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Afghanistan
A Change in Mission
Lt. Arthur Karell and his Marine battalion were sent to Now Zad, Afghanistan, to train Afghan police. Instead, they had to fight the insurgents who had taken over the town.

"Fix bayonets."

Not long after giving that order, 1st Lt. Arthur Karell was hunched in a dirt trench crowded with Marines. The hushed darkness bristled with eight-inch blades fitted beneath the barrels of dozens of M-16 assault rifles.

You fix bayonets when you expect to need the aggressive combat mind-set that's produced by the primal sight of massed blades. You fix them when you expect to search hidden places. You fix them when you expect the fight could push you within arm's reach of your enemy -- gutting distance. In modern warfare, that's extraordinarily rare.

The problem was, Karell didn't know what to expect. He was from Arlington. He'd traveled the world. This place, though, was like nowhere he'd ever been. The 2nd Battalion of the 7th Marine Regiment had deployed to Afghanistan last spring to train Afghan police. But when Karell's platoon arrived in Now Zad, the largest town in a remote northern district of Helmand province, they'd rolled into a ghost town. ...
Posted by: ed || 06/21/2009 00:14 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [276 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Interesting Article.

opium poppy production exploded -- drug money bankrolling the violence. The United Nations estimates Afghanistan now produces more than 90 percent of the world's illicit opium, the raw ingredient in heroin. Half comes from Helmand, one of Afghanistan's biggest and most fertile provinces. Helmand should be this hungry country's breadbasket
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/21/2009 2:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, expect the worst, I'd say.
Posted by: Uloluns Scourge of the Bunions1692 || 06/21/2009 5:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Afghanistan actually used to export wheat to the region, once upon a time.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/21/2009 10:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Solid article. Washington Post - surprise. Kristin Henderson, a reporter to watch for.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/21/2009 12:32 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
U.S. calls on S. Korea to deploy troops to Afghanistan
SEOUL, June 20 (Yonhap) -- South Korean President Lee Myung-bak said Saturday his country can consider deploying peace-keeping troops to Afghanistan in response to a U.S. proposal at summit talks early this week. Lee said his U.S. counterpart, President Barack Obama, asked him to send troops to the war-torn country, according to Park Sun-young, spokeswoman of the minor opposition Liberty Forward Party.

"Dispatching combat troops may be impossible, but we can consider sending peace-keeping forces to Afghanistan," he was quoted as saying.
After all, the combat troops may soon be needed at home.
South Korea withdrew its 200-strong team of medics and engineers from Afghanistan in 2007, ending several years of deployment under the U.S.-led war against terrorism.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [276 views] Top|| File under:

#1  then we can withdraw our forces from SK.
Posted by: Frank G || 06/21/2009 8:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Ummm, not right now, 'k? As TW notes, they may be needed.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 10:27 Comments || Top||

#3  ION KOREAS, CHINESE MIL FORUM > NORTH KOREA CRITICIZES US NUCLEAR PROTECTION OF SOUTH [ claims Obama's statement proves POTUS BAMMER = USA is planning atomic war agz NOKOR.

POSTER > NORTH KOREA HAS YET TO REACH [PLA] DF-5 ICBM POWER AND ACCURACY.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/21/2009 19:04 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Bill would boost congressional oversight of covert spy programs
Washington -- Criticized for failing to challenge the intelligence operations of the Bush administration, key lawmakers have endorsed a bill that would force the president to make fuller disclosure of covert spy programs.
Not necessarily a bad idea as long as the representatives who are entrusted to hear the information can keep their mouths shut and not blab confidentially to the New York Ti ... oh, what am I saying?
The legislation approved by the House Intelligence Committee late Thursday would eliminate the president's ability to keep classified operations secret from any member of the panel, according to Democrats who described the provision. The measure was included in a broad intelligence spending bill that also would expand funding for spy agencies and require the CIA to videotape its interrogations of terrorism suspects.
Because the CIA can trust the all the members if the House of Representatives to guard their backs.
Democrats described the measure as an important effort to bolster congressional oversight of intelligence activities. Rep. Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas), chairman of the intelligence panel, said the bill would "have wide-ranging consequences for the way the committee conducts its business." But Republicans voted against the measure.
Good move, House Republicans!
Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the ranking Republican on the panel, said he favored a proposal last year that would have allowed the president to restrict briefings on sensitive topics with the permission of the top Democrat and Republican on the committee.

The debate centers on the controversial practice of restricting intelligence briefings to the "Gang of Eight," a group that includes the party leaders of the House and Senate, as well as the ranking Democrat and Republican on each intelligence committee.

The language adopted by the House committee Thursday would strike a provision in the nation's main intelligence statute that allows restricted briefings. Instead, the president would be obligated to inform all 15 members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, as well as their 22 counterparts in the House. The bill calls for the committee to draft procedures that would allow restricted briefings under special circumstances.

"If this provision becomes law, Gang of Eight briefings will either be eliminated or very much restricted," said a Democratic congressional aide familiar with the legislation. The measure has yet to be considered by the full House.

Lawmakers complained bitterly that the Bush administration routinely withheld information from members as a way of reducing their ability to scrutinize or challenge controversial programs, including CIA interrogations and electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens.

Even so, records indicate that lawmakers who were informed of controversial operations raised few objections. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) was accused of hypocrisy by Republicans this year for criticizing the CIA's interrogation methods, because even though she did nothing appears to have done little to intervene after she was briefed on aspects of the program in 2002.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [370 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm sure that the New York Times will be happy. Covert operations make good page one stories.
Posted by: DMFD || 06/21/2009 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  a bill that would force the president to make fuller disclosure of covert spy programs.

I like it when the articles are self-snarking, but it does seem a bit like cheating.
Posted by: SteveS || 06/21/2009 0:30 Comments || Top||

#3  There goes any incentive to run any sort of risky op.

