaeda, which consequently brought the United States and NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A cautionary tale of cost-benefit analysis....
countries into Afghanistan.

In the early morning on the 11th of September 2001, four commercial airliners were hijacked by 19 Al Qaeda members.

The first plane crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center, and minutes later the south tower of the center was hit by a second plane. The towers were demolished.

The third plane hit the west side of the Pentagon and the fourth one, which was heading toward Washington DC, was diverted and crashed into a field in the state of Pennsylvania.

Nine days after the attacks, the then US President George W. Bush called on the US military to be ready. He also called on the Taliban
...Arabic for students...
to deliver the leader of Al Qaeda. "The Taliban must act and act immediately. They will hand over the terrorists, or they will share in their fate," he said.

When the Al Qaeda leader was not handed over, Bush called for other countries to join with the United States in the war on terror. "Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists," he said.

The United States with the UK launched Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan in October 2001. Troops were sent in and later various NATO and other allied countries joined.

Over the past 20 years, Afghanistan experienced a massive international presence, both military and civilian.

During these 20 years, the war cost thousands of lives.

According to AP, as of April 2021, 2,448 American service members were killed in Afghanistan and over 3,846 US contractors. The casualties of Afghan military and police reached 66,000, and other allied soldiers, including those of NATO countries, reached 1,144.

The civilians in Afghanistan have also paid a high price. During the last 20 years, 47,245 Afghan civilians have bit the dust, and 51,191 Taliban and other opposition fighters have been killed, AP reported.

Civilian casualties, however, were counted only from 2009, because before that year fatalities were not recorded systematically by the United Nations
...where theory meets practice and practice loses...
Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA).

According to the AP report, 444 aid workers and 72 journalists were killed.

Different sources, however, give slightly different numbers.

These figures do not include the attacks on Kabul airport in August in which over 170 Afghans bit the dust as they were trying to leave the country during the evacuation process, as did 13 US soldiers.

The last US soldiers left Afghanistan on August 30, only 12 days before the 20th anniversary of 9/11.

Although the US and NATO ousted the former Taliban government, the Taliban retook control of Kabul on August 15, after 20 years of war.
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Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Extraordinary measures were required after Bloody Sunday
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
[Regnum] The new St. Petersburg Governor-General D.F. Trepov began with decisive action. He introduced martial law in the capital, demanded to resume work, and recommended that entrepreneurs make partial concessions. On January 13 (26), 1905, the strike at the factories began to decline. The issue of newspapers was resumed two days later.

"After a terrible week," noted on January 15 (28), "St. Petersburg Vedomosti", “having tortured everyone and driven to despair, with hope for the future, the Russian capital's press began to work."

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Blood feud in the Chechen state: walking through villages with public threats of murder
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Lead rewritten. Heavily edited.

Sounds like the average Chechen is getting fed up with Ramzen Kadyrov's bullshit.

[KavkazUzel] Last month, a Chechen telegram group based in Turkey, Security Turkey, began to threaten to unmask Chechen state and Russian FSB operatives in Turkey, according to data supplied in a Transcaucasus news outlet.

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Posted by: badanov || 09/12/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [117 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IMO, it's either Kadyrov or war.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 5:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Kadyrov is term limited in 2026.
Posted by: badanov || 09/12/2021 6:43 Comments || Top||

#3  ^So was Putin's, a few years ago.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 6:58 Comments || Top||

Hack of Texas GOP website on 9/11 ‘made my day,' ex-Biden-Obama adviser says
[FoxNews] Jon Cooper previously mocked vaccine opponents, writing, 'I see soon-to-be-dead people'.

The website of the Texas Republican Party was hacked Saturday by a group that claimed to be protesting the state’s newly enacted abortion law, according to reports.

Among those reacting to the news was Jon Cooper, a former New York financial adviser to President Biden and former President Barack Obama.

Cooper served as national finance chairman for Draft Biden 2016, Long Island campaign chairman for Obama, and served as majority leader in the legislature of Suffolk County, New York.

Last month, Cooper tweeted a photoshopped mashup of real-life vaccine-mandate protesters and the child character from the 1999 movie "The Sixth Sense" and added his comment: "I see soon-to-be-dead people."
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/12/2021 08:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [172 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another one of the "Death to America!" party.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 12:23 Comments || Top||

Will There Be Another Meat Shortage In 2021?
[The List] - ...there's a chance we won't be seeing meat shortages of the kind that we saw in early-to mid-2020. Much of it has to do with the reason the meat shortages happened to begin with.

