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Africa North
Report: UK offers to help Egypt fight Sinai militants
[Ynet] Britannia has offered to provide Egypt with military advice in its battle against gunnies in the Sinai Peninsula, the London-based Arabic-language al-Hayat newspaper reported Monday.

According to the report, Egyptian Chief of Staff Sedky Sobhy met with Simon Mayall, Middle East advisor at the British Ministry of Defense, to discuss military cooperation between the two countries.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6461 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IIRC the Bammer + Admin is mulling transferring US-NATO post-2014 focii from AFPAK to AFRICA while holding the status quo in the Persian GUlf vee Iran.

UK to fight in Sinai while abandoning Afghanistan [France? EU?] ...???

To wit,

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > UK WANTS AFGHANISTAN ABANDONED | [Guardian.UK] AFGHANISTAN SHOULD BE LEFT "TO GET ON WID THINGS": BRITISH AMBASSADOR, i.e. UK Ambassador to Kabul Sir Richard Staggs.

OTOH ...

* SAME > CHIEF OF IRAN'S QUDS FORCE CLAIMS IRAQ, SOUTH LEBANON UNDER HIS CONTROL.

* WAFF > PHILORUSSIAN TYCOON GETS ELECTED IN [ex-Soviet SSR]GEORGIA - TRANSLATION: RUSSIA GETS CLOSER TO [MilPol dominating] TURKEY!?

I'm a'guessin the Brit SAS + Royal Marines, etc. are NOT in the right ME country or Region.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/02/2012 22:09 Comments || Top||


Egypt Doctors Strike For Better Wages, Services
[Ynet] Egypt's doctors' union says the country's physicians have gone on a partial strike, abstaining from offering non-emergency services in public hospitals to protest run-down facilities and meager wages.
O clever ones! Your government is surviving on promises of borrowed money, hunger and disease are already spreading, and you choose to remove the only skilled help available? The Horsemen of the Apocalypse call their grooms to saddle the horses, so you, with your knowledge and training, choose to run and fetch them, that they may be sooner on the road.
Mohammed Abdel-Hamid, who is a spokesman for the union, said Monday that over 70 percent of the country's 520 public hospitals took part.
The tenth plague was the death of the firstborn sons...
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6460 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

#1  Looks like they have a plague of bureaucrats.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/02/2012 9:13 Comments || Top||

#2  "to protest meager wages"

Is this a suggestion that some higher paid social servents feel their earnings should reflect the recent inflation of food prices?
What and who next?
Posted by: Cretinous Humongous || 10/02/2012 18:32 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd demand my pay in wheat and gasoline.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/02/2012 19:16 Comments || Top||

#4  In fact, I would like to do that HERE (of course as an employee of an evil oil company I kind of do get paid in gasoline.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/02/2012 19:18 Comments || Top||


Who Really Killed Gadhafi - And Why?
Does this story fall into the category of "Tall Tales or True"?
If it's even close to reality .. maybe it will make politicians think twice about who's on their list of major campaign contributors. Hahahaha! :-)
Source: AllAfrica.com, Oct 1, 2012

French secret services organised the capture of former Libyan ruler Moamer Kadhafi and may have killed him on then-president Nicolas Sarkozy's orders, British and Italian papers claimed Sunday. And Kadhafi was located thanks to information provided by Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, reports say.

Sarkozy wanted Kadhafi dead after the Libyan leader publicly threatened to publish proof of his claim to have secretly financed Sarkozy's 2007 presidential election campaign, Britain's Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph claim.

Kadhafi was found hiding in a pipe near Sirte by rebel fighters on 20 October last year. He was beaten by his captors and killed, as recorded on gruesome mobile phone footage that was broadcast round the world.

Now the Mail claims that a French spy infiltrated the group and shot the deposed strongman in the head.

And the Telegraph says that French spies operating in Sirte were able to lead the rebels to him because Assad had given them his telephone number in exchange for France easing pressure on his regime.

As Kadhafi's forces lost Tripoli, Western attention turned to the violent repression of protests in Syria.

But, although Sarkozy had proposed humanitarian zones and intervention, Assad persuaded France to ease off in return for Kadhafi's Iridium satellite phone number, according to Rami Eel Obeidi, the former head of foreign intelligence for the rebels.

The French pinpointed Kadhafi after he phoned one of his supporters, Yusuf Shakir, and Palestinian left-wing leader Ahmed Jibril in Syria. They then directed militia fighters to a point where they could ambush Kadhafi, he said.

The ambush was "an exclusive French operation", although Turkish and British military intelligence in Sirte were informed, Obeidi said.

Also this weekend, Mahmoud Jibril, who was interim prime minister after Kadhafi's fall, told Egyptian television that Kadhafi was killed by "a foreign agent who mixed with the revolutionary brigades".

And Western diplomats told Italy's Corriere della Sera that the killer was "almost certainly French" and that "Sarkozy had every reason to want to get rid of the colonel as quickly as possible".

"The view is supported by information gathered by investigators in Benghazi, Libya's second city and the place where the 'Arab Spring' revolution against Gaddafi started in early 2011," comments the Daily Mail.

The French foreign ministry has refused to confirm or deny the claims.

Ben Omran Shaaban, a 22-year-old rebel fighter who was among the group who attacked Kadhafi and frequently brandished the gun said to have killed him, died in a Paris hospital on Monday.