1) Congress leaks like a sieve so it will be compromised.

2) If you manage to hide it from Congress you are probably going to break the new law.

Why not simply disband the CIA's operations bureau? It would be a lot more direct and accomplis the same thing.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/21/2009 1:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Insecure lot, aren't they?
Posted by: gorb || 06/21/2009 3:38 Comments || Top||

#5  IMO, given who's the President, it's all smart.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/21/2009 4:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Congressional "oversight" is a minsnomer. What actually happens is the oversighters generally end up in the chop-chain either directly or indirectly approving, delaying with endless questions and deposition, or terminating projects as reported to them by 30 year old tweeb, aspiring staffers. All sense of urgency is lost and after a few skirmishes the initiating agency or department backs off, assumes benign role, and waits to be blamed for the next intelligence failure.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 7:52 Comments || Top||

#7  Why not simply disband the CIA's operations bureau? It would be a lot more direct and accomplis the same thing.

Clearly that is the ultimate intention. But done this way when the negative consequences become apparent, no one can be held responsible for having shut Ops down. But then, I'd just shut the whole thing down and let the DoD do the job.
Posted by: Snakes Glase2906 || 06/21/2009 8:20 Comments || Top||

#8  Another lesson of 9/11 unlearned.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/21/2009 8:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Quite correct Snakes. Official project 'termination' can rarely be attributed to the oversight bureaucrats. Endless delays and re-looks just run out the clock and make render the entire effort meaningless.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 8:43 Comments || Top||

#10  I remember (all quotations below paraphrased), in the Clinton days, that Bill was anguishing over a proposed CIA op to pinch someone (can't remember who, but he was a turban of some kind). Back and forth, back and forth went the arguments in the Oval Office. Bill couldn't decide.

Al Gore walks in, they brief him, and Bill asks Al what he would do.

Al says, "Approve the op. Let the CIA grab him."

Some staffer says, "But that would be illegal under international law!"

And Al replies, "That's why you have the CIA grab him."
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 10:33 Comments || Top||

#11  Handcuffs and shackles weren't enough to restrain the CIA, balls and chains are needed.
Posted by: Willy || 06/21/2009 12:05 Comments || Top||

#12  Sounds like a Frank Church moment.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/21/2009 17:21 Comments || Top||

#13  Still in the 9/10 world, the lot of them.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/21/2009 21:43 Comments || Top||

#14  I would support this bill if it included a clause that specified the immediate death penalty for any member of the congress, their staff, acquaintances, or whatever, if they leaked even a hint of any of the programs.
Having the story published in the New York Times would be prima facie evidence that the crime had been committed. Anyone on the list of those briefed on the program would be suspect.
Who am I kidding? They would probably read the details of any program they didn't like into the Congressional Record, or maybe an op-ed in the NYT.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 06/21/2009 22:23 Comments || Top||

#15  ". Rep. Silvestre Reyes "....

This would be the guy who didn't know the3 difference between Sunni & Shi'ite.... oh yeah, let's give him more oversight responsibilities.....
Posted by: Heriberto Glomorong1155 || 06/21/2009 23:19 Comments || Top||


Some Gitmo Detainees Resist Move to Palau
WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration's drive to close the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has hit a new snag: At least some of the 13 detainees accepted for resettlement by the island nation of Palau don't want to go there.
Palauans are icky!
I can only imagine the first reaction of the Ugglies when they were told they'd be going to Palau: "where???"
Meanwhile, protests have erupted in Bermuda over its recent resettlement of four Uighur detainees, with the country's leader facing a no-confidence vote by his parliament.
Uighurs are icky!
Dissent in the British island territory, which sits in the Atlantic Ocean east of North Carolina, came after Bermuda's acceptance of the men strained relations with London, which complained that the island's home-rule government failed to advise it about the decision.

Palau, a tiny South Pacific country, seemed to offer a potential solution to a problem that has vexed the Bush and Obama administrations since the Defense Department began clearing 22 Uighurs from China for release, after deciding they were erroneously deemed enemy combatants in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
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Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [301 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I understand that the ACLU has agreed to a transfer to Tahiti. Or Long Island.
Posted by: Highlander || 06/21/2009 12:10 Comments || Top||

#2  it's summer. send em to the Hamptons
Posted by: Frank G || 06/21/2009 15:14 Comments || Top||

#3  "You cannot be a Palauan citizen unless you have Palauan blood.

Solid plan... until the place is overrun and citizenship no longer means anything.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 15:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Send them to the Rat Islands in the Aleutians. They will be right at home.
Posted by: Alaska Paul back home || 06/21/2009 19:11 Comments || Top||


Local Kaua'i Coverage of the Prep for Kimmie's 4th of July Present
Kaua'i is in Hawai'i. So naturally they are quite concerned about North Korean missiles arriving in the near future.
Posted by: Mercutio || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ION KOREAS, WORLD MIL FORUM [GOOGLE Transl.] > IIUC JAPANESE MEDIA: NORTH KOREA MAY BE DIFFICULT/NOT SO EASY FOR JAPAN TO BEAT. JAPAN MAY HAVE TO FORMALLY WITHDRAW FROM THE US-JAPAN DEFENSE ALLIANCE IN ORDER TO TRULY PROTECT ITSELF FROM NORTH KOREAN MISSLE, NUCLEAR STRIKES. NOKOR has approxi 30 mobile launchers and 200 VARIOUS SCUD-BASED MISSLES whilst Japan has none - in order to protect itself from a potens NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA, JAPAN may have to attempt to search-and-destroy these preemptively by covertly sending large teams of COMMANDOES into NOKOR [several 00 minima]. UNLESS IN SELF-DEFENSE AGZ A NOKOR FIRST-STRIKE, TREATY > US + JAPANESE AIRCRAFT ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER NOKOR OR CHINESE AIRSPACE.

