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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Armed Robber Shot by Clerk – Robber's Family Furious
[Victory Girls] An armed robber brandished and pointed a gun at several people, demanding cash. An armed clerk shot and killed him. Normally, this kind of story would get a paragraph or two on a back page of the local news section of a newspaper. These aren’t normal times.

Skipping down to...

Tribal Values v Bourgeois values
well, somebody needs a pistol-whipping to reality
The response on social media, whether in the Twitter thread above or on Facebook appears overwhelming shocked at sister’s response. Some support the clerk’s actions of defense of himself and others. Some question the lack of "proper upbringing" of the siblings. They are all close, but aren’t going deep enough on what is happening here. And that is the contemporary American cultural shift away from what may be called bourgeois values to factional, tribal ones.

Sister was clear. Her brother, regardless of his behavior, was not to be held to any standard outside of what her tribe holds. The rules that exist for all others within the larger society don’t exist for them. He was committing armed robbery? OH WELL.

The Left has spent the better part of the last 50-100 years chipping away at the melting pot logos of American culture. We don’t just witness it in fits such as these wherein people are not to be treated or judged individually by objective standards of behavior. We actually witness the attempts to destroy any person who dares to promote what used to be normative values. Professor Amy Wax wrote:
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 06:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336080 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We actually witness the attempts to destroy any person who dares to promote what used to be normative values. Professor Amy Wax wrote:

For decades now, and nearly every day in fact. Perhaps there is some underlying message? Hat tip to Professor Wax.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 6:53 Comments || Top||

#2  It is the age of the shameless.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 7:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Your Tribe values will change if enough armed robbers are shot and killed.
Posted by: Airandee || 10/13/2019 7:21 Comments || Top||

#4  #3. We can only hope
Posted by: Uleck Spererong9442 || 10/13/2019 7:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Had the same thing happen over a decade ago at a doughnut shop in the big city here. Family showed up days later screaming and hollering. It's tough when you are the 4th minority in the area to get as much attention as elsewhere where you are the first.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/13/2019 8:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Zman talks about the "normies" and how they just keep telling themselves events like this and the mindset it exposes are outliers. But they are not and the so-called normies better wake up. Start (Yes, lots of stuff at Unz Review is reprehensible, but that's where this guy is) here.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 8:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Decline and Fall.
Posted by: Lex || 10/13/2019 10:47 Comments || Top||

#8  But decline and fall of what? It could end up being gangsta nation that falls. That would be fun.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 11:38 Comments || Top||

#9  The guy was just a misunderstood yout trying to redistribute the income. Probably an Antifa yout caught up in radical politics.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/13/2019 11:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Tar? Feathers? Rail?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 13:00 Comments || Top||

#11  Better yet, audit. If momma and grammar can't account for their income it was probably gotten by illegal means. Jail em.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 13:20 Comments || Top||

#12  Autosmell is really irking me today. May its inventor roast in piss...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 13:21 Comments || Top||

Book Review: 'The Boy Crisis' - Dr. Warren Farrell and Dr. John Gray
[PJ] I’m not going to lie. When I first picked up The Boy Crisis, by Dr. Warren Farrell and Dr. John Gray, I read the foreword to get a sense of the authors and their ideas -- and then after looking at the table of contents, I dove straight for the section on Boys Who Hurt, Hurt Us.

Farrell has been researching multiple dimensions of men, women, boys and girls since the 1970s. His 2001 book, Father and Child Reunion: How to Bring the Dads We Need to the Children We Love is now a classic in fatherhood research. His collaborator on this book, Dr. John Gray, wrote Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, one of if not the most famous books on male-female relationships and understanding.

The Boys Who Hurt, Hurt Us section of The Boy Crisis deals with why some boys do extreme, taboo, and incredibly violent things. Why a very small number of boys grow up in seemingly normal circumstances, in a suburban neighborhood with a perfect green lawn, but become mass shooters. Our country has been plagued by these boys who hurt others lately, and while their horrific acts remain statistical anomalies and overall violent crime is decreasing, and while the United States does not lead the world in mass shootings, these terrible acts rightly disturb us and they also distort our public discourse. Even more importantly, they leave far too many dead in their wake and shatter the lives of survivors.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 02:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336071 views] Top|| File under:

-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Californians Learning That Solar Panels Don't Work in Blackouts
[Bloomberg] Californians have embraced rooftop solar panels more than anyone in the U.S., but many are learning the hard way the systems won’t keep the lights on during blackouts.