During the early days of the pandemic, many meat workers — who were unable to practice any form of social distancing — were falling ill with COVID-19. And even though they were sick, these workers soldiered on side by side while infecting others, decimating their ranks within the meatpacking industry as a result. This meant  leaving livestock that couldn't get slaughtered, because there weren't enough meatpackers working in plants (via Time). The labor slowdown also meant that it took a considerable amount of time for meat products to get to restaurants or supermarket shoppers (via CNBC). 

Today, the meat industry is facing a different set of circumstances from the ones it had to deal with for most of 2020, even though its outcomes might look the same. The industry is still facing some kind of labor crunch because while half of these workers are vaccinated, a great number are also vaccine-hesitant. "It's hard to find employees to work and to show up in this in this economy and so it's already an issue," meat owner John Federspiel tells WANE.

The already-fragile meat supply chain also received another shock when the industry's largest supplier, JBS foods, fell victim to a ransomware attack in June, which affected operations in the U.S., Canada, and Australia (via Vox).

But will all this be enough to send meat inventories plummeting like they did last year? Likely not, since groceries have gotten more savvy. David Smith of Associated Wholesale Grocers said in early-July, "We're buying a lot of everything. Our inventories are up significantly over the same period last year," he said (via The Wall Street Journal).

This combination of pandemic preparedness, along with the rising cost of food (Forbes says meat prices are up 6% from what they were last year — which means people may be less inclined to consume meat), could be a sign that our meat supplies might not end up being as they were last year. And this is good news that many of us probably need right now. 
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Posted by: badanov || 09/12/2021 9:23 Comments || Top||

#2  It ain't for lack of well above normal wages.

FPL in Augusta GA. has billboards everywhere offering $11 p/hr for cleanup and to $22+ p/hr for cutters.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/12/2021 11:13 Comments || Top||

#3  $11 / hour for cleanup is about 1/3 of a realistic wage IMNSHO. I used to care for injured slaughter house workers. Their job is horrible.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 12:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Not for me. I grow my own
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/12/2021 12:46 Comments || Top||

#5  #3 Care to share info re workforce composition?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 15:16 Comments || Top||

#6  If Biden wills one.
Posted by: 3dc || 09/12/2021 20:50 Comments || Top||

KFC Bets On Vegan Nuggets Amid Nationwide Poultry Shortage
[ZERO] Kentucky Fried Chicken is serving up a new vegan future for its fast-food chain amid poultry shortages and the continued disruption caused by the virus pandemic.

KFC's president in the U.S., Kevin Hochman, has been preparing the Louisville-based fast-food restaurant chain, known for its "Finger-Lickin' Good" chicken, for a future of plant-based meat. The company has been testing plant-based nuggets from Beyond Meat in select locations but has yet to take it nationwide.

The poultry shortage, which has disrupted chicken supply chains across the UK and US, could be why Hochman brings a faux option that replicates chicken to market faster than anticipated to alleviate supply woes. The shortage is so dire in the US that the company cannot promote its breaded chicken tenders on US television.

Bloomberg's Leslie Patton said KFC is preparing for what looks like an inevitable future of fake chicken going mainstream. He sat down with the KFC executive to discuss more about faux nuggets.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2021 06:17 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Go woke, go broke.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 6:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Over priced before the inflation hit.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/12/2021 7:03 Comments || Top||

#3  ^But I really liked KFC.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 7:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Now Japan, KFC, and Christmas is one heck of story.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/12/2021 8:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Bloomberg's Leslie Patton said KFC is preparing for what looks like an inevitable future of fake chicken going mainstream.

Looks can be deceiving.
Posted by: Raj || 09/12/2021 8:05 Comments || Top||

#6  "With KFC's new Vat-Grown Nuggets(tm), the flavor goes in before the beak and feathers go on. Try them today!"
Posted by: SteveS || 09/12/2021 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  Make em out of bugs — that’s what the Commies really wanted
Posted by: Regular joe || 09/12/2021 11:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Shrimp and lobster are "bugs", too!
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 13:20 Comments || Top||

#9  #7 indeed. I understand in China they eat everything. I have noticed on nearly every video no pigeons and so on.
Posted by: Dale || 09/12/2021 15:18 Comments || Top||

Government Corruption
9/11 Was a Day of Unforgivable Government Failure
Lengthy, but well worth the read.
[MISES Wire] Perhaps more than anything else, the rationale given for the necessity of the state—and the necessity of supporting the regime at any given time—is that it "keeps us safe." This permeates thinking about government institutions at all levels, from "thin blue line" sloganeering at the local level, all the way up to jingoism surrounding the Pentagon.

