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Baghdad operations commander orders the Iraqi army to move in Sinak and Khilani to protect the protesters
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Afghanistan
‘10 Police Killed’ in Kunduz: Sources
[ToloNews] Kunduz police chief confirmed the festivities but did not provide security forces casualties.

"At least 10 Afghan police were killed, including police commander Mohammad Zahir," in a clash with the Taliban
...mindless ferocity in a turban...
in Imam Sahib district in the northeastern province of Kunduz on Thursday evening, security sources said.

The clash also left three Taliban fighters dead, according to sources.

The clash occurred when a group of Talibs attacked two police checkpoints in Joi Begum and Kyrgyz villages in Imam Sahib district, Kunduz provincial council member Khaluddin Hakimi said. He said the casualties "might be higher than 10."

Assadullah, a resident of Imam Sahib district, said that casualties among government forces have "increased" recently in nighttime attacks by the Taliban in the district.

He said the residents are concerned about this.

Kunduz police chief Colonel Amanullah Ibrahimi said the festivities happened and there were casualties among the police force members. But he did not provide an exact figure on it.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [173 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Africa Horn
At least eight killed in Kenya in suspected Islamist militant attack
[Jpost] Several people were killed on Friday when suspected Islamist holy warriors attacked a bus in Kenya near the border with Somalia, police and local media outlets said.

Stephen Ng'etich, the police commander for Wajir county, told Rooters the bus had been attacked in an area called Kotulo, without providing details of casualties.

"A group of gunnies ambushed a bus travelling to northern Kenya this evening ... We suspect al-Shabaab
...... al-Qaeda's tentacle in East Africa...
was involved," he said, referring to the Islamist krazed killer group from Somalia.

Al-Shabaab has targeted Kenya many times since the East African nation sent its troops across the border to fight the holy warriors in their homeland in October 2011.

The local privately-owned Citizen TV channel said that eight people had been killed. Police front man Charles Owino said "lives are believed to have been lost", without giving details.

The Medina Bus Company vehicle was travelling between Wajir and Mandera when it was ambushed at about 5.30 pm local time (1430 GMT), Owino said in a statement.

Ismail Adan, a resident, said those who were killed were ordered out of the bus and shot at close range. Police did not immediately comment on this.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 08:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [281 views] Top|| File under: al-Shabaab (AQ)


Africa Subsaharan
DR Congo: Several hacked to death in suspected rebel attacks
[Aljazeera] At least 17 people have been hacked to death in two rebel attacks in the eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), a local official has said.

On Thursday afternoon, the rebels killed 14 people in Mantumbi, a village 17 kilometres (11 miles) west of the city of Oicha, said Donat Kibwana, administrator of the Beni territory.

Earlier that day, they had killed two and beheaded a third in Kolokoko, a suburb of Oicha, he told the Reuters News Agency.

"Everybody has fled the village [Mantumbi]. There are only soldiers here, who are in the process of helping to remove the bodies of the people who were all killed with knives," he said
Life Magazine cover, 12 February 1965.
The violence has been blamed on the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF), an armed group which officials say is responsible for a string of massacres since the start of November.
ISIS has been claiming their attacks recently, but the ADF does not seem to have made a public proclamation of fealty to them or anyone else.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 08:16 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [300 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nothing is very likely to change in the next 60 years either.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 8:23 Comments || Top||

#2  they had killed two and beheaded a third

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/07/2019 15:48 Comments || Top||

#3  For a total of three dead... if my math holds.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 15:54 Comments || Top||

#4  It was not being dead that one dreaded,
But life after being beheaded:
"A star at the bar,
You can't drive your own car,
And you never know who you just bedded."
Posted by: Victor Emmanuel Whinert8537 || 12/07/2019 19:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Zenobia F, I sit in awe at your mind’s gymnastics. I suspect that by this point limericks and occasionally other poetic forms fall from your lips as either pearls & precious gems or frogs & toads — depending on the fairy tale curse — every time you read Rantburg, and often enough elsewhere as well.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 19:24 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
2 Ansarullah Bangla team members held in Dhaka
[Dhaka Tribune] Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) has arrested two suspected members of banned bad boy organization Ansarullah Bangla Team (ABT) from Dhaka’s Pallabi.