That’s because most panels are designed to supply power to the grid -- not directly to houses. During the heat of the day, solar systems can crank out more juice than a home can handle. Conversely, they don’t produce power at all at night.

So systems are tied into the grid, and the vast majority aren’t working this week as PG&E Corp. cuts power to much of Northern California to prevent wildfires.

The only way for most solar panels to work during a blackout is pairing them with batteries. That market is just starting to take off. Sunrun Inc., the largest U.S. rooftop solar company, said hundreds of its customers are making it through the blackouts with batteries.

"It’s the perfect combination for getting through these shutdowns," Sunrun Chairman Ed Fenster said in an interview. He expects battery sales to boom in the wake of the outages.

And no, trying to run appliances off the power in a Tesla Inc. electric car won’t work, at least without special equipment.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 03:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336087 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, how long until rumors of cannibalism?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 3:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Meanwhile PG&E employees enjoy their aircons and coffee makers ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 4:33 Comments || Top||

#3  So, let me get this straight: In CA you are now required to have solar panels on your house; however, the electricity from those panels goes to the power grid, not your house so you don't have direct access to the power YOUR solar panels are producing; the panels YOU paid for. Government is so great!!
Posted by: Alistaire Untervehr8459 || 10/13/2019 8:23 Comments || Top||

#4  I call bull on this. Had solar power in the Soviet of Hawai'i. If the grid went down, your solar was dead BUT you flipped a switch disconnecting yourself from the grid and your solar power went to an outlet on the inverted you could access. Worked fine if you had enough panels to generate the juice for a fridge and an internet connection. Unless the great state of Calizuela mandated that you couldn't have a disconnect, this is just lack of foresight or cheapness on the part of the homeowner.
Posted by: Mercutio || 10/13/2019 9:47 Comments || Top||

#5  If you can shell out for a $30k solar battery shack it should be possible, but I suspect you'll be visited by all sorts of toads inspecting this and that and finally suing you for endangering yourself. And that would be only for property owners. Apartment dwellers may not be allowed a battery or an off-grid solution at all. That's how the bureaucrat mind works.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 10:04 Comments || Top||

#6  #4 is correct - you disconnect from the grid just as if you had a gas-powered generator (which you should have for night)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2019 10:19 Comments || Top||

#7  A transfer switch is a standard part of a home generator installation. Whether it's required I don't know. Common sense says if there isn't one, the only way the utility can be sure no part of the grid is energized is to work at night or require transfer switches where crews can get at them.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 10:24 Comments || Top||

#8  Dron__ see #4 - no batteries required. Batteries only required for storage - to get you thru the night and that's why the gods invented gas generators.
Posted by: Mercutio || 10/13/2019 13:24 Comments || Top||

#9  Yes, Mercution, I think the real moral of the story is gasoline, diesel or propane generators. Those lithium ion batteries make me nervous...too many stories about them erupting in flames. Supposedly, if you manage them properly, that won't happen. But if you don't...

Nothing wrong with having solar panels to lower your electricity bills, though. If our politicians were serious about this global warming nonsense, which I don't believe they are, they'd mandate solar panels on all new construction all across the nation. It'd be written into the building codes, just like plumbing, phone service, cable and electricity from the grid. But then, their developer buddies would bitch and moan about increased construction costs so it'll never happen.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/13/2019 15:20 Comments || Top||

#10  If a 12 minute power interruption was enough to be fatal then the original installers were negligent because "[excrement] Happens!"
Posted by: magpie || 10/13/2019 18:19 Comments || Top||

#11  they'd mandate solar panels on all new construction all across the nation.