Presumably, the hundreds of billions of dollars extracted from taxpayers, year after year after year, is all both necessary and laudable because without it, chaos would reign on our streets, and foreign invaders would slaughter Americans.

Yet this rationale for state power also presumes that the nation's alleged defenders are actually competent at their jobs.

Whether or not this is the case certainly remains debatable, as the recent military disasters in Afghanistan have made clear. The Pentagon brass pushed for continued war in Afghanistan for twenty years, and, ultimately, lost the entire country to the Taliban, the very people Pentagon generals assured us they would eliminate "soon."

[Read More: "The Pentagon and the Generals Wanted This Disastrous War" by Ryan McMaken]

Moreover, the so-called intelligence community in the United States has repeatedly failed in its mission at crucial times. This can be seen in the fact the CIA was asleep at the switch in the lead-ups to both the Iranian Revolution in 1979 and the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962—both of which constituted an immense blow to American "safety" by the American regime's metrics.

Needless to say, the terrorist attacks of 9/11 were made possible by an immense military and intelligence failure on the part of the United States government. Not only did the US government provide the motivation for the attacks—through endless meddling in Middle Eastern regimes—but the US regime failed to protect its own citizens when the blowback arrived.

Yet, as is so common following displays of incompetence by government bureaucrats, virtually no government agents were held accountable for this failure. The head of the CIA on 9/11, George Tenet, continued at his post for years afterward. There certainly was no "house cleaning" at the FBI either.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2021 09:43 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [175 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Moreover, the so-called intelligence community in the United States has repeatedly failed in its mission at crucial times. This can be seen in the fact the CIA was asleep at the switch in the lead-ups to both the Iranian Revolution in 1979 and the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962

Add to Iran and Cuba the fall of the Soviet Union. They transitioned from intelligence agency to geo-political manipulators, regime changers, and global decision makers long ago.

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2021 11:02 Comments || Top||

#2  America has surrendered to Cuba, Iran, Afghanistan, China… the focus is on anybody not part of the deep state cabal.
Posted by: Airandee || 09/12/2021 11:54 Comments || Top||

#3  The CIA was apparently ignorant of nuclear armed Soviet submarines during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The USA only learned of this after the Soviet Union collapsed and some of the old USSR military archives were opened.
So many government failures, so little time to list them all.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 12:02 Comments || Top||

#4  /\ So many government failures, so little time to list them all.

As is oftentimes said, "that will preach."
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2021 12:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Just yesterday, Joe said it's the prexident's job to "protect us all." Seems Billy Jeff, Dubya, Bath House Barry and now Joe all let us down. Trump gets a pass because the whole damn rest of the gummint and both parties were out to get him.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/12/2021 13:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Every day is a day of unforgivable government failure. Some are just worse than others.
Posted by: Angstrom || 09/12/2021 14:39 Comments || Top||

Biden Crime Family Vaccine Mandate: Unconstitutional, Unscientific, Underhanded
[American Thinker] "Tonight, I'm announcing that the Department of Labor is developing an emergency rule to require all employers with 100 or more employees that together employee[sic] over 80 million workers to ensure their workforces are fully vaccinated or show a negative test at least once a week," Biden pontificated on Thursday.

The edict hasn't actually been issued yet; it is only in the making. The White House has given itself several weeks — even months, possibly — for OSHA to bring it into force.

After cratering his own approval rating down to an unprecedented 39% — the lowest ever for a Democrat president at this point in his term — Biden seems to have retreated from his imbecilic "Ready, Fire, Aim" Afghanistan withdrawal strategy, which he boastfully executed under an immovable August 31 deadline.

Instead, he's given himself a flexible timeframe if needed and even an escape route from the mandate if the pushback proves too damaging optically. This as hundreds, if not thousands, of U.S. citizens, U.S. visa holders, and Western allies still have no escape route from the new Texas-sized Democrat-created terror state of Talibanistan.

The administration may also be looking for a way to turn the conversation from what may become (and some are arguing already is) the greatest hostage crisis in U.S. history. Could Biden be angling to get the GOP to stop talking about Afghanistan by infuriating them with a king-like edict that tramples the Constitution? Time will tell.

