LAKELAND, Fla. -- Officers fired 110 rounds of ammunition at the man suspected of killing a sheriff's deputy, killing the suspect, according to an autopsy released by the sheriff's office. Angilo Freeland -- who was suspected of fatally shooting the deputy after being pulled over for speeding Thursday -- was hit 68 times by the SWAT team members' shots, the examination released Saturday showed.
"I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was that's all the ammunition they had"
Sheriff Grady Judd
He also was suspected of wounding a deputy and killing a police dog.
Freeland's death ended a nearly 24-hour manhunt that forced schools to lock down and families to stay indoors as about 500 officers scoured the woods. The wounded deputy had pulled Freeland over for speeding and became suspicious of his identification. The suspect got nervous and bolted into the woods, officials said.
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said he was not concerned by the number of shots fired. "You have to understand, he had already shot and killed a deputy, he had already shot and killed a K-9 and he shot and injured another deputy," Judd said by phone Saturday. "Quite frankly, we weren't taking any chances."
Ten SWAT officers surrounded Freeland on Friday as he hid beneath brush and a fallen tree in a rural area. Authorities say he raised the gun belonging to the deputy he had killed, prompting nine officers to fire.
"I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was that's all the ammunition they had," Judd said. "We were not going to take any chance of him shooting back."
Also released Saturday were autopsy results for the deputy, Vernon Matthew Williams, 39, which showed he had been shot eight times. He was not wearing a protective vest, but shots hit him in his right leg and behind his right ear, among other places. Diogi, his German shepherd police dog, was also killed. The dog had been shot once in the chest.
Authorities said deputy sheriff Doug Speirs, also 39, was fired at several times and shot once in the leg. A sergeant and an officer from the Lakeland Police Department were also fired at, authorities said.
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Police nullification of jury nullification.
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9 officers, most of which had automatic weapons if I remember this right, fire 110 rounds. That's just 12 rounds each. And considering they hit him 68 times is pretty good shooting for cops.
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"Suspected cop-killer"
Now that he has been so thoroughly ventilated, I sincerely hope he was the actual cop-killer.
Note also the link to an earlier story:
"Florida Authorities Kill Armed Gunman Who Shot Cop to Death"
I guess it wouldn't do to shoot an unarmed gunman.
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Considering they were probably packing rifles by that time, they didn't even empty the mags on them. Probably had to take extreme care to not have friendly fire problems.
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Just to remind you people this story is from 2006. Locally there are still a lot of "We Remember Matt and Diogi" bumper stickers around since Matt was a local boy. IIRC the perp was a Miami drug dealer whose death was met with much grief by drug enforcement officers. They really hoped they could've had a talk with him facing a death penatly.
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This actually happened Sept. 29, 2006. Background...
Freeland's family called on Florida Governor Jeb Bush to appoint an independent, unbiased investigator, because they claimed that the Polk County Sheriff's Office, which reviewed the shooting by an internal investigation, was biased due to the death of Deputy Williams. They argued, based on the number of shots fired and Deputy Judd's remarks, that the police used to much force and that they should have made more of an effort to take Angilo alive. Joyce Freeland, Angilo's mother stated that "All we want is for all questions surrounding why this happened to be answered." In response, Assistant State Attorney Chip Thullbery stated that "I think their concerns are misplaced. I believe that there will be a thorough investigation of all the incidents and that our office will do a thorough, independent and impartial review of that investigation."
His family claimed Angilo was not involved in any illicit activity. However, his home was the subject of an ongoing drugs and weapons investigation at the time of the shooting. When authorities searched his house, they recovered several firearms including an AK-47 assault rifle, an SKS assault rifle and a .380-caliber handgun. Police also uncovered a journal in when Freeland wrote about going out "in a moment of Bezerk madness, forcing the enemy to play the end game before it is time."
In December 2006, the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ)asked the FBI to review the shooting of Freeland after the department received a letter from the Florida Civil Rights Association, which called Freeland's shooting "profoundly disturbing." The FBI subsequently announced they would investigate whether authorities used excessive force in the incident. In June 2008, the U.S. Department of Justice (DoJ) announced it had cleared the Polk County Sheriff's Office of any wrongdoing in the incident, stating: "After careful consideration, we concluded that the evidence does not establish a prosecutable violation of the federal civil rights statutes. Accordingly, we have closed our investigation."
In a report dated June 14, 2007, Gabrielle Finley of Ledger.com published that "The Polk County Sheriffs Office said today that area law enforcement agencies have arrested 19 people in Orange and Hernando counties who were connected with Angilo Freeland in a street-level drug trafficking operation. Freeland is the man deputies say shot and killed Deputy Matt Williams and his K-9 Diogi last September following a traffic stop. In a press conference today, Polk Sheriff Grady Judd said Freeland served as an assassin in the drug operation. Officials suspect him of killing up to 15 people in Latin America for not paying their drug debts. They are unsure if he killed anyone in Florida, but are still investigating that angle. Freeland was pure evil in the flesh, Judd said." The investigations had been facilitated directly via a cellphone found on Freeland's body.
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he bwas the right one they found him hiding in the wood he fled intowhich was very thick and was also hiding in the brush. who gives a damn how manytimes they shot him he's dead and good riddance
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Pity stayed his hand. "It's a pity I've run out of bullets," Dildo thought. Bored of the Rings, Lampoon Press, 1969
Also reminds me of the story about NYPD murder of an unarmed immigrant who was reaching for ID as requested by police. 7 out of 43. Good shootin', Tex.
Passengers are angry about being forced to fly on a new Southwest Airlines plane featuring a bikini-clad model, saying it is "soft porn" and is offensive to families.
Israeli supermodel Bar Refaeli, currently dating actor Leonardo DiCaprio, is pictured lying seductively in a revealing white bikini along the length of the Boeing 737 as part of a promotional deal with Sports Illustrated.
The latest addition to the US-based airline was unveiled this month and is deployed like other aircraft in the fleet, servicing all its routes. Photos here.
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If I were a passenger, I'd be angry too! I'd want her painted on the inside of the fuselage, so I can enjoy the scenery for the entire flight.
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If people are upset by a painting, but the advertising company wants the campaign to continue, why not look for a better way, and take the high ground? I say, glue that gal to the nose of the plane! Problem solved.