They were arrested Thursday night, reports UNB.

The arrestees are Manjurul Islam Shohag, 26, and Shukkur Ali, 22.

Confirming the matter, RAB 4 Assistant Superintendent of Police (ASP) Mizanur Rahman (media) said: "Acting on a tip-off,
[RING!]
Cop shoppe! Sergeant Shafiq speaking!
Lissen! Dis is Mahmoud da Weasel! I got a tip for youse...

a team of RAB 4 members conducted a drive in the Pallabi area, and arrested them."

The elite force officials recovered some leaflets and jihadi books from their possession.
No knives, shutter guns, or rounds of bullet? Not really worth the RAB’s time, unless they were incidental in the search for someone wanted on twelve planets, and therefore worth encontering.
Posted by: Fred || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [188 views] Top|| File under: Ansarullah Bangla Team (AQIS)


Europe
Germany deported more than 90 'potential terrorists'
[DW] Since 2016, Germany has deported a number of people suspected of being willing or capable of carrying out terrorist attacks. The government figures were released in response to a parliamentary inquiry.

Officials said that 40% of the people deported were from Syria, while others held Iraqi, Ottoman Turkish and Russian citizenship.
Germany has deported 90 "Gefährder" and other "relevant persons" since the 2016 attack on a Berlin Christmas market, according to German newsmagazine Der Spiegel, which cited a government response to a parliamentary inquiry from the business-friendly Free Democrats (FDP) on Friday.

In Germany a "Gefährder" (lit. "endangerer") is someone who could pose a threat to public safety as certain "facts justify the assumption that he or she may commit a severe crime."

Such individuals are often identified by German intelligence authorities as potential terror suspects and a threat to public safety.

In response to the FDP inquiry, officials said that 40% of the people deported were from Syria, while others held Iraqi, Ottoman Turkish and Russian citizenship.

The federal government currently has 225 "suspects" under examination by authorities who may face deportation or other legal consequences.

In February 2018, at the request of the country's far-right Alternative for Germany party, the federal government reported that there were 745 people in Germany who could be potential Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that they were al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're really very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear western pols talk they're not really Moslems....
group-connected terrorists.

'URGENT' NEED FOR FEDERAL AUTHORITY
Stephan Thomae, the FDP's expert on domestic affairs, argued that deportation figures appear to be dependent on "which federal state is responsible and who is currently in power." Therefore, Germany "urgently needs a federal authority for deportations and effective agreements with the countries of origin," Thomae told Der Spiegel.

The number of deportations differed significantly across the states in Germany. North Rhine-Westphalia had a total of 29 deportations, Baden-Wurttemberg had 16 and Berlin 10. Meanwhile,
...back at the argument, Livia grabbed for Jane's hair to make her point. Jane elbowed her in the face in rebuttal...
Rhineland-Palatinate and Saarland had no statistics available.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 02:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [154 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  What about the other 999,910?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/07/2019 4:28 Comments || Top||


Belgian teacher shares video calling for jihad against Jews
[IsraelTimes] Talal Magri, who teaches at school near Brussels, denies sermon is anti-Semitic; watchdog head: Magri one of many ’preachers spreading poison and turning students into time bombs’.

A teacher on Islam at a Belgian high school posted on Facebook a video of a holy man calling for a jihad, or holy war, against Jews and those who "conspire" with them.

Talal Magri, who teaches about Islam as part of the religions major at the Royal Agri Saint-Georges Athenaeum 35 miles southeast of Brussels, last month posted the video of an unidentified man preaching in Arabic, the La Dernière Heure website on Thursday reported.

"Those who cooperate, work, conspire with the Jews, Allah, take them without delay. Shake their bases and topple their buildings, Allah. Support the jihad fighters, whom some of us find excuses not to join," the preacher is seen saying.

