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-Short Attention Span Theater-
The COVID-19 Power Grab
[Armstrong] We are living not just in interesting times, we are living in UNPRECEDENTED TIMES, which has raised the stakes profoundly toward civil war. You may have been laid off, struggling and hoping your employer will not fold, or you may be working from home and wondering if your employee will not cut cuts and leave you there eliminating offices. Then there is the home confinement which depends on whether or not you live in a Democratic state where they want 1090% lockdown, fines, and/or imprisonment if you walk outside while telling neighbors to report on you as if this were East Germany before the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Then there is the confinement with the family which many find stressful while schools are closed along with day-care-centers and caring for children 100%. The Republican States seems to be following generally just the social-distancing and allowing stores and restaurants to be open following guidelines of limiting the number of customers. Others find their families split forced to facetime, skype, or zoom as elderly relatives are trapped away from loved ones. Then there are those who know someone with COVID-19 or have found their parents go into a hospital for one thing expecting them to die and then they suddenly change the cause of death of COVID-19 out of the clear blue sky causing many to question what is really going on.

While we are all in prison since home confinement if a punishment inflicted by courts, we face the most amazing power grabs in all recorded history thanks to socialism which authorizes the government to pretend to "care" for our well being as long it is profitable. This is one of the greatest rearrangements of power in modern history unfolding before our eyes‐and governments are counting of scaring-the-hell out of people to ensure we’re too overwhelmed to do anything about it.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 08:26 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Definitely worth reading the entire article. The Fauci - Bill Gates connection is something to think about. Fauci more and suspect with each passing day.
Posted by: Clem || 04/05/2020 8:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Second that!!!! Read in detail.
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 04/05/2020 15:44 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Mayor of Georgia coastal town assails governor's 'reckless mandate' to reopen the state's beaches
(CNN) Tybee Island, one of Georgia's most popular vacation destinations, depends on beachgoers to keep the town's economy alive.

But in an effort to curb the coronavirus, the city council voted to close the beaches March 20. The town went so far as to put up barricades and signs to keep beachgoers away.

The town's good intentions were upended on Thursday when Gov. Brian P. Kemp issued a statewide shelter-in-place executive order which supersedes all local orders relating to coronavirus -- and also opened up the state's beaches.

The governor put Tybee Island back in the beach business -- whether the town liked it or not.

Tybee Island Mayor Shirley Sessions fired back on Saturday, issuing a statement saying she and the town council don't want the beaches reopened now.

"As the Pentagon ordered 100,000 body bags to store the corpses of Americans killed by the Coronavirus, Governor Brian Kemp dictated that Georgia beaches must reopen, and declared any decision-makers who refused to follow these orders would face prison and/or fines," Sessions' statement read.

"Tybee City Council and I are devastated by the sudden directives and do not support his decisions. The health of our residents, staff and visitors are being put at risk and we will pursue legal avenues to overturn his reckless mandate."
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 10:20 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Finding a place to park on Tybee during the busy season has been an issue, too.

Coligny Beach Park is just a few miles north and that's pretty nice, but I think that's closed now too.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 04/05/2020 11:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Tacky Tybee!
Posted by: Beavis || 04/05/2020 11:45 Comments || Top||

#3  A few weeks ago we had a rare sunny weekend on the Washington coast. Beachgoers swarmed the beaches in spite of the Coronavirus advisory. Beach towns finally had to close down the hotels and such and literally kick them out.
One mayor, I believe it was Long Beach (Wa), stated that they can't close the state beaches, but they can close the shops and hotels in town. The following monday the useless Governor issued his emergency order.
Perhaps this mayor should do the same. Close the town tight.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/05/2020 13:28 Comments || Top||

#4  It's all a racist plot to destroy the upcoming Myrtle Beach Bike Week. You'll see.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 13:31 Comments || Top||

#5  I’d be more worried about the lost nuke off Tybee than Covid
Posted by: Beavis || 04/05/2020 16:42 Comments || Top||

#6  I dredged a 5 acre pond, scraped and sanded a beach, planted some pampas grass, palm trees and built a lakehouse.

