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Africa Horn
UNHCHR official expresses shock over continuing attacks in Chad
(KUNA) -- The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour expressed deep concern Friday over continuing attacks against civilians and deadly inter-communal clashes in the area of Chad bordering Sudan's Darfur region. According to recent reports, armed men on horseback have attacked, looted and burned several remote villages in south-eastern Chad over the past week, leaving many dead and forcing hundreds to flee their homes.

Over 180 people may have been killed in these raids, adding to the 140 killed during the period starting on 31 October, information received by United Nations agencies indicates. The attacks, she said, compound ongoing fighting between different ethnic groups in the region that mirrors the armed conflict in Darfur. "I am deeply concerned that the horrendous violence that has been wracking Darfur is affecting Chad, action must be taken immediately to stop a full-blown human rights crisis in south-eastern Chad," she said.
Then she had a nice lunch.
Arbour urged the Government of Chad to protect the civilian population and called on armed groups to stop their attacks. "It is also the Government's duty to bring those responsible for the violence to justice, noting an official announcement on 8 November that the authorities would establish responsibility for the attacks," said Arbour. She recalled that the Government had declared a state of emergency in the region and in the capital N'Djamena on 13 November and urged authorities to abide by their obligations to respect fundamental human rights and freedoms during this period, which she hoped would be as short as possible.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [407 views] Top|| File under:

Khat banned by Somali Islamists -- Riots ensue
The Islamist group which controls much of southern Somalia has banned the popular stimulant khat, a day after protests in which one person died. Islamist leader Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed said khat was a bad influence. Many Somali men, especially gunmen, spend hours chewing it each day.

He also warned squatters to vacate public buildings they have occupied. After 15 years of conflict, many ministries are full of people who have fled fighting in their home regions.

Eyewitnesses say one person was shot dead by Islamist fighters on Thursday following protests over khat shortages. About 60 khat vendors burnt tyres and threw stones in protest at shortages of the drug since a ban on flights to Somalia from Kenya, where most khat is grown.

"From today onwards we have banned khat in the areas we control," Mr Ahmed said. "Dealers found in possession of khat will pay 7 million Somali shillings ($500) and the khat will be burned. This substance is badly influencing our people."

The Islamists have burned two big khat consignments flown in this week to make up for the lack of Kenyan khat.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [367 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "This substance is badly influencing our people."

Still no match for the virtual opium that Islam is...
And speaking of bad influence... do I really have to...?

Posted by: twobyfour || 11/18/2006 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Might as well try and ban Copenhagen dip in Texas.

Too bad we don't have the luxury of waiting for Islam's "no-fun" policies to put it out of business all on its own.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/18/2006 2:11 Comments || Top||

#3  "Dealers found in possession of khat will pay 7 million Somali shillings ($500) and the khat will be burned."

By a large number of volunteers, I'm sure.
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 2:15 Comments || Top||

#4  ...We're missing our chance here. Have the USAF drop BALES of the stuff every night.

Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/18/2006 8:33 Comments || Top||

#5  7 million Somali shillings ($500)
Was Somalia oppressed by the Italians?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/18/2006 8:45 Comments || Top||

#6  lol Mike K
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#7  How about dropping bales of marijuana instead - these guys seriously need some mellowing out.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/18/2006 10:42 Comments || Top||

#8  Islamic Courts launches its War on (Some) Drugs. I predict Quagmire. It might even be Just Like Vietnam.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/18/2006 13:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Reefer Madness ala Allah Style!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/18/2006 17:29 Comments || Top||

'Hybrid' force to control Darfur
SUDAN has backed down in its battle to keep UN forces out, with the Government in Khartoum agreeing after hours of talks to a "hybrid" peacekeeping force. The deal signals the end of UN Security Council resolution 1706, which had authorised a 20,000-strong UN peacekeeping force for the country's troubled western Darfur region.

Outgoing UN chief Kofi Annan announced yesterday that Sudan had agreed "in principle" to the deployment of a "hybrid" UN-African Union peacekeeping force in the region. The force could be as large as 27,000 troops, including the existing 7000-strong African Union peacekeeping force in Darfur, but no timetable has been laid out for the force to begin work partly because Sudan has some reservations.

In a statement released after hours of discussions with AU, Arab League and African officials at the AU's Addis Ababa headquarters, Mr Annan said the proposed transformation of the current AU mission into one involving the world body had been agreed. "A hybrid operation (phase three) is also agreed in principle, pending clarification of the size of the force," he said. "Appointment of senior officials in the hybrid operation will be discussed between stakeholders."

Phases one and two refer to the build-up of the existing AU force and provision of major UN support to the African mission, which has been criticised for not having the means to stop the escalating violence in Darfur. Phase three is the merging of the AU force, known as AMIS, with a UN mission, although Mr Annan said in his statement that the hybrid force would have to be "predominantly African". He said the UN and AU would call a meeting of all parties yet to sign a May peace deal - mainly two Darfur rebel groups - within two weeks to discuss the matter.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
You in mid-air.
Send in the clowns.

Isn't it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move.
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns.

Just when I'd stopped
Opening doors,
Finally knowing
The one that I wanted was yours,
Making my entrance again
With my usual flair,
Sure of my lines,
No one is there.

Don't you love farce?
My fault, I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want -
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns.
Quick, send in the clowns.

What a surprise.
Who could forsee
I'd come to feel about you
What you'd felt about me?
Why only now when i see
That you'd drifted away?
What a surprise.
What a cliche'.

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late
In my career?
And where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother - they're here
Posted by: Classer || 11/18/2006 1:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Only on RB! :-)
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 2:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh, yeah?

Someone left the cake out in the rain
And I'll never have that recipe again.
Oh, woe!
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 9:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Thanks for the earworm, Fred ...
Posted by: Steve White || 11/18/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Here's another...

Sylvia's mother says Sylvia's busy, too busy to come to the phone
Sylvia's mother says Sylvia's trying, to start a new life of her own
Sylvia's mother says Sylvia's happy, so why don't you leave her alone
And the operator says Forty cents more, for the next three minutes
Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/18/2006 12:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Does this mean the peacekeepers will cost 30% more than the regular ones, but the peace-per-peacekeeper will be 20% greater when properly supplied?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/18/2006 12:25 Comments || Top||

#7  I think it means they'll be driving armored Priuses
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 12:32 Comments || Top||

Libya denies arming Islamists in Somalia
Libya on Friday dismissed as unfounded a report that it had supplied Islamists in Somalia with arms, saying Tripoli had played a peace-broker role for years between the Somali government and its rivals for years. “It is unfounded and absolutely untrue and incredible to name Libya in this subject. We are surprised by such information which is baseless,” said Foreign Ministry spokesman Hassouna Chaouch in statement.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [281 views] Top|| File under:

Africa North
Veil Debate: Brotherhood Demands Egyptian Minister Step Down
(AKI) - The parliamentary bloc of the Muslim Brotherhood has issued a statement calling on the prime minister, Ahmed Nazif, to force the resignation of the culture minister, Farouk Hosni, for his comments that the traditional Muslim veil for women "is a symbol of backwardness". In a long communique, posted on its internet site, the Brotherhood - which is legally banned but tolerated - calls on Hosni to be replaced, in the name of respect for the Constitution, the Sharia (Islamic Law) and the Egyptian people.
You figured Farouk was going to get the rubes all riled up.
The document, signed by Mahdi Hasan, the spokesman of the Brotherhood parliamentary bloc - 88 in the 444-member house - cites passages from the interview given by the minister to independent daily Al Masri Al Yom, in which he said "the use of the veil by Egyptian women is a sign of backwardness and a backward step".

"The fact that the mother of the minister did not wear the veil on her way to work or the university, as he recalls in the interview, does not create a legal precedent and in fact contravenes the principles of our religion which invites women to wear it, as any man of faith will confirm" the statement said. "The declarations of Farouk Hosni show a personal viewpoint but do not fit with hsi role as minister of culture in our country" it added.
"It's in the holy book! You could look it up!"
The statement is addressed also to the main religious authorities of the country, such as Sheikh Tantawi, rector of the Al-Azhar university, the main theological centre of Sunni Islam, and the Grand Mufti of Egypt, so that they speak out on the minister's declarations. In the interview published on Thursday Farouk Hosni said that "women with their beautiful hair are like flowers and should not be covered up" and that "religion today is linked only to appearances, while every woman's veil should be inside her, not outside."
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [267 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "..woman's veil should be inside her, not outside."

Image of really bad strip show act comes into my mind...
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/18/2006 1:56 Comments || Top||

#2  ...Some years back, my son was watching an ep of Rocko's Modern Life on Nickelodeon where the two main characters join a cult and then decide to leave. The cult leader stops them and this conversation (approximately) ensues:

CL: "For trying to leave, you shall be boiled in oil, then drawn and quartered and your ashes scattered to the four winds!"

Rocko: "Wait a minute!! Your book says anyone who wants to leave shall be sent on their way with food, drink and the best wishes of the church for future success and happiness!!"

CL: (PAUSE) "It's a matter of interpretation."

Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/18/2006 9:46 Comments || Top||

UK Military Spending Blunders
The march of the amateurs
We have spent considerable time chuntering that the MSM does not give any space to defence procurement. Now, however, equipping the armed forces is at last on the agenda and we are beginning to see some articles on the issue. But, if the Guardian is any guide, they might as well not bother.