Education ministry officials in Wallonia, the Belgian state that employs Magri, told La Dernière Heure they complained about him to police over hate speech. The school declined to comment on whether he will be allowed to continue to teach there.

Contacted by La Dernière Heure, Magri denied that the sermon mentioned Jews or jihad, adding it couldn’t be anti-Semitic "because I am an Arab and Arabs are Semites, too."
Facile idiot. That’s why we’re going back to the old fashioned “Jew hater”, to avoid ambiguity.
But Khalil Zeguendi, editor of the Le Maroxellois magazine whose mother tongue is Arabic, confirmed to La Dernière Heure the translation as they printed it.

Magri headed the 2018 elections campaign of Belgium’s Islam Party, which supports the promotion of Sharia, Islamic law, and headed its regional list for Liege.

Joel Rubinfeld, the president of the Belgian League Against Anti-Semitism, called Magri one of multiple "preachers spreading poison and turning students into time bombs."
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [183 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  On the question of Islam, China is right and the rest of the World is wrong.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB || 12/07/2019 3:09 Comments || Top||

#2  You can question their methods, but at least the ChiComs recognize the problem. Should I mention Myanmar?
Posted by: SteveS || 12/07/2019 10:33 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Canada police arrest man previously detained in Turkey for joining ISIS
[Jpost] Canadian police arrested a man on terror charges who was previously detained by Ottoman Turkish authorities for being part of ISIS, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said on Friday.

Ikar Mao, 22, of Guelph, Ontario, a city 100 km (62.14 miles) west of Toronto, has been charged with participation in the activity of a terror group, and leaving Canada to participate in such a group, the police said in a statement.

Mao appeared in court on Friday, RCMP spokeswoman Louise Savard said in an email. She declined to give further details.

The RCMP investigation leading to Mao's arrest began on July 11, and stemmed from a complaint from an unnamed source, Savard said. He was arrested and charged by Ottoman Turkish authorities and held until a court hearing, she added, noting that no conviction has been registered in The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...the only place on the face of the earth that misses the Ottoman Empire...
Mao returned to Canada on Oct. 19, Savard said.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 08:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [174 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


Home Front: WoT
From King Clumsy to Queen Dream, more than 60 alleged East Coast Latin Kings members arrested in ‘Operation Throne Down’
[MassLive] More than 500 federal, state and local authorities arrested more than 60 people in the Northeast early Thursday morning, including 47 people across Massachusetts, on racketeering, drug distribution and firearms charges. All were connected with the Latin Kings’ East Coast network, authorities announced Thursday morning.

Authorities seized dozens of firearms Thursday morning, including a submachine gun, a sawed-off shotgun and an AR-15 rifle, U.S. Attorney Andrew Lelling said during a news conference. A handful of firearms, including a hot pink gun, were placed on display inside the Boston federal courthouse as the charges were announced.

Officers also seized $38,000 in cash, six cars, six motorcycles, three jet skis, an ATV and various drugs.

“Anyone who tries to fill the void left by today’s arrears should know, we’re not going to tolerate those who terrorize our neighborhoods and put innocent people at risk,” said Joseph Bonavolonta, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Boston Field Division.

At least 46 of those people were charged with racketeering and 17 of those were charged with drug-related offenses. Others faced charges for being felons in possession of firearms and ammunition.

During their investigation, authorities prevented eight murders, Lelling said.

ALLEGATIONS OF MURDER, ROBBERY AND ASSAULT
Alleged Latin Kings members attended regular meetings where they planned, discussed and executed murder, robberies, assault, drug distribution and other crimes, according to the indictment. Like other gangs, they’re accused of recruiting minors and using them to commit crimes for the gang and hazing new members by assaulting them.

The Latin Kings members sold cocaine, crack cocaine, fentanyl and marijuana to earn money for the gang and pay their dues, according to the indictment. Authorities said they used some of the drug money to pay their dues.

DRUGS AND GUNS ALLEGEDLY STORED IN 'TRAP HOUSES’
Members hid their firearms, known as “nation” guns, and drugs in “trap houses,” according to the indictment. One alleged associate, Robert Avitabile, obtained “de facto” control of several apartment buildings in New Bedford where contraband was stored and meetings were held.