* SAME > SECOND KOREAN WAR WILL GIVE CHINA AN EXCUSE TO FORCIBLY TAKE OVER AND FORMALLY ANNEX NORTH KOREA INTO CHINA; + UNTIL THE DEPLOYMENT OF F22's AND FOLLOW-ON, ETC. ADVANCED AIRCRAFT TO GUAM, USAF STRENGTH IN WESTPAC AND ASIA-PACIFIC WAS ACTUALLY QUITE WEAK DUE TO THE OVER-AGE OF ITS COLD-WAR ERA, PRE_9-11, FRONTLINE COMBAT AND COMBAT SUPPORT PLANES [F15's, F16's, C-130's, B52's, B-1's, even B-2's etal]. IT MAY TAKE ANOTHER FIVE YEARS [2012, 2012-2015 r.o] FOR THE USAF TO TRULY ACHIEVE COLD WAR-STYLE AIR SUPERIORITY/DOMIANCE IN ASIA-PACIFIC AGZ CHINA'S RISING PLAN, PLAAF AIR FORCES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 06/21/2009 19:39 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Intrusion: US military cargo plane flies out
A US-hired military cargo plane that intruded into Indian airspace and was forced to land at Mumbai [ Images ], took off for Kandahar in Afghanistan on Saturday following government clearance after a 24-hour detention.

The External Affairs Ministry and the IAF in the capital approved the AN-124 aircraft's flight plan designating it as a foreign military cargo aircraft at 1530 hours and it flew out at 2240 hours, IAF spokesperson Wing Commander T K Singha told PTI in New Delhi.

The US military had hired the Russian company Volga Dnepr-owned AN-124 to carry military medical recovery vehicles and medical aid equipment to its troops engaged in anti-Taliban operations in Afghanistan from its military base in Diego Garcia, an island in the Indian Ocean.

"The AN-124 had obtained Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) clearance with a mandatory Air Operations Routine (AOR) authority to fly as a foreign civilian aircraft, but later switched to US military call sign while entering Pakistani airspace. Hence, the IAF immediately activated its air defence mechanism and forced the plane to land," Singha said.

The Ukrainian Antonov-make world's largest transport aircraft with NATO code name Condor, which had been operating on the same flight plan for the last few days, had goofed up by using a civilian transport aircraft call sign VDA 4466 while in Indian airspace, IAF officials said.

However, it switched to military call sign REACH 813 while entering Pakistani airspace, which attracted the suspicions of the IAF's air defence units, they said.

"Since obtaining military clearance for using Indian airspace by foreign military aircraft is cumbersome, it has to go through Ministry of External Affairs, Intelligence agencies and then IAF. The operator resorted to the short-cut of obtaining a DGCA clearance as a civilian aircraft," an official said.

On Friday night, the unscheduled AN-124, with 18 persons on board, repeated the flight plan and entered the Indian airspace around 1730 hours.

Around 2000 hours, as it was nearing the Pakistani airspace, it changed its call sign. Immediately, the IAF's air defence Movement Liaison Unit in Mumbai activated its standard operating procedures and through Air Traffic Control radio calls forced the aircraft captain, Vladimir Ustelemov, to land it at the Chatrapati Shivaji International airport at 2240 hours.

No IAF fighters were scrambled to escort the aircraft as it clearly followed ATC radio calls to land, Singha said. After Indian authorities carried out a thorough check on the aircraft and its crew members, the US and Russian embassies in New Delhi approached the MEA and obtained fresh AOR authority with a defence clearance for it to fly out, IAF officials said.

"The US has admitted that it was a mistake of the operator from whom they had hired the aircraft not to have obtained a military clearance in the first place from the Indian authorities," they said.
Posted by: john frum || 06/21/2009 07:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [291 views] Top|| File under:

#1  http://livefist.blogspot.com/
It has been confirmed that the US-chartered An-124 which was intercepted and grounded in Mumbai last night has on board the following items: Two Stryker armoured combat vehicles, an uncomfirmed number of BGM-71 TOW anti-tank munitions, M242 gun ammunition, a consignment of explosive reactive armour tiles for US armoured vehicles and a large consignment of helicopter/aircraft spares, ancillaries and aggregates.
Posted by: john frum || 06/21/2009 7:51 Comments || Top||

#2  ...I can believe that loadout. A while back I flew into Charleston (SC) International Airport and there were TWO of those monsters on the ground on the USAF side of the field. They were standing taller than the C-5s and C-17s there.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 06/21/2009 9:34 Comments || Top||


Pakistan’s ‘Invisible Refugees’ Burden Cities
MARDAN, Pakistan -- The Khan family made it through Taliban rule, a military offensive and the three-day journey to this crowded city. But after more than a month of living together -- 75 people, three rooms, one bathroom -- they might not survive one another.

"This is a test for us," said Akhtar Jan, a mother of four who is part of the extended family. "If we don't smile, we would be dead from crying."

Pakistan is experiencing its worst refugee crisis since partition from India in 1947, and while the world may be familiar with the tent camps that have rolled out like carpets since its operation against the Taliban started in April, the overwhelming majority of the nearly three million people who have fled live unseen in houses and schools, according to aid agencies.
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Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [394 views] Top|| File under:

#1  uh, these people need support from citizens here, hospitality is going to need to extend across international boundaries immediatly
Posted by: 746 || 06/21/2009 21:41 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Sadr City back in Iraqi forces hands
[Iran Press TV Latest] The US military hands over the control of a security base to Iraqi forces some 10 days ahead of the schedule set for American troops to withdraw from Iraqi towns and cities.

The Saturday hand over of the Joint Security Station in Sadr City comes, while according to a November interim agreement between Baghdad and Washington, the US must withdraw its forces from urban areas by June 30.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al- Maliki hailed the move on Saturday, saying that the withdrawal from the cities by the end of the month would be regarded as a "great victory" for the Iraqi nation.