In a piece headed, "British military bites the bullet", with Mark Oliver
asking, "Is the British military underfunded, or just spending badly," we find that the years of ignoring the subject, combined with the inherent ignorance and laziness of the MSM, produces something so distorted it is hardly worth reading.

The one thing Oliver does not do is answer his own question - to which the answer is "yes" - yes, it is underfunded and it (or the MoD) is spending badly. But there is a strong European element to the mis-spending, which The Guardian does not even begin to address (although it does mention the Eurofighter and the Type 45 Destroyers), so I thought it would be helpful to put together some examples of Euro-wastage. These are just some of them:
Heh - see the article, some are amazing...
Posted by: .com || 11/18/2006 14:38 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [311 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the Type 45 Destroyer, the ship is equipped with European-designed missile launchers and missiles, which largely account for the huge cost of £1 billion per ship, some £400 million more than the Australians are paying for the more capable US-designed Arleigh Burke

That's criminal.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/18/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||

UK universities get guide on radicals
Britain issued new guidelines to universities on Friday on how to prevent Islamist radicals from recruiting students and preaching hatred on campus, the government’s latest bid to clamp down on militants. The rules from Higher Education Minister Bill Rammell advise how staff should react if they suspect groups are circulating extremist literature to students or fear radical speakers are coming to campus. “The guidance provides a recognition — that I believe must be faced squarely — that violent extremism in the name of Islam is a real, credible and sustained threat to the UK,” Rammell told journalists. “And that there is evidence of serious, but not widespread Islamist extremist activity in higher education institutions,” he said.

Faisal Hanjra of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies (FOSIS) complained that the government had not asked Muslim students about the guidelines, saying extremism must be tackled through open dialogue.
The minister said the new guidance to universities was “not about targeting one particular community. “It is about promoting safety within higher education institutions ... and about higher education providers taking their responsibilities for the safety and welfare of all their staff and students very seriously.”

The department of education said the guidance, based on events that have occurred in the past, follows talks with lecturers, government experts and law enforcement agencies. It also brings universities up to date on recent changes to the law, such as the Terrorism Act 2006.

Speaking on BBC television, Rammell said he disagreed with Anthony Glees, a professor of politics at Brunel University who last year issued more dire warnings about the threat of radicalism on campus. Glees said that Rammell has taken “an important step forward” by telling universities, especially the “less prestigious universities to stop being in denial and to recognise there is a problem and the problem needs to be fixed.” However, “he should have gone further,” he added.

Faisal Hanjra of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies (FOSIS) complained that the government had not asked Muslim students about the guidelines, saying extremism must be tackled through open dialogue.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [279 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Remainds me of the instroctions to cops in Demolition Man (be firm, but non-confrontational).
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 6:56 Comments || Top||

Briton leaves Pakistan after 18 years in prison
A British man on Pakistan's death row for 18 years returned home Friday following an act of clemency by President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. Mirza Tahir Hussain, 38, emerged from a British Airways plane at Heathrow Airport and was expected to issue a statement - just hours after being freed from prison and flown out of Pakistan.
Hussain maintains he was defending himself from an armed sexual assault when Jamshed Khan was shot to death.
He reportedly has negotiated a deal to tell his story exclusively to a British newspaper.

Hussain, who faced death by hanging after being convicted of murdering a taxi driver in 1988, maintains he was defending himself from an armed sexual assault when Jamshed Khan was shot to death. On Wednesday, after lobbying from British politicians and royal figures, Musharraf commuted Hussain's death sentence to life behind bars. Under Pakistani sentencing rules this equated to a 14-year term, meaning he had served his time, the president's office said.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [306 views] Top|| File under:

#1  maintains he was defending himself from an armed sexual assault

A guardman defence! A briton in truth.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 6:58 Comments || Top||

#2  life behind bars. Under Pakistani sentencing rules this equated to a 14-year term,

Pakistan is under the jurisdiction of the 19th Circuit.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/18/2006 8:49 Comments || Top||

Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
KGB 'try to poison man' in sushi bar
Scotland Yard is investigating the attempted murder of a top Russian defector poisoned by political enemies in London.

Alexander Litvinenko, an ex-KGB colonel who fled the current Russian regime to claim asylum in Britain, is under armed police guard in hospital.

Sources have confirmed that the Russian was taken suddenly and dangerously ill on November 1 while investigating the recent murder of dissident Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. Mr Litvinenko was poisoned following a clandestine meeting with an associate at a sushi bar in London's Piccadilly.

The ex-KGB man was given documents which claimed to name Ms Politkovskaya's killers. According to the papers, she was murdered by four members of President Vladimir Putin's federal security service, known as the FSB. A source close to Mr Litvinenko claimed he had been the victim of a revenge attack by the increasingly hard-line Russian regime.

The source added: "He is convinced that he has been poisoned at the instigation of President Putin."

Any suggestion that Putin's men are attacking their enemies on British soil is bound to place serious strain on relations between the two countries - and raises the ghosts of Cold War scandals such as the assassination of Georgi Markov, the Bulgarian dissident murdered with a poison-tipped umbrella.

Scotland Yard confirmed last night that the Litvinenko case was being investigated as a 'suspicious poisoning' and that his condition was 'serious, but stable'.

It was also clear that MI5 had launched an urgent operation.

Senior security sources told The Mail on Sunday that the Russian had been poisoned with thallium, a virulent toxin that can cause death within ten hours.

Mr Litvinenko collapsed three weeks ago after meeting an Italian associate, Mario Scaramella, at the Itsu Japanese restaurant in Piccadilly.

Friends of the Russian believe he was followed around London by the FSB, which also monitored his e-mails and phone calls. Putin's agents would then have seen him take receipt of the documents at the sushi bar - and decided to move in for the kill.

Thallium - an odourless, colourless poison - can be lethal even in doses of less than a gram. Mr Litvinenko's supporters believe FSB agents injected the toxin into a meal either at the restaurant or shortly after his meeting with Mr Scaramella.

The Russian and his supporters are certain Mr Scaramella had no knowledge of the poison attempt.

The victim survived, they say, only because of his high fitness levels and his quick-wittedness when he first felt ill. He induced vomiting in an attempt to rid his system of the poison.

He told the Russian Izvestia news agency last week that Mr Scaramella had e-mailed him from Italy in October asking to meet him in London on November 10 and 11.

Mr Litvinenko added: "But suddenly he called me on November 1 and, as usual, we decided to meet at Piccadilly Circus. We met at around 3pm and I invited him to dine in the restaurant.

"I ordered the food, and he took just water and was hurrying me. From the text of the documents, I understood that the mentioned people could have arranged the murder of Anna Politkovskaya. We parted nearly at once. As soon as I got home, I fell down."

Last night Tatiane Assis, duty manager of the Itsu sushi bar, said: "The police came here in the morning and they asked if we had CCTV cameras around. They didn't give me any details - they just said it was because they were looking into a poisoning but they weren't sure if it was in here. They didn't take anything away and we don't have any CCTV."

Mr Litvinenko, a former colonel in the FSB and before that its predecessor the KGB, defected to Britain in 2000 after fleeing treason charges in Russia. He was granted political asylum in May 2001.

Last night, friends of Mr Litvinenko said he had lost his hair, had difficulty speaking and had a 50 per cent chance of survival in University College Hospital, London.

Mr Litvinenko has proved a constant irritant to Mr Putin since a meeting between the pair eight years ago.

In 1998, shortly after Mr Putin was appointed head of the FSB, he invited Mr Litvinenko to meet him. Mr Litvinenko has described how he used the occasion to tell Mr Putin about corrupt practices in the organisation. The meeting was cut short and he was suspended.

In November that year he went public with his claims - including the bombshell allegation that the FSB had plotted to kill the business tycoon Boris Berezovsky. From that point on, Mr Litvinenko was in and out of jail, facing corruption charges, until he fled to Britain.

The following year he co-authored a book - apparently funded by Berezovsky - Blowing Up Russia: Terror From Within, which claimed the Russian security services had used organised crime gangs and war criminals to carry out contract killings in Russia and abroad.

He described a secret FSB department which specialised in locating and liquidating people considered a danger to the state. He also alleged that top Russian officials took million-dollar payments from Chechen leaders as payment for weapons and ammunition left in the war-ravaged republic by Russian troops - and in exchange for Russian commanders agreeing to halt certain military operations.

Most damagingly, he claimed that the FSB was behind the deadly apartment bombings in Moscow in 1999, which he said the Kremlin had blamed on Chechen terrorists. Recently he had become interested in the murder of Anna Politkovskaya, a journalist who investigated human-rights abuses by Russians in Chechnya and was gunned down in her Moscow apartment building in October.

The poisoning mystery recalls the spy dramas of the Cold War, when deep mistrust existed between East and West. The era was synonymous with treachery and betrayal - and some would go to almost any lengths to silence opponents.

One notorious case was that of Georgi Markov, the Bulgarian dissident killed by a poisoned umbrella in 1978.

He was standing at a bus stop on Waterloo Bridge when he felt a sting in his right leg. At the same moment, a man behind him picked up an umbrella he had dropped and sprinted away to get into a taxi.

Three days later, Markov was dead, a victim of the Cold War and the Bulgarian secret police.

Two years ago the world was given a startling reminder of the Soviet Union's grisly heritage with the attempted murder of Ukrainian presidential candidate Viktor Yushchenko. He was poisoned by political rivals, and his face is still grossly disfigured.