The indictment doesn’t elaborate on how Avitabile allegedly obtained control of the buildings.

Authorities said Avitabile was aware of the criminal activity and tried to launder the drug money into renovation projects at some of the properties.

LATIN KINGS HAS 10 CHAPTERS IN MASSACHUSETTS
Massachusetts is home to 10 chapters of the Latin Kings network, according to the indictment. Prosecutors said there are chapters for Fitchburg, Lowell, Worcester, Springfield, the Lynn/Salem/Chelsea area, New Bedford, the Devon Street in Boston and the Morton Street Bricks area in Boston.

They were overseen by a “state team,” which answered to the East Coast leadership.

In prison, Latin Kings members followed a similar hierarchy, according to the indictment.

The gang also had a “crown council” in Massachusetts that was tasked with resolving disputes among chapters, the indictment states.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 01:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under: Narcos

#1  All of the weapons obtained legally of course.
Posted by: Uleck Spererong9442 || 12/07/2019 9:00 Comments || Top||

#2  missing ‘round of bullet’ count, number of wanted systems, but not a bad start if this is a new RAB-USA franchise.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 12/07/2019 9:22 Comments || Top||

#3  This will only make them mad. We should drop pallets of cash over Latin King territory instead, and withdraw the cops.
Posted by: Matt || 12/07/2019 11:58 Comments || Top||

#4  ^ Early Snark O' The Day Contender/ Troll Slam
Posted by: Frank G || 12/07/2019 12:21 Comments || Top||

#5  :-)
Posted by: Matt || 12/07/2019 13:17 Comments || Top||


Day 2: Saudi king orders security services to cooperate with U.S. in probe of Florida shooting, six Saudis arrested near base, manifesto posted on Twitter
Yesterday’s events can be seen here.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia’s King Salman told U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday he has directed his security services to cooperate with U.S. authorities investigating the deadly shooting at a Florida military base and assured him the "perpetrator of this heinous crime" does not represent the Saudi people.

King Salman expressed "his sorrow and grief" over the shooting, the Saudi embassy in Washington said in a statement after a phone call between the two leaders.

"His Majesty affirmed that the perpetrator of this heinous crime does not represent the Saudi people, who count the American people as friends and allies," the statement said. The king "directed Saudi security services to cooperate with the relevant American agencies to uncover information that will help determine the cause of this horrific attack."

Six Saudis are arrested over Pensacola naval base shooting including three who FILMED the attack by countryman who killed three and wounded eight before being shot dead - as FBI probes terror link

[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Shooting took place on base early Friday morning, sparking a lockdown

  • Sources identified the suspected gunman as Saudi Air Force aviation student Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, who was armed with a hand gun

  • As of Friday evening, six Saudi nationals were detained near the base for questioning

  • It's reported that three of them filmed the shooting as it happened

  • Rep Matt Gaetz, a Republican representing Pensacola, called the shooting 'an act of terrorism'

  • President Trump tweeted that King Salman told him 'the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter...'

  • Three other people were shot and killed during incident inside classroom building on base
The Saudi Air Force trainee who killed three and injured eight when he opened fire at a naval base in Florida on Friday assailed the United States as 'a nation of evil' just before his shooting rampage, AFP reports.

The man, identified as Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, opened fire inside a classroom at Naval Air Station in Pensacola early Friday morning. Police quickly responded to the scene and he was shot dead.

Alshamrani was a second lieutenant attending the aviation school at the base. The Pentagon say his training with the US military began in August 2016, and was due to finish in August 2020.

On Friday evening, the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors jihadist media, claimed they had tracked a Twitter account belonging to Alshamrani which featured a disturbing tweet written just hours before the shooting.

'I'm against evil, and America as a whole has turned into a nation of evil,' the tweet read.

'I'm not against you for just being American, I don't hate you because your freedoms, I hate you because every day you supporting, funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity,' Alshamrani wrote.

ABC News reported that investigators were working to determine if if the tweet was in fact written by the shooter.