But if he's genuinely planning to chain America with an unprecedented mandate, it will almost certainly be found unconstitutional, as were his other recent Constitution-usurping efforts to extend the CDC's renter eviction moratorium and illegally suspend Trump's "Remain in Mexico" policy. The Supreme Court torpedoed both of these Democrat power-enhancing schemes.

With two SCOTUS rebukes after less than eight months in office, it's become crystal-clear that Biden doesn't give much credence to the constitutional limits of government — especially if they get in his way of expanding the Democrat power base.

One can imagine Biden reclining in the White House (possibly in a special room in the basement) and dreaming of a Biden-ista Revolution that creates an unstoppable permanent Democrat-controlled federal government, similar to what Democrats have done in California.

This brings us back to Biden's mandate. Like the CDC mandate and Biden's border betrayal, Biden's handlers have assured and reassured the country that they are on solid legal ground. The precedent, they say for the mandate, is the 1905 Jacobson v. Massachusetts decision, which states:
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#3  In light of the observation in #1, Dr Makary is (just a little bit) wrong.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 6:12 Comments || Top||

#4  p.s. Why does he look like Jerry Lewis, Besoeker?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 6:43 Comments || Top||

#5  I can see the lawyers salivate on this big pay day. This could go on for years. What do you mean immune from prosecution. Contracts are made to be broken. Merely a change in a four year administration will change the false sense of security.
Posted by: Dale || 09/12/2021 9:01 Comments || Top||

#6  #5 I am eagerly awaiting tort lawyers to contact families of dead high risk COVID-19 patients, whose PCP's never even offered them monoclonal antibodies at a time when the infusions might have helped. PCP's were either ignorant of the existence of the treatment (partly their own fault) or prejudiced against mentioning them since they were used to help Trump. Florida has been well ahead of this issue since the FDA first issued EUA's for these treatments in Nov. 2020.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 12:07 Comments || Top||

#7  /\ A most intriguing insight.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2021 12:29 Comments || Top||

#8  I am not about to stick my finger into the light socket of the Great Covid Debate, but I do point out that the rationale for the vaccine mandate -- health emergency -- would in the eyes of some Democrats apply with equal force to Gerbil Worming. If a vaccine mandate issued solely by the Prez is legal, wouldn't a prohibition against the use of fossil fuels also be legal? And don't think they haven't thought about it.
Posted by: Matt || 09/12/2021 15:44 Comments || Top||

Home Front: Politix
Five Extremely Simple Reasons Why Biden Made the Right Call Mandating Vaccines
h/t HotAir
[Slate] - Conservatives have collectively gone wild with rage and indignation over President Joe Biden’s new vaccine mandate for private businesses, which will require large employers to make sure their workers have either been inoculated or get tested weekly. In the right’s telling, the coming rule is a paternalistic—even tyrannical—imposition on American freedoms, a step down the road to biomedical serfdom that calls for mass civil disobedience, and an offense that has some of Congress’ leading nutters bellowing on Twitter that "unvaccinated lives matter."

So it seems like a good moment to point out the very simple reasons why Biden’s move is in fact entirely sensible, especially since parts of the media seem intent on framing the whole thing as just another round in America’s culture war rather than an actual matter of life and death. (Here’s looking at you, Mike Allen.)
Though I'm not sure Americans - on either side of the ideological divide - can even consider the idea that the other side is not the Antichrist.
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#1  ^Allahpundit fanboi. Nuff said
Posted by: Frank G || 09/12/2021 5:57 Comments || Top||

#2  ^Thank you for making my "Antichrist" point for me, Francis.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 6:08 Comments || Top||

#3  I've never considered teachers unions and the postal service hotbeds of conservative or right wing political thought but they both seem to have an issue with the mandate.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/12/2021 7:06 Comments || Top||

My Life, My Choice

So lets say you have had the VAX and it TEMPORARILY works for you.

So IF you are TEMPORARILY immune, then why the hell are you worried about those that have chosen not to be VAX'd yet?

Or, is this just another Government Oxymoron or Deflection?

We already have the CDC/NIH admitting, that the VAX only works so long. Then you will need a BOOSTER shot every 5 to 6 months or new more infectious and less deadly strain.


What about the Research by several respected medical groups, showing some VAX'd persons can be carriers (Thyroid Mary's)?

What if you already had the C-19/21 and recovered? Given you now have anti-bodies and some natural resistance to the C-19/21+ at least equal to the VAX? Then why the shot?

Why violate the civil rights of a 100++ million citizens by forcing a constant TEMPORARILY VAX solution, while denying viable / long proven alternative treatments and medications.