Going to the shore is a 5 minute walk hauling my cooler.
Posted by: Skidmark || 04/05/2020 17:33 Comments || Top||

#7  you're gonna regret the pampas grass
Posted by: Frank G || 04/05/2020 18:01 Comments || Top||

#8  Just burn it annually
Posted by: Beavis || 04/05/2020 18:03 Comments || Top||

#9  last time I went to Tybee, has been 20 years, I wouldnt want to go back.
Posted by: Chris || 04/05/2020 20:48 Comments || Top||

#10  I dredged a 5 acre pond

Seriously? Fantastic.
Posted by: Woodrow || 04/05/2020 21:41 Comments || Top||


Doc Duc C. Vuong explains how the damn thing kills (video)
Basic, layman's terms. Illustrated with sponges and whiteboard. Easy to understand.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 08:40 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


George W. Bush in 2005: 'If we wait for a pandemic to appear, it will be too late to prepare'
[ABC] In the summer of 2005, President George W. Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, when he began flipping through an advanced copy of a new book about the 1918 flu pandemic. He couldn't put it down.

When he returned to Washington, he called his top homeland security adviser into the Oval Office and gave her the galley of historian John M. Barry's "The Great Influenza," which told the chilling tale of the mysterious plague that "would kill more people than the outbreak of any other disease in human history."

"You've got to read this," Fran Townsend remembers the president telling her. "He said, 'Look, this happens every 100 years. We need a national strategy.'"
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 07:29 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, "W" was right in 2005. Let, see, who was president after Bush? Oh yeah, it was Obummer, the darling of left who could do no wrong (sarc).
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/05/2020 8:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Wait a second — since when can Chimpy McBushitler read, let alone read things with big words and no pictures intelligently? And just for fun?!?!

/sarcasm
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/05/2020 19:20 Comments || Top||

#3  We'd be a lot better prepared if Bushy McHalliburton Hitler had actually bothered spending some money and some political capital on making sure the US still have a drug manufacturing capability. His familiy has a _lot_ of money and he was president, with the bully pulpit, for eight years. He never used it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 04/05/2020 20:37 Comments || Top||


The Coronavirus Can't Stop America's Nukes
[Popular Mechanics] As the world fights against the COVID-19 pandemic, nuclear weapons have taken a backseat in most people's minds. But for Global Strike Command (AFGSC)‐the Air Force unit in control of two of the three legs of America’s nuclear triad‐their mission remains top priority.

And it's an unforgiving business. Nuclear deterrence requires extreme levels of readiness among pilots, maintenance crews, and security teams. Adversaries that don’t think the U.S. can respond with conventional bombing strikes or nukes could be emboldened to act aggressively.

But in a War of the Worlds-style twist, humanity’s most lethal weapons could be nullified by an organism that can’t even be seen. It's up to the AFGSC to make sure that never happens.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 02:23 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


#2  Kinda a reverse Invasion from Mars.
Imagine 5 guys, feverish, raging on cold meds, confined underground (tighter than a submarine?).
Posted by: Skidmark || 04/05/2020 17:36 Comments || Top||


MSM Can No Longer Ignore Theory That Wuhan Coronavirus Spread From a Chinese Lab Accident
[LI] A lot of people owe Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AK) an apology because a microbiologist said "in no uncertain terms that the novel coronavirus could have been unleashed due to a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

Cotton raised the possibility of China lying about the origins of the Wuhan coronavirus. He pointed out a lab near the first cases of the virus. He never once claimed China used it a weapon.

The MSM immediately jumped on Cotton instead of holding China’s feet to the fire. Reporters called him irresponsible, a conspiracy theorist, etc.