Professor Scaramella, who Mr Litvinenko met in the sushi bar, is an academic at Naples University and a consultant to the Mitrokhin Commission which was set up by the Italian parliament to investigate the activities of the KGB in Italy during the Cold War.

In 2004 he was the victim of a murder attempt when a Mafia hitman tried to kill him. Several shots were fired but the gunman missed.

Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 20:03 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [401 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In a sushi bar, how can you tell it's deliberate poison? Generally, they have this exotic wallpaper, which, if you look closely, is actually County Health Department Notices.
Posted by: Jackal || 11/18/2006 20:40 Comments || Top||

#2  In Tower of Secrets Soviet defector Victor Sheymov describes an incident involving KGB use of poisons specifically intended to mimic bad fish, even down to the toxicology results.
Posted by: Iblis || 11/18/2006 22:07 Comments || Top||

#3  So PUTIN is either caught or directly implicated, and likely will be again, and again,.........ergo like Saddam he can't = won't be allowed to swing from the gallows on nigh. Iff anything, he'll be allowed to quietly "retire" wid a hefty Gubmint pension > Crimicrats, like Treason = Patriot Wafflecrats need their Patriotic Taxpayer-subsidized Gubmint = Social Security checks like every other Loyalist + Servant of the People/Masses.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/18/2006 22:26 Comments || Top||

US expects APEC statement on North Korea
HANOI (AFP) - The White House has said that it expected leaders of 21 Asia-Pacific countries meeting here to issue a statement calling on North Korea to renounce nuclear weapons and return to disarmament talks.
Kimmie's going to be even more ronery ...
"There is a statement, I think it's pretty well agreed. There are a couple, sort of, issues remaining, dealing mostly with the form, not the substance of that statement," said US national security adviser Stephen Hadley Saturday. "I think we're pleased with that statement, and I think it will be a good contribution to the diplomacy," Hadley told reporters at a briefing on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation ( APEC) summit.

Another White House official, who requested anonymity, said it would be a written statement but that it was unclear whether the statement would be separate from the summit's final communique. But the official said the statement would condemn North Korea's October 9 nuclear test, urge it to comply with international demands to abandon its atomic weapons programs and come back to six-party disarmament talks. "It will reiterate APEC leaders' concern over the missile launches and then the nuclear test and urge the North Koreans to comply with (UN Security Council Resolution) 1718 and to get back to the six-party talks," the official said.

Thai foreign ministry spokesman Kitti Vasinonh said the statement would be separate from the leaders' wide-ranging end-of-summit communique but that differences remained on the format. "The reasons for having a separate statement is for members of APEC to give their common concerns on the Korean peninsula," he said. "There are still different views on how to proceed even though there is consensus on common concerns from all APEC economies on the situation in the Korean peninsula," the spokesman said.

"The question is, how to move on the so-called joint statement, whether it is a written statement or a verbal statement, and the language," he said.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/18/2006 16:21 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [405 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And if SouK finds out that the rest of its neighbors agree to whomp on NorK, perhaps they will finally grow some balls and sanction them as well rather than continue to enable them. Hmph.
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 17:54 Comments || Top||

#2  NEWSMAX.com > DICK MORRIS > It'll be GORE versus HILLARY in 2008. I still say make that VPOTUS = CO-POTUS HILLARY, at worse SENATOR HILLARY, iff the Iranians + North Korea/NK-Taiwan issues are NOT resolved. GOOD DIALECTICISTS > means any scenario for anti-GOP-Right, NPE-decapitating AMERICAN HIROSHIMA/NEW 9-11(s) will be kept on as PC/Deniable backup = contingency.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/18/2006 22:34 Comments || Top||

Dutch Muslims hit out at proposed burqa ban
Dutch Muslims have hit out at a proposed government ban of face veils, saying it was over the top, ill-conceived and infringed religious rights.
Whoa! Didn't see this one coming!... Oh. We did. Never mind.
On Friday the Dutch cabinet said it was proposing a bill banning clothing that covers the face in public, targeting in particular Muslim woman wearing the burqa or niqab.
Targeting also young Muslim men who're into dressing up as Muslim women, whether it's because they're transporting ammunition, on the run from the coppers, or they just like wearing women's underwear...
The burqa is an Islamic veil covering the entire face and body and a mesh screen to see through, while the niqab is a veil covering the face but leaving the eye area clear. The garments are worn by a few dozen women in the Netherlands.
"So, really, y'see, it's not a problem..."
Rita Verdonk, minister of immigration and integration, said the bill proposed a ban on the basis that covering the face constituted a risk to public order and safety. The ban would be imposed in public and "semi-public" places such as schools, courts, ministries and trains, her spokesman Martin Bruinsma told AFP. "In this country, we want to be able to see each other. The ban is a question of security," daily De Telegraaf quoted on Saturday the minister as saying.
If government has the power to ban running around nekkid at the beach, it should also have the power to ban its exact opposite at the bus station. That's logic.
But representatives of the country's Muslim population were unimpressed.
They've never been particularly impressed by logic, have they?
"They are going to have to find a better argument than security.
Why would they have to? It's gummint's responsibility to ensure citizens' security.
"It is an infringement on the freedom of religion," said Ahmed Markouch, a Moroccan mosques representative. He predicted that the bill would go down badly with the country's sizeable Muslim population, "because it comes from Verdonk, not because they are in favour of the burqa."
Meaning that if it came from somebody else they'd accept it without a grumble. I somehow doubt that. It it came from somebody else, they'd be "just as bad as Verdonk."
Green Party lawmaker Mustapha Laboui, who is of Moroccan origin, said that although he believed the wearing of the burqa in Dutch society was "not logical", he was sceptical as to the bill's legality. And Ayhan Tonca from the CMO, a group representing Muslims, said that such a law would be "useless". "The existing laws are sufficient for dealing with the problems. It's over the top, a law for a dozen people!," Tonca told AFP.
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#1  "In this country, we want to be able to see each other. /EM>

Is it still so in Holland that people don't close their curtains, so that passersby should be able to see into their parlours?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/18/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#2  They are going to have to find a better argument than security.

Kinda interferes with your plans then, eh?

Simple. If the Muslims are howling, the Dutch must be doing something right. As Fjordman says in his article, "Suggestions for Solutions";
The best way to deal with the Islamic world is to have as little to do with it as possible. We should ban Muslim immigration. This could be done in creative and indirect ways, such as banning immigration from nations with citizens known to be engaged in terrorist activities. We should remove all Muslim non-citizens currently in the West. We should also change our laws to ensure that Muslim citizens who advocate sharia, preach Jihad, the inequality of “infidels” and of women should have their citizenship revoked and be deported back to their country of origin

Westerners need to create an environment where the practice of Islam is made difficult. Muslim citizens should be forced to either accept our secular ways or leave if they desire sharia. Much of this can be done in a non-discriminatory way, by simply refusing to allow special pleading to Muslims. Do not allow the public call to prayer as it is offensive to other faiths. All children, boys and girls should take part in all sporting and social activities of the school and the community. Companies and public buildings should not be forced to build prayer rooms for Muslims. Enact laws to eliminate the abuse of family reunification laws.

As columnist Diana West points out, we should shift from a pro-democracy offensive to an anti-sharia defensive, and amend our laws to bar further Islamic immigration, beginning with immigration from sharia states. Calling this the War on Terror was a mistake. We need to give it another name, maybe “War of Self-Defense against the Jihad.” Another possibility is “War against Apartheid.” [Baron Bodissey’s two cents: Call it “Take Back the Culture.”] Given sharia’s inequality between men and women, Muslims and non-Muslims, it is de facto a religious apartheid system. Calling this struggle a self-defense against apartheid would make it more difficult for Western Leftists to dismiss it. We should also focus on how ex-Muslims are treated just like runaway slaves: Harassed, beaten, and frequently murdered in their quest for freedom.

Nations that want to survive the Muslim onslaught must adopt such anti-sharia measures and become increasingly unfriendly towards Islam. So long as MME (Muslim Middle East) countries prohibit or do not enforce freedom of religion, Islam must be banned wherever there is such freedom in the West. Reciprocity must become the byword in all dealings with Islam.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/18/2006 11:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Hiding wimmen and over-sexualizing them at the same time, reducing them to objects, go against the very basis of dutch (and western) culture.

The veil is already bad, and should be seen as what it is, IE a flag, but the full-body covering niqab or burkha is just PLAIN INSULTING.
It is the exact same behavior as a western woman going outside in bikini in soody arabia. Muslims wouldn't tolerate that, we westerners shouldn't have to bend backward to tolerate behaviors that aggressively go against our own values.

Anyway, such garnment is not meant to do anything else that conquer public space and impose the superiority of the muslim "civilization" over the host society's.
Cultural imperialism. Should. Not. Be. Tolerated.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/18/2006 12:37 Comments || Top||

#4  You can always go back to your own s**thole countries and wear the burqa back there. And practice your misogyny, honor killings, and all the other religious trimmings as well.
Posted by: Dar || 11/18/2006 13:40 Comments || Top||

Fifth Column
Son of Edward Said considered for law professorship; Protests ensue
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MMA rift widens
The rift between the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) widened when Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Amir Qazi Hussain Ahmed asked Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman, in a harsh tone, to resign from the National Assembly along with other party parliamentarians. “Ask your MNAs to submit their resignations, otherwise allow other parties of the MMA to do what they want, ” sources quoted Qazi as telling Fazl during a meeting of the supreme council on Thursday.

