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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Why Was the US Department of Defense Funding Bioweapons Research at Wuhan?
[Red State] (EDITOR’S NOTE: After reviewing thousands, and perhaps tens of thousands, of documents regarding the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic, we’ve got lots of questions. This post asks a very important question that every American should be asking their representatives to dig into. Our Scott Hounsell had another question regarding EcoHealth Alliance and its participation in the PPP program. Read that here.)

Late Friday the British publication DailyMail reported that the United States Department of Defense provided $39 million in grant funding to "EcoHealth Alliance" as part of the aggregated grant funding received by EcoHealth Alliance to conduct various types of "gain of function" virus research — a type of research in which scientists engineer viruses to make them more transmissible or lethal and which can be used to create bioweapons.

EcoHealth Alliance used a large amount of its funding to support research projects on the subject at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, led by Chinese "bat virus" expert Dr. Shi Zenglhi — the "Bat Lady."

While the Daily Mail report is fairly exhaustive, I think it is important to note that RedState, led by my colleague Scott Hounsell, was asking questions about US government funding gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab back in February.

Further, back on May 11 — three weeks ago — Scott reported on the testy responses by Dr. Fauci to questions posed to him by Sen. Rand Paul about whether or not the US government, through the National Institute of Health (NIH), had provided funding to the Wuhan lab that had been used to conduct "gain of function" research involving viral mutations such as that which is thought to possibly have created the SARS-CoV-2 virus that led to the COVID-19 pandemic. Dr. Fauci adamantly denied that NIH had funded any such research.

NIH is not DOD, so you might wonder why these references are important.

Since that May 11 story, Scott has written another 16 stories on US government grant funding of research taking place at the Wuhan lab, the individuals involved, the efforts to deflect suspicion or blame for the COVID pandemic on any of the work done in Wuhan or any of the individuals involved in conducting the research.

Scott has written many of his stories based on original sources like grant paperwork and other documentation he has obtained through various sources. The DailyMail story today mostly serves to only validate and corroborate much of what Scott has already reported. From the DailyMail:
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 14:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [142 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Prohibited here, obviously NOT prohibited there. What are your questions ?

Bottom line: The Pentagon was, through USAID, funding research of bioweapons as part of its responsibility to develop defenses to bioweapon attacks — anti-viral treatments and vaccines. To develop treatments and vaccines for bioweapons, you need to first develop such weapons.

EcoHealth Alliance took funding for research from that USAID, money that came from a Unted States Department of Defense bioweapons research agency, and spent it doing research on bioweapons with a state-run bioweapons lab in China.

Therefore, the United States military was (possibly unwittingly) funding bioweapons research at a military bioweapons lab in China. For years.


Emphasis added.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 14:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Ques: In the interest of time-saving and accuracy, when discussing or referring to USAID, would anyone object if we simply defaulted to their parent organization, the Central Intelligence Agency ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 14:15 Comments || Top||

#3  To develop treatments and vaccines for bioweapons, you need to first develop such weapons.

Only if one believes that there is a limited number of possibilities for bioweapons. That is, if one has less understanding of the subject than a garbage eating street dog.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/08/2021 14:16 Comments || Top||

#4  a garbage eating street dog

Which could be considered a bioweapon variant.
Posted by: Skidmark || 06/08/2021 14:34 Comments || Top||

#5  ^My point, nobody is that stupid - you don't develop bioweapons to develop defenses.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/08/2021 14:37 Comments || Top||

#6  grom,

up to the 70s the USA did develop bioweapons partly in order to see what antidotes or vaccines worked

some pretty fearsome bio agents were still in the stock at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds Chemical Biological Center up to the 80s -- they may still have some as this Center is under control of the Dept of the Army

they continue to do work on defense against known bio agents, e.g., botulism toxin, ebola virus, etc.

I suspect they are, by law, not allowed to create new agents but as we know, the Wuhan Inst of Virology was not under such laws.
Posted by: Lord Garth || 06/08/2021 15:35 Comments || Top||

#7  up to the 70s the USA did develop bioweapons partly in order to see what antidotes or vaccines worked

In 1970es nobody knew zilch about Immunology. Today we know that every pathogen (even two closely related strains of common cold) are different enough so immunity to one doesn't give immunity to another.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/08/2021 15:48 Comments || Top||

#8  ^The great thing about the Western Covid vaccines is that they're specific to the spike protein - the part that makes the virus dangerous. If the virus mutates so far that the spike changes so much that an schooled immune system doesn't recognizes it - it, probably, changed so much it's no longer functional.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/08/2021 16:00 Comments || Top||

#9  ...a garbage eating street dog.