This Twitter thread contains just a few of the attacks:
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 02:13 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Of course they can. And will.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/05/2020 7:11 Comments || Top||

#2  beat me to it deacon
Posted by: Chris || 04/05/2020 10:46 Comments || Top||

#3  The media is simply responding to their sponsors. Follow the money.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 10:56 Comments || Top||


NY Doc Says We're Treating COVID 19 Wrong, 3009 (video)
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 01:09 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why should I pay attention to one NY doctor? There are lots of docs saying lots of things.
Posted by: AlanC || 04/05/2020 10:17 Comments || Top||

#2  hey doc, did you do a CBC on them? What's their H&H?
Posted by: Texhooey || 04/05/2020 16:35 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
China Plans to Win The Pandemic World War
A very sobering essay by Matt Bracken, hat tip: American Partisan
By accident or on purpose, Pandemic World War One has already begun, even if we don’t fully realize it yet. A few examples to make the point: the American super-carrier Roosevelt is in Guam, with over 100 of its crew infected after a scheduled port visit in Vietnam, and half of its 5,000 member crew under quarantine. Parris Island, the USMC’s east coast boot camp, has many troops infected, with no new recruits inbound, and graduating Marines quarantined on base indefinitely. Our thousand-bed USNS hospital ships Mercy and Comfort are deployed to Los Angeles and New York. U.S. military medical personnel are being sent to American Coronavirus hot spots to augment their civilian medical staffs.

If Pandemic World War One was launched intentionally, then naval vessels and isolated ChiCom special forces bases will become significant force multipliers, because they can be kept scrupulously free of Coronavirus, held back for later use when Western military forces are infected, depleted, and not battle ready. Even if the Covid-19 pandemic was not released on purpose, getting a head start on quarantining key military assets for later use becomes a critical factor, and such total isolation is far more easily achieved within China’s totalitarian dictatorship.

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Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/05/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thank you, Alaska Paul.

First order of business: stop crippling ourselves. This paragraph crystallizes the madness of our 30-year policy that must end, immediately:

... China is only strong today because the West allowed it grow economically many fold over the past forty years, due to our short-sighted stupidity and our lust for ever-cheaper consumer goods, and even for cheaper medical supplies.

Sens. Hawley (R-MO) and Cotton (R-AR) have the right idea. First things first: detach ourselves from China as completely and as rapidly as we possibly can. Do this first and new options will appear -- and all the follow-on steps will be immeasurably easier.
Posted by: Lex || 04/05/2020 0:59 Comments || Top||

#2  We dismiss Brachen's essay and analysis at our own peril.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 1:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Very disturbing language out of the Mao Stricken provinces. Learn Cantoneese.

Curse China.
Posted by: newc || 04/05/2020 1:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Very scary. Except
(a) China doesn't have a fraction of carrying capacity to transport 10 million men.
(b) These 10 or 30 million men are not soldiers.
Training 10 million soldiers and providing officers & noncomps to lead them - let me guess, the author is not a veteran.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 3:12 Comments || Top||

#5  ^"noncomps" ---> "noncoms"
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 3:13 Comments || Top||

#6  ^^Who the f*ck told the author that current day Chinese youths will go along?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 3:14 Comments || Top||

#7  Hooking these de facto colonies on Chinese capital - state-owed and private debt, along with major asset purchases by the Chinese at steep discounts - would be more effective than military invasion. This is more or less what happened to Italy.
Posted by: Lex || 04/05/2020 4:27 Comments || Top||

#8  Where does he get the proof of his conspiracy theories? This is just a man ranting about his fears. "ChiCom"? Seriously? Who talks like that?
Posted by: Chitle Thromose5239 || 04/05/2020 4:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Grom, do you not know who Matt Bracken is?
Posted by: SR-71 || 04/05/2020 5:37 Comments || Top||

#10  ^A former Seal, so what? If he thinks that China can train 10 million men as soldiers - and provide than with officers & noncoms, or transport them overseas, he's an asshole.

p.s. Why don't I ever see Israeli alumni of Sayeret Matkal or Marine Commando (or, for that matter, non Seal USA special forces) macho-ing on Internet?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 6:08 Comments || Top||

#11  Ref #8: Where does he get the proof of his conspiracy theories?

