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Somali Islamists:death for Muslims skipping prayers
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Afghanistan
Kandahar Peaceful Enough For Reconstruction To Begin
While the Taliban threat persists, Canadian soldiers have made enough progress in Kandahar province for the international community to plan new health clinics, roads and other aid projects for the troubled region, a top military commander says.

Hard fighting and patrolling by Canadian and Afghan troops have put the Taliban on the run, allowing for a switch in priorities to reconstruction, said Lt.-Col. Ian Hope, commander of the Canadian battle group. "In Kandahar province the Taliban are on the defensive," Hope said Thursday. "We have been able to organize and attract large donors back to Kandahar province and we are going to see in the next few months considerable sums of money being dedicated to improving economics and social infrastructure."

Such aid projects are considered to be key in winning the support of the local people, many of whom are mistrustful of both the Taliban and the long-term commitment of the international community in Afghanistan.
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Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Horn
Somali Islamists vow death for Muslims skipping prayers
Islamists vowed to execute Muslims who skip prayers as they tightened their religious grip on the Somali capital Mogadishu and again Thursday rejected government calls for foreign peacekeepers. Under an edict issued by a leading Mogadishu cleric, the five-times daily prayer required by the Quran will be enforced under penalty of death, a move that appears to confirm the hardline nature of the city's Sharia courts. "He who does not perform prayers will be considered as infidel and Sharia law orders that that person be killed," said Sheikh Abdalla Ali, a founder and high-ranking official in the Supreme Islamic Council of Somalia (SICS).
Posted by: Fred || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [324 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm glad I'm not a slave of blood-thirsty Allah. Note that Ayaan Hirsi Ali escaped from Somalia.

Meanwhile, who are we at war with? Terror? or Islamofascists?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 07/07/2006 1:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Good.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/07/2006 4:21 Comments || Top||

#3  SICS SICS lunatics.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/07/2006 10:33 Comments || Top||

#4  as long as they don't have WMDs or subvert other countries, the Islamists can torture their population with Islam -
Posted by: mhw || 07/07/2006 19:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, shit, I guess they might as well watch the friggin soccer game then...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 22:54 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Israel's Tactics On Syria Trigger Muslim Brotherhood Leader's Ire
Cairo, 7 July (AKI) - The spiritual leader of Egypt's outlawed but tolerated Muslim Brotherhood movement, Mohammad Mahdi Akef, has spoken out against Israel's recent military muscle-flexing towards the Syrian government - which it accuses of harbouring members of militant Palestinian ruling Islamist group Hamas. "The Israeli warplanes that last week flew over the presidential palace in Damascus contained a message to the entire region from the Zionist regime indicating its new method of negotiating with Arab states," Akef said.
Works for me
Israeli fighter jets on 20 June flew over Syrian president Basher al-Assad's residence, while he was at home, in an apparent act of intimidation aimed at obtaining his co-operation in securing the release of Gilad Shalit, the 19-year-old soldier kidnapped by militants on 25 June and, it is believed, is still being held captive.

"The security of all Arab countries is directly linked to the security of Palestinians," Akef added. He invited all Muslims to mobilise and protest against "The progressive abandonment of the Palestinian people shown by the Arab regimes."

Israel last week launched a major military operation in Gaza to free Shalit in which over 20 Palestinans and one Israeli have so far been killed and scores of Palestinian officials detained. Observers believe Assad may pressure the exiled Hamas leadership in the Syrian capital, Damascus, to order militants linked to the movement in Gaza to release Shalit. Hamas' exiled leadership in Damascus, including political bureau chief, Khaled Mashaal, who Israel has accused of masterminding Shalit's kidnapping, are "taking seriously" threats made by Israel that it would target them for assassination, a Hamas source told Adnkronos International (AKI) last week.
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2006 09:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [256 views] Top|| File under:

#1  AKI needs a better editor. How could Israeli jets buzz Basher on the 20th for something that happened on the 25th? Sounds like the Maureen Dowd/ Dan Blather school of journalism.
Posted by: Rightwing || 07/07/2006 9:35 Comments || Top||

#2  "Israel's Tactics On Syria Trigger Muslim Brotherhood Leader's Ire"

That's not a bug, that's a feature.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/07/2006 11:20 Comments || Top||

#3  "outlawed but tolerated"

Makes as much sense as most things in the area, I suppose.
Posted by: mojo || 07/07/2006 11:28 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Kingdom Not Funding Somalia’s Islamic Courts, Sultan Says
Crown Prince Sultan, deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation, denied charges that the Kingdom is offering assistance to Somalia’s Islamic Court Union (ICU).
"No, no! Certainly not!"
The allegations stem, in part, from comments made by Jendayi Frazer, the head of the Bureau of African Affairs at the US State Department, during a June 29 hearing at the House’s International Relations Committee. Frazer did not directly accuse the Saudi government of funding Somalia’s ICU, but said that money is flowing from the Kingdom and Yemen in support of the Islamic courts, which recently ousted the faltering transitional government of a country that has been in a state of anarchy since the early 1990s.
So it's not the Soddy government, it's just individual Soddies...
The United States is openly supporting the transitional government factions that oppose the ICU, and has placed the head of the Islamic courts, Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, on its list of Al-Qaeda associates. US officials claim that ICU control of Somalia would result in creating a terrorist haven in East Africa.
Posted by: Fred || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [250 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe the "Kingdom" isn't passing direct aid, from the petro-dollar extortion of the West, but the Sauds give free reign to black sheep in the family.

The wild card: many of the Somalis that we took in as immigrants, are supporting the ICU. In the 'eighties, Salvadorians used their refugee status to financially aid anti-US terrorists in their home country. I don't always put security over liberty, but we shouldn't be giving refugee status to the enemy.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/07/2006 1:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, going by experience, given that a majority of the 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, and that Islam is The Religion of Peace, I guess I will have to accept every single word coming out of Sultan's mouth.

It's not as if they practice Taqiyya or some variant of profoundly ingrained dishonesty...
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 07/07/2006 1:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Were his lips moving?
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/07/2006 4:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Were his lips moving?

No, they fell off.
Posted by: DMFD || 07/07/2006 18:55 Comments || Top||


Britain
Muslim mission: one man's campaign to prevent more violence
MPAC — the the Muslim Public Affairs Committee U.K. — was formed in 2000 with the aim of giving Muslims a voice in British society, engaging them more in British life, especially by getting them involved in politics. The emergence of England's homegrown 7/7 bombers made MPAC's campaign all the more urgent. That bloody day last summer brought the need for change home to 30-year-old Yorkshire-born Shabbir Dastgir, who's been a member of MPAC since the beginning.

He recalls his shock at learning one of the bombers had spent time in his own community in Birkby, a suburb of Huddersfield, Yorkshire. But when he reflected on it, Dastgir says he wasn't really surprised "because our community just does not have an infrastructure that deals with modern-day developments."

"It's very, very village oriented, the mosque elders," he says. "Their mentalities are very, very much back in India, Pakistan." The way Dastgir sees it, Muslims themselves must take responsibility for their own alienation. Ultimately, he believes, Muslims must account for the outrage of 7/7.
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Posted by: Threremp Sholutle2252 || 07/07/2006 13:01 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [346 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Their mentalities are very, very much back in India, Pakistan."

Too bad their asses aren't...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 23:15 Comments || Top||

#2  perhaps cheap one-way fares with confiscation of passports, citizenship?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2006 23:42 Comments || Top||


Britain remembers London bombings one year on
The nation fell silent today at noon to remember the innocent victims of the July 7 London bombings. Survivors and bereaved relatives at the blast sites were joined by millions in offices, shops, factories and homes across the country to observe a two minute silence.

It was the focal point of today's commemorative events to honour the victims of the suicide attacks, which killed 52 innocent people and left more than 700 injured.

Tony Blair observed the silence with members of the emergency services who led the response to the bombings. The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall observed the silence at the Order of the Thistle service at St Giles' Cathedral in Edinburgh.

This morning, at the time of the bombings, family, friends, transport staff, police officers and passers-by gathered at the four sites of the bombs to pay tribute to the victims and laid flowers in an act of remembrance. ...
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2006 09:31 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [253 views] Top|| File under:

#1  20 minutes ago, CNN International did a lengthy story on today's 7/7 memorials in London. And then interviewed Tariq Ramadan, giving him equally lenthgy airtime.

One of Ramadan's main points was that Afghanistan & Iraq are to blame for terrorism in Europe -- a popular mantra here in Eurabia. But how convenient that the muzzie spin masters are always able to point to some pre-existing conflict -- started by the muzzies themselves -- to justify yet another jihad thousands of miles away.

Unbelievable. Tariq Ramadan?! On the anniversary of 7/7?! Like having Goebbels come explain to the British public how understandable it is, really, that the Nazis bombed London.
Posted by: Jolung Ebbolutle3297 || 07/07/2006 16:48 Comments || Top||


Britain prepares to remember 7/7
Remember.
The UK is preparing to mark the first anniversary of the London bombings that claimed 52 lives and injured hundreds. At midday, a two-minute silence will be observed across the country, including Wimbledon and other events.

