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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Kimberley A. Strassel: About That Russian ‘Spy'
[WSJ] Since the start of the Trump-Russia collusion fantasy, we’ve seen a pattern: On the eve of any report or fact that might undermine that narrative, the forces behind the FBI investigation leak a "bombshell" claim designed to further justify their actions. Bear this in mind when reading the new desperate‐and highly irresponsible‐reports about that supposed "high-value" Russian spy.

First CNN, and now a volley of outlets, are claiming that the U.S. government in 2017 was forced to pull out‐or "exfiltrate"‐a supremely covert Russian source. According to reports, this source had sent information to the U.S. for decades, had risen high in the Russian national-security infrastructure, and had access to Russian President Vladimir Putin. More notable: All the stories, to the last, stress that this source was crucial to U.S. intelligence officials’ alarm and reaction to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

A fight has since broken out over the reason the U.S. moved to extract the source. CNN (ludicrously) claims it is because President Donald Trump mishandled classified information. Every other outlet cites officials noting their concern that the U.S. media (in thrall to the collusion narrative) might blow the source’s cover. But this brouhaha is a side issue to the vastly more consequential point: There’s a reason this story is appearing now, and therefore a reason to doubt its full accuracy.
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Posted by: Besoeker || 09/18/2019 03:35 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336096 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Shitshow, Part 88.
Posted by: Lex || 09/18/2019 8:19 Comments || Top||

How a war between Russia and the US would kill 34MILLION in hours: Horrific simulation shows countries obliterated by carpet of atomic bombs
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/18/2019 02:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336096 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Saw this presentation in 2017. Back then it was 50 million. Reduces critical war strategy to a match between two really glitchy AIs. Funny that a near-brexit UK should feature this grim wishful think scare on their part, given the current scenario. I think the UK overly criticizes the rest of the world possessing nukes.

Alexander Glaser of Princeton University (the principal researcher here) is a fine academic and scientist. He's contributed to the science of detection of nuclear stockpiles and techniques for de-weaponization of weapons-grade. Co-authored a few papers with Indian nuclear scientists. One of the anti-nuke do-gooders.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/18/2019 3:58 Comments || Top||

#2  ....Hmmmph. When I was with SAC in the early 80s, we were ready to take out three times that many in just fifteen to thirty minutes.

Slacker kids these days.

Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 09/18/2019 4:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Curious -

New York

Indianapolis, Indiana

Washington, DC

San Diego, California

Austin, Texas

Austin? Really? To take out the music folks?
Posted by: Bobby || 09/18/2019 8:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Seat of government - one of three outside NY/DC - in the southwest.
Posted by: Lex || 09/18/2019 8:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Yes, Austin TX, the San Fran of the Rio Grande (country). Would appear to be an overall gain for Texas.

Note well, most of them take out big chucks of blue votes.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/18/2019 8:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Mr.President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops! Uh, depending on the breaks.

Gen. "Buck" Turgidson, Dr. Strangelove, 1964
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/18/2019 9:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Plus all the following deaths that would come in multiple waves due to lack of food then medicine, healthcare, looting, gangs, etc..
Posted by: gorb || 09/18/2019 9:36 Comments || Top||

#8  ^And termination of smart-phone service
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/18/2019 9:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Second Wave, Tier Five, IIRC, for Oklahoma City. State capitol, nexus of railroad/insterstate highway bridges, AND Tinker AFB -- the home of OCAMA where B-52s were repaired. So 1-3 ground burst to take out any hardened structures in Tinker AFB (the others to knock down bridges)...

At 20 miles from the center of Tinker AFB I knew as a kid and teenager that a 20-megaton airburst thermonuclear "sunrise" was a strong possibility. Not a fun period, no. And the millennials worry about Global Warming ... Heh!
Posted by: magpie || 09/18/2019 10:52 Comments || Top||

#10  The 1980's called. They want their headline back.
Posted by: Iblis || 09/18/2019 10:53 Comments || Top||

#11  What about a simulation of a Saudi-Pak nuke attack on Iran, with India joining the party against Pak?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/18/2019 11:00 Comments || Top||

#12  I've been sweating this out since I was four years old but Ancient Alien theorist claim the UFOs will disable all the missiles so it ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/18/2019 11:49 Comments || Top||

#13  Pak missiles are probably more likely to blow up the Paks than anybody else.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/18/2019 11:52 Comments || Top||