Is that reference some sort of take-off on "dog-faced pony soldier?"

Sorry, it just rang a bell.


Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 16:47 Comments || Top||

#10  #9 No, it's just an expression that came into my mind years ago while reading some anonymous reviewer evaluation of my paper. I, occasionally, reminded of it in circumstances such as above.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/08/2021 17:03 Comments || Top||

#11  Why Was the US Department of Defense Funding Bioweapons Research at Wuhan?

So it wouldn't breakout here?
Posted by: Skidmark || 06/08/2021 17:53 Comments || Top||


Ep. 1537 The Key To The Lab Leak Theory Is Dead? - The Dan Bongino Show
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 13:37 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [40 views] Top|| File under:


The Long Shadow of the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine ‘Fiasco'
[Smithsonian] In the spring of 1976, it looked like that year’s flu was the real thing. Spoiler alert: it wasn’t, and rushed response led to a medical debacle that hasn’t gone away.

"Some of the American public’s hesitance to embrace vaccines — the flu vaccine in particular — can be attributed to the long-lasting effects of a failed 1976 campaign to mass-vaccinate the public against a strain of the swine flu virus," writes Rebecca Kreston for Discover. "This government-led campaign was widely viewed as a debacle and put an irreparable dent in future public health initiative, as well as negatively influenced the public’s perception of both the flu and the flu shot in this country."

To begin with: You should get a flu shot. You should certainly get all of your other vaccines and make sure your children get them. They will protect you and others from getting deadly and debilitating things like mumps, whooping cough, polio and measles. But this is a story about one time over 40 years ago when poor decision-making on the part of the government led to the unnecessary vaccination of about 45 million citizens. We can't blame it for the modern anti-vaccine movement, which has more recent roots in a retracted paper that linked one vaccine to autism, but it certainly had an effect on the public's view of vaccines.

On February 4, 1976, a young soldier named David Lewis died of a new form of flu. In the middle of the month, F. David Matthews, the U.S. secretary of health, education and welfare, announced that an epidemic of the flu that killed Pvt. Lewis was due in the fall. "The indication is that we will see a return of the 1918 flu virus that is the most virulent form of flu," he said, reports Patrick di Justo for Salon. He went on: The 1918 outbreak of "Spanish flu" killed half a million Americans, and the upcoming apocalypse was expected to kill a million.

Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 07:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [133 views] Top|| File under:

#1 

We got the Hog-Flu vax when it got to GA finally. We were both mildly sick the next day, for about 48 hrs.

Since then we have avoided the growing all too common cycle of Panic Virus Vax's and just practiced common Flu environmental precautions.

Maybe Lucky, maybe just being more cautious.
But no infections from flu or etc... since 1978
Posted by: NN2N1 || 06/08/2021 7:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Wife & I both got that swine flu vaccine. I had a little soreness at the injection site for a few hours, same as with any other such shot. Wife was so sick she was afraid to go to sleep for fear she wouldn't wake up. (We believe my great grandmother died of the original 'Spanish' flu version.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/08/2021 9:30 Comments || Top||

#3  expected to kill a million.

Big deal! The China Flu was going to kill 2.2 million Americans.

Our elitist betters have kept that down to about 600,000, so far. Trust the CDC! /sarc
Posted by: Bobby || 06/08/2021 10:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Hmmm, the 'off sarc' tag disappeared.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/08/2021 10:55 Comments || Top||

#5  ...My mother was about halfway through a 42-year career as an RN when this happened.

She refused to let us get it, swearing we'd never get it.

Mike

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 06/08/2021 11:26 Comments || Top||

#6  My wife and I were 'sicker than dogs' with this flu and mostly down and in bed for about 2 weeks.

Of course the kids were just fine and still had to get to school.

NOTHING closed. Never did get the vaccine.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 06/08/2021 12:46 Comments || Top||

#7  the 'off sarc' tag disappeared.

