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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Tim Tzouliadis' book The Forsaken reviewed
Yes, it's Unz, which is an automatic turn-off for some, but the book review is worthwhile. I sure intend to read it. Also note, Linh Dinh has a short prelude of observations about his ongoing peregrinations before the book review begins. Scroll down if you don't dig the local color reporting.
[Unz] Thanks to an Unz commenter, mark tapley, I found out about Tim Tzouliadis’ The Forsaken. Scrupulously researched and beautifully written, it’s 364 pages of harrowing yet mesmerizing reading, and entirely relevant to our times. Most instructively, Tzouliadis highlights the moral dimension of each character, from world figures to the forsaken and practically erased, even now.

Tzouliadis’ important book was completely ignored by the Washington Post and New York Times, etc., but it’s no surprise, really, for the red tinted Paper of Record had just run a remarkably bloodless, wistful and even optimistic series on Communism, The Red Century. Since there were a few unfortunate snags the first time around, let’s do it again, but more political correctly. It’s time for a Red redux!
By 1937, Soviet Russia has already disappeared 17 million souls. Tzouliadis, "According to a report from Mech, a Russian-language weekly published in Poland, the [1937] census declared a population total of 159 million, instead of the projected 176, amounting to 17 million people who had disappeared [...] Stalin reacted to the news by having the hapless statisticians shot. A new census was ordered whose experts learned from their predecessors’ mistakes and wisely presented the ’correct’ set of results. Years later a secret report ordered by Nikita Khrushchev revealed that between 1935 and 1941, the NKVD arrested more than 19 million citizens."

At the beginning of the 1930’s, however, no one could foresee this impending carnage, so thousands rushed to the Socialist Paradise. "In the first eight months of 1931 alone, Amtorg—the Soviet trade agency based in New York—received more than one hundred thousand American applications for emigration to the USSR." As the country collapsed, like right now, citizens simply fled. There were "more people out of work in the United States, both actually and proportionately, than in any other nation on earth."

This influx of Americans was a propaganda bonanza for the Soviets, so they gladly touted how well these transplants were doing. In 1934, 30,000 Russians watched as a 19-year-old American, Victor Herman, jumped from an airplane to set the world free fall record, at 142 seconds. Herman was feted as "the Lindbergh of Russia."

When a black American, Robert Robinson, was assaulted by two white compatriots, the resulting trial generated worldwide publicity. Ironically, the repatriation of his assailants likely saved their lives, while Robinson would be stuck in the Soviet Union for 44 years, with his attempts to get out repeatedly thwarted.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/21/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6466 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I first learnt about idiots who’d defected to the Soviet Union in the 1985 film White Nights. To be honest, we went for the dancing. But the story of the Gregory Hines character, an African American who had bought the 1968-er hype, only to discover that over there he was discriminated against and abused for both his skin colour and his nationality... that was a revelation.

A few years later Mr. Wife had a Bangladeshi colleague who had been sent to military school and then university in Moscow,. He had more interesting stories to tell — though I don’t doubt the ones told in my presence were sanitized. It suffices to say that the discrimination he enjoyed in Germany was not new to him.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2020 20:17 Comments || Top||

Jordan B. Peterson Returns Home
[YouTube] I have returned home to Toronto after spending much of the last eighteen months in hospitals. I am hoping that my health has improved to the point where I can start producing original content again. Thank you to all who are watching for your support over the course of this trying time. I hope that you all are coping with the COVID crisis successfully.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/21/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6483 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Feel good story of the day. This man has suffered.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/21/2020 11:40 Comments || Top||

#2  He looks like hell. I hope he continues to improve.

First he burned the candle on both ends for two years. Then his wife developed cancer and was expected to die (she recovered, thankfully). He had a nervous breakdown. In response, he was prescribed heavy duty tranks, to which it turned out he was highly allergic. It took a year to bring him back from the brink.
Posted by: KBK || 10/21/2020 12:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Wonder how this brush with death will affect Jordan's philosophy of life.... Will he move in the direction of Dostoevsky? Or Tolstoy? Camus?