Sure they do. They go down to the redneck riviera in their bass boat and look at their ugly wives' beer guts hanging out over tops of their spandex shorts and leer at their daughters' skimpily clad teeny bopper school friends. Then they vote for huckabee, and all the rest of us lose...
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M. Murcek, I take it you've never been to the Redneck Riveria.
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Wonder how many 'insulted' passengers decline their Southwest seat and took another airline to their destination? /rhetorical question
There's a reason you fly Southwest. They don't compete with the other airlines, they compete with the bus company.
A university in Liverpool has launched a Master of Arts degree in The Beatles, the city's most famous sons, and called the qualification the first of its kind. I've felt this inner emptiness all these many years. This wasn't what was missing.
Liverpool Hope University says on its website that the course entitled "The Beatles, Popular Music and Society" consists of four 12-week taught modules and a dissertation. Think of the many hundreds of pages you could write discusing the existential meaning of
Then when I awoke
I was alone
This bird had flown.
Why, you could crank out a 900-pager just on Yoko. And she couldn't even sing. The best she could do was to shake a tambourine.
"There have been over 8,000 books about The Beatles but there has never been serious academic study and that is what we are going to address," said Mike Brocken, senior lecturer in popular music at Hope. One wonders why.
"Forty years on from their break-up, now is the right time and Liverpool is the right place to study The Beatles. "Everybody's unemployed, there is no work, so we might as well piss our time away studying the inconsequential."
"This MA is expected to attract a great deal of attention, not just locally but nationally and we have already had enquiries from abroad, particularly the United States." ... where the inconsequential presented in a Brit accent is particularly prized...
The university said it was the first postgraduate taught course on The Beatles in the United Kingdom, and possibly the world. And by Gum, I have an idea why.
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"Would you like to super size your order of fish and chips?"
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Dammit Ed, you beat me to it.
What a worthless "Degree".
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They're all paper mills now. No integrity to the original concept of 'institutions of higher learning', just 'how much can be separate the gullible from their income' to keep the academic gentry in the life style they believe they're entitled to.
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A scam worthy of a mafioso, I bet some con-man some where is pissed they didn't think of this first. Watch berkley follow suit w/a degree in the Grateful Dead...
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Now now folks, cab trips to the airport would be so much more entertaining if the cabbie had this degree ...
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Some of the classes I took in college...
The Gangster in American Cinema
The Black Sox Scandal
The Lizzie Borden Murder and American Society
American Counterculture
Good flicks in the first one. The second and third were actually productive since they made you learn how to research, and this was a long time before the internet. The fourth one, great for acquiring good weed and hippie chicks...
And this was thirty years ago.
Sounds like Russian scholars are right up there with Islamic scholars...
MOSCOW -- If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.
Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership.
"There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010," Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy -- a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend. Enthusiastically accepted, I'll bet... Dr. Prognosticator didn't mention that Russia would go down three months before we do ...
The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia's Federal Space Agency and reportedly an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the U.S. that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin. Putin, the former president who is now prime minister, has likened the United States to Nazi Germany's Third Reich and blames Washington for the global financial crisis that has pounded the Russian economy.
Panarin didn't give many specifics on what underlies his analysis, mostly citing newspapers, magazines and other open sources. He also noted he had been predicting the demise of the world's wealthiest country for more than a decade now. Wow. Credible or what? Don't kill the job, Igor.
But he said the recent economic turmoil in the U.S. and other "social and cultural phenomena" led him to nail down a specific timeframe for "The End" -- when the United States will break up into six autonomous regions and Alaska will revert to Russian control. ...and if it doesn't, he'll just revise the timetable. Like those "End of the World" guys.
Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men. America collapses: Prison Inmates, Gays Hardest Hit...
Turning to economic woes, he cited the slide in major stock indexes, the decline in U.S. gross domestic product and Washington's bailout of banking giant Citigroup as evidence that American dominance of global markets has collapsed. "I was there recently and things are far from good," he said. "What's happened is the collapse of the American dream." How's the "Russian dream" working out these days?
Panarin insisted he didn't wish for a U.S. collapse, but he predicted Russia and China would emerge from the economic turmoil stronger and said the two nations should work together, even to create a new currency to replace the U.S. dollar.
Asked for comment on how the Foreign Ministry views Panarin's theories, a spokesman said all questions had to be submitted in writing and no answers were likely before Wednesday. Look's like some closet Commies are still around in the Foreign Ministry.
It wasn't clear how persuasive the 20-minute lecture was. One instructor asked Panarin whether his predictions more accurately describe Russia, which is undergoing its worst economic crisis in a decade as well as a demographic collapse that has led some scholars to predict the country's demise. Panarin dismissed that idea: "The collapse of Russia will not occur." Kinda like when the Soviets were gonna bury us...
But Alexei Malashenko, a scholar-in-residence at the Carnegie Moscow Center who did not attend the lecture, sided with the skeptical instructor, saying Russia is the country that is on the verge of disintegration. "I can't imagine at all how the United States could ever fall apart," Malashenko told the AP.
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One instructor asked Panarin whether his predictions more accurately describe Russia, which is undergoing its worst economic crisis in a decade as well as a demographic collapse that has led some scholars to predict the country's demise.
Which is why I find it so funny that the now-mainstream of the french wingnuts grasp so desperately at the idea of the russians and the slavs being the new Hope and Change for Europe and the whites, against the Empire and assorted catchphrases that wouldn't stand out in a leftist speech (like the one I can't stand, the "hyperclass" to describe the shadpwy globalist fatcats)...
I agree the West is in a pretty bad shape (a pretty decent part of it due to the efforts of... the russians, or at least, their soviet predecessors), but I don't see exactly how you can look at putin's russia and see it as a model and a beacon, on every level, unless you only see the one you imagine.
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And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership.
And, according to more lucid french wingnuts pundits (who frequently happen to be long time free-market advocates and/or anti-communists, as opposed to the crypto socialist and anti-capitalist overall feel of what's left of the french "right"), this goes along with an effort at rehabilitating stalin, whitewashing his crimes (remember the russian historian who not so long ago claimed that millions of americans had died of hunger during the Great Depression, and that those deaths were unacknowledged by the official history? Dude, that cancel the Holodmor!), blaming russia's woes on being perpetually under siege by hostile foreign forces (stalin was only defending the Motherland, really), and a nasty "messianical" worldview with orthodxy again used as a State vehicle, pure russia against the corrupted West, IE, the third Jerusalem.