But then give the alternative medications denied to US Citizen to ILLEGALS entering the country and but not the VAX? Plus admit doing so during a WH New Brief? Something ain't right.....

Since according to CDC/WHO/NIH data.
This c-19/21+ mutates and infects like that other well known virus, called the FLU. We know it is up to 90x's more likely to kill older adults or those in lower age groups with pre-existing medical issues.

So why demand the VAX'ing of healthy kids, teens, and young adults under age 29?

My wife and I are 60+ and part of the Wait and See group.
But Over the last 600+ days, we have been out just about everyday in public stores and places and never been infected. All we do is just practice common seasonal FLU safety measures.

However, we have had a number of medical field and 1st Responder family members infected despite being VAX'd and recovered. With only 1really close call, he was VAX'd and age 50'ish.

So mine your own business and remember this simple RIGHT we all have.

My Life, My Choice
Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/12/2021 7:39 Comments || Top||

#6  What about the Research by several respected medical groups, showing some VAX'd persons can be carriers (Thyroid Mary's)?

That's why unvaccinated should be kept away.
p.s. "Thyroid Mary's"???

What if you already had the C-19/21 and recovered? Given you now have anti-bodies and some natural resistance to the C-19/21+ at least equal to the VAX? Then why the shot?

Because natural immunity declines with time - just like vaccinated one (actually read the Israeli paper you're all misquoting!).

Why violate the civil rights of a 100++ million citizens by forcing a constant TEMPORARILY VAX solution, while denying viable / long proven alternative treatments and medications.
(i) "100++ million"???
From Our World in Data · Last updated: 2 days ago
United States
Doses given: 379M
Fully vaccinated: 178M
% of population fully vaccinated: 54.3%
(ii) Because your "viable / long proven alternative treatments" are such only in conservative press. In the real world they don't exist.

Face it NN2N1, the anti-vaxxer movement is deader than anti-guy-marriage movement. Two months from now 90% of adult Americans will be vaccinated. And, long before that, the orange Messiah will call upon the faithful to vaccinate - he can't afford to lose too many of them.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 7:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah, I see we're trying to spread the panic pr0n far and wide this morning, Mr. Branch Covidian...
Posted by: Raj || 09/12/2021 8:08 Comments || Top||

#8  Damned glad I don't live in Israel
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/12/2021 8:30 Comments || Top||

#9  ^You should be.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 8:34 Comments || Top||

#10  g(r)omgoru

Depending on the Medical research institute, that addressed VAX'd being possible carriers. The data found, ran from 8% and little more depending variable like up to a
1 month window after final shot and a window 5+ months after final. Meaning people thinking they are immune still can get infected and be carriers.

I have no data yet of the timeframes for booster shots. But I'll be digging.

Regarding my millions of civil rights violated.
As of: September 12, 2021, 12:32 GMT
The USA had 1,144,333 claimed new infections 1.144 in about 322 over the LAST 7 DAYS. This is makes it about a 0.28300000000000003 of 1% chance of getting infected in USA in the last 7 days.

Over the last 7 days, the USA had 9,168 deaths claimed to be C-19 that is 28 deaths per million population. -6% decline from the previous week. So IF you were unlucky enough to be one of the 0.28300000000000003 infected your odds of dying were
0.8011653950379828 of 1% for those infected.

We are a population of 333+ Million (Not Counting ILLEGALS) and using your 54.7% are VAX'd number. That means that 150.81 Million are still UN-VAX'd. (millions)

BTW: The US Population has actually increased, not declined, since the C-19 started.

So if 178 million FULL VAX doses have been successfully applied, then why are a good handful of the VAX'd still dying from C-19?

Example of Why the VAX Passport and MANDATES will be hard to enforce.

1 of 100's of sites.

Just fill in the blanks, pay a few bucks and you have employer/shopper level ID.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/12/2021 9:26 Comments || Top||

#11  The story being sold in the media is that the reluctant/anti-vax crowd is conservatives/Trump supporters/white supremacists. As near as I can tell, the populations are:
something like 20-30% of health care workers
unionized groups like teachers and postal workers
minorities (meaning blacks)
and the educated elite.

Of course, not everyone in the above categories is anti-. It's not a binary world, people. Perhaps there would be less reluctance if the current advocates had not campaigned so hard against the vaccines when Trump was Prez.

