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Taliban agreed to allow 200 foreigners to leave Afghanistan
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-Land of the Free
Amid Afghan Refugee Influx, DC Govt Warns of Dangers of Online Extremism
[Free Beacon] One anonymous 4Chan user suggested Afghan refugees might vote for Democrats.

Refugees fleeing the Biden-induced human rights catastrophe in Afghanistan are streaming into Washington, D.C., and flowing into the area's hospitals amid the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. In response, the district's emergency management agency has issued a stern warning about the threat of online extremism.

The District of Columbia's Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency warned law enforcement officials earlier this week that "extremist rhetoric has risen online following the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan." According to an intelligence assessment obtained by the Washington Free Beacon, the agency assessed that "the increase in extremist rhetoric may presage targeted violence against Afghan refugees." The evidence cited to support that assessment, however, was rather scant—just a handful of examples from "known online forums," such as 4Chan, Free Republic, BitChute, and the official QAnon Telegram channel.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/10/2021 03:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10799 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The evidence cited to support that assessment, however, was rather scant

Evidence claiming Ashli Babbitt was a dangerous DC insurrectionist remain rather scant as well.

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/10/2021 3:42 Comments || Top||

#2  She wasn't wearing a mask and she was a Trump supporter. For some, that's all the evidence necessary, you know.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/10/2021 7:57 Comments || Top||

#3  "extremist rhetoric has risen online following the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan." Such as "F U Joe Biden?" That kind of extremist rhetoric?
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/10/2021 9:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Comes the crackdown on "homegrown extremists".
Posted by: ed in texas || 09/10/2021 12:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Stick a fork in Joe. He's done...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/10/2021 18:15 Comments || Top||

#6  The Biden admin had the IC establish specific teams to monitor online extremism before his address. They knew the response they would get and they're going to weaponize that as well. By all accounts, all we are seeing has been planned out well in advance. They look/act like they have no plan. Don't be fooled - all has been planned.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 09/10/2021 21:20 Comments || Top||


Shanksville, PA 20 years after 9/11...
[USAToday] SHANKSVILLE, Pa. – It is late, and Karl Glessner calls his wife. He says: I'm up at the fire hall. There's a journalist here. He's writing a story about 9/11. I really think you should talk to him.

Karl looks at me. The journalist. I cannot hear Donna Glessner's words, only her tone. Every sentence ends in a downward cadence. I know her answer is no. I understand. How many times can a person give and give and receive nothing in return?
. . .
The terrorists drove United Flight 93 into the field at 563 miles an hour. The plane hit so hard, the ground swallowed it up. Then the FBI came, and the ATF, and the NTSB, and every other agency with a shred of jurisdiction. Thousands of people. FBI agents sat on their knees and combed the ground with their fingers. They excavated the crater down 40 feet. They removed every scrap of steel, every piece of flesh.

They tore this place apart.

Then they paved it over with dirt.

Then they left.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/10/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10797 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good people in a difficult situation behaving selflessly.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/10/2021 19:13 Comments || Top||


Government Corruption
The Forever Wars are coming home
[The Intercept] I WAS DRIVING home from a militia muster in the Virginia mountains last summer ‐ after another day immersed in preelection talk of civil war ‐ when I found myself reflecting, as I often have in the year since, on Norman Mailer's "The Armies of the Night."

The book is about the 1967 anti-war protest at the Pentagon and, more broadly, the factionalizing unrest of that period and how Vietnam fueled it. It also explores how the quiet or mostly quiet acquiescence to horrors abroad, horrors carried out by U.S. troops in the name of an entire democratic nation, degrades a society. At one point, the narrator imagines himself encountering "Grandmother, the church-goer, orange hair burning bright" at a slot machine in Las Vegas. "Madame, we are burning children in Vietnam," he tells her. "Boy, you just go get yourself lost," she replies. "Grandma's about ready for a kiss from the jackpot."

The book turns its lens on the left as well, even on the anti-war protesters marching on the Pentagon. In its violent climax, as soldiers bludgeon young demonstrators in the night, Mailer cites an account that appeared afterward in the Washington Free Press, a newspaper founded by campus radicals. It was by Thorne Dreyer, then 22, who went on to a prolific career as a writer and activist. As the beatings commenced, Dreyer wrote, "I began to resent the ‘super-militants' who created so much pressure to stay. Because that was nothing but goddamn bourgeois politics. … People have to come to terms with what violence means. It's not something to groove on and cleanse your soul with."