Sources said that Fazl made last ditch efforts to convince Qazi and the leaders of the other four component parties to delay the decision to resign, but in vain. Later, Fazl agreed to tender resignations but sought some time to consult his party senators, MNAs and MPAs. Sources said Fazl told the meeting that JUI-F Balochistan chief Maulana Muhammad Khan Sherani and other members belonging to the same province were not ready to resign. “They are not ready to act according to my advice,” sources quoted Fazl as saying. On this Qazi said, “They should follow the discipline of the alliance.”

Qazi recalled that the decision regarding resignations was taken in the last supreme council meeting and that Maulana Sherani had also supported the decision, sources said. Maulana Sherani had refused to resign from the assemblies on the issue of Nawab Akbar Bugti’s killing and had said that if the MMA wanted to quit the assemblies, it should do the same over the issue of the Hudood Bill, sources quoted Qazi as saying.
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Fazl announces 'forceful resistance' against government
Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) Secretary General Maulana Fazlur Rehman has announced that a “forceful resistance” against the government’s “anti-Islam agenda” would be launched to remove it from power. Fazl told a press conference on Friday that the MMA’s decision to resign from the National Assembly in protest at the Women’s Protection Bill (WPB) was “final”, and plans for this purpose would be made at a meeting of the MMA supreme council on December 6. He challenged President Pervez Musharraf to shed his uniform and “step into the political field” to judge his public worth.

He said the MMA would only resign from the National Assembly because “we do not want to punish the NWFP and Balochistan assemblies”. The MMA would “not allow” by-elections for seats that its members would vacate, he added. Fazl said that the WPB would “not be implemented” in NWFP and Balochistan. “Provinces have the constitutional right to reject un-Islamic legislation,” he added.
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#1  Still looking for better resolution.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/18/2006 8:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Lol, Ship. That's the one.
Posted by: .com || 11/18/2006 9:15 Comments || Top||

#3  of course, it won't be his fat dishtoweled head getting bonked. He's too holy. He has mindless minions to take the beatings
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 9:47 Comments || Top||

General takes centre stage in political battle
The testimony of General John Abizaid, the head of US forces in the Middle East, before the Senate Armed Services Committee was dramatic and clear: any timetable for a withdrawal of US forces from Iraq would be a disaster.

He seemed to confirm the view of many that George Bush, who has insisted that he will be guided by his military commanders on Iraq strategy, means it when he says there will be no withdrawal of US forces in the near future. And it showed that the Democrats, despite their big victory in the mid-term elections, are unlikely to get far with their demand for a US withdrawal starting in four to six months.

McCain said he was distressed that Abizaid was advocating a "status quo" position that had been rejected by the American people. Abizaid insisted he was doing no such thing. More troops were needed in Iraq, but they should be Iraqi troops.
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#1  This has been going on for several days. The story has been in so many newspapers and such that the Democrats are going to find themselves unavoidably and publically hoist by their own petard. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/18/2006 21:08 Comments || Top||

#2  But the point is, if the generals can't find a way to move forward in Iraq starting now, then the Democratic stance gains validity and they win. A pullout will be the only option left.
Posted by: MU || 11/18/2006 21:12 Comments || Top||

#3  McCain said he was distressed that Abizaid was advocating a "status quo" position that had been rejected by the American people

I'll bet McCain had to think long and hard about how he was going to express this. W has been saying this because his top military have been saying it. If that's the definition of "status quo", so be it.
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 21:15 Comments || Top||

#4  I posted the Oz article because it was more balanced than the Boston Globe report on his speech yesterday:

Abizaid, addressing academics, students, and members of the military at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, recognized the reality of souring public opinion in America about the war, but hastened to add, "We have not failed yet."

"I think we can win this fight," he said. "I think we are winning this fight."

Sarah Sewall, director of the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, which sponsored the talk, introduced the general. She described Abizaid's "uniquely valuable perspective" and cautioned against blaming military leaders for executing decisions made by political leaders.

Referring to the way the Vietnam War polarized the country and crippled the military, she said: "We have been down that road before."

At his address at the Kennedy School forum, Abizaid was asked on several occasions why American public opinion had turned so decidedly against the war, and he consistently said that the despair he felt in Washington was not reflected in the field among American or Iraqi soldiers and officials.

He pointedly blamed the American media for its criticism of the US military in Iraq and said coverage of the war had led to the perception of a failed policy.

"We can't worry about the 24-hour news cycle; we've got to worry about where we come out in history," he said.

"We absolutely are in the stage where we have got to make this work," he said. "We need to start having better effect against the sectarian violence within six months."

Abizaid said the stakes were high in Iraq and in the global struggle against the rise of violent Islamic extremism, which he has dubbed "the long war."

"I believe our failure to address the major problems of extremism can lead to World War III," he said.

At the end of a grueling week in which he was barraged on Wednesday by the Senate Armed Services Committee on Capitol Hill with questions and criticism about the war, Abizaid joked with the audience about why he wore camouflage fatigues instead of his green dress uniform for the evening.

"I usually wear my green uniform," he said to a polite round of laughter. "But there was so much blood on it, I had to come in this uniform."

As he spoke, a knot of several dozen protesters gathered outside the gates of the Kennedy School. As Abizaid prepared to exit, the crowd chanted louder: "Abizaid is a liar. No more war for empire."

"Put on the shields, boys," Abizaid quipped to his fellow officers as they bounded into the vehicle and drove through the crowd.

One of the protesters, Nick Giannone, 31, of Quincy, who works for Boilermakers Union Local 906, said: "I am against this war. I came here to remind the world that Abizaid has a lot of blood on his hands."

Posted by: KBK || 11/18/2006 22:39 Comments || Top||

#5  "We can't worry about the 24-hour news cycle; we've got to worry about where we come out in history," he said.

You F-ing better start worrying about it. That's what's hurting you the most! Appoint someone to worry about it for you if you need to! A few million spent on establising and stocking an internet site can reap all kinds of dividends. The media is doing it. Al-Q is doing it, so is Hamas, Hezb'Allah, and on and on. The terrorists have to spend their time, money, and energy wisely, why can't you? DUH!

Now where's the underline button?
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 22:53 Comments || Top||

#6  On second thought, maybe it's better if we don't have an underline button. If Joe finds it, it will be even harder to figure out what he's trying to say. :-)
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 22:55 Comments || Top||

#7  LUCIANNE.com via CNS.com > Abizhaid says wntire world will face realistic prospect of NEW WORLD WAR unless Radical Islam is stopped, espec if current sectarianism in IRAQ goes unchecked, thus US pullout for any reason could result in de facto worldwide/global disaster. AL-JAZEERA > WHAT ARE FOUR US CARRIERS DOING IN PERSIAN GULF?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/18/2006 23:54 Comments || Top||

Iraqi Sunni head says arrest warrant illegal
The head of Iraq's most influential Sunni Muslim organization said Friday that the government's bid to arrest him was illegal, and his spokesman urged Sunni politicians to quit the parliament and government. The brewing political crisis threatened the Shi'ite dominated government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and could provoke an even more violent surge in sectarian conflict as Iraq teeters on the edge of civil war.

The new upheaval began late Thursday when Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, a Shi'ite, announced on state television that he had issued the arrest warrant against the leader of the powerful Association of Muslim Scholars, Sheik Harith al-Dhari, for allegedly inciting terrorism and violence.
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#1  Saddam Hussein says his arrest was illegal too. If we're lucky, al-Dhari's warrant will follow much the same path.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/18/2006 2:00 Comments || Top||

#2  So he thinks the government is illegal, eh? What do you suppose that means if you follow the logical thread to its end?
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 2:10 Comments || Top||

Bush tells Howard "We Stay"
US President George W. Bush has assured John Howard that he will be fully consulted about any change in Iraq troop deployments, as the two men reaffirmed their vow to stay in the war zone until "we get the job done".

Despite his political buffeting at the hands of the Democrats, the US President declared he would not be watering down the military commitment to Iraq, declaring it was "going to take a while". And he refused to rule out increasing the US's 140,000 troops in the strife-torn country, after talks lasting an hour with Mr Howard in the Vietnamese capital yesterday.

The President said the Vietnam War, which ended more than 30 years ago, offered lessons for the Middle East conflict, as he brushed aside calls to begin phasing down the US military presence in Iraq.
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Take Back Gaza, Israeli Official Says
Israel should ignore moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, wipe out the Hamas leadership and walk away from the U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan, Israel's new deputy prime minister, Avigdor Lieberman, said Saturday.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert forged an alliance with Lieberman, one of Israel's most divisive politicians, last month to shore up his shaky coalition. The appointment of Lieberman as minister of strategic affairs raised concern that Olmert's government, weakened by the summer's war in Lebanon, would freeze all peace efforts.

Olmert's spokeswoman, Miri Eisin, had no comment Saturday on Lieberman's latest remarks laying out his views on the conflict with Palestinians. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat, a top Abbas aide, said Lieberman is stuck in the past and that his ideas "are a recipe for the continuation of bloodshed, violence, extremism and hatred between the two sides."

In an interview with Israel Radio, Lieberman proposed a series of measures, based on what he said is his belief that the Palestinians are not interested in setting up their own state, but rather in destroying Israel.

Israel must walk away from interim peace deals, the so-called Oslo Accords, and from the U.S.-backed "road map" plan, which envisions the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel in several stages, he said. "A continuation of Oslo, of the road map ... will lead us to another round of conflict, a much more bloody round, and in the end to an even deeper deadlock, and it threatens our future," he said.