Can't wait to hear from him.
Posted by: Phineng Panda4690 || 10/21/2020 17:27 Comments || Top||

-Land of the Free
American Gothic Horror
[Kunstler] That something wicked we spoke of coming our way...? Well, it came. Now we know why Nancy Pelosi has been running around in a fright mask with her hair on fire, and it’s not just a ghoulish anticipation of Halloween. Her Democratic Party is in extremis. It is shot through with the cancer of falsehood and the wormholes of crime, acquired through decades of playing fast and loose with the machinery of government. Nancy has been informed and she remains stuck in the rage stage of the grief cycle. Somebody sent her a copy of that hard-drive. The thing she feared would not end well is actually turning out worse than she thought.

I have a theory about Joe Biden: He didn’t want to run for president. Not one eensy-weensy bit. He wanted a nice, quiet retirement with his fat government pension plus sundry millions that had somehow found its way into his bank account over the years. He had a fabulous $16-million gentleman’s estate to gambol upon with his beloved grandchildren. The developing brain-fog was actually a comfort, allowing him to forget the rigors of public service and all the tedious gathering of... honoraria, shall we say. But then they came for him...!

The Party called. Rather specifically, his old Kemosabe, Barack Obama, called him in for that ominous sit-down and gave him the bad news: Joe, you’ve gotta run. Bernie, Liz, and the rest of those bozos, they won’t keep a lid on it. You’re in this thing as deep as we are and it’s getting a little hairy. You’ve got to do it for the sake of the party, and all our... friends....
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Posted by: 746 || 10/21/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6486 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Giuliani should open-source the contents of the hard drive and let the public mine the data. Extract the metadata from and time-stamp each document.

Then sort them into multiple tables defined as people; funding sources; uses of funds; size timing and flows of funds, etc.

Once this is done it will be child's play to expose & bring down "the Big Guy."
Posted by: Elmosh McCoy4083 || 10/21/2020 2:29 Comments || Top||

#2  sort them into multiple tables

Term Frequency/Inverse Document Frequency
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/21/2020 8:26 Comments || Top||

#3  The Hard drive is now safe in the hands of the FBI.
Posted by: Mercutio || 10/21/2020 8:42 Comments || Top||

#4  FBI Top Men Top Men...
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/21/2020 9:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Biden was chosen because the Democrats don't expect to win. He chose the least popular primary candidate for the same reason. Biden-Harris is a ticket of the most expendable believable candidates.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/21/2020 9:39 Comments || Top||

#6  So then, Rob, their plan is four more years of complaining about the unfair election? COuld be...
Posted by: Bobby || 10/21/2020 10:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Don't you mean bitching about everything they don't get their way about?
Posted by: Chris || 10/21/2020 10:51 Comments || Top||

#8  might give them an excuse to ramp up Antifa/BLM bad behavior until it basically becomes a real war/revolution
Posted by: 746 || 10/21/2020 11:21 Comments || Top||

Posted by: Clem || 10/21/2020 11:23 Comments || Top||

4 Factors Suggest COVID-19 Lockdowns & Restrictions Have Caused More Harm Than Good
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/21/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6474 views] Top|| File under:

#3  Israel just cut infection rate by a factor of 10 through 3 weeks of lockdown. Here in ME we have a saying "dogs bark, but the caravan just keeps going".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/21/2020 10:26 Comments || Top||

#4  As Bobby Subgum would say, "Man who stand on toilet is high on pot..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/21/2020 13:44 Comments || Top||

#5  One in ten under-50s will be struck by 'long Covid', data shows as government releases film warning of disease's 'devastating' effects

The latest name for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Nobody yet knows why for some people the immune system does not reset back to normal after an infection or mental/physical stress. They called it neurasthenia or nervous exhaustion around the time of the Spanish Flu pandemic.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2020 17:16 Comments || Top||

I'm almost starting to think this whole pandemic really is a conspiracy
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/21/2020 09:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6485 views] Top|| File under:

#2  starting to think is good
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/21/2020 11:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Kinda like a pro-war Dem who changes his/her tune once public opinion goes the other way.
Posted by: Clem || 10/21/2020 11:22 Comments || Top||

#4  They screwed up. If you are an incompetent public servant, do you admit that you screwed up or double down?
Posted by: Iblis || 10/21/2020 11:40 Comments || Top||

#5  In California, per Governor Newsom, the lockdown continues as long as the infection rate is seven per 100,000. So, if since March you met 100,000 people, seven of them would have been infected. But nobody meets that many people. So how many people have you met who have been infected?