"It is a great victory for Iraqis as we are going to take our first step toward ending the foreign presence in Iraq," he said.

The premier, however, warned that the militants and extremists are plotting to take advantage of the transition and initiate more attacks in the country. "They (the militants) are preparing to move in the dark to destabilize the situation, but we will be ready for them," Maliki said.

Iraqi officials say the US will pull out some 12,000 troops by the end of September. Currently, the United States has some 140,000 troops stationed in the country. A full withdrawal of American forces is scheduled to take place by 2011.
Posted by: Fred || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [280 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Carter helping Hamas open talks with White House
Posted by: Slaique Elmirong3430 || 06/21/2009 13:57 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [397 views] Top|| File under:

#1  worst.president.ever.til now
Posted by: Frank G || 06/21/2009 14:47 Comments || Top||

#2  A November 1980 story I never tire of reading.
Link
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 14:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Besoeker, my sincere hope that is that in November 2012, we will read another story just like that one.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 06/21/2009 15:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Mine as well. I'll drive up and we'll have a big steak at the Hunter's Head in U'Ville. I'll even pick up the damages.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 15:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Carter helping Hamas

Yup, yup, uh huh. Nothin' new here.
Posted by: Parabellum || 06/21/2009 17:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Will this guy ever die...from natural causes of course. But seriously, he is way past his STFU date.
Posted by: Omeamble Johnson5823 || 06/21/2009 18:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Carter missed the bus a long time ago.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/21/2009 19:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Carter is a good, conscientious, hard working fellow---for his Arab benefactors. Follow the money to his foundation.
Posted by: Alaska Paul back home || 06/21/2009 19:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Carter is an idiot. I don't know why anyone listens to him on any subject ... except maybe for idiot classes.
Posted by: crosspatch || 06/21/2009 22:07 Comments || Top||


Ring tone sectarians mix it up in Gaza
Baraa, an 11-year-old boy, was building a sandy castle on Gaza city's beach, when a ringing mobile at the adjacent summer vacationist's tent caught his attention. "Fatah ... mother of free nations, keep your flags higher," rang the bell of the mobile. Baraa dusted the sand off his hands and dashed to his mother, whispering: "Mom, our neighbors are Fatah members! I heard their mobile."

His 38-year-old mother Om Baraa was startled at these remarks, wondering how such a little boy knew about political affiliations. She came to enjoy the beach with her sister and four children on Friday, but it seemed there was nowhere to avoid political concerns. "Many young people have their mobile phones set with bells defining their political identities. Now even our children are able to distinguish who belongs to which group," said Om Baraa. Baraa's experience is common among households in the Hamas- ruled Gaza Strip. When a mobile starts ringing, people usually can interpret the owner's political stance, or whether the person is politically affiliated.

At the Islamic university campus in Gaza city, student Abdel Karim Saleh prefers to use the most popular Hamas songs as his mobile bell. "Welcome Qassam hawk, welcome Hamasniks. Settler is no longer able to sleep, sure escape, one hundred percent." Another student Rami Zidan said: "most of the students choose their mobile ringing tones to present their political affiliations, If you want to know anyone's (political) identity, just call him." Salma Mushtaha admitted that her mobile bears a spate of ringing tones, individualized for each of her family members. "My eldest brother belongs to Hamas, while my other two brothers to Fatah and Islamic Jihad, so I had to set up different bells for them," she said.

Inside one mobile store in Gaza, Samer Al Shawa, another student from the city, refused to load his mobile with Hamas songs, and asked the technician to replace them with Fatah ones. "I simply want my mobile to be Fatah in tones and themes," he said decisively. The shop owner Khaled Jibril said most of his customers selected their mobile bells according to their political beliefs and affiliations.

The 1.5 million Gaza Strip population might be the people, who are most interested in politics in the world, Jibril said. "Their private properties, such as mobile phones, the keys of their cars and doors, and their notepads, bear the sign of their political concerns." In Gaza, however, ringing tones are not always linked with political affiliations. They also reflect other global and local incidents. Some people devote their ringing tones to advocating Prophet Muhammad of Moslems, while some show support to al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, and others call for the national unity between Fatah and Hamas.

Ola Muhanna, the student at Al Azhar University of Gaza, said bells bearing political identities can be annoying, especially when people use it to tease others. "However, political and national tones are much better than rude songs which carry an offense towards Islam or Arabs," she said.
Posted by: ryuge || 06/21/2009 08:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the clever Juice should hack the system and download ringt*nes to unwitting Paleos...can you imagine during Friday "Death to Juice" Prayers, when "Hava Nagila" rings out?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/21/2009 9:09 Comments || Top||

#2  heh - found another Fred-filter word
Posted by: Frank G || 06/21/2009 9:10 Comments || Top||


Al-Maliki: Israeli settlements blocking progress
[Iran Press TV Latest] Contrary to Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's claim, his Palestinian counterpart believes that Israeli settlement activities are the 'main obstacle' to the peace process.
Of course he does.
"Everyone knows that settlement activities are the basic obstacle and the Israelis are trying to change the facts on the ground," the Palestinian Authority's Foreign Affairs Minister Riyadh al-Maliki said in a statement on Saturday. He made the comment a day after Lieberman claimed that "Settlements are not an obstacle to achieving peace."

"Lieberman has a twisted vision and analysis about the settlements' issue," al-Maliki added, explaining that settlement expansion was part of a larger Israeli plan to occupy Palestinian land.

Despite Lieberman's claim, the construction of settlements has always been a sticking point in talks between Palestinian and Israeli officials.

US President Barack Obama has called for a halt to settlement activities which are ongoing in the West Bank and al-Quds-Sharqi (East Jerusalem).