The bells of St Paul's Cathedral will toll for those who died, at the times of the bombings and after the silence.

A public ceremony will be held later in London's Regent's Park, with musical performances and readings, and a recital of the names of the dead.

Friday's remembrance events are organised by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) and are intended to unite families, survivors and Londoners in remembrance. From 0800 BST until 1600 BST the public will be invited to lay a purple carnation within a giant floral mosaic in Queen Mary's Gardens, Regent's Park. The flowers will be provided.

Later, survivors and the bereaved will complete the centre of the mosaic with yellow gerberas, and the members of the public can pay their respects over the weekend.

Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell and London mayor Ken Livingstone will lay flowers at King's Cross station at the exact time of the attacks. Mr Livingstone told the BBC News website that Friday was a time to remember those individuals whose lives were ruined by the attack and a time to be proud of London's unique character, which was a source of envy to the bombers.

Other events on Friday will be held in private for victims' families and survivors, including the unveiling of memorial plaques at the affected Tube stations and at Tavistock Square, the scene of the bus blast.

A Book of Tributes, with a foreword from the Prince of Wales and tributes from the bereaved, will also be unveiled in a private event.

A helpline run by the 7 July Assistance Centre will be manned 24 hours a day over the anniversary period until Monday 10 July.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [246 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You're in my thoughts today, cousins.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/07/2006 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Can ya do something about the Islamofascists in your midst? 16,000 seems like something ya wanna act on preemptively.
Posted by: Captain America || 07/07/2006 1:23 Comments || Top||

#3  You sure this will not hurt the feelings of the Muslim community?
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/07/2006 4:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Root cause: the Koran terror manual.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/07/2006 5:47 Comments || Top||


UK Muslim 7/7 Linkage: Root Cause Think For Dhimmis
London - An influential Muslim leader in Britain Thursday accused Prime Minister Tony Blair of playing an 'unhelpful blame game' by suggesting that moderate Muslims were doing too little to combat terrorism in their communities.

Muhammad Abdul Bari, the Secretary-General of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), a large and overwhelmingly moderate umbrella organization, said Blair's remarks could hamper the good work being done since the London bombings a year ago...

Blair risked 'obscuring the real reasons' for last year's London attacks, adding that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had an impact on the younger generations of Muslims in particular. 'Blaming a community, especially those who have been working for the last five years to bring sanity in the community, bring peace and harmony in the community, is not helpful to us,' Bari told the BBC.

He condemned the violence of last July but called for a public inquiry to reveal the factors behind it. That would allow Britain to move on from an 'unhealthy debate' focusing only on extremists, added Bari.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [248 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My, aren't the moderates touchy. I wonder what that means.
Posted by: grb || 07/07/2006 2:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Thats because the 'Moderates' secretly support the extremist in ther midst.People have to wake up and realise this.They want Sharia law also!!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 07/07/2006 5:30 Comments || Top||

#3  or because the moderates are intimidated

or because they really aren't moderate

Posted by: mhw || 07/07/2006 14:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Export them to the South Georgia Islands, and leave them there. Forever. Be sure to tell them to bring their swim things.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/07/2006 14:43 Comments || Top||

#5  "Are penguins halal?"
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#6  It's really quite simple, pal. You can bitch and moan to your hearts content, and vote and everything. But when you start bombing subways, all bets are off, and we stomp your jihadi asses into little greasy spots. Claro?
Posted by: mojo || 07/07/2006 17:32 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Georgian President Praises US Freedom Agenda
The conventional wisdom is that the U.S. enjoys little international support as we vigorously wage war on terror and deter aggression. But we have fast friends among those who know freedom has a price.

In an underreported visit to the White House this week, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili delivered a moving tribute to U.S. efforts to promote and defend freedom. "Your freedom agenda does indeed work," he told President Bush Wednesday. "You can see it in Georgia. We are seeing it in Iraq. And please stay there. Please fight there until the end.

"We will stay with you there," Saakashvili promised, "whatever it takes, because your success in Iraq is success for countries like Georgia. It's a success for every individual that loves freedom, every individual that wants security, to live in a more secure world for himself, herself or their children."

Unlike America's many critics in Europe, Saakashvili has actually risked his skin for his own people's liberty. He resigned his powerful post as justice minister in 2001 because corruption engulfed the Shevardnadze government. He then led a wave of anti-government demonstrations that became the Rose Revolution.

We also now have a more dependable friend north of the border. After meeting with Bush Thursday, new Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper noted that in the wake of the arrest of 17 alleged terrorist plotters in Ontario last month, "it's been brought home to all of us that we face exactly the same kind of security threats and are defending exactly the same kinds of values."

Asked about North Korea's provocative long-range rocket tests, Harper commented: "I think it should be obvious when we look at this kind of threat why the United States and others would want to have a modern and flexible defense system."

America's friends and allies are on the rise. In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel supports our efforts in Iraq. Japan and the U.S. — adversaries in the bloodiest war in history — are closer than ever. India, the world's most populous democracy, was practically a Soviet ally during the Cold War. Now we enjoy the best ties with India ever.

Saakashvili said that when he stood next to Bush in Freedom Square in Tbilisi last year, "I felt like... it was vindication for all those Georgians, including my family members, who perished in the Gulag, who died fighting for their freedom, their liberty, their independence."

As more countries see that freedom is never free, America's boldness in fighting the war on terror is being vindicated too.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/07/2006 17:42 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [261 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Funny how the countries most recently liberated from totalitarianism are some of our most ardent supporters.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 07/07/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#2  It's not 'funny', it is natural. They still remember that totalitarian shit in their bones.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/07/2006 19:25 Comments || Top||

#3  I realize that, twobyfour. I didn't think I needed a /sarc tag - sorry.
Posted by: xbalanke || 07/07/2006 20:22 Comments || Top||

#4  In an underreported visit to the White House this week,

Understatement of the day...
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2006 21:47 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Taepodong-2 aimed at area off Hawaii (?)
TOKYO (Reuters) - A North Korean missile launched on Wednesday was aimed at an area of the ocean close to Hawaii, a Japanese newspaper reported on Friday.
That would have been a very big mistake.
Experts estimated the Taepodong-2 ballistic missile to have a range of up to 6,000 km, putting Alaska within its reach. Wednesday's launch apparently failed shortly after take-off and the missile landed in the sea between the Korean peninsula and Japan, a few hundred kilometres from the launch pad.

But data from U.S. and Japanese Aegis radar-equipped destroyers and surveillance aircraft on the missile's angle of take-off and altitude indicated that it was heading for waters near Hawaii, the Sankei Shimbun reported, citing multiple sources in the United States and Japan.

North Korea may have targeted Hawaii to show the United States that it was capable of landing a missile there, or because it is home to the headquarters of the U.S. Pacific fleet, the paper said. An alternative explanation might be that a missile could accidentally hit land if fired towards Alaska, the report said.
Another alternative explanation is a decided death wish on the part of the NKors.
A separate report in the Mainichi Shimbun daily cited U.S. and Japanese government officials as saying a piece of the Taepodong-2 missile fell off immediately after take-off, strengthening the view that the launch was a failure.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [251 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Note to Kimmy: don't fukcy with Don Ho tiny bubbles
Posted by: Captain America || 07/07/2006 1:25 Comments || Top||

#2  PRAVDA.ru reports that the Taepodong landed within Russia's offshore 200-mile economic zone. In any case, Hawaii = Guam-Micronesia in that the Chicoms need to control same iff they ever hope to take over 1/2-plus of CONUS-NORAM for "living space". MORE EVIDENCIA AS TO WHY ANY US DEFEAT OR FAILURE IN THE WOT WILL BE INTERPRETED BY AMER'S ENEMIES AS A DE FACTO DECLINE IN US GEOPOL-GLOBAL POWER AND INFLUENCE, INEVITABLY RESULTING IN COMMIE OR ENEMY ARMIES IN AMER BACKYARDS + DOWN MAINSTREET, ANYTOWN, MAINSTREAM USA. The Chicom defense white paper > NORAM/ALCAN/CANUSA/CONUS is future Chicom = Chinese territory. Rest assured the Commies will make no distinction between US Leftie, US Rightie, andor US Moderate-Centrist-Independen, etal. when time comes to gulag or exterminate 200 Milyuhn-plus of 300 Milyuhn Americans - mere Fascist Authoritarian Socialist Amerikkkans.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/07/2006 3:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Forgot to mention that TAIWAN is also dev and testing? one of its own missles aimed for use against China.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/07/2006 4:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Taiwan may well be worried about us doing nothing.
Posted by: grb || 07/07/2006 4:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Sounds like we need an ABM site on Oahu.
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2006 7:21 Comments || Top||

#6  The neat part is we are still at war under a UN mandate. What would it take to make things hot again?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 7:48 Comments || Top||

#7  As was mentioned yesterday, a launch toward Hawaii is natural if they are trying to place a satellite into orbit.
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2006 8:47 Comments || Top||

#8  A ballistic track toward Hawaii would be considered a threat and justify a shootdown.
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2006 8:48 Comments || Top||

#9  Taiwan may well be worried about us doing nothing.