#14  Living close to a NATO facility is the best location if WW3 breaks out. At least the most merciful one.
Posted by: European Conservative || 09/18/2019 14:45 Comments || Top||

#15  I remember my first visit to the Pentagon and the ground zero hotdog stand with the bullseye on the
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 09/18/2019 20:40 Comments || Top||

#16  ...roof in the center .
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 09/18/2019 20:41 Comments || Top||

The Secret History of Fort Detrick, the CIA's Base for Mind Control Experiments
[Politico] In 1954, a prison doctor in Kentucky isolated seven black inmates and fed them "double, triple and quadruple" doses of LSD for 77 days straight. No one knows what became of the victims. They may have died without knowing they were part of the CIA’s highly secretive program to develop ways to control minds‐a program based out of a little-known Army base with a dark past, Fort Detrick.

Suburban sprawl has engulfed Fort Detrick, an Army base 50 miles from Washington in the Maryland town of Frederick. Seventy-six years ago, however, when the Army selected Detrick as the place to develop its super-secret plans to wage germ warfare, the area around the base looked much different. In fact, it was chosen for its isolation. That’s because Detrick, still thriving today as the Army’s principal base for biological research and now encompassing nearly 600 buildings on 13,000 acres, was for years the nerve center of the CIA’s hidden chemical and mind control empire.

Related: Tom Woods - Ep. 1494 The CIA and Mind Control
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/18/2019 02:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336074 views] Top|| File under:

#1  fed them "double, triple and quadruple" doses of LSD for 77 days straight. No one knows what became of the victims.

They escaped and became the Legislative Black Caucus of Maryland.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/18/2019 5:20 Comments || Top||

#2  The Legacy Infotainment Enterprises has been doing this for generations.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/18/2019 8:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Also, put on your tin foil hat and read Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/18/2019 12:46 Comments || Top||

Attacks on Saudi Arabia Aren't America's Problem
[Townhall] America's top source of imported oil (43 percent of it) is Canada. As fellow NATO members, an attack on Canada would be considered an attack on the United States, and a response could include the use of armed force. As with any declaration of war, this would require congressional approval, but the bottom line is that Canada is the very definition of a U.S. ally in diplomatic terms.

The same doesn't hold true for America's second-largest oil supplier, Saudi Arabia (9 percent). There is no agreement or framework for the U.S. to respond to an attack on Saudi soil, let alone any obligation to do so. The Saudis are commonly referred to as American allies, even though they really aren't in any official sense. They do, however, purchase U.S. weapons and represent significant oil imports, so they are trading partners and commercial allies. That's about as far as it goes.

So when a Saudi oil facility was attacked from the air over the weekend, knocking out roughly half of its oil production capacity, U.S. President Donald Trump's knee-jerk response (on Twitter, of course) was troubling.

"Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked," Trump tweeted. "There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!"

First of all, why is there only "reason to believe" that U.S. officials know who the culprit is when the region in question is one of the most surveilled on the planet? We should know who did it, right down to the precise trajectory of the attack. Let's see the evidence.

And why would America, with all its spy technology and resources, be "waiting to hear" from the Saudis about who they decide to blame?
Cause he wants them to come begging, before he makes an offer. And this time around, IMO, it's going to cost them plenty.
...America has flooded Saudi Arabia with weapons and military assistance. Placing a missile system in the paws of a panda bear would have been more productive. The Saudis have been employing America's finest weaponry to fight the pro-Iranian Houthis for control of neighboring Yemen and have been losing to guys in flip-flops. It's so embarrassing that American defense manufacturers should sue the Saudis for defaming their products.
House of Saud (it's not really a country) can't afford to have real military - because coup.
...The best thing Trump can do is cut off all military assistance and arms sales to the Saudis and focus on what he can control to America's benefit: total North American energy independence.
It's not about Saudis, it's about Iran, missy.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/18/2019 00:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336091 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Due to the shale oil revolution, the US is now self-sufficient in petroleum. We can now tell those Saudi pieces of shit who did 9/11 to go and fuck their camels, and they can keep their polluting fossil fuel in the ground where it belongs.