He dismissed Abbas, elected president in 2005, as an ineffective leader and said he should be ignored, in favor of closer coordination with the Jordanian government about the fate of the West Bank. "We have a reliable partner there which is Jordan," he said. "We have to coordinate with Jordan. We have to say that Abbas is simply not relevant, we have to ignore him ... He has no authority, no power."

Israel also needs to get tougher with the Hamas and Islamic Jihad groups, particularly their leaders, Lieberman said. "I see the entire leadership of Hamas and Jihad walking around freely, and it's continuing to incite," he told the radio. "They ... have to disappear, to go to paradise, all of them, and there can't be any compromise."

The leader of the Hamas bloc in the Palestinian parliament, Mushir al-Masri, said any attack on the group's leaders would trigger immediate retaliation. Israel has killed a series of Hamas leaders in targeted missiles strikes in recent years, including the group's founder, but has not targeted members of the Hamas government elected nine months ago.

Lieberman also proposed that Israel take back control of the Gaza-Egypt border to stop weapons smuggling. Israel ceded the border in a U.S.-brokered agreement, after leaving the Gaza Strip last year. Since then, the border has repeatedly been closed over security alerts, and Israel troops have raided the area in search of weapons-smuggling tunnels. The Israeli military has expressed concern about weapons flowing into Gaza. The border's Rafah crossing is controlled by Egypt, the Palestinians and EU monitors.

Lieberman said Israel cannot rely on others to prevent the influx of weapons. "We have heard about tons of weapons, of missiles, we have heard about the smuggling of hundreds of millions of dollars into Gaza, and this is the fuel driving this entire war," he said. "They have all failed, the international observers who are sitting at the Rafah crossing, the Egyptians."

Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu Party (Israel is Our Home) has 11 seats in Israel's 120-member parliament, and gives Olmert a comfortable safety net in parliament votes. The government expansion was roundly criticized by Israeli doves and Arab activists.
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#1  Wooboy! A realist?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 14:17 Comments || Top||

#2  And he better keep speaking up. this "unity government" idea the Pals are playing with to circumvent money freezes used to be reported for the farcical nudge-nudge, wink-wink, pretend Hamas isn't in charge are now reported just a few days later with ingenuous sincerity.

Kill them all Lieberman. Talk tough back and follow through. Mean it. do it. You've got their number.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 11/18/2006 14:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Take back Gaza, but with Paleos in place, it is more harm than good. Perhaps Egyptians could receive them with open brotherly arms. There is so much uninhabited space on Sinai... I am sure that Paleos could make it a flowering garden in time...when hell freezes over, yea, but there's really no rush...at their own pace...
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/18/2006 19:26 Comments || Top||

#4  relocation of teh Paleos would require an Environmental Impact Report, and it won't be pretty. I don't think there's enough land to mitigate for the typical Paleo's impact. They seem to turn every place they occur into a steaming shithole. See: Gaza, Ein-El Hellhole, West Bank, parts of Jordan, Detroit. It appears congenital
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 19:53 Comments || Top||

#5  People named Lieberman seem to know the stakes in the war.
Posted by: Jackal || 11/18/2006 20:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Jackal, I believe Avigdor and Joe are distantly related.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 11/18/2006 22:34 Comments || Top||

Peres: 'We must not enter the Gaza swamp'
"We must not enter the Gaza swamp," said Vice Premier Shimon Peres on Friday.
"Paralysis is better than action."
Peres went on to say that it was vital to search for operational and technological answers to the Kassam rockets and to exert the necessary pressure in order to stop the attacks, Israel Radio reported.
A high enough corpse count among the enemy would stop the attacks. Fear can do that, just as fear can induce paralysis.
Peres added that while Israel was gong through a tough period, it was "even tougher for the Palestinians."
Send them a card and shuddup.
He stressed that Hamas was "going through considerable distress," which was manifesting itself in attempts to be more flexible to facilitate the establishment of a Palestinian Authority unity government.
This guy used to be prime minister. Of Israel, not Palestine. And the country's still there. That says something for Israeli resilience.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [388 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We must evaporate the gaza stip from the face of this earth. Once the west has this courage, the islamofascists will get the message and all of this stupid proxy war will end. Tell me you got any thing better if you know what the Islamists are all about
Posted by: Annon || 11/18/2006 1:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Has Israel actually begun to take the UN seriously? It's one of the only explanations for their recent behavior.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/18/2006 2:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Israel takes US seriously, Zen. And US takes EUros (at least friend Tony) seriously.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 6:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Got your technological answer here...

And here...
Posted by: Shipman || 11/18/2006 9:07 Comments || Top||

#5  Peres' brain is in a quagmire.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/18/2006 17:19 Comments || Top||

#6  the Israeli Jimmy Carter
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 18:12 Comments || Top||

PA official: Kuwaitis send Abbas $30m. in aid
Kuwait on Friday sent $30 million in aid to the office of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, a presidential aide said, the latest move in an international strategy to help the Palestinians while bypassing the Hamas-led government.

Rafiq Husseini, Abbas' chief of staff, said the president would distribute the money to civil servants who did not receive salaries last month. The Hamas-run Palestinian Authority has been unable to pay full salaries to the government's 165,000 employees since Western donors cut off vital aid to the government after the Islamic group won legislative elections earlier this year. Israel and the West have demanded Hamas renounce violence and recognize Israel's right to exist.
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#1  Dear Emir, please send the 30000000 directly to the numbered Swiss the details of which are given below.

Cordially Yours,

Mahmoud Abbas
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 6:51 Comments || Top||

UN General Assembly calls for Israel to end military operation in Gaza
The UN General Assembly called for an end to Israeli military operations in the Gaza Strip, overwhelmingly passing a resolution in an emergency special session the Israeli ambassador blasted as a "farce" and a "circus."

The Arab League had asked for the session after the United States vetoed a similar, but watered-down UN Security Council draft resolution against Israel's actions last weekend - its second veto on the matter this year. The resolution passed Friday by a vote of 156 to 7, with six abstentions. The US, Israel and Australia voted against the document, along with four Pacific island nations. All the European Union members supported the resolution after last-minute changes were made to soften the tone of the text. There are no vetoes in the 192-member General Assembly, and the chamber's resolutions are nonbinding, considered more a reflection of international opinion.

The Palestinian UN observer, Riyad Mansour, said earlier that Israel had committed war crimes against Palestinian civilians in its nearly five-month offensive, which Israel says is aimed at stopping militants from firing rockets from Gaza into its territory. Mansour said 82 Palestinians were killed during a six-day Israeli assault on the town of Beit Hanoun this month, including 19 members of an extended family who died in an early-morning artillery attack on Nov. 8. "What is required is serious and firm action in response to these crimes, especially the massacre in Beit Hanoun, as well as putting an end to this rampant Israeli campaign, which intends to destroy an entire people," Mansour told the General Assembly.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [823 views] Top|| File under:

#1  First: The Kassams stop. Second: Gaza operations stop. If the UN would take care of step #1, the second step will take care of itself. But you have to give the UN credit. They don't try to do the impossible, so they are focusing on the possible.
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 0:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Each rocket launched at Israel should be immediately replied to with at least a 500 pound bomb on the launch point. If the launch point can't be identified, a random guess will do - the Kassam targetting is no better than that. The key is speed; when training a dog you have to have to match the target behavior very quickly with the punishment (or reward) in order for the simple mind to associate the two.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/18/2006 2:07 Comments || Top||

#3  UN needs to be moved from CONUS ASAP.
The US leaving is not required - but not having them or their embassies in NYNY is NEEDED before SUCIDE EMBASSIES emerge.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/18/2006 16:48 Comments || Top||

#4  US Calls for UN to End Illegal Occupation of Valuable Property in NYC

(film at 11)

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 11/18/2006 18:55 Comments || Top||

Palestinian government unity may be delayed
Palestinian negotiators said Friday a hoped-for deal this week on a unity government could be delayed by difficulties in working out a parallel prisoner swap with Israel. The Palestinian president and premier, heading the rival Fatah and Hamas factions, have been trying to wrap up the deal in an effort to end the economic sanctions and pave the way for a resumption of long-frozen talks with Israel. The negotiations have been dragging on for months.

President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah, a moderate, has been pushing Hamas to enter a coalition with Fatah in hopes of ending the sanctions. He hopes the government to endorse a softer position to Israel that will enable him to resume peace talks. The concept is to replace the Cabinet of Hamas ministers with independent experts linked to, but not members of, the two movements. Abbas and his Palestine Liberation Organization would be charged with handling peace negotiations, while the Cabinet would deal with the daily affairs of the Palestinian areas.

The negotiator, who took part in Thursday's meeting with Abbas and Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, spoke on condition of anonymity because the meeting was not public. The two met again Friday. Ghazi Hamad, spokesman for the current Hamas-led government, said a deal might take a bit longer to reach, but expressed optimism the sides would resolve their differences. A key sticking point is which party will appoint the interior minister, who oversees powerful security forces.
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Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [322 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Again????
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 6:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Comes as a surprise, dunnit?
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 9:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Palestinian government unity - Another oxymoron definition.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/18/2006 16:49 Comments || Top||

Islamic Jihad says it will weigh truce
The Islamic Jihad on Friday said it would consider halting rocket attacks on Israel in response to a request from President Mahmoud Abbas. Abbas met Friday with leaders of the hard-line group, which has carried out numerous suicide bombings and rocket attacks against Israeli targets, and urged them to halt the violence. "Abbas said the truce is a necessity in the framework of national interest," said Khedr Habib, an Islamic Jihad leader in Gaza. "We said the truce must be mutual ... and part of a national consensus."