I see a desire for violence as catharsis in many protesters on the left and right today and in the people cheering them on from their living rooms. It's an effect, I think, of the two full decades of war that Americans will mark on this year's September 11 anniversary, with the drone strikes and commando raids of the so-called war on terror carrying on in the background even as American soldiers leave Afghanistan and end their combat mission in Iraq. War, especially interminable war, does this to a nation. It makes people want to claim the sanctity of combat for themselves and to inject the stakes of conflict into their lives. The protesters at the Pentagon were there to stand against the violence of Vietnam, but some of them wanted a piece of that violence for themselves. They were jealous of the soldiers in that way; the war had infected them too. The difference with the post-9/11 wars is that there's no draft and there have been no corresponding liberal armies in the streets, at least not any focused on the nation's foreign conflicts. People crave the trappings of war more as they understand it less, and these modern wars, to a degree that would probably shock the people of Mailer's generation, have been absent from our collective political consciousness.

At the same time, all of us still know, in some perhaps unacknowledged part of our minds, that we each own a piece of the sublime suffering that has unfolded for 20 years on the frontiers of the American empire, the incinerated children and demolished cities, the service members coming home to die by suicide. Even those who never served have been grooving on the violence of the war on terror for years as armchair militants. Many Americans, like me, have never known adult life without it, growing up against the backdrop of terrorist threats, removing shoes at airports, invasion, occupation, Guantánamo Bay ‐ stakes we understand to be so terrible that the only answers are drone bombs, surveillance, civilian casualties. We've learned to put our morals on hold and ask forgiveness later as we assent to whatever it takes to extinguish the threat. We've become accustomed to labeling people as insurgents and terrorists, too, and to all the moral permissiveness these terms imply, moving us well beyond the orange-haired grandmother's passive assent.

And inevitably, it has all bent back on us. These wars have seeped into our lives and discourse in ways that color how we see not only the wider world but also our neighbors ‐ Muslims at first, then our political opponents. They've made Americans more war-like, opening our minds to ideas like collateral damage and unbounded conflict that are now taking hold in our politics.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/10/2021 05:42 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10794 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A provocative article and compendium of events. Unfortunately however, it blames the average citizen (age 40 and beyond) for the death of Pax Americana and the "sublime suffering."

Interview of the Author, if you can stand Jeff Golberg's constant use of 'uh' and Giglio's tiringly repetitive use of 'like'.

If this interview was intended to support book sales, I'm afraid it failed miserably.

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/10/2021 6:23 Comments || Top||

#2  opening our minds to ideas like collateral damage

That was covered pretty well by the Allied bombing offensive in WW2. By the end of the war concerns about civilian casualties was about at its lowest ebb. And it wasn't just the 'bad guys'.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/10/2021 9:44 Comments || Top||

#3  I recall long time ago reading a Guinness book of record to the effect that in the world of taking notes and records (history) that there has been around only two hundred years of peace in the world. Somebody is always doing something somewhere. America is an anomaly in experience long periods of peace to the effect they think what is normal for them is normal for the world and its history.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/10/2021 9:48 Comments || Top||

#4  /\ Switzerland appears to be doing pretty well with keeping the fok out of everyone else's business and saving a little money.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/10/2021 10:02 Comments || Top||

#5  The USA is an anomaly in its location, vast oceans to the east and west, and two at least tractable large nations to its north and south. Not many other large nations have been so favorably located.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/10/2021 10:37 Comments || Top||

#6  I worked in Switzerland and Lichtenstein for a few years. This was the only area I ever considered aside from the USA. They have their problems (seems to be tribal roots grounded) but in all a nice place. Right now, aiming for Texas or maybe Florida. Massachusetts has too many problems, I do not belong here.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 09/10/2021 11:45 Comments || Top||

#7  In some respects, the only way we get the sort of America us Rantburgers want is to never stop fighting for it. Most of the problems we have acquired since the end of WW II are because a lot of people figured they didn't have to fight for freedom any more.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/10/2021 12:07 Comments || Top||

#8  That was covered pretty well by the Allied bombing offensive in WW2. By the end of the war concerns about civilian casualties was about at its lowest ebb. And it wasn't just the 'bad guys'.

I've never heard of anger against Americans, Brits, and Canadians from the people of Normandy, despite the civilian casualties from D-Day and its preparations.

I've never heard any Americans -- or Germans -- whining about the US citizens who went to serve in the German army and died to bombs, artillery, bullets, or a bayonet.

The country isn't split because Afghanistan went on so long -- the Korean War hasn't ended, either -- but because of alien philosophies we've let fester and gain popularity among the power-hungry.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/10/2021 13:00 Comments || Top||

#9  In some respects, the only way we get the sort of America us Rantburgers want is to never stop fighting for it.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

That's one reason I hate the "it's over; the US is dead" and the "we need a national divorce" crowds. The first is surrender; the second is a child's fantasy.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/10/2021 13:02 Comments || Top||

#10  I'll second that, Rob. I don't see the intellectual capital to do a better job than the Founding Fathers did anywhere in America today. The left is completely insane and the right is unfortunately totally co-opted by grifters. Better we straighten out what we have.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/10/2021 13:07 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Joe Biden Announces Civil War
[Babylon Bee] U.S.—In a stirring address to the country today, Biden has announced a new Civil War.