It's also nice to have an independent actor in the mix for diplomatic purposes. "Gosh, Jintao, I'd like to help you out here, but we can't control what Taiwan does. Heck, we don't even have diplomatic relations with them, you know that."
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2006 8:50 Comments || Top||

#10  If the NKors don't preannounce launches and intentions, and rigorously follows the announce trajectory, then any launch should be shot down at our discretion.
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2006 8:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Taiwan is certain of US intervention. Why else would they not even have one full loadout of air-air missiles for their fighters?
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2006 9:02 Comments || Top||

#12  Steve you're closer to the truth than you might think.

Posted by: Oldspook || 07/07/2006 9:21 Comments || Top||

#13  A ballistic track toward Hawaii would be considered a threat and justify a shootdown.

A ballistic track toward Hawaii might be considered an attack and invite a counterforce response. President wouldn't even need to consult Congress.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 9:26 Comments || Top||

#14  What happened to the good ole days, when you had to shoot something 'straight up' to get into space??
Posted by: smn || 07/07/2006 11:48 Comments || Top||

#15  Act of war. Respond in kind.
Posted by: Iblis || 07/07/2006 12:32 Comments || Top||

#16  Oahu is too well populated. There are areas of Kauai that are totally unpopulated. Might be places on Maui, Molokai, or elsewhere. The Navy used to use Kahoolawi as a target range. It might be best to put the interceptors and radar there - it's relatively undeveloped, but full of unexploded ordinance.

Another alternative is to hit Pyongyang with 20 consecutive strikes with 10mt nukes, one ever 45 seconds, to get the burrowing moles that live deep underground.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/07/2006 14:50 Comments || Top||

#17  Of course every point within 2000 km of Oahu is close to Hawaii, there not being much else in the neighborhood, unless the wiley Norks have an attack planned on French Frigate Shoals.

Move the fleet back to SD, break out the New Jerseys, unmoth the fleet!

Or enjoy the light hearted, if nutty entertainment.
Posted by: 6 || 07/07/2006 17:12 Comments || Top||


Taepodong-2 said to have flown seven minutes
I've been said to have lost fifty pounds.
SEOUL - North Korea’s long-range Taepodong-2 missile spent seven minutes in the air, a South Korean military official said Thursday, after repeated US statements that it failed after just 42 seconds. Lee Sung-Kyu, a top intelligence officer at South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the missile had a smooth flight of 42 seconds but spent a total of seven minutes in the air over the Sea of Japan (East Sea).

“The Taepodong-2 crashed due to some trouble after travelling for seven minutes including a 42-second normal flight,” he testified at a National Assembly committee. Yonhap news agency quoted an unidentified military intelligence official as saying the long-range missile went down after flying for 490 kilometers.
42 seconds flying up and 6 minutes, 18 seconds tumbling down.
The early landing of the Taepodong-2 -- capable of flying over 6,700 kilometers (4,150 miles) to bring Alaska and Hawaii into range -- sparked questions over whether the flight was a technical failure or was aborted.
Early landing? The AFP boys are better than I thought.
North Korea has hailed the launch of seven missiles Wednesday as ”successful,” rebuffing allegations that the long-range missile launch was a failure.
"It tumbled so beautifully just as our Dear Leader predicted!"
US officials had scoffed sneered laughed at mocked the test, with White House national security adviser Stephen Hadley saying “a missile that fails after 40 seconds is not a threat to the territory of the United States.”
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [238 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm sure some of the pieces could have traveled quite far ballistically. Seven minutes sounds in the ballpark to me. But the word 'flown' in the title implies 'controlled', which is complete and utter nonsense.
Posted by: PBMcL || 07/07/2006 0:53 Comments || Top||

#2  I am concerned because a missile with fixed launcher could be put on a commercial ship, and floated close to the US shore. I would the question of overt military actions, to our SK and Japanese allies because of their proximity to the beast. And I would openly promote evolution over pre-emption. However, I wouldn't return to the sham Clinton' aid-for-peace game. That didn't work any better than Bill's resistance to cheating.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/07/2006 5:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Definition of Fly:Flew:Have-Flown as used here:

The pieces of the clay flew for 2 minutes, all but 3 seconds of it after being shattered by the shotgun.

Posted by: Oldspook || 07/07/2006 16:59 Comments || Top||

#4  'Flown' as in 'like a brick'.
Posted by: DMFD || 07/07/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||


N Korea vows more missile tests
North Korea has threatened to use force against any country that tries to stop it testing more missiles.
"One step closer and the world gets it! Whaddya think about them apples?"
China, under pressure from Washington over North Korea's missile tests, said its chief negotiator would visit Pyongyang next week.
Have him bring a strong sedative with him.
Pyongyang's statement came as the United States and Japan united against a UN Security Council split over whether to impose sanctions on North Korea for the missiles it fired on Wednesday.
"The UN: Putting the 'U' in 'Useless'."
North Korea's official KCNA news agency quoted a foreign ministry spokesman as saying: "The KPA will go on with missile launch exercises as part of its efforts to bolster deterrent for self-defence in the future. The DPRK will have no option but to take stronger physical actions of other forms, should any other country dare take issue with the exercises and put pressure upon it."
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#1  As long as the Commies continue to delude themselves believing that deficit-intensive, Totalitarian Stalinist-style Commie bureacracy-micro/nano-management will result in parity and superiority against the USA-West by 2030 and 2050, there's gonna be hell to pay once they realize they'll either never achieve it, or will have to wait until circa Year 2080 = next century to do so. Its why the Commie Clintons, OWG, and Years 2015-2020 for suborning or destroying hyperpower America is important to them + rest of now RINO-CINO Failed Left. WHERE NORTH KOREA IS CONCERNED, THE IRONY IS THAT THE WOT MAY BE ITS LAST OR ONLY CHANCE TO BREAK FREE OF SHADOW/SUBTLE CHICOM CONTROL BEFORE ANY FUTURE, SURREAL SHOOTING WAR AGAINST AMERICA STARTS. Just as MadMoud's futurist Iranian Shia Empire points to both the USA-West as well as Russia-China, so does [indigenous] NorKor missles. The Norks know they are just PC , anti-USA-West [including Japan] expendable cannnon fodder to the Chicoms, to defeat or destroy Americans in high-intensity destructive combat while also saving as much Chinese/Chicom lives as possible at the expense of Korean + other Asian.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/07/2006 3:37 Comments || Top||

#2  We have been warned...and Kimmy Has Left The Building!!
Posted by: smn || 07/07/2006 3:50 Comments || Top||

#3  "Put FIVE bullets in the revolver!"
Posted by: mojo || 07/07/2006 11:34 Comments || Top||

#4  China is apparently negotiating a Missile for Trains Program.
Posted by: john || 07/07/2006 20:00 Comments || Top||


Europe
Italian agents helped CIA “kidnap” Egyptian imam
ROME - Italy’s secret service cooperated with US agents in kidnapping an Egyptian cleric, Italian press reports said Friday, despite the government of former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi denying knowledge of the abduction.

The claims followed the arrest on Wednesday of two top Italian intelligence officials in connection with a judicial inquiry into the February 2003 seizure of the radical Muslim cleric Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, on the streets of Milan. “First confessions: SISMI was an accomplice,” the serious business daily Il Sole-24 Ore said, referring to the Italian secret military intelligence service’s alleged involvement.

The daily Corriere della Sera said “three agents (working for SISMI) acknowledged Italian complicity” in the operation blamed on the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Corriere della Sera said the three SISMI officials questioned by investigating magistrates had said the Italian intelligence service hosted several meetings at its headquarters to plan the abduction.

Marco Mancini, the second most senior director of SISMI, was arrested on Wednesday along with another top official of the agency, Gustavo Pignero, over their possible role in the abduction. The two are suspected of “complicity” in the illegal detention of the cleric, the former imam of a mosque in Milan.
So they were the ones who approved it. Bet they're feeling like they were left out to dry.
At the time of his seizure, Omar was under investigation in Italy as part of police anti-terrorist operations. Corriere della Sera quoted testimony given to the investigators by witnesses who said that Mancini and Pignero had told their subordinates at the meetings that SISMI had to “help” the CIA ”abduct the imam”.
"Why not just whack him, Marco?"
"Nah, let the Egyptians do that. You got the papers ready?"
The two said SISMI should send agents to Milan to examine the sitation on the ground and to follow Omar, the newspaper quoted witnesses as saying.

Omar, who was living in asylum in Italy when he was snatched, was allegedly taken to a nearby US air base for interrogation and later transferred via Germany to Egypt, where he is still in prison. He claims to have been tortured in Egypt.
And he'll keep claiming it given the storm he's raised so far.
The Milan prosecutor has issued arrest warrants for 25 CIA agents and another US citizen in the case.