I believe the word you were looking for may have been evidence as opposed to "proof." Evidence of this theory abounds and appears to be growing day-by-day. Again, this is a theory. Whatever the outcome, Brachen's theory will likely be war gamed long after we are all gone.

By the way, theories generate thought, dialogue, white papers, etc. Actual facts have been stumbled upon in such processes.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/05/2020 7:12 Comments || Top||

#12  I've been saying this for a long time.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/05/2020 17:49 Comments || Top||

#13  Boycott their products too.

BOYCOTT CHINA!!!
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/05/2020 17:51 Comments || Top||

#14  BOYCOTT CHINA!!!

Yeah, it's paper plates on the dinner table from here on out.
Posted by: SteveS || 04/05/2020 18:20 Comments || Top||

#15  ^ Well, you'll save money on electricity to run your dishwasher.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/05/2020 18:28 Comments || Top||


Economy
President Trump Is Magnificently Right About Infrastructure
[PJ] - President Trump's proposal to spend $2 trillion to rebuild American infrastructure was as gutsy as it gets, coming on the heels of another $2 trillion in emergency economic aid. The president tweeted, "With interest rates for the United States being at ZERO, this is the time to do our decades long awaited Infrastructure Bill. It should be VERY BIG & BOLD, Two Trillion Dollars, and be focused solely on jobs and rebuilding the once great infrastructure of our Country!"

We can't afford it, but we can't afford not to do it. That's just what I proposed in my last PJ column, "Fix Your Roof While It's Raining." The critical decisions will be about what we call "infrastructure." The president said, "We’re not going to do the Green New Deal and spend 40% of the money on things that people just have fun with."

What are the top priorities? Roads, bridges and tunnels are obvious. Rail is also important. America's oil production surge strained our transport system, rail as well as pipelines, and drastically raised freight costs. Overall, the U.S. producer price index is barely changed over the past ten years, but rail transport costs are up 30%.

We need to move strategically critical industries onshore, above all semiconductor fabrication. The U.S. now depends on foreign fabrication plants for most of its computer chips, and virtually all of its most sophisticated chips. University of Michigan researchers in 2016 demonstrated that booby traps and back doors could be hidden among the 20 billion transistors in a high-end chip. There's no way to find the gizmo after the fact. The only guarantee of security is to fabricate the chips onshore with tight security. Dr. Henry Kressel and I called for this in a November 2016 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. It's all the more urgent now. De-coupling from China should be an urgent priority where national security is concerned. A modern chip fab costs about $20 billion. Five such fabs should do it. So earmark $80-100 billion for that. A complete decoupling of the world's two largest economies is impossible, but we can ring-fence the industries that we most depend on.

Then there's telecommunications infrastructure. China will have its full 5G mobile broadband buildout done in three years, and we are taking our own sweet time about it. We need a multi-pronged program to leapfrog China: federal funding for network construction; expedited regulatory approval for spectrum; and subsidies for basic research to nullify China's head start. Huawei has 50,000 foreign employees, most of them European engineers and scientists, and controls about a third of all 5G patents. Asking our allies to keep Huawei off the premises didn't work. But a Manhattan Project to establish American technological leadership would put fiber, so to speak, in our alliances and wean our errant friends back from dependence on China.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 11:16 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One question: Will this proposal directly or indirectly contribute to the destruction of the Communist Party of China?
Posted by: Matt || 04/05/2020 12:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Preach it, brother.
Posted by: Raj || 04/05/2020 12:58 Comments || Top||

#3  ^CCP is already in its death throes - that's that makes them so dangerous.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB || 04/05/2020 12:59 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Herb McCoy || 04/05/2020 13:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Better make that 3B - you know Nancy and every democrat (and not a few republicans) will add a trillion of pork.