"Look, folks—here's the deal. For real this time. No joke. The words on the screen I'm supposed to read are saying that we're gonna force millions of people to get vaccinated against their will. Gotta do it folks," said Biden as he read off the teleprompter. "To enforce this, we're just gonna have ourselves a little Civil War. It's been a while since we had one of those. Let's just fight it out until all the unvaccinated people are dead or we're all dead which will stop the spread of COVID. Win-win, folks."

Biden assured the American people they will lose the upcoming Civil War as they don't have any F-15's or nukes. Any unvaccinated Americans who survive will be sent to special camps where they will learn the importance of getting vaccinated.

"For real, I don't see how anyone can be against this! Come on, man!" Biden said.

(UPDATE: After reading an article in the Huffington Post that unvaccinated people are just like the Taliban, Biden immediately surrendered to them and gave them a bunch of free weapons.)
Posted by: Frank G || 09/10/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10796 views] Top|| File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats

#1  The Bee isnt really wrong. The speech Biden gave were the words of an autocrat, a dictator, not someone whose first duty is uphold protect and defend the CONSTITUTION, not to "keep people safe".

The people in the White House have gone mad!
Posted by: Chealing Chomotle4158 || 09/10/2021 1:55 Comments || Top||

#2  ...that crowd went stark raving mad in November 2016.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/10/2021 5:16 Comments || Top||

#3  /\ Not that it required re-validation, but there is that axiom about absolute power.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/10/2021 5:32 Comments || Top||

#4  And just like that, no one was talking about Afghanistan anymore....
Posted by: Mercutio || 09/10/2021 7:30 Comments || Top||

#5  #4 only the enabling media.
Posted by: Dale || 09/10/2021 8:44 Comments || Top||

#6 
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/10/2021 9:00 Comments || Top||

#7  All hell will break loose when they try to force all welfare recipients to show proof of COVID-19 vaccination and booster shots on a regular basis.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/10/2021 11:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Incoming voters in the southwest? Afghan refugees coming in all over? And the poor people, who can't afford to get to the clinic.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/10/2021 12:49 Comments || Top||

#9  OK so at first I thought the speech was written by the Onion, then I thought it was edited by the Bee. But alas, I now realize he hired the staff from Comedy Central to run the White House communications and policy.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/10/2021 18:04 Comments || Top||

#10  The people in the White House have gone mad!

No. They are lashing out at the American people.
Posted by: Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 || 09/10/2021 18:12 Comments || Top||

#11  Have gone?

Embrace the power of 'always have been'.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/10/2021 19:52 Comments || Top||

#12  Another Bee headline, many of which of which have come true. They want it - they have no other way out.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 09/10/2021 21:14 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Mice with bigger ears? Climate change is causing animals to 'shapeshift,' new study shows
[USAToday] Some animals are "shapeshifting" parts of their bodies, and it may be due to climate change, according to a new study.

The evidence of warm-blooded animals experiencing changes to appendages such as beaks, legs and ears was found by a team of researchers led by Sara Ryding of Deakin University in Australia and was published Tuesday in the journal Trends in Ecology & Evolution.

To measure the changes, researchers used what is known as Allen's Rule, which states that animals in colder climates have shorter limbs and appendages than those in warmer climates.
kinda explains my tiny doinker
The biggest evidence of change occurred in birds from Australia and North America. Australian parrots have shown an average increase of 4%–10% in bill surface area since 1871 as temperatures have risen. In North America, dark-eyed junco saw similar increases in bill size. Other changes showed wood mice having bigger ears and bats with larger wings.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/10/2021 02:24 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10797 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the change is not worldwide, it sounds more like local environmental changes should be considered rather than planetary climate change. I recall the moths in England that were selected for dark versus the former light colour when Industrial Revolution resulted in huge amounts of air pollution darkening the bark of the trees the moths liked to rest on, making the light coloured ones more visible to whatever it is that eats moths.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/10/2021 8:46 Comments || Top||

#2  wood mice having bigger ears and bats with larger wings

Heat radiators.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/10/2021 8:59 Comments || Top||

#3  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution
Posted by: james || 09/10/2021 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  That suggests to me that the adaptations to "warmer" have been needed before, if they're that easy to come about.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/10/2021 12:47 Comments || Top||

#5  wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution

Thank you for knowing what I meant better than I did myself, james.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/10/2021 21:07 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
20 Years after 9/11 – Are We Better Off?
[TownHall] - When the hijacked planes hit the twin towers of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon that first 9/11, the Taliban were in control of Afghanistan and providing sanctuary for al-Qaida.