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There might be some truth to this, given the way the Congress and President are spending so far. I'm beginning to wish that we had all voted for Kerry in 2004. A bad as it would have been, it might have avoided this.
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he predicted Russia and China would emerge from the economic turmoil stronger and said the two nations should work together, even to create a new currency to replace the U.S. dollar.
Did he mean to say that, unlike the U.S. dollar, neither the ruble nor the yuan (if I recall the names of foreign currencies correctly) are strong enough to stand alone?
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Politically the US is unlikely to divide. That's wishful thinking from an expert in an ethnically divided nation who doesn't understand America. We might hit a depression but we're not gonna divide.
On 25 February Andrei Illarionov testified before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. The hearing was titled From Competition to Collaboration: Strengthening the U.S.-Russia Relationship. Illarionov is a Russian citizen presently employed by the Cato Institute. He began his testimony with a brief explanation: For a number of years I worked at different posts in the Russian government and Administration of the Russian President. According to Illarionov the Russian regime is a KGB regime, and the United States policy toward this regime is worse than appeasement. It is best characterized as retreat.
That doesn't even work as science-fiction. The only way the Russians are taking Alaska back is if they muster up the forces to invade and kick the hypothetical rump-forces out. They don't have the sealift capacity to mount a sustained amphibious operation against an armed shore, and you can be damned sure that one of his hypothetical rump-states would fight for Alaskan oil and gas.
In short, this is crap speculative history, the sort of wish-fulfillment rubbish which would have been tossed right back over the transom by any self-respecting SF editor.
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"In short, this is crap speculative history, the sort of wish-fulfillment rubbish which would have been tossed right back over the transom by any self-respecting SF editor."
But it makes the America-hating Leftists feel so good, Mitch.
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"He also noted he had been predicting the demise of the world's wealthiest country for more than a decade now."
Yeah, I remember when he was saying this stuff last year....
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more lucid french wingnuts pundits (who frequently happen to be long time free-market advocates and/or anti-communists, as opposed to the crypto socialist and anti-capitalist
Jeeebus K... do you like use a Yarn and Squares Database? Sound's awfully complex.
Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika will face five challengers when he runs for re-election on April 9th, local press reported on Monday. Ooooh! I'm so excited! I wonder who will win?
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A Zimbabwean judge on Tuesday ordered the release of a senior lawmaker, who was part of the opposition until a new unity government was formed last month, after nearly three weeks in prison on weapons charges. High Court Judge Tedias Karwi ruled there was "no merit" in the state's application for Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) lawmaker Roy Bennett to be denied bail.
The detention of Bennett, who was nominated as deputy agriculture minister, has strained relations in the new unity government. He was arrested hours before the new Cabinet was sworn in.
It was not immediately clear whether Bennett would be released immediately or whether the state would appeal to the Supreme Court. Defence lawyer Beatrice Mtetwa told reporters the state wanted bail raised to $5 000 and wanted him to report to police each day, but the judge refused.
Former opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai was sworn in on Tuesday in Parliament and will deliver his first speech as prime minister on Wednesday.
Attorney General Johannes Tomana was also sworn in. He was unilaterally reappointed by President Robert Mugabe last week to the anger of the MDC, which said it breached the power-sharing agreement.
Tomana's office is believed responsible for the continued detention of Bennett, as well as human rights activists. The MDC said it feared the state would not comply with the release order because prosecutors were seen at Tomana's office, apparently seeking new orders. It said a total of 10 MDC and civil society activists who have been languishing in prison since last year were released, but three remained in custody after failing to meet stringent bail conditions.
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African and Portuguese-speaking envoys flew to Guinea-Bissau on Tuesday to try to head off a possible coup after the president and army chief were killed. Soldiers guarded strategic locations in the capital Bissau and local media said the National Assembly would meet on Tuesday. They murdered the head of state after the army chief was murdered, but that wasn't a coup. It was just murder.
The army has denied any wish to seize power, but it was unclear who controlled the poor former Portuguese colony of 1,6-million, where the involvement of drug traffickers has worsened years of instability. The borders remained closed.
President Joao Bernardo "Nino" Vieira and his long-standing rival General Batista Tagme Na Wai, the armed forces chief, were killed in separate attacks hours apart on Sunday and Monday. "The African Union [AU] appeals urgently to the political parties and actors of this country to exercise restraint and refrain from plunging the country once again into a spiral of power struggle," the continental body said in a statement. "The AU underscores the need to make every effort to avoid the use of violence and power-grabbing as a means of settling disputes," it said, adding it would send an envoy to Bissau "to assess the situation and prevent it from worsening".
The AU suspended neighbouring Guinea after a coup in December following the death of its president.
Senior envoys from Portuguese-speaking countries, including Portuguese State Secretary for Foreign Relations and Cooperation Joao Gomes Cravinho, arrived in Bissau on Tuesday. "We maintain constant telephone contact, but actually being there sends a different kind of a signal and gives another opportunity to talk. At this moment there is no indication of a need for any international or military force for Guinea-Bissau," Cravinho said on Portugal's SIC television before he set off.
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Author Frederick Forsyth has told the BBC of his surprise to find himself in Guinea-Bissau on the day the president and army chief were assassinated.
The British writer flew in to research a new book as the country was plunged into a drama that could have leapt from the pages of one of his thrillers. The Day of the Jackal author told of the "bizarre" events as renegade troops "rather slowly" killed the president.
He said the drama was "garnish on the cake" that might be in his new novel. The writer was at pains to point out: "I can assure you I had nothing to do with the coup d'etat." Forsyth has previously admitted helping to finance a 1973 coup attempt in another West African state, Equatorial Guinea.
Those events were the inspiration for his 1974 book The Dogs of War, which chronicles a failed plan by a group of European mercenaries to topple the government of a fictional African country.
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Forsyth has previously admitted helping to finance a 1973 coup attempt in another West African state, Equatorial Guinea.
Just a coincindence, or two, or three...nothing to see here.