The claims threaten to stain the reputation of Berlusconi, who always insisted that the alleged abduction was carried out without his government’s knowledge. They also put in a delicate spot the new centre-left government of Romano Prodi, which must now decide how to act after criticising Berlusconi’s inaction on the matter when the left was in opposition. “The government is in deep trouble. The Americans are furious. The heads of the intelligence services are at stake,” Corriere della Sera quoted the prime minister’s secretary of state Paolo Naccarato as saying.
Since this all proves that we can't trust the Italian government, but then we already knew that about Prodi.
For the warrants to be officially served to Washington to extradite the suspects, they have to be signed by Italy’s justice minister.
"What's this, the artificial insemination agreement for Madonia?"
"No, Minister, it's the warrants for the CIA agents."
"Oh, finally, something easy!"
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Judge orders Berlusconi stand trial in fraud case
An Italian judge on Friday ordered former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to stand trial over alleged fraud at broadcaster Mediaset, the latest in a string of court cases involving Italy's richest man.

The case, which Berlusconi has dismissed as politically motivated, follows a four-year investigation into claims of embezzlement, false accounting, tax fraud and money laundering in television rights deals between 1994 and 1999. Berlusconi could face four to 12 years in jail if convicted of money laundering and up to six years for tax fraud. But Berlusconi has managed to avoid jail in at least seven previous graft trials. He was found guilty four times, but verdicts were overturned on appeal or the statute of limitations applied and charges were dropped.

The decision to call the trial follows Berlusconi's razor-thin defeat in April general elections, which saw Italy's longest-serving post-war prime minister ousted from power in what he angrily claimed was a fraudulent result. "It was a predictable decision, considering the previous hearings in Milan," said Berlusconi's lawyer Niccolo Ghedini after the ruling. "They haven't allowed crucial witnesses for the defense to be heard."
My take on this is that Italy's Left is trying to punnish Berlusconi for being... well, Berlusconi! They have to ruin him before their new government collapses. What do you think?
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#1  But Berlusconi has managed to avoid jail in at least seven previous graft trials.

Sure looks that way, Secret Master. Reminds me of David Bonior leveling all those bogus, trumped-up charges against Newt Gingrich back in the 1990's.
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2006 16:34 Comments || Top||

#2  When we lived in Brussels, one of our friends was an accountant responsible for his company's Italian business. I remember him commenting ruefully that if the accountants aren't in real danger of being jailed at least once during their careers over there, they aren't doing it right -- apparently it's nearly impossible to not break the laws, that's how it was set up.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/07/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||


Muslims fitting into Europe Well
The survey by the Pew Global Attitudes Project was conducted in 13 countries, including the United States, from March 31-May 14, 2006.1 It includes special oversamples of Muslim minorities living in Great Britain, France, Germany, and Spain.

The poll finds that Muslims themselves are generally positive about conditions in their host nation. In fact, they are more positive than the general publics in all four European countries about the way things are going in their countries. However, many Muslims, especially in Britain, worry about the future of Muslims in their country.

The greatest concern among Muslim minorities in all four countries is unemployment. Islamic extremism emerges as the number-two worry generally, a concern shared by Western publics as well as Muslims in Egypt, Jordan, and Pakistan.
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Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 12:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [251 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Muslins fitting into Europe well. REALLY?
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/07/2006 16:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Most Westerners (as well as Indians) strongly disagree. Among those in the French general public who see Islamic identity on the rise, 87% call it a bad thing; in Germany, 83% say so; in Spain (82%); in India, 78%.

Sure. Sounds like it's going just great...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 17:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Ya know that smell when you are near a 10 foot pile of steaming fresh horse shit?
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/07/2006 17:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Euro-Muslims should be happy with how they are being treated: they are getting their butts kissed. When the numbers of Muzz reaches a certain point they start asking for Shariah; then their own subsidized schools; then free trips to the Hajj nonsense; then a veto on foreign policy; then their own state; etc.


The Muslim mentality: they want to come here and live as they want, and they want us out of their so-called "homelands."
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/07/2006 22:06 Comments || Top||


Great White North
N. Korean missile tests could threaten Canada: Harper
Canadians should be concerned about North Korea's missile testing, Prime Minister Stephen Harper warned Thursday after meeting with U.S. President George W. Bush. "Missiles that are fired in the direction of the United States constitute a threat to Canada," Harper said.
Thank you for noticing.
Bush also warned Canadians of dangers during a joint news conference after he and Harper met at the White House in Washington, D.C. The president noted that a North Korean missile fired toward the United States could travel off course and accidentally strike Canada. "[North Korea] could be seemingly firing a missile at the United States — this is all speculation — that could be headed toward the northwest of our country and it wouldn't take much for it to get off course," Bush said.
As Dubya just speculates to make his point.
Harper said his Tory government wasn't prepared at this time to open the debate on whether Canada should reverse an earlier Liberal decision and join the U.S. ballistic missile defence program. But after the meeting, the prime minister stressed that he understood the need to have a "modern and flexible defence system" to combat missile threats.
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#1  N. Korean missile tests threaten everybody. Question, where are all of the Gipper's "Star Wars" foes these days?
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2006 14:39 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Uncle honours 'hero of Islam'
The uncle of a Pakistani-born British soldier killed by Taliban militants in Afghanistan, on Thursday called his nephew a "hero of Islam". Jabron Hashmi, 24, became the first British Muslim soldier to die in neighbouring Afghanistan since the US-led invasion after the 9/11 attacks. He was killed in an insurgent attack this week on his patrol in Helmand province.

Dozens of Pakistani tribesmen attended a service for Hashmi on Thursday in his birthplace of the northwestern city of Peshawar, near the Afghan border, where support for Taliban militants also runs high. "My nephew is a hero of Islam, Pakistan, Britain and the international community who sacrificed his life for a noble cause," said Hashmi's uncle, Mohammed Javed, who held the service in his home.

Javed said he wanted his nephew buried in Pakistan, but added that his immediate family had not decided on Hashmi's funeral arrangements.
Here's hoping that both Hashmi and Javed are represent the beginnings of a counter-trend in Islam.
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#1  Finally, a Muslim family that makes sense.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 07/07/2006 15:58 Comments || Top||


Qazi Faces Arrest: More Incitement Charges Against Fat JI Leader
LAHORE (Online): Lahore police have registered second case against MMA President Qazi Hussain Ahmad, Hafiz Salman Butt and other leaders under 16 MPO for delivering provocative speeches against the government. The case has been registered by New Anarkali police on the report of sub inspective Nazir Hussain. As per the case the police while taking action against the MMA leaders for delivering provocative speeches against the government in the area of Anarkali and creating law and order situation have taken into custody 9 accused.

It may be recalled that MMA had started public mobilization campaign from Tuesday. The alliance had held only one corner meeting. In this connection first case was registered by Akbari Mandi police and second case has been registered by New Anarkali police.
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India to buy 3 Russian warships at $1.14 bln
NEW DELHI - India, one of the world’s biggest arms importers, will buy three frigates for its navy from Russia for $1.14 billion, the Indian defence minister said on Thursday. Pranab Mukherjee said New Delhi would also buy 28 land attack Klub cruise missiles for its Russian-made submarines for $192 million. He told reporters after a meeting of the cabinet committee on security the first frigate would be delivered five years after the formal signing of an agreement.

India has one of the world’s biggest navies with at least 25 warships and 16 submarines. Russia remains its biggest arms supplier, although New Delhi has diversified purchases in recent years, buying equipment from Israel, France and its new ally, the United States.

In the federal budget for the year ending March, 2007, India increased spending for its 1.3-million-strong military 7 percent to 890 billion rupees ($19.3 billion).
Do the rough math, subtract out the equipment and supplies, and the average Indian soldier can't be making more than about $3000 a year or so.
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#1  STRATEGYPAGE.com reports that China has halted contruction of its Type 051C and other classes of Russian-derived/aided surface warships due to numrous probs. Time will tell iff the Indian Navy suffers a KURSK or other naval catastrophe.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/07/2006 4:06 Comments || Top||

#2  the average Indian soldier can't be making more than about $3000 a year or so

I would figure considerably less, still there's no shortage of volunteers. It's an all-professional force.

John?
Posted by: 6 || 07/07/2006 7:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Those prices seem high, even with support equipment. For instance US LCS (3000 tons) are budgetted at $250M each and the latest Tomahawks were contracted at $600K each.
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2006 8:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe the price is high because support is bundled into the purchase?
Posted by: WhiteCollarRedneck || 07/07/2006 12:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe the price is high because support is bundled into the purchase?

They sell Russian warships at Best Buy?
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2006 12:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Overstock.com
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 12:51 Comments || Top||

#7  25 warships and 16 submarines.

Sound like they need a lot of CONTRACTORS!
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2006 14:47 Comments || Top||

#8  The Indian Navy has more than 80 ships in service - about 45 larger surface combatants - Frigates and above.

Base salary (before allowances) for the lowest ranking soldier is about 100 US dollars a month.