He was reported to have been beaten up and shot by Kadhafi supporters and have been flown to France for treatment.
Posted by: Raider || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6462 views] Top|| File under:

#1  this one may be doubtful - some juicy tidbit that was leaked to the media in a bar - but who knows? i checked with one source, who heard it was S. African mercenaries who assisted in finding Gadhafi. Maybe the "Final Hunt for Gadhafi" will be one of those campfire yarns with a million different variations :-)
Posted by: Grolugum Protector of the Veps3806 || 10/02/2012 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Assad stiffing him doesn't surprise. The Sarkozy link is fanciful. Although Sarkozy could well have taken money from Daffy.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/02/2012 0:32 Comments || Top||

#3  The news at the time was pretty clear about aircraft (I think French Air Force) attacking Qaddafi's escaping convoy & stopping it on the road, which was the immediate precursor to his capture. Interesting that Qaddafi's killer was wounded much later, sent to France & died there.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/02/2012 9:48 Comments || Top||

#4  So the French have WitPro for their agents?
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/02/2012 11:12 Comments || Top||

#5  I wonder what ever happened to Daffy's amazon bodyguards?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/02/2012 15:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Our government never told us anything but lies about the NATO intervention in Libya so it's easy to believe just about anything in the way of an explanation. Maybe true, maybe not. But it certainly sounds like something that would be within the realm of possibility.

How do I know the government told lies? Well, they said they were doing it to protect civilians but they never told us how many civilians the NATO war planes killed to protect civilians. They prolonged a nasty little civil war, in which they had no business, that looked like it was gonna be all over with in a few days thereby greatly increasing the number of people who were killed.

One question this article raises but does not answer is why Col. Daffy would threaten to expose his contribution to Sarkozy's election. Was Sarkozy putting some kind of pressure on Daffy? If so, what and why? And why would Obama and Cameron go along with Daffy's murder? The whole thing reeks like a crock of shit.

Then, when the war was over, the Obama administration sent an unprotected diplomatic mission into Libya. Did it not occur to them that some of those people who were under the NATO bombs might still be around and still possess the wherewithal to extract revenge? No? So a few more civilians got killed.

Sorry, folks. I'm gonna post this picture again because the duplicity and treachery is so amazing. I mean, one day they appear to be having a nice little bromance and the next day one of them is having the other whacked.

Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/02/2012 16:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Oh, one more question: Was Daffy attempting to blackmail Sarkozy? For what? Hmmmm....
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/02/2012 16:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Colonel Mustard, in the Library, with a hatchet!
Posted by: mojo || 10/02/2012 17:17 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Hadi Wants Yemeni Gitmo Detainees Released, Site
[Yemen Post] Yemen's President Abdrabu Mansour Hadi has cancelled all financial conditions to receive the Yemeni Gitmo detainees that were set by the former president President-for-Life Ali Abdullah Saleh
... Saleh initially took power as a strongman of North Yemen in 1977, when disco was in flower, but he didn't invite Donna Summer to the inauguration and Blondie couldn't make it...
, Alahale reported on Sunday quoting well-informed Yemeni and US sources.

Hadi is currently on a visit to the US within his first overseas trip that included stops in the UK and other European countries.

He met with US officials in Washington on Sunday who briefed him on the financial conditions set by his predecessor to receive the Yemeni detainees, who are held in the US Guantanamo jail, the website quoted the sources as saying.

"Saleh demanded $200 million in return for receiving the Yemeni detainees, but the US offered him only $20 million. The two sides could not reach an agreement to release the detainees by then," the US officials told Hadi.

One of the sources said the US officials admired Hadi who said the detainees are Yemenis and their government should be responsible for their release, it added.

The Yemeni detainees make up about half of all those held in Guantanamo. In the past few years, a number of them were released and sent home.

One of the detainees was reported to have died in the jail this year, but no details were available about his death in Yemen.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda


Tribal leaders discuss expansion of Houthi group
[Yemen Post] Yemeni tribal leaders held a meeting in Sana'a in which they discussed the Houthi
...a Zaidi Shia insurgent group operating in Yemen. They have also been referred to as the Believing Youth. Hussein Badreddin al-Houthi is said to be the spiritual leader of the group and most of the military leaders are his relatives. The Yemeni government has accused the Houthis of having ties to the Iranian government, which wouldn't suprise most of us. The group has managed to gain control over all of Saada Governorate and parts of Amran, Al Jawf and Hajjah Governorates. Its slogan is "God is Great, Death to America™", Death to Israel, a curse on the Jews" ...
group's attempts to expand in some Yemeni governorates.

They affirmed that they will not stand idly towards violence committed by the Houthi group in Raida, Saada, Hajja and other areas, calling locals to unite.

The meeting included the chief of Hashid tribal federation, the head of the Political Security Ghalib al-Qamish and other tribal leaders, sources affirmed.

Dozens were killed and maimed when Houthi fighters tried to control on Raida, an areas of Amran governorate, last week.

A tribal mediation managed to put an end to the conflict and persuaded the Houthi fighters to leave Raida.

Yemeni analysts say the Houthi group seeks to expand in some northern governorates and operate as a proxy of Iran, asserting that it receives support from Iran and the former president Ali Abdulllah Saleh.

Yemeni media sources said Saleh and his family held several meetings with Houthi leaders and representatives including the Iranian ambassador to Sana'a.

A Yemeni think-tank, Abaad Research and Study Centre has recently said that slogans raised by the Houthi group led to the storm of the US Embassy in Sana'a early of September.

The main slogan of the Houthi group is "God is Great, Death to America™, Death to Israel, a curse on the Jew."

The Houthi group that has recently allied with the former president President-for-Life Ali Abdullah Saleh
... Saleh initially took power as a strongman of North Yemen in 1977, when disco was in flower, but he didn't invite Donna Summer to the inauguration and Blondie couldn't make it...
and his family started to spread and print its slogans on most streets of Sana'a.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Houthis


Bangladesh
Kamaruzzaman led Razakars in Sherpur carnage
Razakar and Al-Badr men led by war crimes accused Muhammad Kamaruzzaman committed massacre along with the Pakistan army in Sohagpur and Benupara of Sherpur on July 25, 1971, a prosecution witness told International Crimes Tribunal-2 yesterday.