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Is Guinea-Bissau one of those African countries that Mexican and South American drug smugglers use as a way station on their way to Europe? I read a story a while back about how they were using Ivory Coast that way and the money was corrupting the hell out of the local officials because the smugglers can carry more money in one suitcase than the entire annual GDP of some of these little African countries.
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina yesterday said conspiracy and evil designs are still being hatched after the bloody BDR mutiny in a bid to foil the country's democracy, independence and sovereignty.
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President Hugo Chavez is tightening state control over Venezuela's food supply, setting quotas for food staples which are to be sold at government-imposed prices. this will turn out well. Les Miserables in spanish. I love that play!
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First, you get control of the government. Then, you get control of the major source of revenue. Then, you take control of the food. Then, you quiet all dissent. Yep, Chavez is leading the way and Obama is following in the same path.
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Venezuela said it will seek to renegotiate contracts with oil-service companies and force food producers to make basic items covered by the government's price-control policies -- moves that point to increased economic strain.
More than 90% of Venezuela's hard currency comes from its oil production, which populist President Hugo Chávez has used to fund a splurge in consumer imports and underwrite social spending programs.
In the past few months, Mr. Chávez also spent freely on a political campaign to persuade Venezuelan voters to scrap term limits and allow him to run for president as many times as he likes. He won that referendum last month.
But as oil prices have plummeted, Mr. Chávez is increasingly hard-pressed to pay for his programs. Adding to woes is falling production at state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela SA.
Oil Minister and PDVSA President Rafael Ramirez said in a statement that the company planned to cut its spending on oil-service contractors by 40%. He didn't say how much money it intended to save. The company has built up huge debts with more than 6,000 contractors and suppliers, some of which have stopped work until they are paid.
On another front, the Venezuelan government, which has been bedeviled by more than 30% inflation, issued new regulations that force the country's food producers to make products governed by Venezuela's severe price-control regime.
For years, Mr. Chávez has been battling private food manufacturers and farmers, whom he blames for periodic shortages of foods ranging from chickens to coffee. Food producers blame the government's price-control regulations, which the producers say force them to sell items for less than they cost to make.
Now, producers of 12 key food staples, including rice, sugar, milk, pasta, coffee and cooking oil, will have to make sure that at least 70% of their production is composed of products whose prices are controlled by the government.
With the new regulation, the government is trying to counter what it says are efforts by food producers to avoid price controls by using basic food inputs, such as raw milk, to make low-fat milk rather than price-controlled whole milk.
Indeed, last weekend, Mr. Chávez announced the Venezuelan government would take over the country's rice mills, which he said were making flavored rice instead of price-controlled white rice.
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Hey Hugo, how about closing your borders so the peasants can starve w/o bothering the rest of us? Ask the Russians or Norks for technical advice.
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Hugo has a problem.
He destroyed his tax base and is running out of companies to seize. His test of columbia's borders didn't go well, so he won't be able to acquire by conquest.
Oil is his best card, so expect him to screw around with pricing and delivery.
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He destroyed his tax base and is running out of companies to seize. His test of columbia's borders didn't go well, so he won't be able to acquire by conquest. Oil is his best card, so expect him to screw around with pricing and delivery.
MS-13 (or Mara Salvatrucha) was formed by Salvadoran, mostly illegal immigrants in the 1980Žs, during El SalvadorŽs civil war. While the gang was originally made up exclusively of Salvadorans, they now accept all Central Americans as well as Mexicans. MS stands for Mara (slang for mob), Salva (El Salvador), Trucha (slang for on-guard).
MS-13 began in Los Angeles and as members moved deeper into the country, more loosely structured gangs or cliques were formed. However, these cliques continued to communicate with one another, and the network was formed. Difficult to believe it all began in Los Angeles.
Over the years, MS-13 has become more well structured, the FBI believes that the gangŽs L.A. members have a higher status amongst the group. The gang typically targets high school and even middle school students for recruitment.
Initiation into the gang usually consists of the recruit committing a brutal attack on either a rival gang member or even upon an unsuspecting civilian. On November 26, 2008, Jonathan Retana was convicted of the murder of Miguel Angel Deras, which was part of an MS-13 initiation.
MS-13 has aligned themselves with the Mexican Mafia, which has a large presence not only on U.S. streets, but is widely viewed as the most powerful prison gang. The smaller MS-13 pays the Mexican Mafia for protection, while their members are incarcerated.
According to the FBI, there are at least 70,000 MS-13 gang members operating between Central America and the United States. The FBI also reports that the gang currently operates in 42 states as well as the District of Columbia. The highest concentrations are in California, the District of Columbia, New York, and Virginia. MS-13 set up shop in Northern Virginia during the 1990s, lured by the region's fast-growing Salvadoran population, later expanding into the Maryland suburbs of Langley Park and Gaithersburg.
An example of how widespread the gangŽs tentacles have become was seen in March 2005, when a nation-wide sting operation targeting MS-13, nabbed 103 gang members. All 103 were in this country illegally. The arrests were made in Baltimore, New York, Newark, Dallas, Los Angeles, as well as the District of Columbia.
The FBI's National Gang Task Force Director Robert Clifford, said: "The migrant moves and the gang follows. If you follow the construction trade, that is where a lot of these immigrants go." Construction trade, like Fannie & Freddie backed track home developers previously operating here in the Atlanta area
MS-13 engages in a wide variety of criminal activities including drug distribution, murder, rape, prostitution, robbery, home invasions, human smuggling, kidnapping, and carjacking. The gang is infamous for machete and grenade attacks. They have also been known to behead their enemies. Most are undoubtedly registered Republicans.
In addition to their other criminal activities, MS-13 also apparently acts as paid assassins, with the target being U.S. law enforcement.
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The gang typically targets high school and even middle school students for recruitment.
However, educational professionals and governors are more concern with the 'evils' of sugar being within reach of the kiddies than expounding on real world threats like these thugs. Corporations [evil], Multiculturalism [good].
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I still think the Government, if it wants to spend a lot of money and get people working should create a work program to build a Great Wall along our southern border. Has to be easier than FDRs dams and if done right it can become a tourist attraction afterwards. A massive, stone, wall. Say its for the jobs, and to keep people from dying and becoming lost in the desert.