Solar is fine in the sunny southern parts of the country, but wasted where it’s often cloudy or snow covered — the sun isn’t powering anything through a foot of snow — or has lots of tall trees casting shadows on the array a significant part of the day. There is no one answer to such problems.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2019 21:33 Comments || Top||

What the Democrats fear most
h/t Instapundit
[Powerline] What the Democrats fear most is happening: President Trump and his negotiating team are reaching wide-ranging agreements with China that will be a huge boon to the United States.
The heathen Chinese Communists have figured out that he's gonna get reelected
In an Oval Office press conference yesterday, President Trump and China’s Vice Premier announced a Phase 1 set of agreements that will be documented over the next several weeks. The video of the press conference is embedded below; Trump’s performance was masterful. His many years of experience as a negotiator shine through.

The Phase 1 agreement covers several important topics, including agricultural sales. China has agreed to ramp up its purchases of agricultural products to $40-$50 billion‐three times the previous peak‐over the next two years. Trump joked that farmers will need to buy more land and work overtime. That means, I think, that Democrats can say goodbye to hopes that tariffs would be the issue that could win votes in rural America.

The agreement also opens up China’s financial services markets to American companies, covers currency manipulation, and addresses some aspects of intellectual property and technology transfer agreements. Phase 2 negotiations will begin immediately.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 02:19 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336067 views] Top|| File under:

#1  DT may have just won the midwest back with that $50B argicultural buy the Chicoms are promising.
Posted by: Mercutio || 10/13/2019 9:49 Comments || Top||

#2  This will be difficult to supply. Millions of acres ruined due to wet weather and early winter. Prices here will go up. Global warming is not going to happen. I wish it would so at least we could grow crops. No crops in cold, period.Map https://weather.com/maps/current-wind-chill
Posted by: Dale || 10/13/2019 9:57 Comments || Top||

#3  No crops in cold, period.

Precisely. Though that means the sales price will be bid up even higher for those farmers who do have anything to sell, and the rest will feel the potential for greater prosperity.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2019 12:01 Comments || Top||

The European Union Commission’s war against Israel
[Jpost] According to the Europe
...the land mass occupying the space between the English Channel and the Urals, also known as Moslem Lebensraum...
an Union Commission’s website, during the last decade the EUC has given over two billion euros to Paleostinians in the "West Bank" and the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamaswith about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
Strip. This does not include extra payments for health, welfare and education, and legal services to assist claims against Israel. Additionally, the EUC is funding illegal Arab building in Area C, which is under Israeli control via the authority of the IDF and its civilian branch, COGAT. This includes assistance to Paleostinian Authority residents who infiltrate into Area C and build illegal homes in Arab villages.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336082 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Facilitating Muslim/African "emigration" to Europe. Working to disfranchise the deplorables in USA. Trying to destroy the Jewish state. Promoting enviro-hysterics. It's all part and parcel of the same worldview.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 2:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Allowing the Palestinians to return would change the ethnic makeup of Israelis. Israel is an ethno-state and politicians are very clear about this. They tried ethno-states in Europe, it didn't work out well for them. That's why they imported millions of Islamic immigrants. If it's good for Europe it's good for Israel.
Posted by: Glotch Ebbusons2137 || 10/13/2019 3:09 Comments || Top||

#3  The Eww must not prosper as long as they maintain any affinity with moslems.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 4:18 Comments || Top||

#4  "The Eww must will not prosper as long as they maintain any affinity with moslems.
Posted by: Dron6604"


Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 10/13/2019 9:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh... yes.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 10:07 Comments || Top||

#6  EU delenda est!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 13:02 Comments || Top||

Home Front: Politix
‘Whistleblower' Attorney Was Informant who Scuttled Trump's Nominee for CIA Watchdog
Classic Soviet style disinformation
[Breitbart] Andrew Bakaj, the attorney representing the so-called whistleblower at the center of the impeachment movement targeting President Donald Trump, previously was a whistleblower witness whose public allegations scuttled the confirmation of the Trump administration’s nominee for CIA inspector general.

Bakaj’s original complaint against Trump’s nominee was filed with the office of the Inspector General for the U.S. Intelligence Community. The IG at the time was Chuck McCullough, who is currently working at Bakaj’s three attorney law firm representing the so-called whistleblower.

Like Bakaj, the so-called whistleblower against Trump also filed his "Disclosure of Urgent Concern form" with the IG for the intelligence community, albeit with the new IG, Michael Atkinson.