Once upon a time we were utterly dependent on Saudi oil. That time has passed.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 09/18/2019 1:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Alas, the influence a nation or organization has on the world is based on how well it respects its commitments to others when the others are subject to attack.
UN piece keeping took a hit that it has never recovered from when it abandoned its role as peacekeeper when it withdrew at Nasser's request from Sinai when he became belligerent toward Israel.
Chamberlain's refusal to help Czechoslovakia in 1938 and 1939 led Stalin to approach Hitler, and them jointly to start WWII.
US abandonment of its commitment to Ukraine when under attack from Russia, which had been made in exchange for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons, all immensely weakened respect and influence of those who ignored their commitments and all quickly led to war.
The reasons given here for abandoning long term commitments would have the same effects. Wiping out the bases used this attack and destroying the Iranina navy would be an appropriate mild response.
Destroying i
Iran's nuclear sites would be stronger.
At the same time Israel will have to go on war footing and should be prepared to destroy Hezbollah entirely if there is a Lebanese response.
Without some response now, there will be a worse problem soon. When aggressors think they are successful, they expand their aggressions.
Posted by: Daniel || 09/18/2019 3:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Although I tend to agree about wanting to get involved a huge amount of the worlds oil comes out of Saudi Arabia and if the world economy tanks that would be bad for the US.
Posted by: ruprecht || 09/18/2019 12:22 Comments || Top||

#4  What commitments do we have to Saudi Arabia? Why are we not engaging in "regime change" to install a democratic government? You know, like we're doing in Venezuela and Iran?

It is best for everyone, especially Americans, if we disentangle ourselves from these terrorist camel fucking assholes. The sooner the better. If Europeans were serious about their interests they would have paid their fair share of NATO. Obviously they're not worried, hence Nordstream 2. Why must we create a war on their behalf, one they never asked for and will vehemently protest?

America First!
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 09/18/2019 13:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Regime change? I think you misread the temperament of the US population right now. Half is trying to regime change our own government.
Posted by: ruprecht || 09/18/2019 15:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Never thought i'd say this, but I agree with Herb. Fuck them and let them pull their own weight.
Posted by: bbrewer126 || 09/18/2019 22:05 Comments || Top||

US construction index at record high, more work than workers
[Washington Examiner] Optimism in the U.S. construction industry has reached a record high, with builders forced to push off work because finding help is difficult due to the historic unemployment low.

The new Commercial Construction Index, compiled by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and USG Corp., climbed to a record high in the third quarter, with 77% of commercial contractors optimistic about their future.

The index, provided to Secrets in advance of its release, also found that "half of all contractors" expect higher revenue and the expectations for bigger profits next year also surged.

"Contractors are thinking about the future and are optimistic about what’s ahead," said Christopher Griffin, CEO of USG Corporation. "Continued levels of confidence around backlog and profit suggest nonresidential construction will continue to play an important role in overall sector growth," he added.

The Chamber noted that the industry is running short of workers and that 61% of commercial contractors plan to hire in the next six months.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/18/2019 02:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336085 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gee... maybe we should - I dunno - raise wages, tighten the labor market even further by kicking out the illegals, and give millions of young native-born American men of all races a chance to earn a living wage and actually support a family?

Which party in 2019 would support such an outlandish notion?
Posted by: Lex || 09/18/2019 9:12 Comments || Top||

Home Front: Politix
All The Other States Beg California To Add Them To Travel Ban
[Babylon Bee] U.S.‐After California added Iowa to its growing list of states to which the government will not fund trips, all the other states began clamoring to get added to this ban list.

"Wait---there's a way to get Californian politicians banned from traveling here? Where do we sign up?" said one state legislator in Georgia. "Is there a waiting list? Wait---all we have to do is refuse to fund gender transition surgeries!?! That's amazing!"

While just eleven states are currently on the list, dozens more are applying. Soon, almost every state except Oregon and New York will be on the list, and peace and utopia will break out across the nation as CA politicians will no longer be able to go there and say weird things and do even dumber things.

The states were disappointed to learn that the ban didn't include all Californians, but they said banning just the politicians was a good start, since they're the ones who ruined the state to begin with.
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#1  What we need is a moving ban. CA needs to ban its people from moving to deplorable states.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/18/2019 2:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Closed state borders, travel visas, wire....?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/18/2019 3:02 Comments || Top||

#3  ..tagging, don't forget tagging.

Add another item to the bucket list that the judiciary has done to screw up the country, that being tossing the minimal residency time before people can vote in local elections.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/18/2019 8:02 Comments || Top||

#4  CA needs to ban its people from moving to deplorable states.