Islamic Jihad's Web site, quoting Khaled al-Batch, another leader of the group, said Abbas' proposal is "worth studying." While Islamic Jihad is not the only group to fire rockets, it has repeatedly resisted calls from Abbas to end its attacks on Israel. A halt in rocket fire by the group would be an important accomplishment for Abbas, who hopes to revive peace talks.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [281 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another bullsh*t hudna. "Will stop attacks ... blah, blah, blah, ... till after we rearm". Anyone who buys this is either a dhimmi, an idiot, or both.
Posted by: DMFD || 11/18/2006 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  However they weigh it, I'm sure they will come up with zero.
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 0:52 Comments || Top||

Warty Nose: Unity gov't depends on Israel, renewed aid
Palestinian Authority Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahar said Friday while visiting Damascus that the establishment of a unity government in the PA was conditional upon Israel stopping its "siege" on the Palestinians and a renewal of international economic aid.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [282 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the name Warty Nose is instantly recognizable.

pbuh, Warty Nose's Wart

I'll never recognize Zahar's name as readily as the discolored tumor hanging off his nose, and the Wart does serve us as an emblem reminding everyone of Warty Nose's character.
Posted by: RD || 11/18/2006 1:55 Comments || Top||

Bush's "Religion of Peace" speeches embolden terrorists
President Bush is undermining criticism vital to the survival of Western civilization and empowering terrorist leaders by proclaiming Islam a "religion of peace," says one of the most outspoken critics to emerge from the Muslim world in recent years. Wafa Sultan, a native of Syria, seized attention worldwide in February when her electrifying interview on Al-Jazeera television spread across the Internet through a video clip produced by the Middle East Media Research Institute.

Named this year to Time Magazine's list of 100 influential people in the world, Sultan spoke with WND after addressing a symposium on radical Islam and terrorism in Las Vegas hosted by America's Truth Forum. She understands Bush's position as president and believes he is only trying to be diplomatic, but insists, nevertheless, his words are "empowering" Muslim leaders whose ultimate aim is for Islamic law to govern the world. "I believe he undermines our credibility by saying that," said Sultan. "We came from Islam, and we know what kind of religion Islam is. In her February Al-Jazeera appearance, which has brought her death threats, she asserted the world is witnessing "a battle between modernity and barbarism which Islam will lose."

Sultan, who identifies herself as a secular ex-Muslim, told WND she would urge Bush to take a closer look at Islamic culture and its general embrace of violence as a means of establishment and expansion. "Facts are very stubborn things. Facts are facts," she said. "If you are not familiar with Islamic culture, how can you claim Islam is a peaceful religion?" The White House declined WND's request to respond to Sultan's comments.

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Posted by: Jackal || 11/18/2006 11:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [598 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sultan, who identifies herself as a secular ex-Muslim, told WND she would urge Bush to take a closer look at Islamic culture and its general embrace of violence as a means of establishment and expansion. "Facts are very stubborn things. Facts are facts," she said. "If you are not familiar with Islamic culture, how can you claim Islam is a peaceful religion?" The White House declined WND's request to respond to Sultan's comments.

"W", knows exactly what his advisors tell him, and considering that CYA and PC are the names of the game in government employment, you can bet he does not have the unvarnished truth.

Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/18/2006 12:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Yep. He's purdy stupid, not brilliant and insightful like we are.
Posted by: .com || 11/18/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Breathing emboldens Islamic terrorists.

Nothing new to see... move on.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/18/2006 14:13 Comments || Top||

#4  .com, how do you reconcile your own view that “ Islam is a fatal human pathogen ” with your defense of how Bush continues to call it “The Religion of Peace”?

One big reason why republicans lost the midterm elections was Bush’s inadequate use of his oval pulpit in clearly delineating what a threat Islam poses to our freedom. You yourself have lamented how it took so many years for the word "Islamofascism" to finally pass his lips. Yet, despite some rather glaring errors in judgment on the president's part, you criticize those who question whether Bush is working with a complete data set or even properly operating upon it.

Your own views of Islam closely parallel those of Wafa Sultan with respect to how:
She understands Bush's position as president and believes he is only trying to be diplomatic, but insists, nevertheless, his words are "empowering" Muslim leaders whose ultimate aim is for Islamic law to govern the world. "I believe he undermines our credibility by saying that," said Sultan. "We came from Islam, and we know what kind of religion Islam is. In her February Al-Jazeera appearance, which has brought her death threats, she asserted the world is witnessing "a battle between modernity and barbarism which Islam will lose."

Many times you have stated that moderate Muslims are of no value in overcoming jihadist terrorism. You described Fjordman’s article, “Why We Cannot Rely on Moderate Muslims” by saying; “ This is the definitive word.”

Do you argue against the notion that calling Islam “The Religion of Peace” improperly ameliorates its well-deserved reputation for savagery and barbarism? Is not the time well past and gone for using such overly delicate diplomacy to avoid offending infamously paper-thin Muslim sensibilities? After five long years of thundering silence, haven’t the vast majority of moderate Muslims shown themselves to be nothing more than tacit or covert facilitators of Islamic terrorism?

It does not further public awareness of Islam’s threat to freedom when Bush says:
"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war." In an October 2002 speech in Washington, the president said, "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

While we agree on how people must take Bush at his word with respect to Iran not acquiring nuclear weapons, that promise is not beholden to nor reliant upon intentionally understating the threat that Islam represents to America’s security. In fact, doing so seems, more than anything, to discourage any garnering of public support for the Iran interdiction. Calling Islam “The Religion of Peace” does exactly that and I wonder if you agree with Wafa Sultan that:
While many Muslim leaders and non-Muslim apologists insist terrorists have "hijacked" Islam, Sultan asserts people such as those who kidnapped and beheaded Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in 2002 are "true Muslims." Osama bin Laden and other terrorist leaders are simply following the example of Muhammad, who "committed the most brutal acts against those who opposed him," she said.

Mick, I’m interested in how you see Bush’s “born again” syndrome playing into all of this. Do you have the time to elaborate on that?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/18/2006 14:59 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm not Bush's spokesdink. I am, however, an RB resident and am free to respond to posts which lack minimal common sense.

My direct, this is all you get, response is...

Common sense. It's intuitively obvious to the casual observer that (at least) 2 things are at work:

1) He, and every other world leader, would rather not fight them all, all at once, if it can be helped. They are everywhere, including here, in substantial numbers. Will it make any difference? No one can say definitively - at least not in the real world - which brings us to #2...

2) He lives and operates, as President, in the real world, not in the blogosphere where anyone can say anything, without regard for reality, and there is absolutely no accountability or consequences, no matter how absurd, other than ridicule.
Posted by: .com || 11/18/2006 15:17 Comments || Top||

#6  I would hope that the President holds a realistic assessment of Islam - as it is - but is using diplomacy to keep US troops in the Middle East while preparations to smash Shiite power are put into effect. If not, a future ICBM threat to the US Homeland is a certainty. The fact that the Dems tossed aside Pelosi's bone to Murtha, suggests that there is some bi-partisanship on Iran.

Remember: if Iran's Ayatollahs lose power, then so do those in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Then elites in the rest of the Middle East will turn on the Sunni Salafists.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/18/2006 15:19 Comments || Top||

#7  Of course he does. Sheesh.

I'm done. Happy trails.
Posted by: .com || 11/18/2006 15:26 Comments || Top||

#8  The .com has graced us with his presence
*bows down*
Oh no!!! Fools!!! You have caused Him to run away!!!
Posted by: Slinelet Ebbuse4451 || 11/18/2006 15:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Lol... fuckwit.
Posted by: .com || 11/18/2006 15:38 Comments || Top||

#10  *gasp!*
He spoke!
Bow down! Bow down!
Do not make eye contact
Posted by: Hupoger Thineper3902 || 11/18/2006 15:46 Comments || Top||

#11  .com, there's a huge gulf that separates painting a false picture by calling Islam "The Religion of Peace" and gratuitously antagonizing the whole of Islam all at once. While Bush may be eschewing the more abrasive pole, that does not require him to rely solely upon the other.

The introduction of "Islamofascism", welcome as it was, represented so small a step in such a belated fashion that Bush quite possibly smothered the exact sort of public awareness he needed to propel popular support for the Iraq campaign and the Global War on Terrorism. Broader recognition of this threat might well have resulted in more republican votes or, at least, minimizing the number of those who abandoned the platform.

For how strongly you support Bush's agenda, to turn around and ridicule my observation of this discrepancy in the way his message and agenda do not balance is less than amusing. A similar example is his belated jettisoning of Rumsfeld. Intentionally or not, he again quite possibly sabotaged his own party's chances of winning.

I don't ask nor do I expect you to explain Bush's own reasoning but it's fairly clear that his political calculus contains some major missteps.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/18/2006 16:02 Comments || Top||

#12  Get yourself a real name and maybe you'll be more worthy, Hupoger Thineper3902. Otherwise, you're just a Zenster/Mick wannabe in hiding.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/18/2006 16:02 Comments || Top||

#13  .com - you have fans. Penis envy fans
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 16:02 Comments || Top||

#14  "Bush's "Religion of Peace" speeches embolden terrorists"

My advice to some, lurk more, post less, get your own blog.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/18/2006 16:03 Comments || Top||

#15  SPOD: My advice to some, lurk more, post less, get your own blog.