Posted by: SteveS || 09/12/2021 9:53 Comments || Top||

#12  PM Boris Johnson says no to vax/immunity passports for UK
Posted by: Frank G || 09/12/2021 9:55 Comments || Top||

#13  the orange Messiah will call upon the faithful to vaccinate
He has done that repeatedly over the past 9 months. You just don't hear about it. Why not?
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/12/2021 9:56 Comments || Top||

#14  words and facts travel slow to Israel?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/12/2021 10:00 Comments || Top||

#15  Five simple reasons Biden should ban any and all Abortions
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/12/2021 10:18 Comments || Top||

#16  I have no data yet of the timeframes for booster shots. But I'll be digging.

May I suggest you start with
35 Years of Research Into Coronavirus Infections Show Long-Term Immunity Is Unlikely
If only the authors did this research before it became "important".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 11:08 Comments || Top||

#17  He has done that repeatedly over the past 9 months. You just don't hear about it. Why not?

Because it doesn't fit in with the straw man argument.

Again, I reiterate: did you notice that this whole argument spooled up again two days after the document dump on Tuesday about gain of function and related shit?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 09/12/2021 11:08 Comments || Top||

#18  #13 Trump booed after telling supporters to get Covid vaccine
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 11:10 Comments || Top||

#19  Let’s test the vax out on the Afghanis we’re importing and see how it works after 5 years— like real scientists.
Posted by: Regular joe || 09/12/2021 11:14 Comments || Top||

#20  This hasn't been about public health for a long time. With the current panic variant already crested I think Xao buy den wants to get this in quick to sound decisive and be able to claim victory on thee back of a natural event.
Posted by: Spirt Bucket1287 || 09/12/2021 11:31 Comments || Top||

#21  That wasn't actually spirit bucket1287.
Posted by: Cesare || 09/12/2021 11:32 Comments || Top||

#22  Thyroid Mary was Typhoid Mary’s fat cousin.
Posted by: Crath Prince of the Faeries9822 || 09/12/2021 11:32 Comments || Top||

#23  #20 many new variants to follow.They will keep this going for as long as possible, till elections at least. The Spanish flu lasted eight years. Flu season has just started. Let the fun begin. To myself this is truly a carnival of the mind. Truly a Freak sideshow.
Posted by: Dale || 09/12/2021 11:39 Comments || Top||

#24  once Summer is over and the Sun isnt as much of a factor, the lack of Vitamin d factor will send alot more vaxxt folk to the ER me thinks...
Posted by: 746 || 09/12/2021 12:17 Comments || Top||

#25  #24 Yes indeed. Common sense. I always complained about buildings that had no windows that opened. We breathe and re breathe air. No sunlight low Vitamin D levels and chronic media stress hence autoimmune system is impaired. The regarding the antichrist in 1933 a pastor had a vision. He saw a time a president would not finish his term and his female vice President would become the president. He said shortly thereafter the end would occur for all humanity. Kamala Devil Harris, I added the L.
Posted by: Dale || 09/12/2021 15:07 Comments || Top||

#26  Covid Delta variant big in the south because that’s when people spend the most time inside with the windows closed and air conditioning cranked. With D burning itself out and people opening widows and staying outside as it becomes more temperate it will fade in the south. Right after the weather turns cold in the north, the windows stay shut and people stay indoors you’ll see the D variety start ripping through the north.

As for the flu, apparently the Covid virus causes the immune system and interferon reaction to the point where it prevents the flu virus from taking hold for a while. It worked a similar way for the rhinovirus that held off the pandemic H1N1 flu in 2009, at least temporarily. The theory is that by Covid outcompeting Flu, the flu never had a large enough pool of vulnerable people to spread widely, as well as people taking extraordinary precautions with distancing and hand washing, etc.

Those circumstances may yet again blunt the onset of flu.
Posted by: Greater the Anonymous5721 || 09/12/2021 15:30 Comments || Top||

#27  I expect that by 2022 covid vaccine will be given with the annual flu shots.

Nonetheless it is unlikely we will be free of either the flu or covid for many years.
Posted by: Lord Garth || 09/12/2021 15:51 Comments || Top||

#28  Not if our Democrats and furriner totalitarians have their way. A momentary sniff of power has intoxicated them
Posted by: Frank G || 09/12/2021 15:56 Comments || Top||

#29  Democrats won't release power until there are zero Covid cases of any variant - not zero deaths, not zero hospitalizations. Zero cases.
Oh, and 100% vaccination.
In other words - never.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 09/12/2021 16:02 Comments || Top||

#30  All this stuff
doesn't bother me a bit,
I take my medicine
3 times a day,
Not even a sniffle...
my medicines are