Defying US calls, hawkish Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in his first major foreign policy address on Sunday, stated that the construction would continue in the already existing settlement areas. The issue is widely viewed as Tel Aviv's plan to engineer the demographic features of al-Quds-Sharqi (East Jerusalem) and Judaize what it calls "the future capital of Israel".
Judenrein is so much better than Judaizing.
The peace talks have been on hold since Israel launched a three-week-long military offensive against the Gaza Strip last December - an attack that continued through January 2009. Netanyahu's succession to power also contributed to the freeze in the peace process.

While the Obama administration seems determined to pursue the two-state solution and establish peace in the region, opinion polls suggest that Palestinian and Israeli citizens have 'little hope' that such negotiations would bear fruit.
Posted by: Fred || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [284 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  If the Juice stopped building settlements, the Paleos would just move on to the next "issue". If the Israeli government forcibly moved all Jews out of the disputed settlements, the Paleos would just move on the next "issue". Repeat past nauseum.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 06/21/2009 19:33 Comments || Top||


Mubarak: Determine Palestines borders
[Jerusalem Post Middle East] Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak on Friday said determining the "contiguous" borders of a future Palestinian state was the first priority of getting the Israeli Palestinian peace process back on track.

In a piece entitled How to Achieve Israeli-Palestinian Peace in Friday's Wall Street Journal, Mubarak opined that US President Barack Obama's "seminal" address in Cairo earlier this month had shown that "it is issues of politics and policy, not a clash of values, that separate the Muslim world and America. It is the resolution of these issues that will heal the divide."

"Among the host of challenges before us," Mubarak continues, "it is the Palestinian issue that requires the greatest urgency, given the precarious state of the peace process after years of stalemate."

Mubarak reiterated the Arab world's commitment to the Saudi peace initiative, citing the Beirut summit of 2002 where the initiative was adopted by the Arab League.

He said Israel's "relentless settlement expansion, which has seriously eroded the prospects for a two-state solution," must come to a stop if the peace initiative is to be successfully implemented, as well as the closure of Gaza. The Palestinians, Mubarak writes, must "continue to develop their institutional capacity while overcoming their division to achieve their aspirations for statehood."

The first priority, the Egyptian president says, is "to resolve the permanent borders of a sovereign and territorially contiguous Palestinian state, based on the 1967 lines, as this would unlock most of the other permanent status issues, including settlements, security, water and Jerusalem."

"A historic settlement is within reach," Mubarak wrote. "Egypt stands ready to seize that moment, and I am confident that the Arab world will do the same."
Posted by: Fred || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [402 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  Husni, your son is not going to be a Rais (head) after you.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/21/2009 4:25 Comments || Top||

#2  determining the "contiguous" borders of a future Palestinian state

Currently the borders of the Palestinian territories (West Bank and Gaza) are not contiguous. The only way they could become so is by taking a chunk of pre-June 1967 Israel. Awfully sly that President Mubarek, dontcha think?
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/21/2009 22:09 Comments || Top||


Abbas talks Palestinian unity with Syria’s Assad
DAMASCUS - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas discussed on Saturday efforts to achieve Palestinian reconciliation with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

“We agree with Syria that the dialogue should succeed,” Abbas’s aide Nabil Abu Rdainah told reporters. He was referring to Egyptian mediation between Abbas’s Fatah faction and Hamas, which is supported by Syria and Iran. Egypt has set July 7 as a deadline to find a solution for divisions between the two groups.

Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, who lives in exile in Syria, cancelled a speech he was due to make later on Saturday shortly after Abbas met Assad. No explanation was given.

Abbas’s visit to Syria is the second since May. His aides said Abbas would not be meeting any Palestinian factions in Syria before leaving for Saudi Arabia for talks with King Abdullah on Sunday.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [379 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes, that will make a difference... somehow. Did you notice that Hamas leader Meshaal (is he an emir or a supreme leader?) refuses to be in the same country as Fatah leader Abbas? Were they wearing the same dress or something?
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/21/2009 22:11 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
In Tehran, an eerie calm as death toll jumps to 17
An eerie calm settled over the streets of Tehran Sunday as state media reported at least 10 more deaths in post-election unrest and said authorities arrested the daughter and four other relatives of ex-President Hashemi Rafsanjani, one of Iran's most powerful men.

The reports brought the official death toll for a week of boisterous confrontations to at least 17. State television inside Iran said 10 were killed and 100 injured in clashes Saturday between demonstrators contesting the result of the June 12 election and black-clad police wielding truncheons, tear gas and water cannons.

Police and members of Iran's Basij militia took up positions Sunday afternoon on major streets and squares, including the site of Saturday's clashes, but there was no immediate word on whether protesters were gathering.

The New-York based International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran said scores of injured demonstrators who had sought medical treatment after Saturday's clashes were arrested by security forces at hospitals in the capital. It said doctors had been ordered to report protest-related injuries to the authorities, and that some seriously injured protesters had sought refuge at foreign embassies in a bid to evade arrest. "The arrest of citizens seeking care for wounds suffered at the hands of security forces when they attempted to exercise rights guaranteed under their own constitution and international law is deplorable," said Hadi Ghaemi, spokesman for the campaign.

A police commander sharpened the message Saturday. Gen. Esmaeil Ahmadi Moghadam said more than a week of unrest and marches had become "exhausting, bothersome and intolerable." He threatened a more "serious confrontation" if protesters return.

On Sunday, former reformist president Mohammad Khatami called for the formation of a board to decide the outcome of the disputed election, and urged the release of detained activists and an end to the violence in the streets.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/21/2009 11:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [286 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Tit for tat: daughter of former Iranian president arrested
Iranian state television says authorities have arrested the daughter of former President Hashemi Rafsanjani together with four other family members for taking part in unauthorized protest rallies. The arrests were made late Saturday. Sunday's report by Iran's official English language TV does not identify the four other family members or give more details.