Then move a lot of our military bases to the desert land on the US side of the wall. Sell the bases near to big cities to the gready developers and build nice camps with adequate housing. If folks want to sneak over the wall they can also sneak past the base fences and sentries.
Yeah bases won't cover the whole way but they'll limit the section of wall that the border patrol has to watch.
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ION CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > GATES AND CIA WONDER: WILL MEXICO IMPLODE [ever-escalating violence].
Also on CMF > POSTERS = PINOYS [Philippines/Filipinos] INVADE OUR LANDS [disputed islands] TIME TO KICK THEM OUT, + PINOYS OCCUPY 10 OF OUR PRC CHINA ISLANDS.
* REDDIT > IRGC COMMANDER SAYS IRAN'S BALLISTIC MISSLES CAN HIT ISRAELI ATOM SITES.
A new trial of jailed Russian oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky began Tuesday with the former Yukos chief facing charges of crimes that could keep him jailed into old age. Khodorkovsky and fellow defendant Platon Lebedev shook hands as they took their places inside a bulletproof transparent booth in the heavily guarded courtroom.
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Coming soon to America. Probably someone like John Thain. Not Standford or Angelo because they track back to the Dems. Thain is the ML CEO who gave out the bonuses before BoA took them over. Obama is going to need a public lynching to really get his way with his budget and tax increases.
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See also REDDIT > seems RIVAL RUSSIAN POL or GOVT FACTIONS have begun serious infighting over "DWINDLING" STATE $$$ RESERVES, wid PUTIN = VALDVEDEV caught in the middle???
European banks face a US dollar funding gap of almost $2 trillion as a result of aggressive expansion around the world and may have difficulties rolling over debts, according to a report by the Bank for International Settlements. Bottom line, the USD is going to appreciate a lot more.
San Diego -- The F/A-18 crash that killed four family members in a San Diego neighborhood on Dec. 8 was caused by poor maintenance on the plane and a series of errors by the pilot and officers trying to guide him to an emergency landing, the results of a Marine investigation released today concluded.
Four officers at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station have been relieved of duty, a probable career-ending sanction. Nine other Marines and sailors have also been punished. The pilot, who was still in training, has been grounded. The assistant commandant for aviation will decide whether he is allowed to resume flying. "While we did not find any evidence of criminal wrongdoing, the responsible parties are being held accountable for their part in this tragic accident," Maj. Gen. Randolph Alles, an F/A-18 pilot and assistant commander of the Miramar-based 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, told reporters at an afternoon news conference.
Hours earlier, Marine brass briefed politicians in Washington and San Diego, as well as Dong Yun Yoon, whose wife, two young daughters and mother-in-law were killed when the plane smashed into their home. Owners of two adjacent homes were also briefed.
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"Land as soon as possible" does not mean at the closest maintenance facility. This sounded avoidable.
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Damn right, Pan. I once landed a UH-1H Huey in a supermarket parking lot near Mount Holly NC. The indication was transmission failure, accompanied by various alarming smells and grinding noises. The Charlotte airport was just a few minutes away but there was no reason to risk flight over populated areas with a marginal aircraft. The outcome was much, much happier, even farcical, on that occasion: A local who looked just like the late Junior Samples of Hee-Haw fame drove up in his pickup and asked what we were doing landing a "heel-copter" at the "gosh-ree sto'" I responded that we were having a picnic and had dropped by for some extra chips and beer. He let out a squawk and fled, at which point another crowd and a local policeman arrived to gawk and take charge of the scene, repectively.
I remember Mr. Dong Yun Yoon from the early coverage, the very picture of dignity in the face of unimaginable grief and loss. This accident was a cluster-f**k of monumental dimensions and I am glad to see heads bouncing right out of the service over it.
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sadly, the usual suspects and people who bought homes under an existing military base flight pattern have used this to try and limit or shut down Miramar - won't happen. And if it did, the same f*cking assholes and fools would get a relocated Lindbergh Field civ airport there. Careful what you agitate wish for
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ShipLord makes temse emergency landing, runs off locals, nothing to see here.
NEW DELHI: India test fired the land attack version of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile at the Pokharan range in Rajasthan Wednesday, six weeks after its failed test on Jan 20, an official here said. "The analysis of the parameters of the missile flight will take some time," a Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) official said while confirming the test firing of the missile.
The BrahMos missile, a joint venture of India and Russia, failed its test trial on Jan 20 by missing the target.
Since cruise missiles fly at low altitudes, they have the ability to evade enemy radars and air-defence systems. They are also easier and cheaper to operate as precision strike weapons.
The Indian Army has already begun inducting the land-fired version of the BrahMos, with the first battery entering service in June 2007. Each battery is equipped with four mobile launchers mounted on heavy 12x12 Tatra transporters. The army plans to induct three more such batteries.
The anti-ship naval version has also been inducted into service with its integration on the destroyer INS Rajput, with two other ships of the same class to be similarly equipped. The missiles will also be mounted on the three 7,000 tonne Kolkata class destroyers currently being constructed at Mumbai's Mazagon docks.
The missile, which takes its name from the Brahmaputra and Moskva rivers, has a nearly 300 km range and carries a 300 kg conventional warhead. It can achieve speeds of up to 2.8 Mach or nearly three times the speed of sound.
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"The Block II BrahMos missile was successfully launched at 1030 hours this morning,"
The missile "took two-and-a half-minutes to strike its target in the Pokhran firing range in Rajasthan,"
"The new seeker system is unique and it will help us to hit the targets, which may be insignificant in terms of size, in a cluster of large buildings.
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Informed sources described it as a difficult mission because the target was just 50 km away instead of the normal range of 290 km. Besides, the missile had to perform a discriminatory role: it had to hit the desired target out of a cluster of small targets, resembling a factory-type situation. The time given to the missile to perform manoeuvres and hit the target was much less than the normal flight. But these constraints were overcome with the Global Positioning System (GPS) update coming in correctly and the missile homed in on the desired target, sources said.
The missile flew at a velocity of Mach 2, twice the speed of sound. The normal version flies at Mach 3.
Last time the missile failed to hit the target as the GPS did not have time to correct the error in the inertial navigation system (INS). So the GPS update did not come in. This time, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) ensured that even if the GPS update did not flow in, the missile would hit the target. Modifications were made in the software and simulation runs conducted.