After all abortion on demand is now 'essential'. Why not make it 'Infrastructure' too?
And the destruction of our infrastructure in the name of the 'Green New Deal' will now be 'Infrastructure Improvements'. Yes they are able to think that way.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/05/2020 13:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Amen. More like this, please.
Posted by: Lex || 04/05/2020 13:26 Comments || Top||

#7  I mean, Amen to Brother Spengler/David Goldman.

Better late than never. Giddyup.
Posted by: Lex || 04/05/2020 13:28 Comments || Top||

#8  China should be sued for $6.5 trillion for coronavirus damages says top UK think tank

You can't get money out of them, but you can use the excuse to level tariffs against Chinese products - to neutralize their predatory pricing.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 16:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Check the empty freeways, unladen ferries, unoccupied railroad terminals, empty parking garages...Ass-u-meing everything will get to the steady state is perhaps in error.

Spend the $2T on lighting the dark fiber infostructure.
Posted by: Skidmark || 04/05/2020 17:30 Comments || Top||

#10  There are a number of technologies sold to China (Stepper Scanners used to make computer chips for example) and China sells tech to the west. WE should start cutting them off from the technology world. Return them to little rubber junk products but move everything else somewhere else.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/05/2020 23:00 Comments || Top||


Italy's Virus Shutdown Came Too Late. What Happens Now?
h/t Instapundit
[NYT] - Italy underestimated the outbreak, then ordered a national lockdown to contain it. A month later, officials warn it is still too soon to reopen.

...Some scientists say that Italian officials did not act decisively to stop the virus early on, underestimating its danger and how quickly it spreads. "We realized the virus was here too late," said Roberto Burioni, one of Italy’s leading virologists. "It was already spreading."

Any decision to let up now and ease restrictions on movement, public health officials warned, would risk a new wave of infections. "We haven’t reached the peak, and we haven’t passed it," Silvio Brusaferro, the head of Italy’s national health institute, said at a recent news conference.

...Recognizing the continuing severity of the crisis, Italy extended its lockdown to at least mid-April, with most government and public health officials recommending that the measures remain in place even longer.

"If we started to loosen the measures, all our efforts made so far would have been in vain," Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said at a news conference on Wednesday. "We would pay a very high price. We ask everyone to continue to respect the measures."

That message may be tough to hear for the 60 million who have spent the past month confined to their homes and whose patience is wearing thin. But public health experts stress that safely releasing Italy from lockdown will require not only more certainty that the spread of infection has slowed considerably, but also assurances that the country can prevent another immediate outbreak.
The choice is not between damage to economy vs. lives. There is no choice - given a severe enough outbreak people who today produce and transport food, keep water, gas, electricity, and internet running will stay at home. And then we all die.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 10:20 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The struggle with the pandemic in italy wil have to be fought the old fashioned way. Quarantine in place and take the casualties. Watch the curve and hope you live to see the right side.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/05/2020 12:22 Comments || Top||

#2  So is everybody gonna get it? It's so contagious that lockdown won't kill it, just delay it? But 80% have mild to no symptoms? I thought it was "the Deadly Coronavirus". 5% might require hospitalization? Am I missing something, or are a lot of folks hyperventilating? Can office workers go back to work when all the old people are dead?
And I am one of those 'old people'.
Posted by: Bobby || 04/05/2020 15:32 Comments || Top||

#3  But 80% have mild to no symptoms?

You might want to look here,
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 15:42 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Nobody Knows How to Politicize a Pandemic Like Nancy Pelosi.
[HumanEvents.com] On Wednesday, Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden (who, one must remember, holds no elected office at the moment) promised that any further coronavirus legislation might just contain something of "my green deal." It’s not clear if he was referring to some sort of environmental plan‐or how he expects to craft legislation from his basement in Delaware‐but even Sleepy Joe seems to think that a global pandemic signals a time for pork-barrel politics.