The Twitter account that posted the manifesto - which also condemned US support for Israel and included a quote from Al-Qaeda's deceased leader, the Saudi Osama bin Laden - has now been suspended.

In recent weeks, 18 naval aviators and two aircrew members from the Royal Saudi Naval Forces were training with the US Navy, including at Pensacola, according to a November 15 press release from the Navy. It was not clear if the suspected shooter was part of that delegation.

The delegation came under a Navy program that offers training to US allies, known as the Naval Education and Training Security Assistance Field Activity.

A person familiar with the program said that Saudi Air Force officers selected for military training in the United States are intensely vetted by both countries.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [877 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ok, Mohamhead, tell us everything you know or we hand you over to the Saudis and look the other way for a little while.
Posted by: gorb || 12/07/2019 2:36 Comments || Top||

#2  "I'm not against you for just being American, I don't hate you because your freedoms, I hate you because every day you supporting, funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity"

Gosh, it's almost as if bombings don't work and just create more terrorists. It's been 18 yewrs. If it was going to work, it would have worked by now. Time for a new strategy.

Withdraw our troops from the Middle East. We don't need their dirty oil any more. We are self-sufficient and produce more than Saudi Arabia today. Let those camel fuckers drown in their own shit.

Bomb them with money instead. I'm talking about loose pallets of US currency of all denominations, pushed out of the back of C-17s over towns and rural areas, It would work better and cost less than what we're spending on endless war right now. Moreover it would stop breeding more terrorists and those people would be alive today.

What we're doing today isn't working. Let's win this and get the troops home.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 2:37 Comments || Top||

#3  ESAD, Herb.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 12/07/2019 2:45 Comments || Top||

#4  And we HAVE "bombed them with money". Doesn't matter -- they're ordered to hate us by the demons they worship.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 12/07/2019 2:46 Comments || Top||

#5  4 years of training????
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB || 12/07/2019 3:20 Comments || Top||

#6  'I'm not against you for just being American, I don't hate you because your freedoms, I hate you because every day you supporting, funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity,' Alshamrani wrote.

He was democrat! Who knew ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 3:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Gosh, it's almost as if bombings don't work and just create more terrorists.

Are you for real ? Bombings in Saudi Arabia ? The USA has created disenfranchised, victimized youth in Saudi fuccking Arabia ?!

Seriously, come clean. You can't be this naive. You just don't mean well, do you ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 4:21 Comments || Top||

#8  King Salman expressed "his sorrow and grief" over the shooting

Sorry Salman, "sorrow and grief" won't work anymore. Let us read about his family disappearing.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/07/2019 4:27 Comments || Top||

#9  Three of the hijackers from 9/11 had the addresses on their driver’s licenses listed as being at NAS Pensacola. Fifteen of them were Saudi nationals, all backed by Bin Laden.

The real crime here is that saudi nationals or any fucking muslims were even allowed near aviation bases after 9/11.

It's not like the sheikhs in Riyadh would have whined about 'treatment' after what happened. A nation loses thousands in an attack, people understand if you can't trust them. But politicians never even tried. The first really masculine thing was done by Trump when he called for a blanket ban on muslim immigrants.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 4:29 Comments || Top||

#10  Forget the "heroism." How about some focus on security, or lack thereof? Fort Hood? Anyone in gov't remember MAJ Nadal Hasan? Hello, hello ?

NAS Pensacola commander on 'heroism' and being 'devastated' after deadly shooting
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 4:45 Comments || Top||

#11  Nidal. Nidal Hassan, Anwar Awlaki's cyber whore.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 4:50 Comments || Top||

#12  And whom might Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani's "cyber whore" be ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 4:56 Comments || Top||

#13  "Bombings in Saudi Arabia ?"

No, bombings in the Muslim world. As the man literally says. Has nothing to do with specific countries of the Westphalian variety.

The US has created victimized youth all over the Umma, which this Saudi acted on behalf of. It's like if someone started killing Iowans, and you'd be like, "well I'm from Pennsylvania so I don't care." We're all Americans.