An Lt base salary is about 250 US dollars a month
Posted by: john || 07/07/2006 20:22 Comments || Top||


Akbar Bugti rejects govt claims of militant casualies
Tribal chief Nawab Akbar Bugti rejected the government's claims of having killed 31 militants in a recent operation in Dera Bugti, saying that his private militia had instead inflicted severe damage on security forces. Talking to the BBC by telephone, Bugti said that his militia had killed 30-35 army commandos, shot down two helicopters and damaged three others in the last three days. He said that three fighter planes had bombed his hideout. "Then, troops were dropped by around 19 helicopter gunships around my residence. They kept firing at us till evening," the BBC quoted him as saying.

Bugti rejected the government's claims of that it had killed 31 militants, saying none of his men had been killed or injured. He said that the security forces had imposed a curfew in Sui for the last three days and no one had been allowed to leave the city.
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Qazi to leave for London on 10th
Qazi Hussain Ahmad, ameer of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), will leave for London on July 10 to meet PML-N patron Mian Nawaz Sharif and PPP Chairperson Benazir Bhutto, sources told Daily Times on Thursday. Sources said that Qazi Hussain was going to London to attend the UK Islamic Mission Conference, which will commence from July 8. They said that JI Secretary General Syed Munawar Hassan was likely to leave for London on July 7 to address the opening session of the conference while Qazi Hussain will address the concluding session.

Sources said that Qazi Hussain would meet Sharif during his five-day visit, but he may not meet Ms Bhutto because of shortage of time. They added that MMA Secretary General Hafiz Hussain Ahmad would meet Sharif and Ms Bhutto in the first week of August. Sources said that Qazi Hussain would try to convince Sharif and Ms Bhutto to cooperate with the MMA in its anti-government movement.
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#1  Benazir Bhutto is brain dead if she sees anything positive in allying with Fatso, to push out Mushy. On another matter, Qazi should be on the UK's keep-out list. If al-Qaeda is on the front-line, Qazi's JI are rear-base troops.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/07/2006 0:16 Comments || Top||


It’s too late to talk to Bugti
It is too late for the government to offer Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti another invitation for negotiation because he has defiantly spurned all offers for peaceful talks, said Governor Owais Ahmed Ghani. In an exclusive interview to Daily Times at the Governor’s Secretariat on Thursday, Ghani said that Balochistan did not belong to a handful of sardars and nawabs. “The government believes in taking the middle-class, educated majority of the province into confidence regarding all development plans,” he said, adding that there are no contacts between the government and Akbar Bugti. He said if Bugti is sincere with Balochistan and his people he should give up weapons and surrender. “Akbar Bugti would be given amnesty because of his old age,” said Ghani.
That didn't stop him from running a campaign of murders, intimidation, and extortion, did it?
The governor said that most tribesmen had realised that their chiefs were fighting for their own interests. This realisation, he added, had prompted a large number of tribesmen to surrender to the government. Ghani said the government had evidence that some foreign countries were assisting the Baloch sardars in creating unrest in the province. Ghani refused to comment on suspected Indian involvement in the Balochistan crisis. He said the Gwadar Port will be inaugurated soon after the construction work is finished.
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#1  "We're gonna squash him like a Bug(ti)."
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2006 12:48 Comments || Top||


Death Toll in Bhiwandi Violence Rises to 4
The death toll in Wednesday’s violence in Bhiwandi, in the western Indian town of Thane, rose to four yesterday, with the death of two policemen who were lynched by rioters and two Muslim youth who were shot dead by police. The two policemen, R.Y. Jagtap of Bhoiwada police station, and B. R. Gangurde of Narpoli police station, were allegedly lynched on Wednesday night by an angry mob while on patrol duty. The two youth who were earlier shot dead in police firing were identified as Ramzan Khan and Abdul Malik.

A violent mob of Muslims did what violent mobs of Muslims do best went berserk and threw stones at police on Wednesday afternoon engaging police in pitched battles at several places in the town. The police first baton-charged and then fired tear gas shells. When this proved ineffective the police fired into the air and then indiscriminately at the mob.

The trouble erupted following the beginning of the construction of a police station on a disputed land adjacent to the Quarter Gate Mosque, which Muslims claimed as being Waqf property and a burial ground for the community. The mob then pulled down the construction that had taken place. The police on the other hand claimed the land to be government property since 1920.

In order to bring the situation under control the police imposed a curfew on Wednesday night in the Islampura area, after more than 3,000 members of the minority community went on a rampage and set fire to seven government buses and several two-wheeler vehicles. The situation in the Muslim dominated textile town remains tense but under control. Police have continued the curfew. The police fear an outbreak of violence and arson during the funeral of the two Muslim youth and policemen.
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Village Still Grieves for 'Innocent' London Bomber
Grieve and be damned.
Posted by: Fred || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [331 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah, yes, the obligatory "he was a good boy" and the usual "he was a victim, not a perp" crap we have all become familiar with ever since September 11th.

Are they idiots or deliberate liars? It's getting difficult to tell for sure.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 07/07/2006 2:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Should've sent him home in pieces. Every couple of weeks. Here's a hand. Here's a couple of fingers. Here's a butt cheek...like a book club.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 22:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Sheesh. Sounds like they got more idiot than they got village. I'm surprised they don't collapse into a black hole from their own denseness.
Posted by: SteveS || 07/07/2006 23:05 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Like Predecessor, UN's New Rights Body Targets Israel
Following a trend adopted by its discredited predecessor, the U.N.'s new Human Rights Council ended its first-ever "special session" Thursday with a resolution condemning Israel over the crisis in the Gaza Strip.

By a vote of 29-11 with five abstentions, the 47-member body passed a resolution demanding that Israel end its military operations in Gaza, expressing concern about the impact the operation was having on Palestinians' humanitarian situation, urging Israel to release detained Palestinian lawmakers and mandating an urgent visit to the area by a U.N. special rapporteur.

The resolution, introduced by the Arab and Islamic blocs, made no specific reference to the factors that triggered Israel's Operation Spring Rain -- Hamas' kidnapping of an Israeli soldier and the firing by Gaza-based terrorists of rockets into Israeli population centers.

The HRC resolution was opposed by Canada, Japan and nine countries in Europe after they failed in attempts to insert balancing language into the text. Japan called the resolution "one-sided and not constructive," while Canada said it was unacceptable that the measure ignored Israel's "legitimate security concerns." "It must also acknowledge that the Palestinian Authority has a responsibility to prevent the constant firing of rockets into Israel, to resolve the present hostage-taking crisis and to prevent the recurrence of further such criminal acts," the Canadian envoy said.

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Iraq
Militant Islam grips Baghdad's sectarian ghettos
Posted by: ryuge || 07/07/2006 07:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [226 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doesn't this sound about like typical US 'gang' behavior? Beat or kill people for being on your turf without wearing the right color do-rag on your head? Burn 'stores' where your competition is trying to sell their drugs? Is that what Islam, or at least Islamism, is - a gang with religious cult rationalization?
Posted by: glenmore || 07/07/2006 7:33 Comments || Top||

#2  That's pretty much what Baron Bodissey over at Gates of Vienna seems to have concluded:
The theology and ideology of Islam are eminently compatible with criminal behavior, and an operational jihad organization is functionally indistinguishable from a criminal enterprise. The Koran explicitly sanctions any method whatsoever to spread the faith, and forbids nothing when subjugating the infidel. Thus lying, stealing, rape, murder, torture, and genocide are not only acceptable, they are laudable and even mandatory when undertaken on behalf of the Ummah.
Islam has been recruiting in America's prisons for decades; it's a great place to find willing sociopaths.

Posted by: Dave D. || 07/07/2006 8:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Of course. Mohammed was an Ali Baba who made it big.
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2006 8:53 Comments || Top||

#4  We need to treat islamonuts exactly the way we treat criminals - lock up the little fish, and hang the big fish, until the fishing hole is dry. It'll take a couple of decades, but the results will work. The Iraqis have proven that some (a small percentage) can actually learn to live in a civilized, democratic society. The rest need to be eliminated. Bullets are much cheaper than prisons.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/07/2006 15:21 Comments || Top||


Iraq Parliament: Speaker Praises Iran Mullah Islamofascism
In a meeting with Larijani, Iraqi Parliament Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani said that Iraq is looking to Iran because of the two countries' geographical, economic and political commonalities.

He "praised Iran's efforts to revive Islam as well as approve and implement laws and regulations based on Islam in the past 25 years. The Iraqi speaker expressed his view that consolidation of parliamentary relations between the two countries can provide a solid basis for expansion of mutual ties in all fields". Al-Mashhadani said, "an Islamic and free Iraq is treading the path mandated by Islam."

Al-Mashhadani all but stated that he wants Iraq to become an Islamic republic just like Iran.

Larijani responded in kind, saying al-Mashhadani's visit "shows the close cooperation between the two countries despite alleged differences between Shiites and Sunnis".