People under 65 who get the disease almost always recover within a week or so. But the lockdown has been devastating for the economy and for all kinds of other health problems.

I said it here on Rantburg several months ago that we should protect our vulnerable population but let everybody else live their lives.

Masks, lockdowns and business closings are doing more harm than good. Actually, they are playing into the hands of Democrats who enjoy the control it gives them over the population and the opportunity to blame it all on Donald Trump. Among other highly questionable strategies for dealing with the pandemic, Democrats came up with vote-by-mail which leaves the door wide open for all kinds of fraud. This election will certainly be contested and we'll be lucky if we can keep it from spilling out of the courts and onto the streets. That, of course, is exactly what the Democrats want.

Democrats rejoice in the devastation the lockdowns have caused for an economy that was booming before the pandemic and would, without the shadow of a doubt, have gotten Trump reelected.

It all makes me wonder, quite seriously, about the origins of the virus. It makes me wonder what Democrats knew about it and when they knew it.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/21/2020 14:17 Comments || Top||

#6  "COVID is God's gift to the Left" - Hanoi Jane Fonda
Posted by: Omusock Whesh7410 || 10/21/2020 14:45 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe the Devil's gift.
Posted by: gorb || 10/21/2020 23:43 Comments || Top||

Some thoughts on China and kinetic vs non-kinetic warfare
IMO, it is of some moment that the COVID-19 viral strains spread throughout Asia largely lack ORF8. In contrast, the USA (which does have ORF8 COVID-19 viral strains) has about 20% of the world’s deaths, but we are less than 5% of the world’s population. On its face, this looks suspiciously like a bioweapon attack; especially because of the existence of more virulent viral strains that could be used for targeted attacks against "undesirable" (read "deplorable") individuals — while "regular" COVID provides a smokescreen of sorts for such targeting. In any case, our economic loss has been profound. And, the COVID-19 virus likely has less than natural beginnings (see, e.g., https://t.co/SuouPc7IP8).

It’s interesting (if not completely encouraging), that the ORF8 viral sequence of the COVID-19 viral genome is deleting from the COVID-19 virus over time - as occurred around 2002 with SARS-CoV-1 (just as if that’s an engineered feature). https://doi.org/10.1016/j.meegid.2020.104525. So, even if ORF8 strains were used to target a particular individual, collateral damage would be somewhat limited.

The pernicious ability of COVID-19 for immune evasion is attributable to ORF8. https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.08.25.267328. "[T]he clinical spectrum of this disease can be very heterogenous." https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(20)30232-2. Genetically diverse strains of SARS-CoV-2 (which results in COVID-19) have been observed with no difference in patient viral load (titers) and, yet, with significantly higher replicative fitness and apparent evasion of any robust antibody response. https://doi.org/10.1128/mBio.01610-20.

So (given viral strains with and without ORF8), there is extreme outcome disparity with this disease — leading to an impassible divide in reasonable opinions, which sows disquietude, consistent with CCP China’s unrestricted war concepts. https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA509132. Also of some benefit to the CCP Chinese, planned or not, contracting COVID-19 without the ORF8 not only greatly lessens lethality and increases survivability, but survivors can be expected to obtain at least some immunity from COVID-19 (even ORF8 viral strains).

And, COVID-19 can never be eliminated from the general population with even draconian quarantine-type practices and orders. Medicine can’t stop a virus with such titers, recalcitrant environmental persistence, and transmissibility factors. IMO, inevitably ALL of the population of the "free world" will contract COVID-19 at some point. The data that public health officials should be on the lookout for is the ORF8 COVID-19 virus strain, or the release of a new viral plague such as Bill and Melinda suggested a couple of months ago ("they’ll pay attention this time").

1) What if the COVID-19 virus was engineered (with multiple versions/strains)?