Quinine Tonic & Gin with Juniper Berries
Cheers to you who drink Beers
Posted by: Alistaire Johnson8413 || 09/12/2021 20:22 Comments || Top||

#31  even better: Tito's Vodka
Posted by: Frank G || 09/12/2021 21:05 Comments || Top||

The 9/11 Attacks Ultimately Proved A Lesser Threat To America Than The Totalitarian Left
[THESEATONPOST] I was in college when the planes hit the towers, studying that Tuesday morning before class in the student union. The woman who ran the student snack bar and I were the only people there that morning, and together we watched the second plane hit on live TV. At that moment, my stomach dropped. After the first plane hit, no one really knew what was going on, whether a small aircraft had accidentally crashed into the tower or if it had been a kaboom or something else. But when that second plane hit, we knew. This wasn’t an accident. Someone had planned this. It was an attack. Suddenly, we were at war.

In the months and years that followed, my classmates and I tried to wrap our minds around what we thought was coming: a generational struggle against jihadist networks that seemed to span the globe, that had even infiltrated the United States. We all read Samuel P. Huntington’s "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of the World Order." We all scoffed at Francis Fukuyama’s notion of the "end of history." We thought the United States was the only power capable of stamping out Islamic terrorism. We assumed there would be many more attacks on the homeland.

Twenty years after the attacks of September 11, 2001, it’s safe to say they did not herald the defining, all-consuming civilizational struggle we had anticipated. The thing we most feared, Islamic terrorism, did not prove to be our worst enemy or the greatest threat to our republic. The greatest threat, we now know, has come from within — from an enemy who hates America and ordinary Americans at least as much as the 9/11 hijackers did, and for some of the same reasons.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 09/12/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [249 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  harboring as much hatred for our heritage of freedom and chaotic way of life as Sayyid Qtub and his intellectual heir, the late Osama bin Laden

Not necessarily correct. Our guys/gals interviewed hundreds of AQ and Taliban...and they would state to us that they hated what could be paraphrased as our hollywood perversion...drug dealers...deviancy...that they saw in the movies.

And I am familiar with the writings (Milestones) of Sayyid Qtub and of his travels in the US. Qtub most closely related to the Southern Baptists...didn't hate them...rather enjoyed the Southern Baptist's joy in worship and especially enjoyed the Black Baptist Churches.

They hated the deviant lifestyle the US fronts to the world via TV and movies...and hated our support of Israel.

That said...only Bin Laden, amongst the AQ leadership, was interested in attacking the US in our own backyard...Zawahiri cautioned against it and has left us alone for the past 10 years...9/11 was the brainchild of one man, not a larger movement...initially...not sure now after the most recent disasters.
Posted by: Tennessee || 09/12/2021 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  They hated the deviant lifestyle the US fronts to the world via TV and movies.
If only they stopped there...
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/12/2021 1:27 Comments || Top||

#3  moslems hate everything that isn't islam, and then if it isn't the correct kind of islam, they hate that.

everything else follows from that
Posted by: Retard Strength || 09/12/2021 8:38 Comments || Top||

#4  ^Correction "Moslems hate everything".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 8:43 Comments || Top||

#5  The reductive, totalizing ideology of the left has seeped into nearly every institution of American life, and dominates our culture and our politics.

The author inadvertently poses a provocative question...do conservatives have more in common with the left that hates us or the fundamentalist extremist Sunni?

#4 ^Correction "Moslems hate everything".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru

And what a load of bull this statement lays on the table. While g has a certain perspective...and I understand how g formed that perspective...I have found that I have more in common with the main line Shia (that does not hate me) than I do with the pagan left or the radical leftist NY Jew that absolutely hates me as a Southern Christian. Funny how that works...Israel has no greater friend than the conservative US Christian, yet Israel's cowardly cousins in NY city and Hollywood are our greatest foe.