Mohammad Jalal Uddin, son of martyr Safir Uddin of Sohagpur and tenth prosecution witness in the war crimes case against Kamaruzzaman, said at least 245 people, including his father and paternal uncle, were killed that day.

"Baka Bura, Nasa and Kadir Doctor were Razakars
...the paramilitary force organized by the Pakistan Army during the Bangladesh Liberation War in 1971. The Urdu word razakar literally means volunteer. The Razakar force was composed of mostly pro-Pakistani Bengalis and Urdu-speaking migrants living in East Pakistan, who became infamous for their atrocities...
and Kamaruzzaman was their chief. They committed the massacre after bringing the Pakistan army into the village," said the 62-year-old witness.

During his 25-minute testimony, Jalal said Kamaruzzaman was a Sherpur-based Razakar leader and Razakars used to follow his orders strictly.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Jamaat-e-Islami


Bangladesh says opposition attacked Buddhists
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina
...Bangla dynastic politician and current Prime Minister of Bangladesh. She has been the President of the Bangla Awami League since 1981. She is the eldest of five children of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the founding father of Bangladesh. Her party defeated the BNP-led Four-Party Alliance in the 2008 parliamentary elections. She has once before held the office, from 1996 to 2001, when she was defeated in a landslide...
's government is blaming Islamic beturbanned goons and opposition activists for attacks over the weekend on minority Buddhists and their temples in southern Bangladesh.

"In primary investigations, we have found that organized radical Islamic groups attacked the houses and places of worship," Home Minister Mohiudddin Khan Alamgir told news hounds after a visit to the scene on Sunday. "Activists of the opposition parties were also among the attacks."

Alamgir accused local opposition Bangladesh Nationalist Party politician Lutfar Rahman Kajal of instigating the attack, a charge denied by the opposition politician.

Hundreds of Buddhists fled their southern Bangladesh villages in the wake of attacks by Mohammedans who burned at least 10 Buddhist temples and 40 homes in anger over a Facebook photo of a burned Koran.

The Buddhists started returning home Monday amid heightened security and more than 160 arrests.

Mahmud Ali, a local news hound in southern Ramu where the violence occurred, said some local villagers blamed minority Rohingya Mohammedans for the violence, but the minister made no comment on this allegation.

"We will find the culprits as soon as possible," he said during the visit when he talked to affected Buddhists.

In another development, main opposition BNP leader Khaleda Zia
Three-term PM of Bangla, widow of deceased dictator Ziaur Rahman, head of the Bangla Nationalist Party, an apparent magnet for corruption ...
in a statement Monday accused the government administration of failing to protect the minority Buddhists.

She said she feared that the government may use the violence as an excuse to crack down on the opposition.

"There may be a well-planned ill motive behind the incidents," she said.

No new violence was reported on Monday.

Army soldiers, paramilitary border guards and police were deployed, and the government has banned all public gatherings in the troubled areas near the southern border with Myanmar, said Lt. Col. Jaed Hossain, a military commander who was helping to install tents for displaced Buddhists.

"They are coming back. We are giving them protection," Hossain said at Merunglua village in the coastal district of Cox's Bazar on Monday.

Home Minister Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir told news hounds in Dhaka on Monday that security officials incarcerated
Youse'll never take me alive coppers!... [BANG!]... Ow!... I quit!
166 people in Cox's Bazar and neighboring Chittagong district in connection with the attacks.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6462 views] Top|| File under: Jamaat-e-Islami

#1  Why cant Muslims cant co-exist with other religions?
Posted by: Jack Gonque5772 || 10/02/2012 12:12 Comments || Top||


Attack On Buddhists Preplanned
Yes, that is what Sudden Jihad Syndrome really means.
[Bangla Daily Star] It has all the telltale signs of a preplanned attack. A very focused operation that targeted Buddhist homes and establishments. The Moslem houses nestled between the Buddhist houses were left untouched.

The attack spanned over six hours. The attackers swept across Ramu, demolishing temples and houses neighbourhood after neighbourhood. And all this while, the role of the police and local administration remains veiled in mystery.

And, most interestingly, nobody in Ramu -- neither the Moslems nor the Buddhists -- seems to know who the attackers were. They are either telling the truth or are intentionally hiding the identities of the attackers. But one thing is sure: a large number of the attackers were brought in from outside in trucks, pickups and three-wheelers. A spontaneous spark of fury it was not.

A day after the attack on the Buddhist community by Moslems in which 12 temples were either torched or vandalised, Ramu was yesterday seeped in sheer awe, disbelief and depression.

Uttam Kumar Barua, who was tagged in some images insulting to Islam on his Facebook account, is now in police custody. Neighbours saw police taking him and his mother away at 11:30 at night after the attack started. His wooden house is now padlocked. Nobody is there anymore.

The role of the officer-in-charge of Ramu Police Station, Nazibul Islam, is questioned by everyone.

Angry people started gathering close to the Buddhist neighbourhood around 7:30pm and were openly threatening to attack the Buddhists. They marched down the roads chanting slogans and ultimately entered the neighbourhood to carry out the atrocities at around 10:30pm.

All this while, the OC did not send any coppers to guard against the attack. He came to Sima Bihar at 11:30pm and told the Buddhists to hand over Uttam, the man in question. He also assured them that nothing would happen to them and asked them to go to sleep. He promised to send his force and went away. He did not keep his promise.

Scores of witnesses confirmed this version.

But the OC claimed to The Daily Star that he came to know about the issue at 9:45pm on Saturday when a boy went to him and informed him about the photo on Uttam Kumar's Facebook account.

"I quickly went to a shop at Ramu Bazar near my office with that boy and saw the photo, which other curious people were also looking at," he said over the phone yesterday.