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Supersonic land attack cruise missiles were one of my favorite toys as a kid, which is probably why I got in trouble with the law so often.
VIENNA - U.N. nuclear watchdog governors on Tuesday approved a deal allowing extra inspections of Indias atomic industry, a condition of a U.S.-led deal allowing New Delhi to import nuclear technology after a 33-year freeze. Passage of an Additional Protocol somewhat expanding the International Atomic Energy Agencys monitoring rights in India came a month after New Delhi signed a basic nuclear safeguards accord opening its civilian nuclear plants to U.N. inspections.
The Additional Protocol would give IAEA inspectors more information on Indias nuclear-related exports, imports and source material, diplomats familiar with the issue said.
But some members of the 35-nation IAEA Board of Governors joined the consensus vote only with reluctance, they said. Sceptics felt that while heightened U.N. safeguards were a net gain for a country outside the Non-Proliferation Treaty, they could have been stronger had there been more time for negotiations, they added. Switzerland, South Africa, Ireland and Cuba protested that the agreement was handed to the board only two days ago, too late to thoroughly assess whether it will really contribute to disarmament, one diplomat in the closed-door meeting said.
It doesnt because there are no provisions to ensure India cannot divert into its military nuclear sector nuclear materials and know-how it obtains abroad for the civilian sector.
The protocol would give inspectors wider access to Indias programme but not as much as in states that have signed the NPT.
IAEA oversight was stipulated when the 45-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group agreed in September to lift a ban on nuclear trade with India, imposed after its first nuclear test in 1974 and for its refusal to join the NPT. India, Pakistan and Israel are the only countries never to have never signed the NPT.
Washington pushed through the NSG waiver because this was indispensable to implementing its own 2005 nuclear cooperation pact to supply India with nuclear technology. U.S. officials said the deal, a major plank in former U.S. President George W. Bushs foreign policy, would forge a strategic partnership with India, help it meet rising energy demand and open up a nuclear market worth billions of dollars.
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Sindh Chief Minister Syed Qaim Ali Shah has informed that the government has withdrawn most of cases against Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain. Addressing a news conference here on Tuesday, Shah said the government has taken this step as part of its policy of national reconciliation. Â"The cases have been withdrawn. It is now up to Altaf Hussain whether he returns to country or not,Â" he said.
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True that Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif have been disqualified by a controversial Supreme Court decision but there are possibilities that the script for their political elimination was written outside Pakistan. Never picked up on that, didja? They are a subtle lot, I'll give 'em that.
And one of the reasons could be their public perception as rightist politicians opposed to the American designs for South Asia. Or maybe it's because nobody can stand Uncle Fester...
Evidence is increasingly available in the Western writings that Washington and London "induced" former president Parvez Musharraf to facilitate the return of Benazir Bhutto in 2007 after spending over a year in secret diplomacy. Benazir was the voice, or at least the face, of sweet reason, especially when compared to the rest of Pakistain. People tried to overlook the fact that she was married to Mr. Ten Percent and surrounded by as rapacious a bunch of crooks as most people could imagine.
But more important part of the US-UK plan was to make sure Nawaz Sharif did not return to Pakistan lest he jeopardised the ascendancy of Bhutto to power. Most people noticed that when Benazir was invited back and not Uncle Fester.
Writing in the latest edition of Survival, the International Institute for Strategic Studies' bimonthly magazine, former British high commissioner to Pakistan Hilary Synnott revealed that the American and British governments were concerned to protect their interests in Afghanistan and in countering terrorism, especially after Musharraf sacked his chief justice in March 2007 and suspended some 60 judges. Oh, yeah. That was brilliant, wasn't it?
"The ensuing militant protests by the judiciary, being neither religious nor party political activists, introduced a new and unusual dimension to the political crisis. "When Musharraf rashly declared a state of emergency on 3 November, it became clear that his days are numbered." Perv yanked the lever on himself with that one...
The US and the UK, according to Synnott hoped they could still promote democracy while maintaining Musharraf in power and that was why both Musharraf and Bhutto were encouraged to come to an accommodation despite their deep mutual antipathy. Nawaz, meanwhile, was hustled back on the plane when he showed up uninvited...
"Musharraf was induced to arrange for the criminal charges against Bhutto and her husband to be dropped so as to allow her to lead her Pakistan People's Party (PPP) in the general elections due in late 2007. That doesn't mean they weren't guilty as sin, just that the charges were dropped. There's a diffo.
The plan was that, with the aid of the so-called "king's party" (Pakistan Muslim League-Q), which backed Musharraf, the PPP would assume the prime ministership while Musharraf remained as president, having first stood down as chief of army staff. We knew they weren't gonna let Perv retain both offices, even if the presidency was a ceremonial position. Zardari's occupying the same post, and it's not ceremonial.
"Sharif, however, would not be allowed to return to Pakistan from his forced exile in Saudi Arabia, which would severely disadvantage his Pakistan Muslim League-N, Pakistan's only other significant national political party, which might otherwise threaten Bhutto's ascendancy." I don't think Benazir was ever in real danger of losing to Nawaz, though I'm sure there were lotsa ballot boxes waiting to be stuffed. He was too recent a memory, smelled too strongly of Kargil, and just as corrupt as the Bhutto's. Benazir was a whiff of the romantic past, her father fondly if inaccurately recalled, and better looking than Uncle Fester.
In his essay "What is happening in Pakistan", the former British envoy analysed that Pakistan could experience more violence and disorder unless greater attention was paid to its challenges but "it is unlikely that the country is on the brink of state failure". I'da said it went over the brink about the time Benazir was murdered. And I'm not positive Gomez was uninvolved in that.
His reasons for optimism lie in relatively stable areas including the Punjab, which have weathered many storms in the past and are unlikely to disintegrate into chaos. Precisely where in Punjab is it relatively stable?
But diplomatic sources are concerned that the present Zardari-Sharif episode can turn ugly in coming days when the lawyers march towards Islamabad with overt support from Sharif loyalists. Gomez and Uncle Fester play the violin and the clarinet, respectively, whilst Peshawar burns.