2) & COVID-19 (with the phenomenal transmissibility of all strains of the virus, and overall seemingly off and on lethality when diverse patient outcomes are evaluated) works as designed?

3) & COVID-19 has long-term consequences as it persists and disseminates throughout body systems — going past the blood-brain barrier in many cases — causing lengthy (at least temporary) disability?

4) What’s the end-goal?

Current events will go hot. Up until now, we’ve been weathering a CCP China largely non-kinetic war (with some rioting, just so that we know the situation is serious), primarily by means of quisling fifth-column elements. It’s interesting that (as did the putschist Russian communists, the putschist Nazis, the putschist Chinese communists, etc., etc.) current putschist elements in the USA are using the broken, the disenfranchised, and sociopaths to try to foment revolution.

Reasonable-minded good people on the "Left" and the "Right" share the same common enemy: dark elitist would-be platonic philosopher kings with voracious avarice in their cold hearts, and lacking in any basic human empathy or even shreds of decency.

As an aside, here’s an analogy for COVID-19 based on transmissibility and lethality (i.e., presence or absence of ORF8 in a COVID-19 viral strain): 🐜 Ants in a pit that you fall in:

1) one ant and it bites;
2) millions of biting ants, but you can hop out;
3) #2, but you have major health issues;
4) #2, but you are passed out drunk (i.e., the presence of ORF8 in the viral strain contracted).

Will you die?
Posted by: cingold || 10/21/2020 12:03 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6469 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Thought provoking yet again, cingold. I hope you and your family continue to heal from your encounter with the beast.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2020 15:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks. You can guess what I’ve been doing with my time.

The virus is bad enough as a coronavirus, then you discover the inflammation, thrombosis, bradykinin storm, and then (lately) research identified creation of a porphyria-like condition . . .

This COVID-19 really is a Frankenvirus.
Posted by: cingold || 10/21/2020 16:29 Comments || Top||

#3  a porphyria-like condition

...leading to light sensitivity and therefore reduced vitamin D production? Nasty!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2020 17:20 Comments || Top||

Facebook Chinese Censors
[NY Post] China is one of the most censorious societies on Earth. So what better place for ­Facebook to recruit social media censors?

There are at least half a dozen “Chinese nationals who are working on censorship,” a former Facebook insider told me last week. “So at some point, they [Facebook bosses] thought, ‘Hey, we’re going to get them H-1B visas so they can do this work.’ ”

The insider shared an internal directory of the team that does much of this work. It’s called Hate-Speech Engineering (George Orwell, call your office), and most of its members are based at Facebook’s offices in Seattle. Many have Ph.D.s, and their work is extremely complex, involving machine learning — teaching “computers how to learn and act without being explicitly programmed,” as the techy website DeepAI.org puts it.

When it comes to censorship on social media, that means “teaching” the Facebook code so certain content ends up at the top of your newsfeed, a feat that earns the firm’s software wizards discretionary bonuses, per the ex-insider. It also means making sure other content “shows up dead-last.”

Like, say, a New York Post report on the Biden dynasty’s dealings with Chinese companies.

To illustrate the mechanics, the insider took me as his typical Facebook user: “They take what Sohrab sees, and then they throw the newsfeed list into a machine-learning algorithm and neural networks that determine the ranking of the items.”

Facebook engineers test hundreds of different iterations of the rankings to shape an optimal outcome — and root out what bosses call “borderline content.”

It all makes for perhaps the most chillingly sophisticated censorship mechanism in human history. “What they don’t do is ban a specific pro-Trump hashtag,” says the ex-insider. Instead, “content that is a little too conservative, they will down-rank. You can’t tell it’s censored.”

I won’t share the names of the Facebook employees in question. The point isn’t to spotlight individuals, but to show how foreign nationals from a state that still bans Facebook have their hands on the levers of social media censorship here in America.

The Hate-Speech Engineering team’s staff includes a research scientist based at the Seattle office who earned his master’s degree in computer engineering from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing, according to his LinkedIn profile.

Another member of the team, a software engineer for machine learning based in Seattle, earned his bachelor’s and master’s degrees in computer science from Jilin University in northeast China. Still another, an engineering manager, earned his bachelor’s in computer science at Nanjing University in eastern China.