After that he saw a procession and a rally at Chaumuhuni. He then went there and asked the agitated people to refrain from any violence, the OC said, adding that he sent police to Uttam's house, which was locked. He later locked away
Keep yer hands where we can see 'em, if yez please!
Uttam's mother and sister from their house.

Nazibul said he had 22 police personnel under his command but on Saturday night he had only 10 to 12. Things went out of control when a large number of people came to Ramu in trucks to join the demonstrators. "There was nothing we could do to control about 10,000 demonstrators."

The signs of attack were everywhere as we entered the Buddhist neighbourhood through a narrow metalled alley. Each of the houses was fenced in with corrugated tin sheets. But what remains today are some crumpled metals.

The marauding crowd carried machetes, sticks, iron rods and tomahawks which they used on the fences. The scene is of a tornado sweeping over a settlement. And then in the middle of all this mayhem and anarchy, there stand one or two houses totally untouched. They belong to the Moslems. This only proves some local people were also involved in the attacks.

And then the main atrocity scene appeared at the monasteries. We went to Sima Bihar, a 1706 grand monastery. The main pagoda is a still smouldering heap of ash. Only a few burned out wooden poles stand lonely. Half-burnt books lie around. One page gleans "Pali alphabets in Burmese and Roman characters". Another is the jacket of a book on how to achieve nirvana.

Monks in sarong clothing stood aimlessly. They didn't know where to start their next prayers.

Buddhists were streaming in silently. They looked on in awe and wondered how somebody could be so brutal as to desecrate a place of worship so ruthlessly. Then they would file in silently to the other temple in the complex. They would lie down, stretch their hands held together and remain in that "Pranam" position. Then they would peek inside.

A huge statue of the high priest lies in a serene posture. A profound smile on his face. His body covering is half burnt. His nose broken by blows of machetes or iron rods. Statues are littered around, broken.

The spectators look on silently. Then they walk away and gather aimlessly on the ground. They look at their toes or draw doodles on the ground. There are hardly any quotes from them; their looks hollow. Suddenly they have found that their existence bears no meaning.

That is exactly what the attackers wanted. To tear out the soul from the body -- the ultimate denigration and insult to humanity. The ultimate feeling of shame and nothingness.

This is what exists in Ramu today -- a feeling of nothingness. That is the damage done. And success achieved by the perpetrators.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Jamaat-e-Islami


Home Front: WoT
House: U.S. Embassy in Libya asked for extra security, request denied
House investigators warned Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to expect a hearing into their finding that that American staff at the U.S. Embassy in Libya had their request for additional security denied by Washington officials.

“Based on information provided to the Committee by individuals with direct knowledge of events in Libya, the attack that claimed the ambassador’s life was the latest in a long line of attacks on Western diplomats and officials in Libya in the months leading up to September 11, 2012,” House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and subcommittee chairman Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, wrote Clinton today. They dismissed out-of-hand the suggestion that the attack ever could have been regarded as a spontaneous protest gone awry.

“In addition, multiple U.S. federal government officials have confirmed to the Committee that, prior to the September 11 attack, the U.S. mission in Libya made repeated requests for increased security in Benghazi,” Issa and Chaffetz added (my emphasis). “The mission in Libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in Washington.”

The committee noted 13 “security threats” in Benghazi, including an attempt to assassinate the British ambassador to Libya
Posted by: Beavis || 10/02/2012 13:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:

#1  State claims budget cuts forced them to reduce security. I say the #1 job of any executive is to prioritize spending to match funding. If security of a dangerous embassy is not the top priority then you are a piss-poor executive. You should cut your own PAY before cutting that security.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/02/2012 19:14 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Taliban will not disrupt PTI's peace march, says Imran
[Dawn] Pakistain Tehrik-e-Insaf
...a political party in Pakistan. PTI was founded by former Pakistani cricket captain and philanthropist Imran Khan. The party's slogan is Justice, Humanity and Self Esteem, each of which is open to widely divergent interpretations....
(PTI) chief Imran Khan
... aka Taliban Khan, who who convinced himself that playing cricket qualified him to lead a nuclear-armed nation with severe personality problems...
on Monday said that he has received a message from Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain (TTP) assuring that they will not disrupt the PTI's peace march towards South Wazoo, DawnNews reported.

Speaking exclusively in DawnNews' programme "Faisala Awam Ka," Khan reiterated that there is no military solution to Waziristan problem. "If the fight in Waziristan is not stopped now it will be stretched to ten more years," he added.

The PTI chief claimed that tribal people will not only be alongside the state but will also provide solution to militancy if end of the military operation is announced.

Khan said Mehsud, Burki and Bhittani
...a Pashtun tribe centered on Jandola, in Tank district. They are the hereditary enemies of the Mehsuds, unless there are furriners or infidels around, in which case they share ammunition and targeting data...
tribes of Waziristan have welcomed the peace rally. The tribal leaders had also assured the security of the participants of the rally, he added.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Police on guard as DPC holds anti-film march today
[Dawn] The picturesque provincial capital is bracing for another protest march being organised by Difa-e-Pakistain Council (DPC) today (Monday) against the blasphemous film made in US and drone strikes in tribal area of the country.

Capital city police have made elaborate arrangements to protect sensitive places and brought empty containers to be placed in front of the US Consulate late in the night to protect its building. The US diplomatic mission is situated in the cantonment area. One lane of the Khyber Road has already been blocked with containers.

The district administration has already declared the vicinity as a prohibited zone. A driver said that traffic police had impounded over 30 containers and parked them near the US consulate. A senior police officer said that security of the consulate was a major source of concern that was why additional security arrangements had been made.