So you can move to Massachusetts, then to New Hampshire!
Posted by: Raj || 09/18/2019 8:48 Comments || Top||

#5  We moved from CA to Idaho. In our case, we were political refugees. Simple entrance exam , such as "How many genders are there?"Ans: greater than 2 is a fail or "How much ammo do you need?" Ans: More than you have.
A few simple questions should weed out the un-deplorables
Posted by: Warthog || 09/18/2019 8:57 Comments || Top||

Science & Technology
Joan Swirsky: Autism – still looking for answers in all the wrong places
[RenewAmerica] "No common factor in the water, air, local pesticides, diet or even building materials and clothing can explain the emergence and relentless increase in this serious, life-long neurodevelopmental disorder," she stated.

"What all industrial countries do have in common," she added, "is...the use of routine prenatal ultrasound on pregnant women. In countries with nationalized healthcare, where virtually all pregnant women are exposed to ultrasound, the autism rates are even higher than in the U.S., where due to disparities in income and health insurance, some 30 percent of pregnant women do not yet undergo ultrasound scanning."

The cause of autism, Rodgers continues, "has been pinned on everything from 'emotionally remote' mothers...to vaccines, genetics, immunological disorders, environmental toxins and maternal infections, [but] a far simpler possibility...is the pervasive use of prenatal ultrasound, which can cause potentially dangerous thermal effects.
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#1  TSA security screening... the sign says you're "OK".
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/18/2019 5:10 Comments || Top||

#2  What all industrial countries do have in common ... is older parents. Greater chance of defective sperm or eggs.
Posted by: Herb Slaling7012 || 09/18/2019 5:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Something interesting I saw on Facebook the other day: dyslexia was not an issue until literacy became the norm, and autism similarly follows as the world has become louder and more distracting, with considerably more interactions with strangers who don’t understand one’s little eccentricities instad of living on a farm or small town in a tight knit community.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/18/2019 8:53 Comments || Top||

#5  TW - so you're saying it's not actually a new physical phenom, it just appears that way because of this new label + more frequent diagnosis?
Posted by: Lex || 09/18/2019 8:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Dyslexia may not exist, warn academics

Dyslexia is like ADHD, a "disorder" invented to protect bad teachers
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/18/2019 9:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Or as 'Burger Seafarious said years ago, "What's wrong with a little lysdexia?"
Posted by: Bobby || 09/18/2019 10:20 Comments || Top||

#8  TW - so you're saying it's not actually a new physical phenom, it just appears that way because of this new label + more frequent diagnosis?

I believe she is, and I agree. In fact, I'll go a little further, and say that a society filled with people who are Autistic, have Down syndrome, or are otherwise "differently abled" is normal. Even desirable, as such people bring their families benefits that aren't immediately apparent. It's just that 100 years later we're still suffering from the aftershocks of the Eugenics movement, which was striving for a society made up on "perfect" people.
Posted by: Secret Master || 09/18/2019 19:58 Comments || Top||

#9  Having spent a fair bit of time around autistic folks of various stripes, I think there's not a single cause, but a variety of autisms. And at least one variety is obviously genetic.

Since the onset of autism isn't always immediate, some have suspected that stories about changelings describe autistic youngsters. https://adc.bmj.com/content/90/3/271.full
Posted by: james || 09/18/2019 23:16 Comments || Top||

Terror Networks
A new generation is taking up the mantle in the fight against terrorism.
[CTC] This September 11th, a new generation is taking up the mantle in the fight against terrorism. "Later this year, a U.S. service member is likely to be deployed to Afghanistan who was not yet born on September 11, 2001," Daniel Byman notes in our feature article on the jihadi terror threat facing the United States 18 years later. He assesses "although the operational freedom of jihadi groups is constricted by U.S. and allied counterterrorism efforts, the jihadi cause as a whole has far more local and regional influence than it did in the years before 9/11, it is better able to inspire individuals in the West to act on its behalf, and groups have proven resilient despite the fierce U.S.-led onslaught."

Our interview is with Joseph Maguire, the United States’ Acting Director of National Intelligence. He says that "since the catastrophic attacks on 9/11, we have significantly diminished the ability of jihadists to strike the U.S. by removing hundreds of leaders and operatives, disrupting dozens of networks and plots, and degrading safe havens. But some jihadist groups still have that intent, not only to target the homeland but also our interests overseas. They are continually adapting to setbacks by modifying their tactics, seeking out alternative safe havens, and using new and emerging technologies to communicate, recruit, and conduct attacks. This makes for an increasingly diverse and unpredictable threat." As the terror threat evolves, Acting Director Maguire stresses the importance of addressing the still-significant security challenges posed by the Islamic State in Syria, Iraq, and beyond given the group still poses a "tremendous threat" and has "all the recipes" for a resurgence.