But analysts like Hilary Synnott were ready for such eventualities even before the Pakistaní apex court saw the Sharifs as unfit to partake in electoral politics. Was he, by Gad? Good olde Hilary! Always on top of things Pakistained...
His pre-Supreme Court decision advice for Pakistanís international friends was to avoid prescribing solutions to the mess the country is getting into. "In the light of past experience, the friends of Pakistan would do well not to be too prescriptive in dealing with Pakistan's complex political scene. If Zardari's political star will fall, the current working assumption is that his leadership, in some form or other, would be replaced by that of Nawaz Sharif." Or that of Baitullah Mehsud. My personal opinion is that they're gonna squabble and bicker and "long march" and stage shutter-down strikes until both sides are too exhausted to lift their snouts out of the trough, at which point there'll be another coup and both will be packed off to London or Riyadh again.
The former diplomat reasons that Nawaz Sharif of 2009 could be different from the one Pakistan experienced in the 1990s. "In view of the failings of Sharif's previous leadership, there are grounds for concern. Responding to popular sentiment, he may be expected to be cautious about alignment with the United States and, as in the past, have closer relationship with religious groupings than does the centre-left PPP. Nor can there be any certainty that he has learned from the mistakes of the past. My guess is that he hasn't. And he's been on the other side ever since he got back.
"But that is equally true of Zardari, about whom there are grounds for concern. He's the slicker of the two, but I'm not sure he's the greedier.
"For all his past and possibly present shortcomings, Sharif is no revolutionary and may be expected to adopt a pragmatic approach. They said that about Khomeini, too. And Brezhnev. And Assad the Younger. They probably said it about Attila: "Aye! Yon princeling's no so mindlessly ferocious as the old man! He's much more pragmatic! You can deal with him if you approach him right, Aetius!"
"His stated priorities for the issues, which need attention and reform, exhibit a clearer focus than in the past and offer some hope that his leadership would extend beyond mere politicking and the maximisation of power."
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CHENNAI: A missile which will waylay and destroy an incoming ballistic enemy at an altitude of about 80 km will be launched off the coast of Orissa later this week.
This crucial test will seek to prove the efficacy of a host of new technologies, said officials in the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), which is conducting it. They described it as a major test to establish a ballistic missile defence [BMD] shield as part of the network-centric warfare. This is the third time an interceptor missile test is being conducted under the BMD shield that India seeks to establish.
The launch will feature two missiles. The enemy missile will be a modified version of Dhanush, a surface-to-surface missile. It will take off from a naval ship in the Bay of Bengal and simulate the terminal phase of the flight of a ballistic missile with a range of 1,500 km, similar to Pakistans Ghauri. As it zeroes in on the Wheeler Island, off Damra village on the Orissa coast, a Prithvi Air Defence (PAD) missile will lift off from the Wheeler Island, intercept the incoming enemy missile at an altitude of 70-80 km in the last one second and a half of its flight and pulverise it.
The interceptor PAD missile will use, for the first time, the gimballed directional warhead. It has so far been used only in the U.S. and Russia. When the directional warhead fragments in 360 degrees all round, the target missile coming in from only one direction is sure to be blown up. Ground tests have been done on the directional warhead. In flight, it will be done for the first time. This is a new thing, the DRDO officials said.
A directional warhead weighs less than 30 kg but its lethality is equivalent to a 150-kg warhead. The PAD would also feature trajectory optimisation to enable interception at not only a higher altitude of 80 or 85 km but also at 45 km. It could engage missiles with a range of 300 to 1,500 km.
The distinct advantage of intercepting a missile at a higher altitude of 80 km is that the debris will take longer to fall through the atmosphere before it hits the ground and hence will become cinders because of the re-entry of heat, the DRDO officials said. In a typical war scenario, this would reduce the effect of any fallout of nuclear debris and the risk associated with radiation.
The first interceptor missile test, which took place on November 27, 2006, waylaid an incoming ballistic missile in the exo-atmosphere at 48-km altitude. The second test took place on December 6, 2007 against a target missile at 15-km altitude in endo-atmosphere. The third test would be part of Indias plan to deploy a two-layered BMD system in the coming years.
In terms of strategic importance, the test would establish Indias capability to intercept Pakistans Hatf and Ghauri missiles.
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The Netherlands and France have sharply chastised the UN for singling out Israel in the preparatory text for its upcoming "Durban II" anti-racism conference, but said they are not yet ready to boycott the event. "I am deeply disturbed by the turn this event is taking," Dutch Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen said on Tuesday in a speech before the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva. "The way in which the preparatory process for this conference has been proceeding suggests that it is unlikely to be a useful exercise."
But they're still going, at least so far ...
The previous night, in an address to a large dinner hosted by the Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions (CRIF) in Paris, French Prime Minister Francois Filion warned that his country would withdraw if changes were not made to the draft text with regard to Israel.
On Friday, the US became the third country after Canada and Israel to announce it will not attend the April 20-24 event in Geneva, which is a follow-up conference to the 2001 UN World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance that met in Durban, South Africa.
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Aswat al-Iraq: A total of 54 lawmakers demanded to decrease the financial budget of 2009, a member of the financial committee of the Iraqi Parliament said on Tuesday.
"54 parliamentarians from several political blocs demanded to decrease the 2009 financial budget," Sami al-Atroushi told Aswat al-Iraq news agency, noting that committee presented a report including suggestions to decrease the spending amounts by 10 percent.
The chairman of the parliamentary Integrity Committee, Sabah al-Saaedi, had said earlier that a parliamentary vote on the 2009 federal budget has been put off until Thursday. "The vote has been postponed to give parliamentarians an opportunity to examine the possibility of reducing the budget," al-Saaedi, told Aswat al-Iraq news agency.
Iraq's 2009 federal budget, totaling $62 billion U.S. dollars, is based on an oil price of $50 a barrel.
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For a minute there, I was hoping this was the US Congress. Fifty-four wouldn't be enough to do much, but at least it would stir up some discussion, instead of the constant rubber-stamp. It's a shame when nations we brought freedom and democracy to outdo us in democratic behavior.
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PHILIPPINE President Gloria Arroyo will not interfere with an impeachment case filed against the nation's top graftbuster over a multi-million dollar corruption scandal, her office said Tuesday. 'The impeachment case against the ombudsman involves an internal process of Congress, which the palace cannot and will not interfere with,' deputy presidential spokeswoman Lorelei Fajardo told reporters.