Another software engineer previously worked for the Communist-backed conglomerate Huawei, as well as the Beijing National Railway & Design Institute of Signal and Communication. I reached out to all six employees; two replied to confirm that they are Chinese nationals but refused to comment further; the rest didn’t reply.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/21/2020 02:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6484 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Failed to properly register as lobbyists of a foreign power?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/21/2020 7:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Hello, deport them, yesterday.
Posted by: Woodrow || 10/21/2020 13:40 Comments || Top||

Home Front: Politix
DISGRACE: Joe Buck and Troy Aikman mock military stadium flyovers in hot-mic video

Last straw. Done with the NFL.
Posted by: Woodrow || 10/21/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6490 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Best Response? From a former F18 pilot, who then flew F16s, and now flies Red Air (OPFOR) for the Air Guard.

Posted by: Theager Borgia1057 || 10/21/2020 0:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Please spread this far an wide: "Mover" is a genuinely one of the "good guys" out there. Pilot, author, and a pretty funny guy. Lets make him famous.
Posted by: Theager Borgia1057 || 10/21/2020 0:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Buck sucks, and Aikman just showed me he is trash. So much for "Cowboy's Royalty". Throw him out of the Ring of Fame in Dallas for all I care for disrespecting the military this way.
Posted by: Theager Borgia1057 || 10/21/2020 0:50 Comments || Top||

#4  More proof the NFL and most sports are corrupted completely.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/21/2020 10:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Way to go Tory; about the only thing the NFL had left to build around and you shit your britches trying to make a funny fart noise for Joi Buck of all people.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/21/2020 11:25 Comments || Top||

#6  I long for the days of Roger Staubach.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/21/2020 14:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Tom Landry would have never tolerated the likes of Troy Aikman on his team.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/21/2020 14:25 Comments || Top||

#8  Was Joe Buck sitting on Troy’s lap or were they just holding hands and staring into each others eyes?
Posted by: Airandee || 10/21/2020 18:46 Comments || Top||

#9  They were doing mutually what Toobin got caught doing.
Posted by: gorb || 10/21/2020 23:45 Comments || Top||

Did the U.S. Government Hide bin Laden In Iran? Alleged Whistleblower Releases Evidence to Make His Claim
The writer appears to be a Q true believer. She started writing about it for American Thinker here. We addressed Mr. Parrot’s claims a week ago here.

Strolling through the Rantburg archives when I possibly should have been doing something more useful, I was reminded that after Al Qaeda was cornered in Tora Bora, Al Qaeda split itself in two. Twenty to thirty members of the management council, led by Al Qaeda #3 Saif Adel, fled to welcoming arms in northern Iran, taking most of Osama bin Laden’s wives and underage children. The Shura consultative council, led by Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri, broke into smaller groups and wandered from safe house to safe house across Pakistan. Some of them were found and arrested along the way, including the big guy himself in Abbottabad. Former #2 Ayman al Zawahiri is still out there, no doubt just as protected by the ISI as ever he was. With so many allies, no American collusion was needed.

Details from our files:
Northern Iran contingent: 20-30 Al Qaeda senior members of the management council including Saif Adel (AlQ #3 and operations chief), Suleiman Abu Ghaith (info chief, spokesmen), AlQ CFO Shaik Said, AlQ personnel director Abu Hafs, Abu Dahak (Yemeni, AlQ ambassador to the Chechen rebels), Mustafa Setmariam Nasar, two of bin Laden's teenage sons — Saad (drone zapped in Pakistan in 2009) and Hamza (killed in AfPak in 2019) — plus three Osama bin Laden wives and about 20 offspring. Iran Al Quds unit supported Ayman al-Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad and OBL’s Al Qaeda starting in about 1990 with significant weapons and logistics support and training. So they were very happy to put their clients under “house arrest” to keep the Americans off their backs. OBL’s youngest wife rejoined him in Pakistan in 2002, the two middle ones wandered back later.