The DPC, including 40 religious parties and banned outfits, has announced to take out a protest rally from Jamaat-e-Islami
...The Islamic Society, founded in 1941 in Lahore by Maulana Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, aka The Great Apostosizer. The Jamaat opposed the independence of Bangladesh but has operated an independent branch there since 1975. It maintains close ties with international Mohammedan groups such as the Moslem Brotherhood. the Taliban, and al-Qaeda. The Jamaat's objectives are the establishment of a pure Islamic state, governed by Sharia law. It is distinguished by its xenophobia, and its opposition to Westernization, capitalism, socialism, secularism, and liberalist social mores...
's provincial secretariat near Chamkani.

Syed Munawar Hassan
... The funny-looking Amir of the Pak Jamaat-e-Islami. He joined the National Students Federation (NSF), a lefty student body, and was elected its President in 1959. He came into contact with the Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba (IJT) Pakistan and studied the writings of Mawlana Syed Abul Ala Maududi, The Great Apostasizer. As a result, he joined IJT in 1960 and soon he was elected as President of its University of Karachi Unit and member of the Central Executive Council. He was Assistant Secretary General of Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistain in 1992-93, and became Secretary General in 1993. After years of holding Qazi's camel he was named Amir when the old man stepped down in 2009...
, Hafiz Muhammad Saeed
...who would be wearing a canvas jacket with very long sleeves anyplace but Pakistain...
, Maulana Mohammad Ahmad Ludhianvi and other leaders of the council would lead the rally. They would be taken to Karkhano Market adjacent to Khyber Agency in a vehicular procession where the leaders would address workers.

Organisers insist that vehicular procession would be taken through Khyber Road and as such passing through the red zone, which houses the provincial secretariat, assembly, judicial complex and security installations.

Sources said that strict security arrangements had been made in view of the Sept 21 riots which rocked Beautiful Downtown Peshawar
...capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (formerly known as the North-West Frontier Province), administrative and economic hub for the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan. Peshawar is situated near the eastern end of the Khyber Pass, convenient to the Pak-Afghan border. Peshawar has evolved into one of Pakistan's most ethnically and linguistically diverse cities, which means lots of gunfire.
. Five people were killed and around 80 maimed in the violence on the day. The mobsters also ransacked public and private properties and burnt cinema houses during the rioting. Police have procured footages of the protests and are looking for 46 suspects who allegedly ransacked properties.

District coordination officer Mohammad Javid Marwat and senior coppers held a meeting with the council's leaders at Al Markaz-e-Islami on Sunday to persuade them to change route of the march. The district administration suggested them to use Sher Shah Suri Road or Ring Road, but they (organisers) did not agree.

"We can't change the route and will protest in front of the consulate before heading to Jamrud," said Beherullah, district president of Jamaat-e-Islami.

The DCO said that the council's leaders gave a firm assurance of holding a peaceful rally. He said that the marchers would be allowed to use a single lane of Khyber Road if they insisted to pass through it.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  DPC=Taliban command!
Posted by: Jack Gonque5772 || 10/02/2012 12:16 Comments || Top||


Taliban make decision on Imran Khan's Waziristan rally
[Dawn] The banned Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain (TTP) has said that the bad boy organization has made a decision regarding cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan
... aka Taliban Khan, who is the lightweight's lightweight...
's peace march to South Wazoo; however, the decision will be announced a day before the rally actually takes place.

According to a report by the BBC Urdu on Monday, a front man for the TTP Ehsanullah Ehsan said that the decision was taken during an important meeting of the Taliban council on Saturday attended by the TTP's central leaders.

The front man said that the Taliban has made a final decision; however, he added that he was unable to disclose whether the decision was in favour of Khan's rally or against it.

Ehsanullah Ehsan, speaking to Dawn.com correspondent Zahir Shah Sherazi over telephone from Qazi's guesthouse an undisclosed location, confirmed that the banned
...the word banned seems to have a different meaning in Pakistain than it does in most other places. Or maybe it simply lacks any meaning at all...
organization
had made the decision at a meeting of its central leaders Saturday, but will announce it a day before the proposed rally.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Uh, uh, TO BEHEAD OR NOT TO BEHEAD - THAT IS THE QUESTION?

gut nuthin.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/02/2012 19:31 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
US asks Europe not to support Palestinian bid at UN
[Ma'an] The US has asked European governments not to support the PLO's bid to upgrade its status at the UN, The Guardian reported Monday.
Interesting that it's the Palestinian Liberation Organization, and not the Palestinian Authority...
In a memo seen by the UK-based newspaper, the US urged European governments "to support [US] efforts" to block the bid, and threatened "significant negative consequences" including financial sanctions if Paleostine secured an upgrade to its UN status.

President the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas
... a graduate of the prestigious unaccredited Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow with a doctorate in Holocaust Denial...
told the UN General Assembly on Thursday he would seek "observer state" membership at the world body, a downgrade from the full membership he requested last year. The 2011 bid was staunchly opposed by Israel and the US and failed to pass the Security Council.

Washington holds veto power at the Security Council but not in the 193-member General Assembly, where a vote for "observer state" membership would likely be supported.

The US memo, which was communicated to representatives of European governments, said the upgrade "would have significant negative consequences, for the grinding of the peace processor itself, for the UN system, as well as our ability to maintain our significant financial support for the Paleostinian Authority."

It noted that "observer state" membership of the UN would allow Paleostine access to the International Criminal Court
... where Milosevich died of old age before being convicted ...
. At the ICC, Paleostine could challenge Israel's settlement building, occupation and blockade on Gazoo, which breach international law.

"We hope you are willing to support our efforts ... We would appreciate knowing where your government stands on this issue. We would also be interested in knowing whether you have been approached on this matter by Paleostinian representatives," the US document said.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wait until after the elections, more flexibility?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/02/2012 0:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Sorry, not a "state".