Some people mature faster than others. Someday he'll see why he should use a nym and focus on the topic. Until then, he'll get his rocks off with random sniping and consider the effects important. The trolls out there should put this in their tickle file for review in another 10 years and see what they think of their behavior when they have a better perspective on things.
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 16:12 Comments || Top||

#16  Perhaps Bush's "Religion of Peace" references are meant as a counterbalance to those who would indiscriminately "off" Islamic clerics, deport all Muslims including U.S. citizens, and threaten the entire Muslim Middle East with genocide as a punishment for any significant terrorist act against the U.S. Such homicidal lunatics hardly need encouragement for their ethnic cleansing aspirations.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/18/2006 16:13 Comments || Top||

#17  Peace bros. In my vast experience, I've noticed that shit happens in cycles. We anti-Islamics reached a peek and now we are ebbing for another surge. The mussies will surge ahead for a moment, causing our inevitable reactions.
In Lebanon, the Hezbollah fired numerous rockets into Israel, a peek, then went underground, an ebb. Then, the Israelis reentered Gaza and now they peek.
If you chart the peeks and valleys, you can draw a line across the peeks and determine the amount of escalation, and draw a line across the valleys and determine the loss of resolve. Everything is still on the increase. We have to strengthen our resolve, we have to prepare to fight a longer, broader war. Too bad our politicians are such assholes. We don't need a draft, we need a drive to boost our numbers. Too bad our politicians are such assholes.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/18/2006 17:13 Comments || Top||

#18  I thought peeking wasn't allowed. :-)
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#19  I see Darrell Ethnic Cleasing, with honors... is here...

Well, Darrell, perhaps you are aware that "muslim" is not an ethnicity, correct?

It is as if you wanted to play a race card, but it is less in fashion nowadays, so you found a good replacement -- "ethnic cleansing".
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/18/2006 19:04 Comments || Top||

#20  I’m interested in how you see Bush’s “born again” syndrome playing into all of this. Do you have the time to elaborate on that?

Zenman, when someone is born again there is this whole forgiveness and acceptance thing, a renewal if you will. We're all sinners and we should forgive and be tolerant...etc. etc. Well, Bush, if he is truly born-again is going to find it very difficult to believe Islam is evil.

He would rather believe that it is only a small number of followers of an extreme interpretation, versus the reality that the Islamists are following a literal interpretation. Once you accept the scope of the problem(s) related to Islam, how far along it is in achieving its goals, how blind a sizable portion of our culture is and just what it is going to take to pull that fat out of the fire...well it's enough to make you want to bury your head and pretend it is not there.

Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/18/2006 19:09 Comments || Top||

#21  We anti-Islamics reached a peek and now we are ebbing for another surge.

This word "peek", it does not mean what you think it does! ;-)

Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/18/2006 19:16 Comments || Top||

#22  peek, peak, for Christ's sake, do I correct your spelling ?
Posted by: wxjames || 11/18/2006 19:29 Comments || Top||

#23  peek, peak, for Christ's sake, do I correct your spelling?

Lighten up! It was meant in a humorous vein. Ever watch the Princess Bride? There's your clue. Oh, and get a dictionary.
Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/18/2006 21:16 Comments || Top||

#24  Careful, you might pique him.

Sorry, couldn't resist! :-)
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 21:36 Comments || Top||

#25  Zenman, when someone is born again there is this whole forgiveness and acceptance thing, a renewal if you will. We're all sinners and we should forgive and be tolerant...etc. etc. Well, Bush, if he is truly born-again is going to find it very difficult to believe Islam is evil.

I'll repeat my (hopefully, logical) argument again to you and Zen (more aimed at Zen) about this whole Bush's "born againism" being the root of all his language. It is NOT, I repeat, NOT the root of him using terms like "the Religion of Peace." I hold out hope that Bush (and I believe he does) knows what Islam REALLY is all about (a death cult intent on world domination). In fact, I'd argue the more "real" he (Bush) is in his Christianity (even without 9/11), the more he truly sees Islam for what it is. In fact, when you get down to it, any religion's fundamentalists would say that all other religions but their own are evil, because they are false. Jesus said it himself, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me." Pretty divisive words, if I say so myself.

Listen, I've heard numerous preachers (who have actually spent time with Bush one-on-one or in small groups) say that Bush is the real deal on his belief system. Supposedly, he reads his Bible every morning and spends time with "the man upstairs." I truly believe the he knows how wicked Islam is. The problem comes with pulling the rest of the nation along and waking them up to the threat that Islam wields. He could've said, "Islam is a wicked, false religion who follows a two-bit thief and pedophile that invented a religion to satisfy his earthly lusts." But, he would've lost probably 95% of the nation after spouting off like that. His main problem is being influenced by the P.C. culture that infects and permeates everything inside the beltway. It truly has nothing to do with his religion.

To further this logic, let's argue the opposite. Let's say President Clinton had still been in office on 9/11. Even though he appeared to be a "born-again" Christian, his words and deeds say otherwise. I'd imagine everyone here, including you, Zen, would say Clinton's a "fake" Christian who only carried his bible to church in front of the cameras. Could you imagine him saying anything like the above either? Or, heck, let's say some Hindu was President...could you imagine him/her saying anything like the unvarnished truth above? No way! Not in this day and age. Your personal hatred of Bush's religiosity is getting in the way of clear vision, my friend.

Again, I've about come to your side of the fence on the results of this PC-speak. I truly believe that when the jihadis get nukes (or other WMDs) they will use them and they will force us to respond in a way that is a lot more painful than if we just "lanced the boil" now. But, your personal hatred of the Christian right is blinding you too, to some logical facts. Again, as a "born-again" believer myself, I truly feel all other religions are evil, because they are NOT of God and are false. Yet, in today's world there's only 1 religion that is the "root cause" of about 99% of the skirmishes going on. And, it ain't Christianity either, my friend.
Posted by: BA || 11/18/2006 22:55 Comments || Top||

#26  JET LI > movie HERO, yet another NOT-AN-OLIVER STONE film from the 1960's NOT starring MADONNA, Osama's WHITNEY, AEROSMITH, or a TEXAS-SIZED ASTEROID, etal. > "The ultimate/final duty of a Warrior, My Emperor, is to [know when?] PUT DOWN HIS SWORD". or words to tha effect. A true warrior trains for war, but KILLS FOR PEACE, FOR HONOR, FOR JUSTICE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/18/2006 23:15 Comments || Top||

#27  Actually, President Clinton has read several translations of the Bible cover to cover, and has stated preferences. Which doesn't make him a good Christian, just a more knowledgeable hypocrite.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/18/2006 23:27 Comments || Top||

Lebanese speaker voices opposition to street demonstrations
BEIRUT: Speaker Nabih Berri has voiced opposition to street demonstrations to topple the government, according to an Al-Jamaa al-Islamiyya official who met with him on Friday, as Lebanese politicians continued to navigate the political crisis gripping the country. Assad Harmoush said that Berri had "refused to go down on the street" in an attempt to force the creation of a national unity government. And thank heavens for that.

Berri, head of the Shiite Amal Movement, also met Friday with Egyptian Ambassador Hussein Darrar.

Darrar said after the meeting that Berri had "several formulas and many suggestions to get Lebanon out of the political stalemate it is passing through." These will be announced as soon as the IRG courier arrives.

Separately, Premier Fouad Siniora met with Spain's ambassador to Lebanon, who said the premier has assured him "that the Shiite must have an effective participation in the Cabinet." That's rich. Who tugged Zappy's leash?

Lebanon's five Shiite ministers, representing Hizbullah and Amal, resigned from the Cabinet one week ago, demanding a "real" say in the decision-making process. That's what all the dictators say just before the putsch.

Should Hizbullah and its allies decide to hold demonstrations, they will have to let the government know in advance, Acting Interior Minister Ahmed Fatfat said on Friday.

In a telephone interview with The Daily Star, Fatfat said the law was clear that "those organizing a demonstration must inform the government's representative at least 72 hours before they take to the streets."

"They don't need a license; all they have to do is inform the appropriate official," he said. An email, or even a phone call is fine.

"This is needed so that the security forces would be able to make their preparations and accompany such an action." Should we suppose that Minister Fatfat is referring to government security forces?

The minister, a member of the anti-Syrian parliamentary coalition, said earlier in a televised interview that "there is an impression among the March 14 Forces that a Syrian-Iranian axis is trying to settle its scores in Lebanon." The secret's out!

For his part, Hizbullah Executive Council head Sayyed Hashem Safieddine said on Friday that the government had two choices: "Either surrender to the people's rejection and return to the principles of true partnership, or wait for the decision that will bring a thousand, thousand merciless democratic ways to topple the fallen and unconstitutional group." Gee, and Speaker Berri was just tellin' Ambassador Darrar that he's got pockets full of formulas and suggestions to end this mess.

Safieddine said the government had "underestimated a national insect on Monday" when the Cabinet approved a UN draft to form an international court into the assassination of former Premier Rafik Hariri despite the resignation of its Shiite members.

In a statement released late Thursday, the March 14 Forces said it was "determined" to prevent any attempts "to foil UN Security Council Resolution 1701, the international tribunal or Paris III [January's international donors' conference] at the expense of foreign interests."