Pakistan contingent: the Shura consultative council included Osama bin Laden and #2 Ayman al-Zawahiri along with Abu Zubaydah (recruitment and training leader arrested in Faisalabad), Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (Balochi, operations commander grabbed in Rawalpindi) and two of his deputies: Ramzi bin al-Shibh and Abu Faraj al Libbi (taken in Karachi and Multan). The ISI carefully has not noticed them or their supporters, even when they were neighbours in the military town of Abbotabad.

OBL’s first wife, Najwa bin Laden, left Afghanistan for her family in Damascus before 9/11, taking her handicapped son, but leaving most of the rest of her eleven children with their father.
[AmericanThinker] Alan Howell Parrot is an unusual character with a flowing gray beard and wizard’s turban who looks like he popped out of a movie. Born in Maine, he followed his fascination with falcons to the Middle East, serving as Chief Falconer to the Shah of Iran and organizing falconry hunts for the royal families of Saudi Arabia. His falconry skills often brought him into Iran, where he says he met Osama bin Laden six times. Parrot claims that both George W. Bush and Barack Obama were fully aware that bin Laden and more than 100 of his top Al Qaeda fighters were sheltering in Iran, along with their families. And he’s now released documents to support his claim, including an audio recording, that he has not denied, of Joe Biden's attorney admitting that Osama bin Laden was being kept in Iran as part of a deal with the U.S government.

For years, Parrot tried to alert the public about his disturbing experience with American intelligence agencies that he says refused to take action against bin Laden’s encampment. "John Brennan and Clinton and Biden outsourced the imprisonment of Al Qaeda leaders to Iran," Parrot recently told Charles Woods, father of fallen Benghazi hero Tyrone Woods. (You can watch their conversation here.) "My team planned a program to go in and get bin Laden in Iran. We were going to catch him while he was falconry hunting."

According to Parrot, U.S. intelligence agencies first ignored, then obstructed, and finally threatened him, warning they would alert the Iranians if he attempted to capture bin Laden. Eventually, Parrot says, Hillary Clinton arranged to move bin Laden to Pakistan for a "trophy kill" to ensure Obama’s reelection. In 2010, Parrott made a movie, "Feathered Cocaine," about his encounters with bin Laden, which was shown at the Tribeca Film Festival. (Here’s the trailer.) In 2011, his lawyer, John Loftus, alleged more details of U.S. intelligence’s complicity in sheltering bin Laden in an article that included this intriguing tidbit: "My friend laughed and said, "Don’t you get it, John? The last thing they want is for anyone to capture bin Laden alive. Think of what he could say on the stand in a public trial." I didn’t believe him at first."

Last week, Parrot’s story started to get traction when Anna Khait, an independent journalist, published, via Twitter, documents and audio that she says Parrot had given her. The documents include a signed non-disclosure agreement between Parrot, Congressman Curt Weldon & Joe Biden's attorney (and fixer) Brian S. Ettinger, on information leading to the capture of Osama bin Laden, letters asking why the intelligence on bin Laden is being ignored, and audio of conversations between Parrot, Weldon, and Ettinger, in which Biden’s attorney acknowledges U.S. government policy is to shelter bin Laden in Iran: "He is being protected by us. We don’t really want to get him...we want him under the radar screen because he basically made a deal with us that he’s not gonna uh...hit us here in the US." Neither Ettinger nor Biden has issued a statement denying it.

Parrot is not the only person making credible claims about bin Laden’s safe haven in Iran. Mike Moore, an intelligence expert and Pulitzer Prize-nominated journalist, came to the same conclusion after interviewing government intelligence operators, informants, and lawmakers. Moore notes that Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during these events and that John Brennan was "neck deep" in arranging the bin Laden deal with the Saudis and Iranians. Mueller and Brennan, of course, were key figures in the coup efforts against President Trump.
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#1  Hillary Clinton arranged to move bin Laden to Pakistan for a "trophy kill" to ensure Obama’s reelection.

That's not the silliest thing I ever read.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/21/2020 12:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Thank you, TW!
Posted by: KBK || 10/21/2020 12:21 Comments || Top||

#3  You are very welcome, KBK. It’s for this kind of thing that Fred built the archives.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/21/2020 22:25 Comments || Top||

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