None among the Democrats has embraced this ethos more than House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, however. As the coronavirus crisis rages on around us, Pelosi is still looking for creative ways to spend your tax dollars.

After failing to stuff the $2.2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package with a bevy of her social justice pet projects, Pelosi had the gall to announce that Democrats had made the bill about "workers first."

"It went from a corporate first proposal that the Republicans put forth in the Senate to a workers first‐Democratic workers first‐legislation," said Pelosi, at one of her increasingly bizarre news conferences where the grand dame of Congress appears to be crumbling under the weight of her own rhetoric. "The bill that was passed in the Senate last night [Wednesday] and that we will take up tomorrow [Friday] is about mitigation: mitigation for all the loss that we have in our economy while still addressing the emergency health needs that we have in our country."

What the Speaker neglected to mention, however, was how her bill would have forced any airline receiving government bailout money to cut their carbon footprint in half and any business to implement a "diversity plan." Oh, and she made sure the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts received a handsome handout (note: after they grabbed the $25 million in cash, the management promptly started laying-off musicians).

Now, Pelosi is moving on to "phase four" of the Democrats’ coronavirus rescue package: save the (Democratic) millionaires.
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#2  Is there not some legal way to remove this woman from office along with other morons such as Schumer, Schiff, Nadler? (O.K. wishful thinking on my part this Palm Sunday morning)
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/05/2020 8:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Why does it have to be a "legal: way?
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 04/05/2020 15:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes, JohnQC. It's called an election. Trouble is, there are an awful lot of idiots in San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York City.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 04/05/2020 18:36 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Tablighi Jamaat - its other, evil side
[newindianexpress] Except intelligence officials, national security experts and the wary among police officials, not many Indians would have heard of the name Tablighi Jamaat [TJ] before the explosive Nizamuddin coronavirus episode gave it the publicity it studiously avoided. On the face of it, TJ’s six principles suggest Islamic piety in its extreme. But that is merely its cosmetic exterior, inviting the innocent and idealistic young Muslims into an ideological line that ultimately turns them as terrorists. The less known and dangerous side of the century-old TJ began unfolding the world over since 2001, but not in India.

NURSERY AND GATEWAY TO TERROR
“TJ is another system driver and integral element of Islamist Violent Non-State Actors’ internal dynamics; in many cases it has acted as nursery for indoctrinating Islamist terrorists,” writes Dr Farhan Zahid, a Pakistani counter-terrorism and security expert, in his analysis titled “Tablighi Jamaat and its links with terrorism” [Foreign Analysis March 2015 Centre Francais de Reserche Sur le Renseignement]. Dr Farhan says, TJ “in a way plays the role of recruiter and sympathiser [for terrorism]. TJ’s congregation allows radical elements worldwide to meet and discuss violent activities and provide them with the best opportunity to coordinate”. Adding “many of its followers have dual and overlapping membership with jihadist groups”, Dr Farhan cites references and says “TJ has now been considered as a ‘gateway to terrorism’.

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Posted by: John Frum || 04/05/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Tablighi Jamaat

#1  From January to March, almost 8500 stayed in the Tablighi Jamaat Delhi mosque complex, sometimes 2000 at a time. Two thousand men eating from communal plates with their hands, with the plates being reused for the next group without washing. Two thousand men using a pool of water for wudu. Washing their feet, hands, arms, noses, mouths in the same pool of water with 2000 other men.
Posted by: John Frum || 04/05/2020 10:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Some details, from a technical perspective.

It was born in Mewat, Haryana. The British said of the Meo muslims that they are uncivilizable, vile criminals - a criminal community worthy only of culling, for the security of the region. True, the british thought that about a lot of people back then, but in this case I'd agree.