Bakaj founded the Compass Rose Legal Group, which is representing the central so-called whistleblower on the matter of Trump’s phone call with the Ukrainian president. Bakaj confirmed that his law firm is also representing "multiple whistleblowers in connection to the underlying August 12, 2019, disclosure to the Intelligence Community Inspector General."
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Posted by: 3dc || 10/13/2019 3:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Bakaj’s original complaint against Trump’s nominee was filed with the office of the Inspector General for the U.S. Intelligence Community. The IG at the time was Chuck McCullough, who is currently working at Bakaj’s three attorney law firm representing the so-called whistleblower.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 3:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Goes without saying I suppose:

Rose Law Firm members have historically been active in politics and civic affairs....
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 3:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Shitshow, Part 129.

Banana republic.
Posted by: Lex || 10/13/2019 10:35 Comments || Top||

#5  I thought the "deep State" was just B.S. conspiracy mongering. But after seeing all this in the intelligence community, Congress, State Department, and FBI, as well as the press...

Even the most partisan person, if rational, can see there is no denying the corruption and conspiracy to create a coup to oust a duly elected President, and protect the corrupt people and subverted powers wormed into our national government.
Posted by: Marilyn Tojo7566 || 10/13/2019 12:06 Comments || Top||

Home Front: Culture Wars
Wait… Now We're Talking About Decriminalizing Intentional HIV Transmission?
[Hot Air] This is another item that dropped during CNN’s disastrous LGBTQ town hall on Thursday night, but I didn’t notice it until yesterday evening. There were plenty of painful moments, including when Joe Biden started rambling on about "round-the-clock sex at gay bathhouses in San Francisco." But in the midst of all that, CNN’s Anderson Cooper got some of the candidates to weigh in on an actual policy issue that is somehow being considered by Democrats.

Should the intentional withholding of a persons HIV positive status from a prospective sexual partner be decriminalized? Shockingly, several of the candidates agreed with that idea. This, as Brad Palumbo at the Washington Examiner explains, isn’t just bad policy. It’s insanity.

Should it be a crime to knowingly expose someone to HIV without disclosing it?

Most sane people would say yes. But a widely panned Vox article published this week said that state laws making it a crime to not disclose your HIV status "have only increased stigma and abuse." And apparently, many 2020 Democrats agree with this ludicrous, insane point of view.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 03:37 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336075 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Number of people killed by guns since 1980? Number of people killed by HIV since 1980? And they want to ban the latter but not the former?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/13/2019 8:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, some people are talking about it. I don't include myself in the headlines Herb-all "We."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 8:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Remember, Red Cross was not keen on screening blood donors either. A typical example of Star Chamber of Communism / Bidness Rountable "bad for business" mindset...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 8:37 Comments || Top||

#4  AIDS is a politically correct disease?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 9:06 Comments || Top||

#5  AIDS has always been a politically correct disease.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/13/2019 9:23 Comments || Top||

#6  AIDS is a politically correct disease?

Oh, yes. About the only way to get it besides gay sex is sharing needles (drug addicts) getting it from a promiscuous sex partner, tainted blood transfusion or medical misadventure (see HIV positive dentist who infected many patients. See incorrectly sterilized surgical instruments.) Getting HIV through no fault of your own is considered to be in bad taste by the politically correct as it puts the problem in focus.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 9:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Yea, but once they tried to cure it.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 9:28 Comments || Top||

#8  Quarantine would wipe it out quickly. Not politically correct.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 9:32 Comments || Top||

#9  Quarantine would wipe it out quickly. Not politically correct.

Wouldn't be too sure about this
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 9:39 Comments || Top||

#10  Interesting article. OTOH, heard anything about "prions" lately? I didn't think so...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 9:48 Comments || Top||

#11  CA has already done this..so, you know who to thank
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/13/2019 10:25 Comments || Top||

#12  The difference with prions is that is true. And the reason I know that MM, because I did my doctorate/post in theoretical immunology in 1990es at the peak of HIV.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 12:47 Comments || Top||

#13  So. You are saying everything you learned in an academic setting about something so politically freighter is true? Hoooookaaaaay...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 13:12 Comments || Top||

#14  Everything I learned by reading and thinking is true.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 13:57 Comments || Top||

#15  doctorate/post in theoretical immunology in 1990es at the peak of HIV.