"The visit by al-Mashhadani indicates that the two countries have a strategic and friendly cooperation based on their love for Islam," Larijani said.
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Ex-Iraqi deputy PM Tareq Aziz starts hunger strike
Former Iraqi deputy prime minister Tareq Aziz has begun a hunger strike to protest the refusal by prison authorities holding him in Iraq to allow him to see a lawyer, his attorney said Thursday. But a spokesman for US detainee operations in Baghdad denied it. "I can confirm that he has been receiving his meals and that he met with his lawyer yesterday," Lieutenant Colonel Keir-Kevin Curry told AFP.

More from the Khaleej Times

Aziz, held by US troops since his surrender in April 2003, needs to sign a legal document authorizing his lawyer to present a case to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR).

“Given the refusal of the US and British authorities at the camp where Tareq Aziz is held to allow his lawyer to see him and to sign a legal document giving his attorney the authority to pursue his request before the ECHR, he and his colleagues at the detention camp decided on Wednesday to begin a hunger strike,” attorney Izzat Rabih Aref said in a statement.

Aziz’s Italian lawyer, Giovanni Di Stefano, said his client’s hunger strike signalled “a sad day for international jurisprudence”. “The US and the UK know a form of authority is required and they wish to stop any form of internationally-recognized legal court hearing the case of Mr Aziz,” Di Stefano said in a statement.

He charged that if Aziz is denied the right to see his lawyer and to sign the required authorization document, “there is no chance of ever holding a fair trial”.

The European court has agreed to consider a request by Aziz concerning his detention but is awaiting official responses to three questions, one of Aziz’s lawyers said Tuesday. The court wants to know to which forces he surrendered on April 24, 2003, which forces have been holding him since then, and where and on what date they intend to hand him over to Iraqi authorities.

Aziz’s Italian lawyers said late last month they had presented a case to the ECHR after concluding that his security could be endangered if he were turned over to Iraqi authorities by US-led coalition forces.
Since the Iraqis damn well expect to execute him, whereas the ECHR will put Carla del Ponte in charge, allowing Tariq to die of a coronary some years after being esconced in a luxury villa.
Posted by: Fred || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [244 views] Top|| File under:

#1  According to my pal Kevin, sounds like this wasn't even a one-meal "hunger strike" like No. 1 recently performed. DiStefano's been desperately trying to grab headlines off of these cases for a year now. As for the ECHR's questions, they might try reading the papers or making a phone call. He surrendered to Coalition forces (those would be the UN-authorized coalition forces) and is held in Coalition physical custody at the request of the Iraqi government, which maintains full judicial control over him. Geez.
Posted by: Verlaine in Iraq || 07/07/2006 2:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Didn't he plead a case a while ago to be let loose on bail or something because he was really sick or dying? I guess he got better.
Posted by: glenmore || 07/07/2006 7:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Is this part of the Cindy Sheehan rolling hunger strike?
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2006 7:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Old EUrope needs to learn they are totally out of the picture in Iraq, due to their total unwillingness to help out. They have no jurisdiction. They have no legal grounds to do anything. They are a non-player. They need to get their head out of their a$$ and learn that the world doesn't rotate around Belgium and the Hague. Maybe a nice bitch-slap across the face will get the message across. The US is pulling two divisions out of Germany. There are about 20 other small posts that can be closed. Outside of England and whatever bases the US decides to open in Eastern Europe, leave Ramstein, Aviano, and Naples. Move the rest of the non-UK US European Command elsewhere. THEN pull the plug on NATO, followed by a new treaty with those countries that wish to form a coalition with the US for MUTUAL defense. Europe needs to grow up.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/07/2006 15:27 Comments || Top||

#5  Google "hunger strike". It doesn't look like too many people aren't on one. I had to skip lunch but I'll have dinner so I think mine would be considered "open ended"...just like the Hollywood stars!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 15:35 Comments || Top||

#6  It is odd that the Hollywood left, Cindy Sheehan, Tareq Aziz, Sean Penn, etc. ad nauseum have mistaken the rest of us for someone that gives a shit about their hunger strike.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/07/2006 17:04 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
UN speaks out on Israeli action
A UN body has condemned Israeli action in Gaza and called for the release of Palestinians captured during the offensive.
Hmmm... What'd they say about the daily rocket attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and murders?
The recently created Human Rights Council voted on Thursday to condemn the offensive launched last week, which Israel said was to recover a soldier captured by Palestinian militants on 25 June.
The Paleos could call the Israeli bluff by giving the guy back, couldn't they?
The 47-member council adopted a resolution demanding a halt to Israel's military operation and decided to "dispatch an urgent fact-finding mission by the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory". The special session on Wednesday and Thursday was called by the Arab Group in the UN and supported by about a dozen other member states, including China, India, Russia and South Africa.
Posted by: Fred || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [236 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "dispatch an urgent fact-finding mission by the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory".

What arrogance. Does this UN body really think that someone other than moonbats would believe them. Save time, save money, stay home and write the "report" you're going to write anyway. What a bunch of lying chickenshits.
Posted by: Xenophon || 07/07/2006 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  I wonder where Israel would be today if they did everything that the UN wanted them to do. Any guesses? Mine is "forgotten history".
Posted by: grb || 07/07/2006 0:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Another day, another condemnation of Israel by the UN.
Posted by: 2b || 07/07/2006 1:56 Comments || Top||

#4  It's about time for their weekly Five Minutes Hate. What took them so long?
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 07/07/2006 2:07 Comments || Top||

#5  The Mondial, Blondie.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/07/2006 4:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Pbbbt!!
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 07/07/2006 13:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Wasn't this "Human Rights Council" supposed to be one of the "reforms" at that shithole?
Well I can hardly wait to see the rest of them...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 13:55 Comments || Top||

#8  I love the new(?) meter!
Posted by: Xbalanke || 07/07/2006 14:06 Comments || Top||

#9  Like we needed another reminder of why the UN is a complete joke and should be dissolved....
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/07/2006 17:33 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
First Pictures of the F-35 JSF
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [238 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pretty bird...
Posted by: badanov || 07/07/2006 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  I want one.
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2006 7:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Needs some Flying Tiger Teeth....

Anyone good enough with Photo Shop?
Posted by: TomAnon || 07/07/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#4  ...My understanding is that the first line unit to get the -35 will be the 20th FW across the road from me at Shaw AFB SC. Got an up-close and personal with a full-scale mockup and some LockMart guys some time back, IF this beast works as advertised it's going to be a winner.

It may also be the last manned combat aircraft built for the USAF, but you didn't hear that from me.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/07/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Did we jump from the F22 to the F35 ?
What happened to good ole numbers like F24 and F25 ? Are they so secret that we can't use those numbers ? Huh ?
What didn't you like about the F33 ?
Posted by: wxjames || 07/07/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#6  And to think that there are people alive now who were born before man's first powered flight.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 10:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Did we jump from the F22 to the F35 ?

A number gets assigned early in design phase. Lot's never get beyond concept, some make it to mockup, even fewer make it to the flying stage.

For example, the YF-23 lost to the F-22 in the final testing. Pity, it was a beautiful bird.
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2006 12:48 Comments || Top||

#8  wxjames -
Long time USAF urban legend has it that some of the 'missing numbers' in both the old Century Series and the new ones were assigned to Soviet/Chinese aircraft that were flown at Nellis AFB without the knowledge or approval of their original builders. A more solid piece of info is that more than a few 'paper airplanes' - company proposals that never get off a drawing board - have also been assigned F- or B- numbers, though this is not done anywhere near as much as it used to be. On the other hand, don't forget that the JSF project goes back to the mid-80s, so who knows what kind of numerical gyrations the nomenclature may have gone through.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/07/2006 12:50 Comments || Top||

#9  Steve -
That it was, sir. Northrop had it all set to be named F-23A Blackwidow II after their famed WWII nightfighter. If you take a look at some of the in-flight publicity shots, a red 'hourglass' marking is clearly visible on the -23's belly. Officially, Northrop swore it was a 'test marking'. Of course the same killjoys who rejected 'Lightning II' for the F-22 would have probably put paid to that. (I've got a Lockmart coffee mug with 'F-22 Lightning II' on it..drives people crazy. :)

Mike

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/07/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||

#10  Pretty is right. I like the pictures of some of the plant personnel escorting it - they all look like proud parents.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 07/07/2006 13:00 Comments || Top||

#11  A pity it has the crescent of Islam on it.
Posted by: Kratos || 07/07/2006 13:25 Comments || Top||

#12  Looking on that site, I found more pretty birds!
4 Female F15 Pilots...that's hot!

Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 07/07/2006 13:34 Comments || Top||

#13  From that site 7/7/06
USAF names Lockheed Martin's F-35 JSF the Lightning II

You voted for Black Mamba, but the US Air Force decided differently and so Lockheed Martin's F-35 Joint Strike Fighter has now been christened.