I deleted the angle brackets, Bobby. When you put something inside angle brackets, the program thinks it’s something that it needs to execute, not just display.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/08/2021 12:56 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
Trump in 2022
[Townhall] May 30 - Wayne Allen Root
Trump appeared to be fascinated by my idea. He'd clearly never heard it before.

I want Trump to run for a House seat in 2022. Pick a winnable Republican district in Florida - where the president is beloved. I promise 74 million-plus Trump voters will get excited. They will volunteer, donate, spread the word and, yes, many will move to your district in Florida to help elect you, Mr. President.

This isn't about one House seat. With Trump campaigning and leading the battle, Republicans will sweep to victory in 2022 with the biggest GOP voter turnout in history. We will win a GOP House landslide by 40 to 60 seats -- just like in 2010 and 2014.

Now, to the important part of my plan. The GOP Congress then elects Trump as speaker of the House - the second most powerful job in America. From that platform, Trump rules Washington, D.C., for the next two years. He is President Joe Biden's worst nightmare.

Speaker of the House Trump can open a dozen criminal investigations against Biden. He can lead the impeachment of Biden (how ironic would that be?). He can block every single Biden bill. He will stop the Biden agenda dead in its tracks.
It's be enough for me to stop the agenda.
And don't forget, Speaker of the House Trump can sit behind Biden for each State of the Union address. I can't wait to watch that.

I told Trump he will become an American folk hero. His legend will grow even bigger. His brand and actions will dominate Washington politics leading into 2024. From that platform, folk hero Trump wins the presidency again in 2024 - after first saving America from the Biden disaster.

Trump was clearly fascinated by the idea. He should be. It's a game-changer for Trump, for the GOP and for America.
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#2 
I'd vote for him for any political office, where he can stop or ham string the DC BS.

But if he ran for the WH again?
What VP names would any of y'all suggest?
Posted by: NN2N1 || 06/08/2021 8:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Allen West
Posted by: bman || 06/08/2021 11:29 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm on the fence with this idea. On one hand he is old and going for Congress leaves him lots of options of when he feels he no longer wants to serve. On the other hand if he wins President for another term his VP is in a really good place to grab 2 more terms if he gets the right guy.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/08/2021 11:57 Comments || Top||

#5  But he should beware of looking as if this is just a stepping stone to another Presidential run in 2024.

Remember Richard Nixon's disastrous run for governor in California in 1962 and the hay that Pat Brown made of accusing him of using California as a stepping stone.
Posted by: Tom || 06/08/2021 12:18 Comments || Top||

#6  No longer Blue Anon talk then.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 06/08/2021 13:00 Comments || Top||

#7  i'd love to see him up there with the gavel that he wrenched from Pelosi's claws.

maybe have it gold plated

the one flaw in this plan is relying on the GOP to elect him speaker.
Posted by: Retard Strength || 06/08/2021 14:08 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Guatemalan President Blasts Biden's Border Policies for Enabling Criminal Human Smugglers
[Townhall] After gifting reporters a cookie of her face, Vice President Kamala Harris has made her way to Guatemala to discuss the "root causes" of an unprecedented surge of illegal immigration into the United States since President Biden took office in January.

Ahead of her arrival, Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei blasted the Biden Administration for "family reunification" policies that enable human trafficking and smuggling.

"The message changed to 'we're going to reunite families and we're going to reunite children. The very next day the coyotes were here organizing groups of children to take them to the United States," Giammattei said during an interview with CBS News.

Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 06:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [59 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As some would say, standard Latin response.
Posted by: Skidmark || 06/08/2021 22:17 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
The agendas of the June 16th summit do not coincide
Direct Translation
by Alexander Zapolskis

[Regnum] The closer the date of June 16, 2021 gets, the sharper the intrigue on the content of the talks between the presidents of Russia and the United States in Geneva becomes. On the one hand, there are a great many topics for discussion and all the key ones. On the other hand, Joe Biden in The Washington Post published an article summarizing his position on fiducials, and it almost completely contradicts ours.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: badanov || 06/08/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [67 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I am hopeful but not confident that this will not be a rerun of the Kennedy-Khrushchev summit in Vienna in 1961.
Posted by: Tom || 06/08/2021 12:19 Comments || Top||


Government Corruption
Institutional Collapse
[TAKIMAG] ...The Bolshevik Revolution is another good example from that period.
...when the most trusted institutions of European society, the military and the aristocracy, collapsed following the first world war...
It was made possible by a tsarist system that squandered its authority and created distrust among the people. The nutty behavior of the Tsar and his wife made the institution an object of mockery. This magnified the cultural, economic, and class frictions. The collapse of social trust in tsarist Russia made revolution necessary and inevitable. Bolshevism promised to restock social trust with a new and abundant alternative.