I thought I recalled you were a physicist, g(r)omgoru, who worked at one point at Los Alamos. Israeli scientists do get around — my father started in herbicides and pesticides with a double BS in biology and physics and a PhD in organic chemistry, then ended up in oncology research.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2019 14:54 Comments || Top||

#16  I thought I recalled you were a physicist, g(r)omgoru

Never, I hate them more than I hate Chinese anime.
I've B.A. in life sciences, M.Sc. in Biochemistry, and Ph.D. in Applied Math.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 14:59 Comments || Top||

#17  Well, avoiding the needles and gay sex is easy (for me anyway) I've had 4 dentists and one endodontist in 60 years, so that's straight up luck. No transfusions (luck also) Did you know dentists are second behind chemist's in professional suicide statistics?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 15:20 Comments || Top||

#18  I've B.A. in life sciences, M.Sc. in Biochemistry, and Ph.D. in Applied Math.
Posted by g(r)omgoru

Your bona fides are indeed impressive. Thanks for applying to the Burg. Unfortunately the position we are seeking to fill is for a junior analyst.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 16:14 Comments || Top||

#19  The ad was for chief of secret police.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 16:16 Comments || Top||

#20  That position is no longer available.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 16:19 Comments || Top||

#21  Heh... you're overqualified for that. Unless you took 5 years in the M.Sc and the Ph.d is honorary.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 16:20 Comments || Top||

#22  Never mind credentialism is 99% of the nation's problems.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 16:27 Comments || Top||

#23  I've known people with JDs who didn't practice law and people with MDs who didn't practice medicine. Interesting people doing interesting things. Mostly under the radar.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 16:34 Comments || Top||

#24  Yea, so?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 16:35 Comments || Top||

#25  Your Honor, the witness has just said he believes everything he has ever read or thought. (Prosecutor looks toward jury and shrugs, looks back at the judge.) No more questions. Defense attorney facepalms and mutters "Oh, shit..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 16:47 Comments || Top||

#26  No I said that I believe that I read and thought about. There's a minor difference - obvious to people who think.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 16:52 Comments || Top||

#27  Well, I've a BS in Civil Engineering/Minor in Radiation Physics, and a professional license to kill in Civil. My political opinion is based on my ability to think and my credibility is based on none of my structures having killed anybody...yet

Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2019 17:03 Comments || Top||

#28  Talking to me? All I did is explain to TW why she shouldn't call me a physicist.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 17:11 Comments || Top||

#29  Give Herb this: He's never bored us with his credentials.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:24 Comments || Top||

#30  Mr. Credentialed does not understand how legal arguments work.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:25 Comments || Top||

#31  Now you've summoned him.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 17:25 Comments || Top||

#32  Or give a damn.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 17:26 Comments || Top||

#33  I only have a BA in English. I've bottled Coca Cola, written for newspapers, written software, systems engineered (uncredentialed but paid) white water canoed and gunsmithed. Maybe be a Federal District Court juror soon (I meet their qualifications)
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:32 Comments || Top||

#34  And did I ever said anything that leads you to believe that I despise/dismiss this?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 17:34 Comments || Top||

#35  The belive what you read and think thing is abrasive. I believe less and less as I get older. As for belief, I always believe I might not have to get out of bed to pee in the middle of the night but I already know I'm wrong. Consider a bit of honesty and humility if you will.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:45 Comments || Top||

#36  Buncha shnobs. Ejication... bah ! Who needshh it ? Everyone learnin' to be a good handbasket weaver ! For the world to... go in it... eh ? Heh hehe hehh heeh cough ... hic ehhuhh !

Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 17:45 Comments || Top||

#37  As for what I read, bullshit has never been in better supply.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:47 Comments || Top||

#38  Life is a learning process, D. Calling it education is hoity toity.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:48 Comments || Top||

#39  The [to?] belive what you read and think thing is abrasive.