State TV has shown pictures of Faezeh Hashemi, Rafsanjani's eldest daughter, speaking to hundreds of opposition supporters last week. Rafsanjani has made no secret of his distaste for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose re-election victory in a June 12 vote was disputed by opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi.

Ahmadinejad has accused Rafsanjani and his family of corruption.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/21/2009 11:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [281 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  um. what's a "tat"?
Posted by: Angealing Fillmore8510 || 06/21/2009 12:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Er, tattoo? So that'd be tat on tit, like at a strip joint...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 06/21/2009 13:30 Comments || Top||

#3  From the Random House Website
Both tit and tat are archaic words meaning 'a light blow'. The entire expression thus means 'a blow for a blow', like 'an eye for an eye'. Both words were used as verbs, too: a popular song of the late sixteenth century had a refrain, "Come tit me, come tat me,/Come throw a kiss at me."

These words are probably of imitative origin, with a vowel variation found in other words expressing striking such as tip and tap or pit-a-pat. The tit is not related to other tit words, such as the ones (each of independent origin) meaning 'a small bird' (e.g. "titmouse"), 'a breast', or the first element of "tit-bit" (in America usually euphemized to "tid-bit," but not related to the 'breast' word).

The phrase tit for tat is first found in the sixteenth century. It is probably a variant of tip for tap, of similar origin but found a century earlier. The tip in this earlier phrase is the same word as in the baseball expression "a foul tip."
Posted by: cingold || 06/21/2009 15:09 Comments || Top||

#4 
"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world"
Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani December 2001


I would certainly welcome a successful overthrow of the Islamic Republic by the Iranian people.

The possibility remains however that all of this is just a power grab by one faction of the politburo Mullahs at the expense of another faction.

Mousavi et al don't deny the Holocaust of the 1930s and 40s, they just want to complete it.

Let's hope for the best but let's also be cautious and be prepared for the worst!
Posted by: Knuckles Ulinesing2882 || 06/21/2009 18:30 Comments || Top||


Obama to Iran's leaders: Stop 'unjust' actions
Bambi tries to get into the game.
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama on Saturday challenged Iran's government to halt a "violent and unjust" crackdown on dissenters, using his bluntest language yet to condemn Tehran's postelection response.

Obama has sought a measured reaction to avoid being drawn in as a meddler in Iranian affairs.
No; 1) he doesn't know what to do 2) he doesn't want to sound like George Bush 3) he'd rather work on health care 'reform' and 4) speaking out on Iran doesn't give him a chance to apologize for how evil America is.
We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people," Obama said in a written statement. "The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights."
A written statement. Great. How about a televised statement from the Rose Garden? With the teleprompter and everything. Wear a green tie. That would send a message.
Obama has flailed searched for the right tone in light of political pressures on all sides. On Capitol Hill, Congress pressed him to condemn the Iranian government's response. In Iran, the leadership was poised to blame the U.S. for interference and draw Obama in more directly.

"Suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away," the president said, recalling a theme from the speech he gave in Cairo, Egypt, this month.

"The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government," Obama said. "If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, it must respect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion."
Is there a reason why he couldn't have said this earlier in the week?
Obama's comments came as protesters outside the White House waved Iranian flags and denounced Iranian government efforts to suppress the protesters.
The protesters are going to remember the Basiji. They're going to remember who beat them and shot them. They're also going to remember who stood with them and who didn't. We need to be remembered as people who stood with them.
Obama's criticism came one day after both houses of Congress voted overwhelmingly to condemn the actions by the Iranian government against demonstrators and moves to interfere with Internet and cell phone communications. That was seen in part as a veiled criticism of Obama's response, too.

The president already was on record as saying the United States stood behind those who were seeking justice in a peaceful way. He responded to critics that he hadn't been forceful enough in support of protesters, telling CBS News: "The last thing that I want to do is to have the United States be a foil for those forces inside Iran who would love nothing better than to make this an argument about the United States. That's what they do."
But you got blamed anyway. Playing defense doesn't work when dealing with thugs. Get out in front. Play offense. Put some heat on them. Maybe they'll crack and the protesters will win.
The president returned Saturday to his theme that the world is watching the way the Iranian government responds. Obama cited Martin Luther King's statement that "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice."

"I believe that," the president said. "The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian people's belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness."
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [436 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Why can't I just eat my French Vanilla ice cream?
Posted by: Barack Obama || 06/21/2009 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Because you didn't finish your Kobe Beef and Arugala Salad, No dessert till you eat your meat and veggies
Posted by: Michelle "The Klingon" Obama || 06/21/2009 1:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Translation: "Stop fighting each other, and concentrate on getting nukes to deal with you know who!"
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 06/21/2009 4:23 Comments || Top||

#4  It's the Superfecta folks. No Chalk-eaters on this one folks. All play ends in five minutes, thats five minutes. Get your beer and ice cream after your play.... that's four minutes remaining. These ponies are HOT!
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 7:40 Comments || Top||

#5  This doesn't fit the leftist narrative (protests should only be against America or Israel) and it is very confusing for him.
Posted by: Lord garth || 06/21/2009 8:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah, he sorta messed up with that Great Satan thingy for which he's been apologizing for on every trip abroad. The events don't match the meme. Which is why the Joe the Plumber event derailed him for a bit till his attack machine could overwhelm the information flow.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 06/21/2009 8:34 Comments || Top||

#7  "But you got blamed anyway"

In short you want Obama to say exactly what the Iranian regime had to LIE about what he said.

Why are you people such big lovers of the Iranian regime that you want to give them exactly what they want?

The Iranians hate American meddling. If you want the Iranians to overthrow their dictator, DON'T MEDDLE.