Today, the Taliban are in control of Afghanistan and providing sanctuary to al-Qaida. What then did our longest war accomplish?

The Afghan army and government we stood up and sustained for decades has collapsed. The U.S. military has withdrawn. U.S. citizens and thousands of Afghans who fought alongside us have been left behind.

The triumphant Taliban of today are far stronger than were the Taliban of 2001 who fled at the approach of the Northern Alliance. Al-Qaida is now present in many more countries than it was when we first launched the Global War on Terror.

Nor is the America of 2021 the hubristic self-confident country of George W. Bush and the neocons who were going to convert the Middle East into something like our Middle West and advance from there "with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world."

Our country is a changed place from 2001. Gone are the unity, confidence and resolution. And how have all our interventions gone?

Call the roll.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/10/2021 03:03 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [10801 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gone are the unity, confidence and resolution On 9/11/2001 I scoured the internet for indications of those who were NOT part of this so-called "unity". There were plenty of them, authors of which had the sense to simply shut up and keep their own "death-to-America" sentiments quiet for a while. Those deviant comments and links disappeared within a few weeks of 9/11/2001. E.g. I remember stories of candy being distributed in Paleostine to celebrate the attacks, and something about Yasir Arafat trying to quash the news about the joy there. Now the "death-to-America" faction is running things.
Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 || 09/10/2021 9:36 Comments || Top||

#2  They've certainly centralized and grabbed more power over our lives since then. The ruling class is more about power and control than solving problems. Their faux virtue is more important than doing what is necessary as shown by thousands of years of human history.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/10/2021 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  After Vietnam we were shown the end of the "losing is not an option" school of thought.
Afghanistan has given us the "Winning is not an option" result.
Mayhaps the exit from this particular loop we're in is to abandon the win/lose binary, and just go with smite them.
Posted by: ed in texas || 09/10/2021 12:38 Comments || Top||

#4  I joked about it at the time, but we might have been better off with Gore in power because he might have moved us away from the oil economy and onto Nukes. That combined with the initial removal of Taliban would have been a nice move.

Of course Gore's a lib and thus anti-nuke so it wouldn't have worked the way I'd hoped.
Posted by: ruprecht || 09/10/2021 12:57 Comments || Top||

#5  If the neocons are finally discredited, that's a positive outcome.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/10/2021 13:44 Comments || Top||

#6  So on the 20th anniversary of 911 we have come to realize a few things. 1. The people that attacked America, on American soil have won the war. This is a first as no one have ever attacked us and survived. 2. We gave them status and legitimacy on the world stage. They are now going to the UN as a legit state due to us. 3. We completely outfitted their military. 4. And in the Biden budget we have a funding line to pay for rebuilding their country. Tomorrow will be a tough day as we remember the lives and fortune we spent and walked away losers.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/10/2021 18:12 Comments || Top||

#7  Pretty much everything Bin Laden wanted to achieve by 9/11 we in fact simply handed it to AQ. Perhaps, he had that understanding all along.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 09/10/2021 21:17 Comments || Top||

#8  The Hundred Year was was actually more than one war between the same countries. War on Terror may resume if the Taliban over-reaches.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/10/2021 23:30 Comments || Top||

#9  See also, Crusades.
Posted by: George Elmoluting3662 || 09/10/2021 23:57 Comments || Top||



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Fri 2021-09-10
  Taliban agreed to allow 200 foreigners to leave Afghanistan
Thu 2021-09-09
  Resistance leaders Massoud, Saleh still in Afghanistan's Panjshir, setting up parallel govt
Wed 2021-09-08
  UN Vows Full Support For The Taliban
Tue 2021-09-07
  Four Americans Leave Afghanistan by Land in First Departures Since US Pullout
Mon 2021-09-06
  Pak Taliban claims suicide blast near Afghan border that killed 4
Sun 2021-09-05
  General Milley: ‘What You Saw Unfold' with Afghanistan Evacuation Was One of the Plans'
Sat 2021-09-04
  Egypt pumps toxic gas into Gaza tunnel, three Palestinians dead
Fri 2021-09-03
  British-born ISIS "Beatle'' due to plead guilty
Thu 2021-09-02
  Taliban confirm that the group’s Supreme Leader Hibatullah Akhundzada will be top authority
Wed 2021-09-01
  Six Iraqis on death row executed, three for 'terrorism': medic
Tue 2021-08-31
  Final US evacuation flights leave, ending America’s 20-year Afghanistan war, equipment left behind disabled
Mon 2021-08-30
  US Airstrike Hits Suicide Bombers Targeting Kabul Airport
Sun 2021-08-29
  Last British flight evacuating civilians from Afghanistan leaves Kabul
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  Biden Pledges to 'Hunt Down' Those Behind Airport Attack
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  Karzai, Abdullah house-arrested by Taliban in Kabul

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