The doctrines of the deoband it was born from were refined to sport an inherent taqiya, that they will be apolitical and shall not interfere in politics and matters of public import, like law. Some preachers went the extent of saying muslims must support the laws of the land and honour the kings.
But that was back when 'the king' was someone who could stopper a cannon's mouth with your arse and fire it, on a whim.


The TJ is rightly banned in Russia, central Asian States like Uzbekistan, and even in Soddy Arabia, primarily because it is a covertly criminal organization. Its budgetary needs are minuscule compared to other islamist ancillaries. It's funded by criminals in the global muslim community seeking to assuage their guilts; and provides training and teaching syllabi to other deobandi schools that are gateways into terrorism.

Overtly simple, just a bunch of monastic, ascetic looking men talking about 'the old ways', etc. But they create what psychologists would call an 'archetype dissonance' within the so-inclined individual and introduce a means to 'set things right' to minds they drive to near insanity with fake narratives and dogma. One can only understand their method of brainwash by closely witnessing a gestalt of their doctrines playing out on a sub-group - their attitudes, mating habits and diets changing over time. It is ... interesting. The actual influence it exerts is subtle but very strong. And legally unassailable. The Jamaát does not actively train terrorists or teach how to kill. It doesn't even preach about jihad or war. It only creates a worldview where killing the infidel becomes an imperative for the subject. A subject attends a jamaatis lecture for a week, then compulsively seeks training in one of the Markaz. These are not officially Tablighi. The Tablighi markaz are only for preachers to become brainwashers. The Markaz connects the subject to their extremist cousins who once were Jamaát students too, and they vet and recruit the subject. The Jamaát can claim it does nothing but point the individual to holy teachings, and any inferences he may draw from them is his own fault.

Our constitutional democracies, their compartmentalized enforcement arms, and the eunuch humanists posing as saints sitting in high offices today cannot begin to comprehend the power of loosely structured, decentralized entities like this. Of course, you don't have to understand something to kill it. Unfortunately, they can't do that either, because they've adopted constitutions that make mice out of men.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 04/05/2020 16:22 Comments || Top||

#3  But that was back when 'the king' was someone who could stopper a cannon's mouth with your arse and fire it, on a whim.

What about sewing them in pig skins?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 16:26 Comments || Top||

#4  ^ I don't think we ever had hogs that big in Indian fauna; I always thought that was invented to cause them to hate the brits more. Maybe they sewed a lot of skins for it, sounds like a lot of elbow grease to waste on pure hate. Of course it may be true.

But the arse in the cannon thingy is definitely true. Happened to several rebel warlords and 'princes'.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 04/05/2020 16:36 Comments || Top||

#5  ^I know, I like Macdonald Frazer.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 16:44 Comments || Top||

#6  ^ Eh ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 04/05/2020 16:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Flashman in the Great Game
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 16:55 Comments || Top||

#8  ^ One of GM Fraser's Flashman books (Flashman in the Great Game, I think) ends with our hero strapped to a cannon and escaping by the narrowest of chances.
Posted by: Matt || 04/05/2020 16:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Not chance - Flash Harry's talent!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/05/2020 16:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Oh. Rantburg often reminds me what an acutely uncultivated schlemiel I am.

I think I remember it being recommended by the academy librarian, the one who tried but failed to make me pick anything but Clive Barker or Graham Masterton. ☺
Posted by: Dron66046 || 04/05/2020 17:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Dron, I had no idea until today that there was something called the Tablighi Jamaat. The best recommendation I can give you about Flashman is that Flashman is the least politically correct character in all of literature. Fraser himself was a Scot who fought the Japanese in Burma.
Posted by: Matt || 04/05/2020 17:41 Comments || Top||

#12  I had no idea until today that there was something called the Tablighi Jamaat.

Believe me, I wish I could un-know it somehow ☺.

Downloaded 'Royal Flash', will read it as soon as I'm done writing my own short story for a collection.

Posted by: Dron66046 || 04/05/2020 18:25 Comments || Top||



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