Russia provides another relevant example on this topic. The official narrative is that Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. His economic and military policies accelerated the demise of a bad system. In reality it was the Afghan war that broke the Soviet system. The Red Army was the most trusted institution in Soviet Russia in the 1970s. Its failures in Afghanistan and the subsequent lies to hide the truth cratered the most trusted institution in Russia. Collapse soon followed.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 06/08/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [130 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the experts are just as corrupt and rapacious as the political class, they can no longer be trusted.

The 'experts' and 'political class' joined hands long ago and are now nearly indistinguishable. I believe the current term of reference is a... 'distinction without a difference.' I'm assuming a Doctor Anthony Fauci graphic would be nearly as redundant as my comment.

ol·i·gar·chy
/ˈäləˌɡärkē/, noun, A small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution. A country governed by an oligarchy. "the English aristocratic oligarchy of the 19th century" government by an oligarchy.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 5:34 Comments || Top||

#2  A tweet by Omri Ceren, who works for Ted Cruz:

"Americans look at our late modern expert class - a clique of I-95 Mean Girls except without the edge of self-awareness, who lucky for each other get to credential and hire each other - and understandably though unfortunately say "if this is what expertise is, to hell with it.""
Posted by: Matt || 06/08/2021 7:46 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Governor DeSantis's star keeps rising
[American Thinker] DeSantis has an unmistakable political glow about him. Whether being treated like a star performer at a massive country music jam in Florida or being one of the top people on Donald Trump’s radar should Trump win again, people like what they see.

On Sunday, Florida held the largest music festival in America since February 2020. The Pepsi Gulf Coast Jam, in Panama City Beach, saw more than 20,000 people gather together for the three-day country music festival. Big stars were appearing: Lynyrd Skynyrd, Luke Bryan, Brooks & Dunn, Chris Stapleton...and Ron DeSantis. Yup, DeSantis dropped by for a quick visit and got the same star treatment as the named performers:
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 05:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [90 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unless the Dominion candidate can be defeated, my enthusiasm remains muted.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 5:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I like him. He needs to be careful, bright lights get attention. They will target him and discredit him where possible. As a mentor once told me, a shooting star is in reality burning in.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 06/08/2021 11:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Pop flare.
It'll drop while they're still charging.
Posted by: Skidmark || 06/08/2021 22:18 Comments || Top||


Iraq
40 years ago - Operation Opera: Israel destroyed Iraq's nuclear program and saved the West
[Arutz7] - In the late 1970s, Iraq purchased an "Osiris class" nuclear reactor from France (some things never change). Israeli military intelligence assumed this was for plutonium production to further an Iraqi nuclear weapons program. Israeli intelligence also believed that the summer of 1981 would be the last chance to destroy the reactor without exposing the Iraqi civilian population to nuclear fallout. After that point, the reactor would be loaded with nuclear fuel.

Israel prevented a nuclear Iraq

...Israel first pursued a diplomatic solution to the situation.

...In meetings with Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger and Secretary of State Alexander Haig, there was agreement about the Israeli assessment regarding the Iraqi nuclear threat. American representatives even verified Israeli assessments that Iraq was working to reach nuclear capability and exploit the ability to influence and destroy Israel. Despite the American consensus, the Americans refused to act. Perhaps because they did not truly grasp the danger or did not want to upset Iraq, which was fighting America’s enemy, Iran.