Mrs Arroyo however remains 'optimistic' that legislators will 'handle this case with judiciousness, objectivity, fairness and reason,' she said.
Mrs Arroyo's critics on Monday filed an impeachment complaint against Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez, alleging she betrayed public trust by not prosecuting those involved in alleged corruption in a World Bank-funded road project. They accused Ms Gutierrez of protecting Arroyo's family, since one of those implicated in the corruption case is the president's husband, Jose Miguel Arroyo.
The World Bank earlier blacklisted several Chinese and Philippine firms it said had colluded in the bidding for a US$33 million (S$51.14 million) road rehabilitation project. It sent a report to the Senate quoting witnesses who charged Jose Miguel Arroyo was among the political figures who supported the cartel in cornering lucrative deals.
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Barack Obama draws a gloomy picture of the US economy in the first quarter of the year, saying he sees "little promise" for improvement.
That should drive the market down another couple hundred points ...
"The economy's performance in the last quarter of 2008 was the worst in over 25 years, and frankly, the first quarter of this year holds out little promise for better returns," the US President said during a visit to the US Department of Transportation on Tuesday, AFP said.
Trying to be transparent and outspoken about the economic downturn Obama said "From Wall Street to Main Street, to kitchen tables all across America, our economic challenge is clear."
With a hefty 787 billion dollar stimulus plan, the first African-American President and his team pledged to save the sinking US economy, help the ailing US financial markets and create or save 3.5 million jobs over the next two years. Obama has vowed to pave the way for the Medicare to include more than 45 million Americans who are without any kind of insurance.
There goes another few hundred points on the Dow ...
The meltdown, first felt in the home markets and the financial centers, now is quite apparent all across the US with millions of jobs lost and scores of factories closed.
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Will realise money don't grow on trees any day now.
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But his poll numbers are still high - 60% believe he is doing a good job, according to a poll I heard this morning, and more folks think we're 'headed in the right direction' (46%) than any time since 2004.
It's nice to have the Media Machine™ on your side.
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"Obama sees little economy" could arguably be as accurate.
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He is on a cliff and knows it. Every time he looks down he gets vertigo and its only a matter of time when gravity takes over. If you listened to Geithner yesterday you would have shaken your head in absolute amazement at his chutzpah (talking about going after tax cheats) and his complete ignorance of basic economics. I say that if his mortgage bill and budget go as he plans there is going to be a silent majority type revolution.
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there is going to be a silent majority type revolution.
It's bloody already happening. Raise capital gains and diddle with the taxes, talk 'doom & gloom,' scare the banks, then wonder why people are pulling out of the market and not investing..... duhhhh? Americans know how to handle these donk clowns. They'll tighten their budgets, postpone large purchases, and squeeze that nichol until the buffalo shi*s.
My fear is, 6-12 even 18 months from now when these clueless bastards discover none of their bailout schemes are working and we're in total stagnation, what kind of wild crisis will these people then create?
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The market losses are to a large degree simply the recognition that the market gains of the past decade or two were largely illusions, built on pyramids of debt.
The debt will not, indeed can not be repaid. It seems to me the government is managing that debt by 'printing' more money to pay it off. This transfers some (most) of the losses to those people and companies who did NOT have debt. The 'bills' will be paid by those who still have something with which to pay them.
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Yes, Glenmore, that's how the banks have run the credit card scam for the last three decades as well. Before the Carter inflation set in and the banks got states to lift their usury law interest ceilings, it was hard to get a card. When the prime finally went to lower single digits the banks kept their rates pegged at the higher teens and low twenties. They then gave everyone and anyone a card because they could just pass the losses to the other card holders. Every responsible card holder was stuck with the 'bill' for those who shouldn't have received credit in the first place. Now they've done the same scam to the entire country while playing 'victim' to their own long established behavior. When Bush senior made of point of this usury scam, the bankers and their agents dumped on the stock market the next day and Bushie-I folded instead of threatening to use RICO if any one was caught playing that game. Instead of getting the regulatory correction we needed back then, we're now paying the price for not doing so.
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Following #6: I propose:
a) that the kulaks be ordered to deliver all their grain surpluses immediately at government prices;
b) that if the kulaks refuse to obey the law, they should be prosecuted under Article 107 . . . and their grain surpluses confiscated in favor of the state; 25 percent of the confiscated grain to be distributed among the poor peasants and economically weaker middle peasants at low government prices . . . Stalin, 1928. Read it, substitute abusive father overtone with today's nanny state rhetoric. Every time they talk about fart tax and dust tax or any other EPA/Fed involvement more than it is, this is what they are getting towards. Low grain prices (right now) with triple the taxes and Steinbeck's book would tame in comparison.
There seems to be a spontaneous questioning if this is some sort of derrangement syndrome, there are people here who still wear their Obama shirts who are also worried. I don't think its some sort of ODS but more WTF.
Car starts sputtering out in BFE, oil light comes on. Towtruck takes it to their garage. "Well what you need is more oil." Sure you say so they fill it it oil at 3x the price...also put oil in transmission, antifreez, and wiper fluid. Get a couple miles down the road and car wipes out. They come pick you up again and this time tell you the car is ruined; but "I got a car out back I could sell to you for a low price but anytime I need to use it I can come get it anytime for however long. Deal?" Thats when you realize that you should have watched that dude 'fix' your car, should have just bought the oil and limped into the next town. May have cost ya a good chunk of money but it would have been better than what's going on now.
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The severity of the problem will only sink in to some less-aware Americans when their power is shut off, and food and gasoline are either prohibitively priced or just plain unavailable.
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VIENNA - U.N. nuclear watchdog governors on Tuesday approved a deal allowing extra inspections of Indias atomic industry, a condition of a U.S.-led deal allowing New Delhi to import nuclear technology after a 33-year freeze. Passage of an Additional Protocol somewhat expanding the International Atomic Energy Agencys monitoring rights in India came a month after New Delhi signed a basic nuclear safeguards accord opening its civilian nuclear plants to U.N. inspections.
True that Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif have been disqualified by a controversial Supreme Court decision but there are possibilities that the script for their political elimination was written outside Pakistan. 