Really? How do you learn things - through dreams sent by the Gods?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 17:50 Comments || Top||

#40  The learning process o' life. Yupp ! Now that I can identify wth.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 17:50 Comments || Top||

#41  through dreams sent by the Gods

Oy ! I do ! I mean... I won't for some time now, on account I got sloshed t'night.Heee hee hee

But I do. Him's a rather effective teacher I'll tell ya !
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 17:54 Comments || Top||

#42  Reading is breathing for the brain. Make your stupid cracks about visions. I read most of the day every day. Even out in the Gulf Stream in a fighting chair trying to catch swordfish for dinner. Visions. You are an arrogant piece of work you are.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:54 Comments || Top||

#43  If you read Mein Kampf would you believe it? If you read Das Kapital would you believe it? I won't as about the holy krayon because I have no trouble believing you would believe it.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 17:59 Comments || Top||

#44  Visions and dreams are different though. The dream is subjectively encoded. But it's a nifty thing to have. Also, visions require a dedicated, godly life.

Real godly.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 18:00 Comments || Top||

#45  Or peyote. That works too.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:02 Comments || Top||

#46  Well, since you insist on twisting everything I say. And since I'm not responsible for your inferiority complex - massively revealed by your attacks, all I can say bless your heart.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 18:02 Comments || Top||

#47  You can't attack me and I definitely don't feel inferior. So there's that.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:04 Comments || Top||

#48  Thing is, G, I agree with you so much of the time. Trying to gouge my eyes out with your sheepskins or cherry picking a scientific article you happen to agree with and selling it as gospel is beneath you. I know you are better than that and I really only know your comments here which are not even a shadow of you.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:16 Comments || Top||

#49  I was giving him the mix, but he said 'Hold the cranberry ♪', and there you go.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 18:20 Comments || Top||

#50  Cranberry and vodka or cranberry and ever clear?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:25 Comments || Top||

#51  Just popping up to fix a monitory glare on anyone thinking of challenging me for "Least Credentialed Burger" (if indeed I even are one).
Posted by: Sneager Snore7828 || 10/13/2019 18:28 Comments || Top||

#52  Vodka, moy drug. Vodka. Whassa man gonna do with everclear ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 18:28 Comments || Top||

#53  Greta Thunderthighs has Assburgers
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:29 Comments || Top||

#54  Drove a jeep on everclear once. Not cheap but better than walking.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:31 Comments || Top||

#55  Hmmm... never occurred to me.

Using alcohol in a jeep, not the ...thighs.

Must have been a happy jeep after that.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 18:34 Comments || Top||

#56  WTF happened in this thread?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2019 18:34 Comments || Top||

#57  This is what happens when you let the Turks invade people. hee hee hee heeheehee...
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 18:36 Comments || Top||

#58  Just a little party, Frank. Honestly, we'll clean up. [giggle]
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 18:37 Comments || Top||

#59  I told g I don't want to fight anymore and happy hour broke out.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:38 Comments || Top||

#60  This is 500% better than what typically happens in an AOSHQ thread
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:41 Comments || Top||

#61  #48 And I agree with you, MM. I didn't cherrypick an article. Just google "Asymptomatic, virus, wiki". Everybody (with my background) knows that viruses have asymptomatic carriers.
More importantly, the reason I had it on tip of my tongue because I remembered a girl (well a woman) I used to date in Santa Fe. She once asked me to explain what I'm doing. When we were talking I mentioned asymptomatic HIV carriers. She was shocked, and asked if I believe myself to be one. So when the subject arose here, I was hit with that memory. I was back there and I was that postdoc. Now I'll probably won't sleep half the night because I can't remember her name.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 18:43 Comments || Top||

#62  Only asymptomatic I know of is Magic Johnson. Obviously he can't be the only one.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:45 Comments || Top||

#63  Hey, G, sorry for the tiff. I respect you more than I did when I started mouthing off.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:46 Comments || Top||

#64  Oh, nice ! Mention that on a date, grom. ☺
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 18:47 Comments || Top||

#65  Been tested 3 times to satisfy partners. Never mind promiscuous people or needle sharers make the tests meaningless
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:51 Comments || Top||

#66  G, I have always told myself, if I meet someone three times and can't remember their name, that's my brain telling me I don't want to know them.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:54 Comments || Top||

#67  BTW, Santa Fe kicks ass because it's on the way to Taos.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 18:59 Comments || Top||

#68  Sorry. MM.

p.s. Actually, my credentials are pretty useful. In the last 5 years since I lost my job with TAU (soft money) I worked as biology teacher, chemistry teacher, and math teacher - so, where!