"Yitzchak Shamir, negotiated with French presidents Valery Giscard-D’Estaing and his successor Francois Mitterand. The French proved intransigent, looking out for their own economic interests as Iraq was by far their top customer for military hardware. The payments to France came mostly in the form of oil. [Then as now the French Government couldn't care less about dead Jews]


As the IDF reported it:

"4 pm, the evening before the Shavout holiday, 1981, orders were given to begin operations. At 5:35.a squadron of IAF F-16 fighter aircraft flew over Iraqi skies and dropped a number of bombs. The nuclear reactor was completely destroyed. Mission accomplished. One after another, the pilots shouted the code word "Alpha" into their radios, signaling their success. Zev Raz, Amus Yadlin, Chagi katz, Amir Nahumi, Yiftach Spector, Yisraeli Shapir, and Ilan Ramon- changed history, erasing the nuclear threat of the enemy."
History never repeats itself, but it often rhymes
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/08/2021 17:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [54 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I love it when a plan comes together!
Posted by: Skidmark || 06/08/2021 22:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Sadly, that was 40 years ago.
Posted by: Skidmark || 06/08/2021 22:14 Comments || Top||

#3 
Time to dust off the old plans, they get Nuke
-See what happens right before your eyes..now right now... Use the NUKEMAP Go ahead, A "Game for Adults" - and tin-pot terrorist states.


.... Dare Ya !
Posted by: Lemuel Oppressor of the Munchkins2590 || 06/08/2021 22:27 Comments || Top||


Experts in Missing Opportunities
[ENGLISH.AAWSAT] Sometimes words haunt the writer. They catch his attention and seize him. Sometimes it’s about words he heard or was touched by, or words he felt and could not forget.

As a wandering Arab journalist, I carried the recorder between many Arab capitals, from Khartoum to Baghdad and Sanaa. The word that has haunted me for years is "failure".

"Failure" came to mind yesterday when I was asking for clarification about the downing of two booby-trapped drones that attempted to target the Iraqi base of Ain al-Asad, which includes American soldiers or experts. I was seeking for a clarification because Iraq is heading towards a major test represented in the early parliamentary elections scheduled for October 10.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 06/08/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [102 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran Proxies

#1  I asked my experienced Iraqi friend for his opinion, and he did not try to hide his pessimism. He said that Iraqi politicians are at this very moment ceaselessly still talking about the American failure in Iraq, without once reflecting on the Iraqi failure in Iraq.

Chriping a common global theme. The instant we begin to hear this, we should have hat and coat in hand and be headed to the car.

Excellent post, BTW. Thanks Fred.

Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 5:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Chriping a common global theme. The instant we begin to hear this, we should have hat and coat in hand and be headed to the car.

Where you hear about "systemic racism"?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/08/2021 5:53 Comments || Top||

#3  /\ ....or Israeli apartheid.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/08/2021 6:05 Comments || Top||

#4  like the dude that just became a dad to 10 kids at once! hey baby its cold the grid is down lets stay warm and snuggle!
Posted by: Sluse Grealet9429 || 06/08/2021 17:16 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Remembering when Israel attacked the US
A tendentious title... We discussed the subject at length back in 2003, when it was pointed out that in war mistakes happen in which people die unfairly, and America has made some of them.
Today back in 1967: During the six-day Middle East war, 34 American servicemen were killed when Israel attacked the USS Liberty, a Navy intelligence-gathering ship in the Mediterranean Sea. (Israel later said the Liberty had been mistaken for an Egyptian vessel.)
The USS Liberty was an electronic intelligence-gathering ship that was cruising international waters off the Egyptian coast on June 8, 1967. Israeli planes and torpedo boats opened fire on the Liberty at what became known as the outbreak of the Israeli-Egyptian Six-Day War. In addition to the 34 Americans killed, more than 170 were wounded. Calls to the Navy seeking comment were not immediately returned.

Israel has long maintained that the attack was a case of mistaken identity, an explanation that the Johnson administration did not formally challenge. Israel claimed its forces thought the ship was an Egyptian vessel and apologized to the United States.
From the Jerusalem Post on the subject in 2011:
The pilots of the four jets that attacked the Liberty remained anonymous for decades. One died in 1979 in an aviation accident, and in 2003, one of them agreed to give this reporter an exclusive interview of his impressions from that fateful day.

He is Yitfach Spector, a famous Israeli pilot who went on to become a triple ace, shooting down 15 enemy aircraft, and taking part in the infamous 1981 raid on the Iraqi nuclear reactor. He was finally dismissed from the Air Force in 2003 for signing a letter with other pilots protesting the policy of targeted killings of Palestinian terrorists.