In related comments, Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea said Friday that efforts to topple the government could lead to assassination attempts against Cabinet ministers.

He did not elaborate no need - there's recent precedent , but said that Syria was determined to stop the formation of the international tribunal.

Geagea noted the fact that should three additional ministers somehow be lost, the Cabinet could not achieve a quorum.

"There are no three ministers who will resign of course, but someone might think of sacking them, in quotes, by pushing them to a final resignation," he told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"I think there might be operations targeting ministers and I take this opportunity to say it publicly and especially to tell the ministers to take all precautions," Geagea said. If Hez-Amahl-Syria-Iran off three ministers in order to deny a cabinet quorum, wouldn't a reasonable person declare the situation beyond the scope of Robert's Rules Of Order? ... but then this is Lebanon. Let us continue ...

The Christian leader once more warned that small, pro-Syrian groups could incite violence should demonstrations be held.

"Unfortunately there are some small sides, not the big ones, who might go this far because they are still linked to the Syrian regime," he said. "It is very clear that this regime has taken a decision to try to stop the international court even through causing strife in Lebanon." - With Agencies
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Iran Ready To Cooperate, Ahmadinejad Tells Prodi
(AKI) - Iran is ready to cooperate with the international community on the most important Middle Eastern dossiers, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told Italian prime minister Romano Prodi in a letter delivered Friday by deputy foreign minister Said Jalili, according to the online edition of Rome-daily La Repubblica. Quoting government sources, the paper said that at a meeting in Rome, Prodi and Italian foreign minister Massimo D'Alema told Jalili that Iran needed to cooperate in resolving Middle Eastern conflicts and contributing to stability in the area if it wanted to gain regional power status.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Iran is ready to cooperate in solving the Jewish Problem that was bothering you Europeans for 2000 years. Together, Italian PM, we shall avenge the deaths of Roman legionaries brutally murdered by Jewish Zealots!
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 6:42 Comments || Top||

Rafsanjani to Bush: Iran not 'axis of evil'
Former President Hashemi Rafsanjani on Friday urged the United States to exclude the Islamic country from its so-called "axis of evil" and warned Washington not to treat Iran the same way it has Iraq and Afghanistan.

US President George W. "Bush made a strategic mistake. He should exclude Iran from the circle (axis of evil) that he has made," Rafsanjani told the crowd in Teheran during Friday's prayer ceremony. Rafsanjani also warned the US not to consider military intervention in Iran, saying Washington's "iron fist policy" has failed. "It will be dangerous if the US thinks that it can behave toward Iran in the same way that it has treated Afghanistan and Iraq," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [299 views] Top|| File under:

#1  OK, he's technically right, you need for an axis at least two and he did not mention Syria.

It's a pivot of evil.
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/18/2006 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran wants to be treated as na equal > GUARDIAN.com > USA as a power must learn to manage IMPERIAL DECLINE, espec in comparison to RUSSIA-CHINA [Asia Times' RISING EAST].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/18/2006 0:40 Comments || Top||

#3  "It will be dangerous if the US thinks that it can behave toward Iran in the same way that it has treated Afghanistan and Iraq," he said.

This cretin is absolutely right. We'd be idiots to put any boots on the ground like in Afghanistan or Iraq. This time, all we should do is bust up the place into flinders like an Irish donnybrook and wipe our @sses with their turbans thumb our noses at them on the way out.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/18/2006 2:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Like my new turban? It's still got that "new" smell!
Posted by: Rafsanjani || 11/18/2006 2:19 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL Raf! yuck
Posted by: RD || 11/18/2006 2:31 Comments || Top||

#6  This cretin is absolutely right. We'd be idiots to put any boots on the ground like in Afghanistan or Iraq. This time, all we should do is bust up the place into flinders like an Irish donnybrook

I vote for biologicals to cause crop failure in their staple crops, Zen.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 6:47 Comments || Top||

#7  I thought Captain Kangaroo was dead, right?
Posted by: Raj || 11/18/2006 8:41 Comments || Top||

#8  It's a pivot fulcrum of evil.

There, that's better! 8-)
Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/18/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#9  #7 I thought Captain Kangaroo was dead, right?
Posted by Raj 2006-11-18 08:41

Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/18/2006 17:32 Comments || Top||

#10  LOL Raj. Come to think of it, you never see Mr. Greenjeans and Amadinnerjacket together, do you? Hey.....
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 18:14 Comments || Top||

#11  I'd like to drop about 900 of my special ping-pong balls on this sucker.
Posted by: Mister Moose || 11/18/2006 20:10 Comments || Top||

Lebanese Sunnis urged to confront Hezbollah
A statement posted on Friday on an Internet website used by Al Qaeda’s branch in Iraq called upon Lebanese Sunnis to confront the Shia group Hezbollah which it accused of wanting to dominate the country. ‘We call on our brothers in Lebanon ... to face up to Hezbollah and the hatred of the rafidha (a pejorative term for Shia Muslims) and prepare for a confrontation,’ appealed the statement from the ‘Mujahedin of Lebanon’.

The tone and wording of the statement is similar to that of messages from the Al Qaeda branch in Iraq. ‘Today they want to dominate Lebanon in its totality, allying themselves with the crusaders in Lebanon, to definitively eliminate the Sunni community. The rafidha should know we are ready to combat them,’ said the statement, which also slammed Iran and Syria.

The statement accused Hezbollah of being under the control of Syria, which it charged had opened the door to Iranian influence in the country. A message last week purportedly from the head of Al Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Hamza Al Muhajer, called on Sunnis to stand up to Iran, Syria and Hezbollah.
Posted by: Fred || 11/18/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [385 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey! Red on red? Popcorn!
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/18/2006 0:37 Comments || Top||

#2  We'll get right on that.
Posted by: Lebanese Sunnis || 11/18/2006 0:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Lebanese Sunnis urged to confront Hezbollah

we'll sit this one out...
Posted by: Wally || 11/18/2006 1:01 Comments || Top||

#4  One of these fine days Wally's going to bring out the big wood food sledge of doom.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/18/2006 11:39 Comments || Top||

#5  wonder if it's possible to iron out those wrinkles....jeebus
Posted by: Frank G || 11/18/2006 11:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Every one one of those wrinkles is dearly bought and paid for. Wally lives in a very dangerous neighborhood.
Posted by: mrp || 11/18/2006 11:48 Comments || Top||

Terror Networks
The Militant Ideology Atlas (pdf)
Hat Tip: Robert J. Avrech @ Seraphic Secret
EFL - This is just a tidbit
The Militant Ideology Atlas identifies the most influential thinkers in the Jihadi Movement (see appendices) and delineates the movement’s key ideological vulnerabilities.* It situates the Jihadi Movement within the various Muslim constituencies that Jihadi leaders seek to influence and persuade. These constituencies can be envisioned as a series of nesting circles (Diagram 1: Jihadi Constituencies). Each constituency is responsive to leaders in the broader constituencies of which it is a part, but each also has its own set of thinkers that are best positioned to influence their base.
The largest constituency is comprised of Muslims, people who follow the Qur’an and the example of Muhammad. This includes Sunnis (people who follow the example of the Prophet) and Shi`is (people who follow the example of the Prophet and his descendents through his son-in-law Ali), and ranges from secularists to fundamentalists.
Most here at Rantburg won't find anything suprising - but it provides a nice list of who's who in jihadi literature.
Posted by: Chuck || 11/18/2006 05:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [284 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does the Pentagon has one like this with targeting instructions added?
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/18/2006 7:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Look at Appendix II. Almost all the wackos come from Egypt Saudi Arabia and Palestine. I hope that is reflected in the targeting insturctions.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/18/2006 8:31 Comments || Top||

#3  NS - "Almost all the wackos come from Egypt Saudi Arabia and Palestine."

And they all (almost) adjoin Israel - clearly jihadism is a Zionist plot. (May I have some more Kool-Aid please.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/18/2006 10:40 Comments || Top||

Home Front Economy
Oil tumbles to lowest level since June 2005
Posted by: Glomose Thaitch9317 || 11/18/2006 03:10 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I blame Bush, of course.
Posted by: eLarson || 11/18/2006 11:11 Comments || Top||

#2  I question the timing.
Posted by: GORT || 11/18/2006 12:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Shh, don't let the liberals know we're watching them. They've just discovered that Bush lowered gas prices just before the election and now they are coming back up to their natural levels. All his oil contacts, you know. Of course. When gas prices drop again, I wonder what the conspiracy will be this time. Let's watch! :-)
Posted by: gorb || 11/18/2006 14:38 Comments || Top||

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Wed 2006-11-15
  Nasrallah vows campaign to force gov't change
Tue 2006-11-14
  Khost capture was Zawahiri deputy?
Mon 2006-11-13
  Palestinians agree on nonentity as PM
Sun 2006-11-12
  Five Shia ministers resign from Lebanese cabinet
Sat 2006-11-11
  Haniyeh offers to resign for aid
Fri 2006-11-10
  US Rejects UN Resolutions on Gaza Violence as One-Sided
Thu 2006-11-09
  Indon Muslims on trial over beheading young girls
Wed 2006-11-08
  Israeli Forces Pull Out of Beit Hanoun
Tue 2006-11-07
  Al Qaeda terrorist captured in Afghanistan
Mon 2006-11-06
  Pakistani AF officers tried to kill Perv
Sun 2006-11-05
  Saddam Sentenced to Death
Sat 2006-11-04
  More Military Humor Aimed at Kerry

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