Dron, it was in 1995.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 19:03 Comments || Top||

#69  Oh Kay guys, I'm applauding the stand up routine but I suggest that you may have started drinking a tad early tonight.

8^) BA in Poli Sci, MBA and extra-curricular in Computers (I read Knuth for fun and profit).

Credentials mean jack except to those who care. I'm not and never have been. Most intellectual person I ever met was fellow carpenter nailing off the roof deck.

Time to reopen the Balvennie. Cheers to all!!
Posted by: AlanC || 10/13/2019 19:05 Comments || Top||

#70  BTW, Santa Fe kicks ass because it's on the way to Taos.

To be young again.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 19:05 Comments || Top||

#71  Calling them credentials in your case g is a slight. They are achievements of which you should be proud and people like me should respect. Now, Honored Fellow of the Kennedy School of Government, we can all spit all that one.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 19:07 Comments || Top||

#72  Spitball
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 19:08 Comments || Top||

#73  #69 I don't know how it is in IT, but - in my experience - if you don't have a piece of paper, you don't exist.

Most intellectual person I ever met was fellow carpenter nailing off the roof deck.

Never said there's any connection between degrees & intellectualism.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 19:18 Comments || Top||

#74  Got to say the actual words, or it's bullshit. I apologize, G, I made a stupid big deal out of a minor disagreement that you were right about. I feel stupid but if you are still my friend I'll get over it.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 19:21 Comments || Top||

#75  #71. Actually no. One reason it didn't occur to me I'm bragging is because most Ph.Ds I know are, how shall I put it, not very good at that they're supposed to be doing. I judge colleagues by their papers.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 19:24 Comments || Top||

#76  #71 Now, it is I who must apologize. Should've quoted the relevant wiki address not bore people with irrelevancies. I'm glad you consider me a friend.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 19:27 Comments || Top||

#77  if you don't have a piece of paper, you don't exist.

So very true today. Back in the wild west it was very seat of the pants. Before security became a thing all you had to do in IT was deliver uptime and somewhat accurate data. Now the credentialed whip the H2Bs to deliver whatever. When I did it soldering irons were still involved and knowing how to use one without baking imported chips was the coin of the realm at 4 am.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 19:28 Comments || Top||

#78  Ooops not #71, #74. Time to hit the bed
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 19:33 Comments || Top||

#79  Okay good, I like everyone involved and don't like to see regulars getting into fights with each other. Obviously we need more chew toys.

But sadly I'm on the rig so there will be no scotch tonight.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/13/2019 19:43 Comments || Top||

#80  OK, *Group hug?* Jeeeeebus
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2019 19:49 Comments || Top||

#81  A delightful meeting of the minds. The depth of knowledge and talent found here has always amazed me.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2019 19:51 Comments || Top||

#82  OK, man love (but not *that* kind) is still a little icky. But this is one hell of a community here....
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 19:51 Comments || Top||

#83  And my Coca Cola bottling background (not credential) God only drinks 7 oz returnables. You heard it here.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2019 19:56 Comments || Top||

#84  Raise my \_/
a tous et a toutes
Posted by: Lex || 10/13/2019 20:48 Comments || Top||

#85  "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/13/2019 22:24 Comments || Top||

#86  Lot of talking past each other here and not much talking to each other. Calm down.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/13/2019 23:32 Comments || Top||

A University of Washington professor declares 'SpongeBob SquarePants' is racist and perpetuates 'violent' acts against indigenous people
[Madness Hub] A University of Washington professor is apparently gravely concerned about the cultural impact Nickelodeon's "SpongeBob SquarePants" could be having on indigenous people.

What are the details?
Professor Holly Barker penned an article that was featured in "The Contemporary Pacific: A Journal of Island Affairs" regarding the cartoon, insisting upon its dangerousness for perpetuating a legacy of racism and violence against Pacific indigenous people.