NEXT!
Posted by: mojo || 10/02/2012 13:08 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Gaza Group Says Leader Tortured By Hamas For Firing Rockets
[Ynet] The Salafi organization "Army of the Nation", operating in the Gazoo Strip, says Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason,' security organizations tossed in the clink
Please don't kill me!
six of its activities, including its leader Ismail Hamid.

According to organization sources, Hamas interrogated and tortured Hamid, claiming he was responsible for firing rockets on Israel.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6457 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Firing rockets at your neighbors is naughty. Naughty boys and girls get punished. Civilized people learn this somewhere around elementary school. Besides, the last thing you want to do right now is annoy the Juice.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/02/2012 0:55 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran Unblocks Access To Gmail
[Ynet] Iran on Monday removed online blocks on Gmail but a government Internet filtering committee official said other, additional censorship was being prepared against YouTube, according to reports.

Internet users in Iran found themselves able to freely access their Gmail accounts for the first time since the blocks were suddenly established on September 24.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Wonder what terms Google agreed to?
Posted by: Pappy || 10/02/2012 21:34 Comments || Top||


Report: Iran Transfers $10 Billion To Syria, Creating Rift In Leadership
[Ynet] The Iranian economy is finding it difficult to cope with the economic sanctions, but the extensive financial aid to Syrian Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad
Light of the Alawites...
has not stopped -- and is creating a rift at the top of the Iranian regime.
Hugo does the same thing in Venezuela, with much the same problem...
The London-based Times newspaper reported Monday that Tehran has transferred some $10 billion in support of Assad's war against Syrian rebels. Western intelligence sources say the failure to decide the Syrian conflict in favor of Assad has caused a split between Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and Iran's spymaster in the past 14 years, Qassem Suleimani.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  By my rough calculation that will fund the war for 4 months.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/02/2012 0:35 Comments || Top||

#2  But who is on which side, and why? Inquiring minds want to know. No help at the link.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/02/2012 6:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Oddly, when looking for more information, I find this - [Ynet] The Iranian economy is finding it difficult to cope with the economic sanctions, but the extensive financial aid to Syrian Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad Light of the Alawites... has not stopped -- and is creating a... Full Article at Rantburg

Full article at Rantburg!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/02/2012 6:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah, I would think that a $10b giveaway from a financially strapped regime would cause a rift within said regime. Is it really worth fighting a proxy war when you can't really afford it?
Posted by: American Delight || 10/02/2012 6:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Times, quoting a Western intelligence source, said “Suleimani promised Khamenei that he would turn the situation in Syria around and has failed to deliver.”

Link

But you gotta subscribe to see the original Times article.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/02/2012 6:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Let's hope Syria is getting paid in Rials.
Posted by: Raj || 10/02/2012 10:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Sorry - just saw the other post below on the Rial - I spotted that one on Zero Hedge yesterday...
Posted by: Raj || 10/02/2012 10:38 Comments || Top||

#8  By my rough calculation that will fund the war for 4 months

If it is used by the Syrian government. If it's been transferred for use by Al Quds Force (or Hesb'allah), then it may last much longer.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/02/2012 12:06 Comments || Top||

#9  There's no doubt that Qassem Suleimani is the guy in the "pressure cooker" right now. Things aren't going his way. Regular people on the internet complain about Netanyahu and the Israelis starting a ME war - but it's more likely to be triggered by Suleimani.

So what's his "best" move right now? He's under pressure - gotta' get results. One possible move is that he teams up with Al Qaeda and helps them stage big attacks against America before the Nov election. That kind of joint operation would pit Al Quds and AQ against America. Possible targets??? Maybe US embassies in places like Pakistan, Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan. Maybe trains, hotels, tourist spots in Asia and Europe.
Posted by: Raider || 10/02/2012 12:41 Comments || Top||

#10  Raider, the Iranians have been organizing themselves near our southern border for the last few years if I recall correctly, and occasionally some of their people get caught sneaking in with the Mexicans. Before that, there was the occasional report of an Iranian uniform found in our deserts. The concern is not so much things happening out there, as I understand it, as things happening here at home, coordinated with the citizenry up around Detroit and such. A quick google of "Hizbullah in Mexico" will give you a starting place.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 13:30 Comments || Top||


Ban Urges Syria to Show 'Compassion' to Its People
[An Nahar] U.N. chief the ephemeral Ban Ki-moon
... of whom it can be said to his credit that he is not Kofi Annan...
called Monday on the Syrian government to show "compassion" to its people in the midst of an increasingly vicious civil war against armed rebels.

Ban said after a meeting with the Syrian foreign minister at U.N. headquarters in New York that it was time for Damascus
...Capital of the last remaining Baathist regime in the world...
to lower the scale of its offensive against the insurgency.

"He stressed that it was the Syrian people who were being killed every day and appealed to the government of Syria to show compassion to its own people," a front man for the U.N. secretary general said.

Ban "raised in the strongest terms the continued killings, massive destruction, human rights
...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions...
abuses, and aerial and artillery attacks committed by the government," the front man said.

"He expressed deep frustration that, after 19 months of repression and fighting, the situation was still getting worse."

The U.N. chief also said that the growing refugee and humanitarian crisis was spilling into neighboring countries "to an alarming degree."
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria


Muallem Tells U.N. Syria Still Believes in 'Political Solution'
[An Nahar] Syria's foreign minister accused the United States and its allies Monday of supporting terrorism in Syria but said his government remains open to a political settlement of its civil war.

Speaking to the U.N. General Assembly in New York, Foreign Minister Walid Muallem said La Belle France, Qatar, Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in their national face...
, Turkey and the United States "clearly induce and support terrorism in Syria with money, weapons and imported muscle."

However,
the hip bone's connected to the leg bone...
he also said that Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad
Horror of Homs...
is open to reforms if the violence stops. "We still believe in a political solution as an essential way out of the crisis," he said.