No poisonous snakes, man-eating birds or scythe wielders; the F-35 has been given a name at once appropriate and predictable - Lightning II. Formally named at the roll-out of the first F-35 today in Fort Worth, Texas, the multinational JSF has been named after two legendary fighters, one American and one British.
Posted by: Sherry || 07/07/2006 13:58 Comments || Top||

#14  "(WHY) jump from the F22 to the F35"

The history of the "F-35" began as an X-plane prototype; the X-35. That, and F-35 sounded much more advanced than a F-24, and thus more likely to get funded. Yes, it's a travesty to the traditional numbering system. But it's mild compared to the total cluster%^&* that today passes for warship numbering. It's all just gone to He11, numbering wise. Nice plane though.
Posted by: Shuling Angurong7260 || 07/07/2006 17:00 Comments || Top||

#15  BTW, you can see the prototype up close at the new National Air & Space Museum at Dulles. Very nice. Absolutly HUGE place, too. B-707, SR-71, Concord, the Shuttle Enterprise and much more all get swallowed up in a truly cavernous hanger display.
Posted by: Shuling Angurong7260 || 07/07/2006 17:05 Comments || Top||

#16  Cute, but the AF isn't excited about the JSF. F-22 is the shit.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/07/2006 17:31 Comments || Top||


Sri Lanka
Tiger supremo pays homage to suicide bombers
Sri Lanka's elusive Tamil Tiger supremo has paid tribute to 273 suicide bombers known as Black Tigers who have carried out devastating attacks in the past 19 years, the guerrillas said on Thursday. Six photographs were released of Velupillai Prabhakaran, 51, meeting with his current band of suicide bombers and lighting an eternal flame to mark the first Black Tiger attack against the military on July 5, 1987. The photographs were released by the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), which put the number of Black Tigers to have carried out attacks at 273. The figure is up from 261 released by the pro-rebel media in the run up to the suicide bombing anniversary on Wednesday.
Posted by: Fred || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [240 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Rice says Iran's "stall" tactics not going to work
Forgive me for noting this, Dr. Rice, but the evidence is to the contrary.
London, Jul. 06 - United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Wednesday that Tehran would not succeed in stalling over its response to a package of incentives offered to it by the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council and Germany in return for it to suspend uranium enrichment.

"If indeed Iran is trying to stall, it's not going to work. The international community has said that we need to get an answer, an indication of where Iran is going with this", Rice told reporters at a joint press conference with Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul in Washington, DC. "We need to know if the path of negotiation is open or not. It is really incumbent on Iran now to take what is a very good [offer] and respond to it".

"And so I will, in fact, be talking to my colleagues a little bit later today, but I can assure you that we still intend to have a substantive response from Iran before the middle of July when the heads of state will meet in St. Petersburg. It simply makes sense for the world to have some kind of indication of whether Iran intends to pursue the negotiated track or not", she said.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [244 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Or else what? We'll stop them like we did NorK?
Posted by: grb || 07/07/2006 2:41 Comments || Top||

#2  You said it grb; I won't 'raise my neck hairs' until I hear of four Carrier Groups speeding to the area, and Israel passing out gas masks to the public and curfewing it's citizens (in lieu of preemption)!
Posted by: smn || 07/07/2006 3:47 Comments || Top||

#3  It's going to be a quarantine. The Admirals have to be bitching and moaning about how the Army is getting all the press and appropriations. "W put me in the game. The Navy will win it for you."

Let the UN screw sanctions up and lose credibility. Then send in the Navy, cut off gasoline imports and let the Iraninas do it to themselves. The question in my mind is before or after the November election. Same for the Norks.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 9:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Why not? They have, so far.
Posted by: SR-71 || 07/07/2006 9:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Rice's "punt" tactics haven't done much so far, either.
Posted by: JSU || 07/07/2006 15:44 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Rev. Al Sharpton Joins Cindy Sheehan's Hunger Strike
The official sign that this thing is total bullshit.
Al's the only guy I know that has lose weight before he goes on a hunger strike.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 14:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [341 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And the downside to all this is exactly what????
Please insert apathy meter here, if you care.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 07/07/2006 14:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Downside: They could wed, and reproduce.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2006 14:32 Comments || Top||

#3  He's almost big enough to burn diesel.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/07/2006 15:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Ewwwwww! Gross!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/07/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, Rev Al did go on a hunger strike a few years ago. Something about not wanting the Navy to use Vieques Island in Puerto Rico for gunnery practice. He actually lost weight. Not sure why a "minister" from New York would be interested in a chunk of rock off Puerto Rico, other than he got his name in the paper again.
Posted by: Rambler || 07/07/2006 16:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Big enough to burn diesel? Think biofuels, AP -- a little liposuction and he can FUEL a diesel!
Posted by: Darrell || 07/07/2006 16:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Fiel a Diesel?

Like I said.... Ewwwwww... Gross!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/07/2006 17:10 Comments || Top||

#8  If only dems believed and meant what they say. In 2 or 3 weeks, the shriveled corpses of Cin and Al could be buried and forgotten....
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/07/2006 17:26 Comments || Top||

#9  It's a rolling hunger strike. Kind of like on a cruise. If you miss midnight buffet, you can always eat first breakfast.
Posted by: DMFD || 07/07/2006 18:53 Comments || Top||

#10  Yep, he's going on a 72 hour soda diet. Sharpton, Bobby Sands laughs at you.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 07/07/2006 23:44 Comments || Top||


White supremacists enlisting in military
A decade after the Pentagon declared a zero-tolerance policy for racist hate groups, recruiting shortfalls caused by the war in Iraq have allowed "large numbers of neo-Nazis and skinhead extremists" to infiltrate the military, according to a watchdog organization.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks racist and right-wing militia groups, estimated that the numbers could run into the thousands, citing interviews with Defense Department investigators and reports and postings on racist Web sites and magazines. "We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad," the group quoted a Defense Department investigator from a report to be posted today on its Web site, www.splcenter.org. "That's a problem."

A Defense Department spokeswoman said officials there could not comment on the report because they had not yet seen it.

The center called on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to appoint a task force to study the problem, declare a new zero-tolerance policy and strictly enforce it.

The report said that neo-Nazi groups like the National Alliance, whose founder, William Pierce, wrote "The Turner Diaries," the novel that was the inspiration and blueprint for Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, had sought to enroll followers in the Army to get training for a race war. The groups are being abetted, the report says, by pressure on recruiters, particularly for the Army, to meet quotas that are more difficult to reach because of the growing unpopularity of the war in Iraq.

The report quotes Scott Barfield, a Defense Department investigator, saying, "Recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-Nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces, and commanders don't remove them from the military even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members."

Barfield said Army recruiters struggled last year to meet goals. "They don't want to make a big deal again about neo-Nazis in the military," he said, "because then parents who are already worried about their kids signing up and dying in Iraq are going to be even more reluctant about their kids enlisting if they feel they'll be exposed to gangs and white supremacists."

The 1996 crackdown on extremists came after revelations that McVeigh had espoused far-right ideas when he was in the Army and recruited two fellow soldiers to aid his bomb plot. Those revelations were followed by a furor that developed when three white paratroopers were convicted of the random slaying of a black couple in order to win tattoos, and 19 others were discharged for participating in neo-Nazi activities.

The defense secretary at the time, William Perry, said the rules were meant to leave no room for racist and extremist activities within the military. But the report said Barfield, who is based at Fort Lewis, Wash., had said he had provided evidence on 320 extremists there in the past year, but that only two had been discharged. He also said there was an online network of neo-Nazis.

"They're communicating with each other about weapons, about recruiting, about keeping their identities secret, about organizing within the military," he said. "Several of these individuals have since been deployed to combat missions in Iraq."
Posted by: Penguin || 07/07/2006 10:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [318 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Biased much?

/of course I don't think aryan nations ought to be grouping up in the military. But c'mon Frisco Chron! Get over your bad selves already.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/07/2006 10:32 Comments || Top||

#2  How an SF Gate tell the difference? They think everyone from a Red State is a neo-nazi cracker.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2006 10:55 Comments || Top||

#3  The Southern Poverty Law Center's a little behind the curve on this. Unless, of course, this graffitti is okay...

May 1, 2006 Chicago Sun-Times

The Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings and Vice Lords were born decades ago in Chicago's most violent neighborhoods. Now, their gang graffiti is showing up 6,400 miles away in one of the world's most dangerous neighborhoods -- Iraq.

Armored vehicles, concrete barricades and bathroom walls all have served as canvasses for their spray-painted gang art. At Camp Cedar II, about 185 miles southeast of Baghdad, a guard shack was recently defaced with "GDN" for Gangster Disciple Nation, along with the gang's six-pointed star and the word "Chitown," a soldier who photographed it said.

The graffiti, captured on film by an Army Reservist and provided to the Chicago Sun-Times, highlights increasing gang activity in the Army in the United States and overseas, some experts say.


Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2006 10:58 Comments || Top||

#4  They've also found black and latino gang graffiti in Iraq - is the SPLC concerned about that too?
Posted by: Spot || 07/07/2006 11:04 Comments || Top||

#5  yah, well I dont suppose latino gangster graffiti is quite as much of a hearts and minds issue for the locals as white supremacist graffiti would be.

although this
"a guard shack was recently defaced with "GDN" for Gangster Disciple Nation, along with the gang's six-pointed star and the word "Chitown," a soldier who photographed it said."

might well explain some confusion among the locals.

Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/07/2006 11:49 Comments || Top||

#6  the BS meter moving to the high side....

again, I guess the SF Chronicle is OK with Baathists who really are old school Nazis

anything to cast doubt on the GWoT...
Posted by: TomAnon || 07/07/2006 11:56 Comments || Top||

#7  How about this thought..

the other side could be engaging in "PsyOps" as well seeing as how they think our military are just a bunch of gangstas thanks to the MSM.
Posted by: TomAnon || 07/07/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Huge load of bovine fecal matter. We do not allow folks w/racist or gang tatoos into the service (of any racial background). If someone had a prior association w/gangs that is something we cannot control unless there was ample proof of lawbreaking w/such or a criminal record. For the record, the SPLC can kiss my white Irish ass for instigating this tripe.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 07/07/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#9  There are, of course, no Nation of Islam members in the armed forces.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 07/07/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||

#10  Huge load of bovine fecal matter.


Whahahaha.... possibly a boat load.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2006 14:43 Comments || Top||

#11  The Chron trying to muscle in on the NYT's bid for the 2006 Julius Streicher Award?
Posted by: Jeating Glavinter6466 || 07/07/2006 15:17 Comments || Top||

#12  National Alliance rubes signing on to fight in the ZOG war for Israel? Not bloody likely.
Posted by: Jolung Ebbolutle3297 || 07/07/2006 16:34 Comments || Top||

#13  Those of us who have lived in San Francisco know that the Chronicle is institutionally incapable of simply reporting the news. They often - and without any explanation - put editorials on the front page as news items, print extremely biased and misleading headlines, fail to retract false data when they are called on it, and generally tow whatever line the Nancy Pelosi wing of the Democratic Party is currently pushing. Your patented Rantburg Surprise Meter (tm) should be on zero over this article.
Posted by: Secret Master || 07/07/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#14  Lots of cow puckie.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/07/2006 17:41 Comments || Top||

#15  In contemporary Clinton-speak, Nazis = Fascists > mere DE-REGULATED/LIMITED REGULATORY COMMIES + STALINISTS + LEFTISTS, etal, i.e. A GOOD NAZI-FASCIST WHOM ISN'T SAME, sub i.e. who is also for Marx, Lenin, and Mao depending on the nano-politics of the moment, on whose shoulders de facto blame and liability appears to fall on. more popularly known as Universal Policratism-Politicism + Waffle-ism.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/07/2006 22:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
Energy Independence: A Dry Hole?
Energy experts across the political spectrum are criticizing politicians' calls for "energy independence," saying the goal falls somewhere between pipe dream and economic impossibility.

"Energy independence is an emotionally compelling concept," says Jason Grumet, executive director of the National Commission on Energy Policy, a bipartisan, nonprofit group financed by private foundations, "but it's a vestige of a world that no longer exists."

Indeed, the U.S. is moving rapidly away from energy independence: Oil imports made up 35% of the nation's petroleum supplies in 1973 and 59% in the first four months of 2006, according to the Department of Energy. Moreover, 66% of the oil consumed in the U.S. is used in the transportation sector, where Americans, with their penchant for hefty cars with big engines, are by far the planet's biggest consumers of oil.

The allure of energy independence is easy to see. It reinforces the belief that Americans can control their own economic destiny and appeals to a "deep-seated cultural feeling that we are Fortress America and we will not be vulnerable to unstable regimes," says David Jhirad, a former Clinton administration energy official who is vice president at World Resources Institute, an environmental-research group.

In fact, experts say, America's energy fortunes are inextricably linked to those of other countries. Global oil markets are interconnected, with oil prices set internationally. That means supply disruptions anywhere in the world will continue to have an almost instantaneous effect on the pump price of gasoline in the U.S.

"The real metric on this is not imported oil, but how much oil we use, period," says Jerry Taylor, senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute who dismisses calls for energy independence as "rhetorical nonsense that transcends party affiliation."

Others say that achieving "energy independence" -- even if it were possible -- would be far more expensive than has been estimated and wouldn't eliminate threats to the nation's economic security. Finding replacements for U.S. oil imports may be impossible considering the country's vast distances and relatively poor public transportation systems, compared with Europe's. Even if the U.S. managed to end its reliance on oil from the Middle East, security problems posed by nations there will remain, says David Sandalow, who heads environment and energy projects at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank. "We haven't imported a drop of oil from Iran in over 20 years, but that doesn't prevent Iran from being able to play the oil card," he says, referring to Iran's ability to disrupt supplies and drive up world prices for oil.

C. Fred Bergsten, an economist and director of the Institute for International Economics, says energy independence is "ridiculous," in part because it implies that "price doesn't matter, that you'll pay any amount to decrease your reliance on imports -- and that would be crazy." He says the U.S. should work toward healthy "interdependence" by curbing its energy demands while forging alliances with more oil-consuming nations.
[Energy Dependence]

For example, he says, the U.S. and China should be looking for ways to work together. "We're natural allies; we're both among the world's least efficient users of energy, and we're both big consumers," he says. "We should be on the same side of the table" when dealing with the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

Judith Kipper, a Middle East specialist for the Council on Foreign Relations, says it was counterproductive when lawmakers and others bashed big oil companies and Arab oil producers during the recent jump in prices. "These people are selling us something we want and need," she says. "We refuse to come to terms with our own lack of policy."

Some lawmakers defend a long-term goal of "energy independence." Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, the senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, says such goals may be "grandiose," but it is important to have goals for long-range planning.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 07:37 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [241 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yet another attempt to discuss energy usage and prices without mentioning that most of the offshore continental shelf is _by policy_ off-limits to oil or natural gas exploration.

Every additional one of these gives me the creeps.
Posted by: Phil || 07/07/2006 9:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Nucs and electricity fixed facilities => fuel cells & hyrdogen mobile power source.

Thats the only way we can get there.

I've said it time and again.

2/3 of the oil used us in the transport sector. Close to 2/3 of the oil we need is imported.

And we can increase our production by at least 10% by allowing drilling in wider parts of the US.

Do the math.

Posted by: Oldspook || 07/07/2006 9:06 Comments || Top||

#3  The deception in this article is the strawman of oil independence used to refute the claims of energy indendence. With nuke power we could certainly become energy independent for our power grid and the ground transportation. I should think the remaining oil the US pumps could manage to keep the planes in the air. And as was stated in another post environmental restrictions could be removed if our own oil was insufficient.

We're not talking tomorrow, we're talking the "Goal" of energy independence and it is very reachable if we have the will to reach.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 07/07/2006 9:57 Comments || Top||

#4  RJ, then you agree with Biden.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2006 10:43 Comments || Top||

#5  This entire "article" (propaganda piece) is a piece of fecal matter. We need nuclear power sources throughout the nation. We need to convert our rail system to electric propulsion (half that transportation usage - or more - is to transport goods). We need to stop the environmental nutjobs from determining US energy policy. We need to drill on the continental shelf, in Alaska (why do we need a HUGE Alaska petroleum reserve, when we're rapidly building an all-nuke fleet?), and elsewhere. We can have "energy independence" of a sort in about 20 years, if we start now and work hard toward it. We will never have it if we wring our hands and say "it's too hard". We need to kneecap a few hundred people - just below the neck.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/07/2006 15:01 Comments || Top||

#6  At least two unutilized sources of power: hydrated methane in vast quantities on the ocean floor and tidal power (virtually unlimited). Why isn't anyone interested?
Posted by: Gleper Phavirt9443 || 07/07/2006 16:23 Comments || Top||

#7  I can't understand the reasoning of the thesis that the U.S. cannot achieve energy independence.
A South American country have done it using ethanol. It's impossible to believe that this country with it's technological capabilities cannot do the same. The article is an utter noncense. Nuclear, ethanol and plug-in hybrids.
Posted by: wonderer || 07/07/2006 16:33 Comments || Top||

#8  "Always listen to an expert"
Lazarus Long
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/07/2006 17:06 Comments || Top||

#9  Big sugar will save us!

You know.... there's this sub-tropical paradise located an average of 150 miles from Miami. It's ideal for growing sugarcane and is populated by a literate and hard-working {if forceably ignorant} people.
Posted by: 6 || 07/07/2006 17:18 Comments || Top||



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  IAF Buzzes Assad's House
Wed 2006-06-28
  Call for UN intervention as Paleoministers seized
Tue 2006-06-27
  Israeli tanks enter Gaza; Hamas signs "deal"
Mon 2006-06-26
  Ventura CA port closed due to terror threat
Sun 2006-06-25
  Somalia: Wanted terrorist named head of "parliament"
Sat 2006-06-24
  Somalia: ICU and TFG sign peace deal
Fri 2006-06-23
  Shootout in Saudi kills six militants

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