Brig.-Gen. (ret.) Spector says in that interview that the Americans aboard the Liberty were “lucky” he wasn’t carrying any iron bombs otherwise he would have sunk the ship.

“There was a mistake. Mistakes happen. As far as I know, the mistake was of the USS Liberty being there in the first place,” says Spector, who at the time was deputy squadron commander of the 101st and used the code name “Kursa” during the attack.

"I was told on the radio that it was an Egyptian ship off the Gaza coast. Hit it. The luck of the ship was that I was armed only with light ammunition against aircraft. If I had had a bomb it would be sitting on the bottom today like the Titanic. I promise you," Spector says.

Cristol and Spector remain baffled about the persistence of the conspiracy theories that assert that Israel deliberately attacked the ship. Some theories suggest Israel hit the ship because it picked up communications that Israel was about to invade Syria, or was massacred prisoners of war. Cristol suggests it had to do with anti-Israel sentiments.

“There are people who are anti-Israel or who are on the other side of the Arab-Israeli conflict and because the United States-Israel relationship is so strong and so good they find very few ways to attack it. This is one of the focal points on which they like to aim when they are attempting to attack and destroy that relationship,” Cristol says.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 06/08/2021 08:01 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [133 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...My father liked to point out that the truly successful conspiracies in history can likely be counted on the fingers of one hand. What happened to Liberty was a horrifying mistake, but a mistake nevertheless.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 06/08/2021 11:23 Comments || Top||

#2  The name of the ship is so ripe for metaphors.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 06/08/2021 11:59 Comments || Top||

#3  It wasn't mistaken identity. The US ship was broadcasting correctly and had Old Glory flying from the stern. It's just that it was an intelligence snooper and Israel had some very dirty deeds to do to the Arabs and didn't want anyone watching.
Posted by: Jiggs Trotsky5854 || 06/08/2021 13:46 Comments || Top||

#4  https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/israel-attacks-uss-liberty
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 06/08/2021 16:07 Comments || Top||

#5  'But Sir, It’s an American Ship.' 'Never Mind, Hit Her!' When Israel Attacked USS Liberty

Israeli pilot to IDF war room: This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?

IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Yes, follow orders.

Israeli pilot to IDF war room: But sir, it’s an American ship - I can see the flag!

IDF war room to Israeli pilot: Never mind; hit it.

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/but-sir-its-an-american-ship-never-mind-hit-her-1.5492908
Posted by: Jiggs Trotsky5854 || 06/08/2021 16:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Ironically, its sister ship was the Pueblo which sits in a North Korean port. It took two 'incidents' before they moved intel collecting to an conventionally armed combat ship.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/08/2021 16:36 Comments || Top||

#7  we attack israel all the time by proxy and highly advanced enabling by protecting the trash that funds them eu imf woke ewoks in washington when do we declare victory?
Posted by: Sluse Grealet9429 || 06/08/2021 17:06 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Palestine's Wars in-- Lebanon
[ENGLISH.AAWSAT] During the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamaswith about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
war, many voices were heard in Leb
...an Iranian colony situated on the eastern Mediterranean, conveniently adjacent to Israel. Formerly inhabited by hardy Phoenecian traders, its official language is now Arabic, with the usual unpleasant side effects. The Leb civil war, between 1975 and 1990, lasted a little over 145 years and produced 120,000 fatalities. The average length of a ceasefire was measured in seconds. The Lebs maintain a precarious sectarian balance among Shiites, Sunnis, and about a dozeen flavors of Christians. It is the home of Hezbollah, which periodically starts a war with the Zionist Entity, gets Beirut pounded to rubble, and then declares victory and has a parade. The Lebs have the curious habit of periodically murdering their heads of state or prime ministers, a practice dating back to the heady human sacrifice days of Baal Moloch...
; two among them are striking, at least on social media: one does not want to empathize with the Paleostinians in the slightest, because of Lebanism, and the other wants to open the Lebanese border for war with Israel, citing their enthusiasm for fighting Israel, and also Arabism and Islam.
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Posted by: Fred || 06/08/2021 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [61 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah

#1  The last time Palestinians were present in significant numbers in Lebanon, they tried to take over the country. The wonder is that they weren't expelled en masse, not that some Lebanese are celebrating their discomfiture.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 06/08/2021 7:37 Comments || Top||



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