The Islamofascists gained power as a response to the America-supported Shah.
The very Basij who are killing people now, got power in response to the American-supported war of Saddam Hussein in the 1980s.

If you didn't keep meddling, the Iranian people would have overthrown their dictators 15 years ago.

STOP MEDDLING. STOP "PLAYING OFFENSE" WHICH KEEPS GIVING THE IRANIAN REGIME EXACTLY WHAT IT WANTS.

Obama acted sanely here. Follow his example, and keep your paws off Iran.
Posted by: Punky Ulegum5531 || 06/21/2009 9:43 Comments || Top||

#8  Ok, 'burgers....in regards to Punky, is he/she/it an Obamabot (complete with kneepads), someone with a "I -Heart- Basijis and Dinnerjacket gets me hot" poster on the wall, or both?
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 06/21/2009 9:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Hey Punky, we have not touched a thing in Iran since Carter was president, which was probably before you were born.

Stop blaming others for your failings.
Posted by: Parabellum || 06/21/2009 9:50 Comments || Top||

#10  If Iran doesn't like our 'meddling' why then are they sending arms and ammunition to kill people (civilian and military) in Iraq? Not to mention the annihilation of Israel and the murder of all Jews? What about their 'meddling' in the states of Lebannon and Israel (and Syria for that matter)?

Sorry but you can't have it both ways. We have been, defacto, in an undeclared war with the GOVERNMENT of Iran for several years now.

Note I said Government - not the People of Iran - who have little, if any, say in their government. (And I wouldn't try that 'Iran is a democracy' BS here...)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 06/21/2009 10:04 Comments || Top||

#11  Punky, please answer honestly the following question:

In the current confrontation between the people and the ruling regime in Iran, whose side are you on?
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 10:40 Comments || Top||

#12  Punky claims: If you didn't keep meddling, the Iranian people would have overthrown their dictators 15 years ago.

Really? How, exactly? Have you seen who has the guns and the nightsticks? Who has the nasty hard boyz who are willing to use them?

And if the people had tried to overthrow the regime fifteen years, ago, that would have been 1994. Bill Clinton was president then. What would you have expected him to say and do?
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 10:42 Comments || Top||

#13  There is a mandatory moral dimension to being President of the United States. We, as an exceptional nation, are on the side of Liberty. Or at least we used to be (exceptional, liberty) until recently.

Reagan understood this innately, and used his words to that effect, to support Solidarity, etc. "Mr Gorbachev, Tear down this wall".

Surely as glib a fellow as Obumble can find the right words and present them well from his telepromper.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/21/2009 10:43 Comments || Top||

#14 
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

~John F. Kennedy, 1961
Posted by: Willy || 06/21/2009 11:48 Comments || Top||

#15  Let every business nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill ,which Rahm keeps a close eye on, believe me, that we shall force it to pay any tax price, bear any regulatory burden, meet any goal for campaign contributions hardship, support any Democratic candidate friend, oppose any Republican candidate, especially Sarah Palin foe to assure the survival and the success of the Chicago Way liberty.

Barack Obama, 2009
Posted by: Matt || 06/21/2009 12:14 Comments || Top||

#16  Don't blame Barry, he was simply once again caught..... "unaware."

Barack Obama, through his spokesman, claimed that he was unaware of the tax day tea parties.

Granted, the MSM has done a good job in suppressing any sort of coverage ahead of time (and the little coverage they did provide was derisive at best) but how out of touch is the Community Organizer in Chief, really?

This much:
- He was unaware that his Presidential plane was used during a photo op joy ride, costing taxpayers $329,000, flew over New York, being pursued by an F-16 fighter, terrorizing thousands of American citizens.
- He was unaware that he was attending a church (for 20 years) with a racist pastor who hates America.
- He was unaware that he was family friends with, and started his political career in the living room of, a domestic terrorist.
- He was unaware that he had invested in two speculative companies backed by some of his top donors right after taking office in 2005.
- He was unaware that his own aunt was living in the US illegally.
- He was unaware that his own brother lives on pennies a day in a hut in Kenya.
- He was unaware of the AIG bonuses that he and his administration approved and signed into a bill.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Commerce was under investigation in a bribery scandal.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Health and Human Services was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of the Treasury was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be the U.S. Trade Representative was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the woman he nominated to be his Chief Performance Officer was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be #2 at the Environmental Protection Agency was under investigation for mismanaging $25 million in EPA grants.

For the love of God, there are people in comas that are more aware of world affairs than this guy.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 12:25 Comments || Top||

#17  Punky is orobably a Ron Paul supporter
Posted by: tipper || 06/21/2009 12:27 Comments || Top||

#18  I'm with the Iranian people, Steve. Khameini is a theocratic fascist, Ahmadinejad a genocidal fascist, and Moussavi himself is not much better (he supported the fatwah against Rushdie, and he's one of the founders of Hezbollah)

But the Iranian people are currently using Moussavi to promote their own desire for freedom, and I'm with the Iranian people.

"Hey Punky, we have not touched a thing in Iran since Carter was president"

Iran-Iraq war. You supported Iraq in a war against Iran. This solidified the legitimacy of Iranian regime, of Iranian anti-Westernism, and besides the deaths it caused then, it helped created some of the most horrible mechanisms for oppression (e.g the Basij), mechanisms that are used today.

What you won't understand is that a nation that's being invaded, or a nation under imminent threat of invasion, won't rebel against the current regime. The regime uses that threat to legitimize itself.

What we're seeing now, under Obama, are the first significant protests since the July 1999 student protests -- under CLINTON.

In between the two, came the brilliance of George W. Bush, who kept threatening to invade Iran -- result? No significant protests during *Bush's* years.

That's why I said "15 years ago". Remove the stupid Reagan years with his Iran-Contra and his support of Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war. Remove the stupid Bush years with his own threats of invasion. The events we're seeing now, we'd be normally seeing 15 years ago.