For this to happen, he said U.N. members should press for an end to the "arming, financing, harboring and training of terrorist groups."

Washington and many of its allies accuse Syria's government of mass human rights
...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions...
abuses in the ongoing struggle to put down the armed rebellion.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria


STL Defense 2nd Bid to Declare Tribunal Illegal
[An Nahar] The Special Tribunal for Leb's Appeals Chamber kicked off on Monday a second open hearing to hear the appeal against the decision on the jurisdiction and the legality of the Tribunal.

The Trial Chamber dismissed on July 27 the four Defense motions challenging the jurisdiction and legality of the Tribunal.

Suspect Mustafa Badreddine's lead counsel Antoine Korkmaz said that Leb failed to sign on the decision to establish the Tribunal.

He noted that the legality of establishing the Tribunal is linked to its jurisdiction.

The Hizbullah members, accused of being involved in the February 2005 attack that killed former Premier Rafik Hariri, Salim Ayyash, Badreddine, Hussein Oneissi and Assad Sabra remain on the lam.

Korkomaz argued that the U.N. Security Council has no legal power to establish the STL, thus it abused its powers when it adopted resolution 1757 in 2005.

He insisted that Lebanese justice should try the four suspects rather than the Netherlands-based Special Tribunal for Leb.

The liquidation of "Hariri could not in any sense be considered to pose a threat to international peace and security," he said.

However,
today is that tomorrow you were thinking about yesterday...
STL Vice President Lebanese Judge Ralf Riachi pointed out that the Tribunal has continuously announced that it has no jurisdiction in monitoring the decisions taken by the U.N. Security Council.

Korkomaz considered in his argument that the 2005 attack is considered a "political liquidation" and not an "international crime," noting that the decision to establish the STL was approved by only 10 members at the Security Council.

"Terrorism is not an international crime for which you can set up an international criminal tribunal," he said, noting that no special tribunal was set up to try those behind the September 11, 2001 attacks in the U.S.

The STL announced in July that the trial would provisionally start on March 25 next year.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah


Iran Currency Tumbles 17% in One Day to New Low
[An Nahar] Iran's currency plummeted at least 17 percent in trading on Monday, according to media and an online exchange website, severely adding to strains on the Islamic republic's sanctions-hit economy.

The currency, the rial, weakened to 34,700 to the dollar by the end of the day's trading, according to the Mesghal.com website, a drop of 17 percent compared to the previous day's rate of 29,600.

The Mehr news agency said the rial fell 18 percent to 35,000.

The rial has lost more than 80 percent of its value compared with the end of last year, when it was worth 13,000 to the dollar.

Visitors to the money-changing area in central Tehran said registered dealers were no longer selling dollars in their shops, leaving the market to informal traders in the street -- a situation resulting in dollars becoming scarce and thus much more expensive.

Iran is suffering heightened geopolitical tensions over its nuclear program and the effects of draconian Western economic sanctions curbing access to its reduced oil exports.

It also is burdened with high inflation and rising unemployment.

The rial's plunge on Monday was largely censored online.

Websites that usually give real-time currency data, such as Mazanex.com, had the dollar rate for the rial blanked out. The Iranian-hosted version of Mesghal (mesghal.ir) disappeared half-way through the day to be replaced with the message "Account Suspended".

The fall sent a shock through Iranian companies.

"It's a disaster," a manager of a business in Iran's import sector told Agence La Belle France Presse on condition of anonymity. "One business lady was really crying, she was losing millions of dollars."

The Fars news agency said money changers in Tehran were hoarding dollars.

"We do not know what will happen in the coming days, we do not know what the government will do," it quoted one money changer saying.

The official news agency IRNA quoted a front man for Iran's money changers' association, Nosrat Ezzati, as saying the latest rates for the rial "are artificial as no real exchange is happening in the market."
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6459 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  What does the loss of value with respect to the dollar do to the average Persian? Why would the cost of staples go up?

Imported products costs would go up, I get that. Gasoline goes up, and it's used to move staples, so there is an indirect effect.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/02/2012 7:09 Comments || Top||

#2  If you purchased non-imported raw goods at, say, 100 rials yesterday, would you be willing to sell them for 83 today?

of course, you could always make up for it in volume....right?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2012 8:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Why would the cost of staples go up?
Bobby, probably wont for the average Iranian. Iran built enough refining capacity to satisfy home demand. Exported oil is mainly crude. The price of oil is heavily subsidized.
Iran grows its own food and rents are not affected.
Probably the main things they will miss out on are the latest iPads and other gizmos.
Posted by: tipper || 10/02/2012 8:21 Comments || Top||

#4  The race to the currency basement between the Theocracy and Bernanke is interesting. Give the edge to the Fed to create more magical money with creative algorithms and computers.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/02/2012 9:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Any imported items, like those from Europe and China, will keep steadily rising. It's gotta' be eating away at the budgets of Iranian families.
Posted by: Raider || 10/02/2012 9:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Approaching "butt-wipe" territory.
Posted by: mojo || 10/02/2012 15:22 Comments || Top||

#7  The US + Iran are competing to see whom will be the first to collapse vee the POST-1918/VERSAILLES WEIMAR REPUBLIC OF GERMANY???

* OTOH DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > IRAN TRANSFERS $10.0BILYUHN TO SYRIA, to bolster Baby Assad's fight agz the Rebs. Defectors from Assad claim that its Iran that has been paying wages of the Syrian Army, not Assad???

Thats $10.0Bilyuhn Iran's financial markets or strategic reserves could've used.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/02/2012 22:30 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Terror Twitter
A group of lawmakers has asked the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to order Twitter to remove from the micro-blogging site the accounts of multiple U.S.-designated terrorist groups--and has warned that Twitter's failure to do so could be a violation of U.S. law.