Amira Jadoon and Andrew Mines examine Islamic State Khorasan’s leadership losses between 2015 and 2018 by leadership tier, year, and geography. Their findings highlight "the group’s tenacious presence in Nangarhar (Afghanistan) and Baluchistan (Pakistan), despite declines in overall number of attacks. An important factor contributing to ISK’s resiliency appears to be rooted in its steady recruitment of experienced Pakistani militants that sustain its leadership ranks." Two years after the Marawi siege in the Philippines, Julie Chernov Hwang outlines the motivations for joining the Maute Group based on her interviews with 25 former members of the jihadi group and a related faction. Aaron Zelin and Katherine Bauer outline the significant progress Tunisia has made over the past two years in developing domestic counter-terrorism finance capabilities.

Paul Cruickshank, Editor in Chief
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/18/2019 02:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336072 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

Home Front: Culture Wars
How Feminist Social Justice Warriors are Killing Men
I have said time and time again, that feminism is akin to cancer on the world. Some will undoubtedly question my views on feminism; I agree that first wave, and even to a point second wave feminism did good things for woman and equality. The right to vote, wear clothes we feel comfortable in, and the ability to work outside the home to name a few.

As third wave feminism desperately needs to embrace a cause in order to stay both relevant and valid in the eyes of society, femimists have doubled down on men in general. They denounce "the patriarchy," the imaginary world that has men running everything and secretly holding women back from certain careers and advancement in the workplace. They even claim an imaginary wage gap is a problem. However, none of this exists in reality.

Women and men think differently. I know this may be a shock to some, but our brains do in fact work differently. Women are less likely to be attracted to careers that men are typically drawn to. Engineering, math, science and work in the trades are not something many women seek out to find careers in. Just as men are typically not administrative office support, human resources specialists and even teachers very often. This being said, nobody is holding women back from certain careers; they are choosing not to pursue those careers upon entering college and then the workforce.

Future historians will be arguing a lot - about how much damage giving k-12 into exclusive female care done the society.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/18/2019 09:49 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336068 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually life expectancy for women has declined to that of men. I foresee men doing better doing their own thing separate from women. In the industrialized world men are abstaining from women. Population declines show this. The men I see seem happier. I had three days off. I tell people the first day I rested. The second day I was still tired so I rested. The third day I decided to rest because I was to work that night. So how was I able to do that? I'm single.:)
Posted by: Dale || 09/18/2019 10:42 Comments || Top||

#2  The really funny part of this is how feminism, by creating rich women, actually harmed them. Women require men of higher status than themselves to marry, and by creating high status women, has made marriage harder than ever. And the small pool of eligible men would never want a hard charging feminist harpy as a wife.

It's lose-lose all the way around, and the biggest losers are women.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 09/18/2019 13:50 Comments || Top||

#3  I agree with Herb.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/18/2019 13:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Agree? Under the neo-SJW guilt by association principles that under Rantburg today operates, doesn't that make you a Mullah apologist? Please to be explaining.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 09/18/2019 15:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Somethings you can only learn as you grow up Herb.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/18/2019 15:57 Comments || Top||

#6  [this comment has been deleted despite it not violating any Rantburg rules.]
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 09/18/2019 16:27 Comments || Top||

#7  Herb reserves the right to disagree with anyone who agrees with someone like Herb.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/18/2019 16:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Couldn't even take a supportive remark without baiting the readership, eh dickie boy?
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/18/2019 16:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Better stay away from him!
He'll rip your lungs out Jim.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/18/2019 16:59 Comments || Top||

#10  Despite Herb's persecution complex, I don't delete him. I just disparage his cut-n-paste anti-Americanism and troll qualities

and occasionally his parental heritage
Posted by: Frank G || 09/18/2019 19:20 Comments || Top||

From Each According to His Abilities . . .
An article from a NY school teacher in 1951.
[FEE.org] As a teacher, I found that the socialist-communist idea of taking "from each according to his abilities," and giving "to each according to his needs" was generally accepted without question by most students. In an effort to explain the fallacy in this theory, I sometimes tried this approach:

When one of the brighter or harder-working students made a grade of 95 on a test, I suggested that I take away 20 points and give them to a student who had made only 55 points on his test. Thus each would contribute according to his abilities and‐since both would have a passing mark‐each would receive according to his needs. After I juggled the grades of all the other students in this fashion, the result was usually a "common ownership" grade of between 75 and 80‐the minimum needed for passing, or for survival. Then I speculated with the students as to the probable results if I actually used the socialistic theory for grading papers.