I'll grant you they might have failed then, same as they seem likely to fail now. But the regime would have been delegitimized that much sooner. Instead you kept boosting the Iranian regime's legitimacy through the Reagan and Dubya years -- by either supporting or threatening attacks on the Iranian people.
Posted by: Punky Ulegum5531 || 06/21/2009 13:24 Comments || Top||

#19  Punky: Iran-Iraq war. You supported Iraq in a war against Iran.

Yeah, sorta the way we supported Stalin in World War II. We gave Iraq limited intel so that they could stop Iran from reaching the Shatt-al-Arab. Sometimes you don't get to pick the cleanest side in a fight.

Good to know you're with the Iranian people.

As to Bush and the 'intervening years', Bush had it right: he supported the Iranian people also, and he said so loudly. That the Mad Mullahs™ used his words to try and build support for themselves at home is irrelevant: they've used America as their stalking horse and have done so regardless of who was President.

Did you notice how the Mad Mullahs™ slacked off the America-hating when Obama became President? No, me neither.

Your idea that we would have had this revolution sooner if only America had kept quiet is a fallacy -- it's the sort of 'realpolitik' that keeps us from what we should be doing, which is to support liberty, human rights and democracy loudly. Always. And damn the thugs and dictators who try to use us to build support at home.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/21/2009 13:59 Comments || Top||

#20  "we would have had this revolution sooner if only America had kept quiet">

More Jeremiah Wright and Barry Soetoro "Hate America" drivel. Please don't buy any.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/21/2009 14:43 Comments || Top||

#21  "Meddling in internal affairs" is something you will only hear from totalitarian regimes.

Free democratic countries don't have that problem.
Posted by: European Conservative || 06/21/2009 14:59 Comments || Top||

#22  "Remove the stupid Reagan years "

Yeah, winning the cold war was no biggie, eh? Punky, sorry but you are a you stupid dipshit.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/21/2009 15:34 Comments || Top||

#23  Our commenter 'Punky' posts from Athens.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/21/2009 17:32 Comments || Top||

#24  Heh. A Greek. How unusual.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/21/2009 17:48 Comments || Top||

#25  What you won't understand is that a nation that's being invaded, or a nation under imminent threat of invasion, won't rebel against the current regime. The regime uses that threat to legitimize itself.

How come this threat always works in the mullah's favor if we're the ones fighting them but it never works against the mullahs when they have a bunch of syrians cracking heads?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 06/21/2009 18:10 Comments || Top||

#26  "Yeah, sorta the way we supported Stalin in World War II."

Since Saddam was the one who invaded Iran, it's more like if you had supported Hitler against Stalin instead.

But if it makes you better, I rechecked the timeline and this sin was initiated by *Carter's* first green-lighting the Iraqi attack on Iran.

Perhaps you'll find it easier to consider it a horrible crime if you know that it was Carter who first committed it, and Reagan merely continued it.

"Yeah, winning the cold war was no biggie, eh? "

Reagan's administration was fine where the Cold War was concerned. It was absolutely horrible where the Middle-east was concerned, supporting Iraq and equipping Iran, and helping two bloody dictatorships spill the blood of their young people.
Posted by: Punky Ulegum5531 || 06/21/2009 19:05 Comments || Top||

#27  Hey look! A chewtoy!

Honestly, us not nuking Iran in 1979 is the real problem here. I forget who said it, but I really liked the sentiment. This is paraphrased, "Every so often, the US needs to pick some small country up and throw it against the wall, just to keep the rest of the world in line."

Honestly, thanks to the slowly diminishing spines of our leaders, people no longer fear the US as they should and we're eroding away the morality that makes people turn to us for aid and comfort when evil is afoot. We should get back into stomping evil, instead of running about, whining that people can like us now. I don't want the world to like us. Respect, fear, and loyalty I'll take though.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 06/21/2009 19:20 Comments || Top||

#28  Athens, eh? Now that you mention it, I kinda recognize the style.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 06/21/2009 19:34 Comments || Top||

#29  You do notice how he continually drags things oiff topic, refuses to address the iusses at hand, dodges and weasels, etc. Typical techniques of a propagandist, not someone who is honestly attempting to actually argue the points. I say cage him and drop in into the crap pile from which he came.

Is he Aris the Dickless Dishonest Douchebag?
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/21/2009 21:43 Comments || Top||

#30  Have "they" come up with a meme about what it is the US is supposedly going to steal in Iran? I mean: oil is so played.
Posted by: eLarson || 06/21/2009 22:02 Comments || Top||


Ahmadinejad thanks Leader for support
[Iran Press TV Latest] Iranian President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has thanked the Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei for his comments at Tehran's Friday prayers.

"I sincerely extend my gratitude to the Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei over his historic and epoch-making presence as well as helpful remarks at Tehran's Friday prayers," the letter read.

It added, "Doubtless you have hoisted the Iranian nation's flag of glory and awareness before the arrogant powers. National accord, unity and esteem, are of paramount significance to national interests ... unconditional exercise of justice, reciprocal nation-government trust and collective determination aimed at resolving obstacles to the country's progress are all public demands that were crystallized in your constructive comments."

Addressing the Friday prayers congregation Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei stated that the Guardian Council, the body accountable for monitoring the election, will investigate the complaints of the presidential contenders who are disgruntled with the election results.

The Leader also underlined that the Islamic Republic establishment would never surrender to illegitimate initiatives and called upon all presidential nominees to remedy their grievances through legal means. He also ordered that protests against the country's presidential election results must end and said that the responsible political leaders will be held accountable for any violence.
Posted by: Fred || 06/21/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [276 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  In other news, Charley Macarthy has expressed deep satisfaction and gratitude to Edgar Bergen for their long and fruitful business relationship.
Posted by: WTF || 06/21/2009 8:42 Comments || Top||



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