I guess I concur with the article...our enemies are the ISIS ideologues that infiltrate the Sunni mosques with the literature of Wahab and Taymiyyah and the left that infiltrates the media with their deviancy and hatred of conservatives. It is a strange dangerous world that we live in.
Posted by: Tennessee || 09/12/2021 10:09 Comments || Top||

#6  IIRC, the USA put up some kind of a fight against the 9/11 attackers and backers overseas. The significance of the Totalitarian Left (TL) is becoming clearer to Americans, at least those who aren't the TL's.
One response to the "Death to America" crowd could be "Mors hostibus"
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 13:24 Comments || Top||

#7  So now that we've formally lost can we do away with the TSA?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/12/2021 14:25 Comments || Top||

#8  Glenn Greenwald a few hours ago:
Liberals swooned emotionally all day yesterday for George W. Bush because they crave his War on Terror, but just want it unleashed domestically at their political opponents. Hearing Bush link 9/11 with 1/6, and compare his War on Terror with their new one, was ecstasy for them.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 14:43 Comments || Top||

#9  911 both pisses me off and saddens me all over again.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/12/2021 23:17 Comments || Top||

Home Front: WoT
What Have We Learned Twenty Years After 9/11?
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 09/12/2021 02:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [170 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Muslims will not drink beer with you.
Posted by: Omaise Phuter9238 || 09/12/2021 5:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Depends on the "We". Personally, I learned all I need to know about Islam while serving in Bethlehem in 1990es (Intifada I).
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/12/2021 5:29 Comments || Top||

Pretty much what have already known.

Certain radicals will always exist.

When Religious Leaders & Clerics have hate and turn radical, they steer sheep o violate the rights of others.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 09/12/2021 7:42 Comments || Top||

#4  nothing. we elected the murderers' coreligionists to Congress.
Posted by: Retard Strength || 09/12/2021 8:33 Comments || Top||

Posted by: Skunky Gliling2010 || 09/12/2021 9:11 Comments || Top||

#6  The phrase "religion of peace" is a huge tell.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/12/2021 9:34 Comments || Top||

I don't know, I'm still working on 'Who put the dip in the dip dee dip dee dip.'-'Who put the bop in the bop shoo bob dee bob.' and other disturbing questions from the 50's

Who was that man ?

Posted by: Whomolet Pholuns7082 || 09/12/2021 11:40 Comments || Top||

Grateful Migrants in Pennsylvania Send Thousands of Dollars to ISIS
[PJMedia] Old Joe The Big Guy Biden
...46th president of the U.S., who gives the term geriatric a bad name. He blames Afghans for losing Afghanistan....
’s handlers are in the process of bringing 94,000 Afghan refugees into the UnitedStates, and really, only a racist, bigoted "Islamophobe" could possibly object to such a grand humanitarian gesture, right? Yet a migrant couple in Pennsylvania illustrated Thursday that there is ample reason to temper our enthusiasm over Old Joe’s welcome mat: Shahidul Gaffar, a naturalized citizen, and his wife, Nabila Khan, a legal permanent resident, both from Bangladesh, were sentenced to federal prison for sending nearly $5,600 to Khan’s brothers, who happen to be Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that they were al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're really very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear western pols talk they're not really Moslems....
(ISIS) jihadis.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/12/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [182 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

#1  Lots of time for their congressman to get the wheels turning on short-circuiting their deportations.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/12/2021 13:06 Comments || Top||

Many of America's children will likely grow up ignorant of 9/11
[NYPOST] Once, the people of our traumatized nation cried out, in unison — "Never forget!" Now, 20 years after 9/11, we’re suffering from a case of willful, mass amnesia.

Never forget?

Pretty soon, we’ll be lucky if there’s anyone left to remember the day Islamic butchers crashed four planes into the heart of our country, leaving a trail of chaos, murder and so many tears. Because in large swaths of this nation, the woke folks in charge have chosen to discard memories of the darkest day in American history. And it frightens me.

Only 14 states — 14! — have mandated classroom instruction about the terror attacks of 9/11. On the honor roll is a jumble of places, only some scorched by terror: Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Illinois, Indiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, and New York.

But in most of this country, including big states like Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party, and small ones down to Rhode Island, there exists no requirement that instructors say one word about 9/11. Even governments in New Jersey and Connecticut, two states that lost a large number of people who came to work in New York’s fallen World Trade Center, have not seen fit to require that all school kids learn why some parents or grandparents failed to come home one day in September. Nor are there mandated 9/11 lessons in Pennsylvania, where a downed jet crashed into a field, killing everyone aboard.

The result is that kids not yet born on that day are likely to stare blankly at any mention of the date. Given the opportunity to impart lessons on terrorism in the classrooms, many schools, school districts or individual teachers choose to opt out, or simply gloss over the subject each year as 9/11 rolls around.

Posted by: Fred || 09/12/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [136 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  Quality of education in general is in major decline. No cursive, no math no education. The well educated will be a true minority.
Posted by: Dale || 09/12/2021 8:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Asking modern day kids what the date is NOW will often be met with a blank stare.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/12/2021 12:26 Comments || Top||

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