In an article titled, "Unsettling SpongeBob and the Legacies of Violence on Bikini Bottom," Barker said the show is promoting violence and racism against such people through its "occupation" of native Pacific lands. Barker also points out that the show also promotes "cultural appropriation" in using an island-themed motif throughout its production design.

In the article, Barker insisted that the show's fictional setting of Bikini Bottom — SpongeBob's home — is based on Bikini Atoll, where the U.S. military conducted nuclear testing during the Cold War. During testing, Bikini Atoll natives were relocated and were not permitted to return after scientific testing determined that the area was later uninhabitable due to the nuclear testing.

Though the show is simply a children's cartoon about an animated sink sponge living in an underwater city, Barker called the show "violent," "racist," and "insidious."

"SpongeBob's presence on Bikini Bottom continues the violent and racist expulsion of Indigenous peoples from their lands," Barker wrote. She pointed out that SpongeBob — an "American character" — benefits from the privilege of not having to care about nuclear testing and forced relocation.

"The detonations do not cause concern for the characters, as they did for the Bikinians, nor do they compromise SpongeBob's frequent activities, like visiting hamburger joints or the beach with friends," Barker added.

Barker also insisted that nobody — fictional character or not — should be able to "occupy Bikini."

"SpongeBob's presence on Bikini Bottom continues the violent and racist expulsion of Indigenous peoples from their lands (and in this case their cosmos) that enables U.S. hegemonic powers to extend their military and colonial interests in the postwar era," the professor continued.

The article even pointed claimed the theme song is problematic. The lyrics of the song say:

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
SpongeBob SquarePants!
Absorbent and yellow and porous is he.
SpongeBob SquarePants!
If nautical nonsense be something you wish,
SpongeBob SquarePants!
then drop on the deck and flop like a fish.
SpongeBob SquarePants!

"The first act of the song is to have children identify who resides in the pineapple house," she complained. "The children's response, repeated extensively throughout the song, affirms that the house and Bikini Bottom are the domain of SpongeBob."

"The song's directives, ensconced in humor, provide the viewer with an active role in defining Bikini Bottom as a place of nonsense, as the audience is instructed 'If nautical nonsense be something you wish...drop on the deck and flop like a fish,'" Barker continued.

Watching the show is just as bad, according to Barker, because "the viewer becomes an unwitting participant in the co-opting of Bikini's story and the exclusion of the Bikinian people."

Anything else?
If all that weren't incentive enough to cancel your Nickelodeon package, Barker insisted that the show is also biased against females.

Elsewhere in the article, she complained that save for one lone female main character, "all of the main characters on the show are male."

"The name 'Bob' represents the everyday man, a common American male, much like a 'Joe,'" Barker wrote, pointing out that perspective into the underwater world is "filtered" only through the "activities of men."

Barker added that while show runners did not, perhaps, intentionally create such a cultural travesty of a children's show rife with "racist, violent colonial practices," it still perpetuates the "insidious practice of disappearing indigenous communities."

“We should be uncomfortable with a hamburger-loving American community's occupation of Bikini's lagoon and the ways that it erodes every aspect of sovereignty," she concluded.
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#1  Poor guy can't get a break.
Evangelical pastors say he's swishy.
Woke-y Joker academics say he's rayciss.

Tough out there in toontown these days.
Posted by: Lex || 10/13/2019 0:24 Comments || Top||

#2  When you impose racial quotes on academic tenure, you end with IQ 80 professors - right now somebody in China is ROTFL.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2019 2:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Student reviews, the first two say it all.

But I never liked spongebob anyway.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 10/13/2019 3:50 Comments || Top||

#4  This is clever and all, but the fish and sponges underwater around Bikini Atoll were indigousness all along. Before or after 1947, they weren't read into their citizen rights. I mean, just because talking animals speak English on a cartoon show doesn't mean ...
Posted by: Lemuel Grusosh5178 || 10/13/2019 17:33 Comments || Top||

#5  And if you're an academic, c'mon, doesn't Bikini BOTTOM set off some anatomic identifiers?
Posted by: Lemuel Grusosh5178 || 10/13/2019 17:35 Comments || Top||

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