First, the highly productive students‐and they are always a minority in school as well as in life‐would soon lose all incentive for producing. Why strive to make a high grade if part of it is taken from you by "authority" and given to someone else?

Second, the less productive students‐a majority in school as elsewhere‐would, for a time, be relieved of the necessity to study or to produce. This socialist-communist system would continue until the high producers had sunk‐or had been driven down‐to the level of the low producers. At that point, in order for anyone to survive, the "authority" would have no alternative but to begin a system of compulsory labor and punishments against even the low producers. They, of course, would then complain bitterly, but without understanding.

Finally I returned the discussion to the ideas of freedom and enterprise‐the market economy‐where each person has freedom of choice and is responsible for his own decisions and welfare.

Gratifyingly enough, most of my students then understood what I meant when I explained that socialism‐even in a democracy‐would eventually result in a living death for all except the "authorities" and a few of their favorite lackeys.
Nowadays you would be fired before you can say "Jack Robinson", bub. Probably sued too for harming the students' sensitive souls.
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#1  As a student, I used help my under-productive colleagues cheat in exams, supplying them with answers and often using my spare time to complete their projects. I find that a better model.

Made me smarter and readier for the real world, while they ended up being muscle for me when I needed them in those 'tender years'.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/18/2019 4:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Here in America, the judiciary implemented the program in a number of cities, called it busing. Initiated upper and middle class (both white and black) flight from the cities. (See - Detroit).

In the 20th Century the abomination was "I was only obeying orders". In the 21st Century it will "We meant well".
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/18/2019 8:09 Comments || Top||

Austrian schoolboy (not what you think)
[DavidWarrenOnline] There is, and there has always been, little overlap between the world of politics and the world of truth. This is something to bear in mind during a season of voting, as the politicians stake their claims and give their prescriptions for all that ails us.

Example: a large bureaucracy will, in approximately 100 percent of cases, become extremely wasteful, and essentially corrupt. It will perpetuate the "problem" that it was founded to solve, and at its most creative, invent new and quite imaginative evils. It will become a vested interest ‐ an "economic player" in its own right ‐ and spread, like a cancer, well beyond the flesh it first inhabited. Any attempt to restrain it will then engender new bureaucracies. The idea of a "humane" bureaucracy is a contradiction of terms. There is no such thing.

Gentle reader must understand that I am not speaking only of "guvmint," but of bureaucracy, at large. The thing is not necessarily a government department. Any big corporation will quickly show symptoms. The only difference between "public" and "private" is in longevity. A private bureaucracy will kill its host, but thanks to the power of taxation, a public bureaucracy can be long sustained. It is also backed by law and police action, which even today is more effective than mere pointless rules and regulations. The latter, however, are more nimble in expansion, and prepare the ground for law ‐ the full spiritual stasis.

This was, anyway, the view of that "Austrian school economist," Ludwig von Mises, proponent like the rest in that school of "classical liberalism." His hatred of bureaucracy was a wonderful, animated thing. In his great book, Human Action, and many others, he could become almost boring on the topic. What distinguishes the Austrian school from, say, the famous Chicago school of Milton Friedman and his ilk, was its European origin. (They were, however, consciously allied.) The "Austrians" go back, to Catholic antecedents, and their interests are not reducible to "pure economics" (scare quotes because there is no such thing). Over time it extended to broad social questions, and through a constant interest in the history of ideas. These were multilingual and multicultural, in the manner of the old Habsburg empire; where our American classical liberalism has been almost unilingually English, provincially distrustful of foreign thinkers, and buzzing with statistics. (You’ll need a degree in math.)
Actually, IMO, statistics have very little to do with math. And, "mathematical economics" are a joke.
...One may see the great division in Western thought and politics, which the Austrian-school Friedrich Hayek traced back to Bacon and Descartes, and can be traced farther to the Nominalists of the later Middle Ages. Humans live in freedom and make choices, to be restrained only by the plainest moral codes. Or, by the alternative thesis, we are components of a machine, which the man with Power can monkey with, by implanting stimuli here and there.

We are creatures of God, or ‐ we are replaceable parts in a bureaucracy.
Well, I'm an evolutionary biologist, but I get your point
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