Twitter hosts scores of Muslim clerics and organizations, including al Qaeda, designated by the U.S. Department of the Treasury as "terrorists." The groups use the micro-blogging site to recruit extremists and distribute radical materials, according to the lawmakers, who petitioned FBI Director Robert Mueller to crack down on these illegal virtual activities.

By providing material support to these organizations in the form of a communications platform, Twitter is illegally allowing a once-disjointed community of anti-American religious extremists to coordinate, recruit, and hone their terrorist activities online, potentially posing a risk to the U.S. and its interests abroad, the lawmakers and other experts maintained.

"Twitter maintains that it will take down any account requested by the FBI," seven Republican members of Congress wrote to the FBI last month. "As of this writing, the FBI has not made a single request to Twitter to take an account down."

These various extremist accounts have thousands of loyal followers across the globe.

"U.S. designated terrorists continue to use an American company to spread its propaganda to the world, encouraging violence and garnering new recruits to continue the cycle of violence that kills innocent civilians around the world," states the congressional letter, which was spearheaded by Rep. Ted Poe (R., Texas), a member of the House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

Most puzzling to some observers is Twitter's apparent apathy about the matter.

Since its inception in 2006, Twitter has not shut down a single "jihadi or terrorist organization's account," according to the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), which tracks, translates, and codifies terrorist groups' online presence.
Posted by: Omerong Angeregum8930 || 10/02/2012 12:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6458 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Culture Wars
Dearborn Muslims rally against the 1st Amendment
Moved to War on Terror - Politics. Demanding special privileges for Islam is the soft jihad of the law.

trailing wife at 2:12 ET
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/02/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6461 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Back to the 'old country' with all of youse...
Posted by: Raj || 10/02/2012 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  No sh**T. If it's gonna come to this, take your legal system back to your hell home from whence it came. We have enough alien law here.
Posted by: newc || 10/02/2012 0:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like I need to start celebrating TGIF by amping up my car stereo and haning out in a near by parking lot next to a mosque, with my favorite Charley Pride cd playing, enjoying pork rinds and beer, while I watch these nuts banging their heads against the ground and at the same time sticking thier butts way up in the air during Friday prayers to a lieing false prophet who successfully created a false moon god.

Just saying more of what they can't stand to hear...
Posted by: Slineng Turkeyneck1815 || 10/02/2012 1:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Can't wait for them to bring their bullshit into the countryside!
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 10/02/2012 6:30 Comments || Top||

#5  That whole God And Guns Thing comes to mind how would it apply here?
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 10/02/2012 6:31 Comments || Top||

#6  The irony is that whole 1st amendment thing allows them to rally against it.

They can rally to their heart's content as far as I'm concerned. In fact I support and encourage it. Keeps in view what is being preached behind closed doors and keeps in mind that these people are not friends of the USA.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/02/2012 9:48 Comments || Top||

#7  They should be very VERY careful for what they wish for.
Posted by: Ptah || 10/02/2012 10:18 Comments || Top||

#8  so you won't need thr 4th amendment either, right?
Posted by: Herman Floting1000 || 10/02/2012 10:53 Comments || Top||

#9  Our own Gaza strip and West Bank right here in the U.S. Next we will be seeing the RPGs, AKs, and the carbeques coming out during their protests.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/02/2012 11:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Another example of our Champ leading from behind. He must be very proud of his Dearbornistan colony.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/02/2012 11:10 Comments || Top||

#11  Not being able to speak ill of the church reminds me of 1500 A.D. (more or less) in Europe. So that's about right - 600 years behind the Christians.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/02/2012 11:11 Comments || Top||

#12  You know that an immigrant to become a citizen they have to take an oath [yeah, like that means anything anymore except when those who have power need to hammer someone] -

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

...sounds like some revoking may be in order.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/02/2012 12:08 Comments || Top||

#13  My initial response is "This is America. F**k all y'all!", but in the interests of civilized, well-reasoned discourse, let me paraphrase a Texas slogan: Welcome to America. Remember how it was where you came from? We don't do that here.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/02/2012 12:43 Comments || Top||

#14  That whole God And Guns Thing comes to mind how would it apply here?

It would not apply, Angiting Snore1647. Speech is not properly answered by violence, though illegal speech may be answered by law enforcement.

Also, for future reference, at Rantburg we do not discuss acting violently against residents of the United States, nor against the duly elected politicians if allied nations, there being a big difference between that which we are able to do and that which it is lawful to do.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2012 12:59 Comments || Top||

#15  The core of 'free speech' is to NOT answer speech with violence, threats or intimidation. Even then, competent legal authorities disapprove of shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater, and I'm fine with that.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/02/2012 13:23 Comments || Top||

#16  >competent legal authorities disapprove of shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater
THAT'S NOT ON FIRE.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/02/2012 16:03 Comments || Top||

#17  This will not end well, but end it will.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/02/2012 16:06 Comments || Top||

#18  These Muslims are peacefully exercising their free speech rights to express their support for a political cause.

The makers of 'Innocence of Muslims' were and are peacefully exercising their free speech rights to express their political and philosophical opinions.

In my opinion the Detroit demonstrator's objective, the abolition of free speech, is crude, disgusting, reprehensible and bigoted.

Obama and Clinton applied the same adjectives to 'Innocence of Muslims.' Yet so far they've not commented on the Detroit demonstrations.

Does their silence indicate a level of approval of the Detroit Muslims' demands?
What about other US and Western politicians who condemned 'Innocence of Muslims'?
Posted by: Angailet Phorong7835 || 10/02/2012 16:58 Comments || Top||

#19  The only thing that needs to happen to these people is that they should be pointed and laughed at. Now if they riot, all bets are off but peaceful 'protests' are really just a source of never ending amusement.

Posted by: Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division || 10/02/2012 21:24 Comments || Top||



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