Can people not see this? I'd think after 18 years of war we'd know things like this.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 5:13 Comments || Top||

#14  This story about evil and war and angst maybe their new mindfuck which they reckon will work on our mentally soporose jurists.

I will venture further to say that someone in the vetting process has probably let not one but several Alshamranis through.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 5:15 Comments || Top||

#15  The US has created victimized youth all over the Umma

WTF ?

[sung to a disco rhythm now]

The taqiyah is slippin' ♫ off my head,
I'd rather say this, be happily dead...
♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
'Muricans ! Bane of the world.
What are we good for, anyway ?
♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
Thou shall not dope, shalt enlist;
but we got our own ray-ray-rainbow list ? ♪
♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
We don't need it, nobody does.
But we'll bear it, wear it,
absolutely nightmare ♪it...

... until it goes ! ♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 5:35 Comments || Top||

#16  Since we know who they are, and where they are staying, it really is too bad there are not intelligence community programmes in place to contact and possibly monitor these foreign military exchange persons.

[sarc off]
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 5:42 Comments || Top||

#17  We need a new General Sherman. Plus salt the earth.
Posted by: Beau || 12/07/2019 6:00 Comments || Top||

#18  Trolling B Herb
Posted by: Frank G || 12/07/2019 6:52 Comments || Top||

#19  The mistake since the Beirut Barracks - well before 911 -- is being too PC correct and targeting troops instead of mullahs.
Posted by: 3dc || 12/07/2019 8:10 Comments || Top||

#20  Planned attack being video recorded by other Saudis. Can you say felony murder conspiracy?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/07/2019 8:29 Comments || Top||

#21  Planned attack being video recorded by other Saudis. Can you say felony murder conspiracy?

I can say "Arabs".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/07/2019 8:31 Comments || Top||

#22  well, our 'Umma' is civilization
Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 || 12/07/2019 8:48 Comments || Top||

#23  A) Muslim consider themselves part of a group called 'the Umma', which is their global faith community

B) Many Muslims yearn for that 'Umma' to unite and have its own state (the Caliphate); the issue being that beyond that they agree on very little; on how to apply Sharia, what form the government should have etc.

C) In any case, there is a sense of belonging which could meet the criteria. Therefore, they could be considered a nation, much like Jews are considered and many consider themselves part of the Jewish nation.

D) So, once we see those that see themselves part of the Umma and that this Umma should have its own state as a nation, you can understand the frustration of some people with this whole deal. I would have expected Rantburgers of all people to know all of this already, but I guess not.

Le sigh.

Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 9:20 Comments || Top||

#24  Bin Herb is saying that the porKoranic teaching to convert threw terrorism, enslavement the world to Dhimmitude or flat out murder us all has nothing to do with muslim terrorism?

But giving cash to fund jihad a good idea? Which by the way is why Barry should be charged with treason.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (Satan, etc.). So fight you against the friends of Shaitan (Satan)"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them.

I've always enjoyed reading Herb's views on a number of topics. Unfortunately sinners can repent but stupid is forever.

Please Herb, on this, the December 7th, feel free to go directly to Florida and then Pearl Harbor. Explain to the murdered victims families how it's all our fault for fighting back, to stand for freedom.

Piece of pork be upon you.
Posted by: Woodrow || 12/07/2019 9:54 Comments || Top||

#25  May the p*ss and sh*t of monkey and pigs be upon him (Mo, not Herb...)
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/07/2019 10:01 Comments || Top||

#26  Sorry Woodrow, December 7th is when Herb bunks on the couch with his current Haruki Murakami book and complains that America has always started wars over oil.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/07/2019 10:47 Comments || Top||

#27  Let them hate, so long as they fear.

Posted by: SteveS || 12/07/2019 11:00 Comments || Top||

#28  As Ed McMahon said in a Johnny Carson skit "Too dumb to be scared, sir..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/07/2019 11:06 Comments || Top||

#29  #9 What Dron said.

Re Mr. McCoy, Herb may have the wrong diagnosis but I'm not sure I disagree with the prescription: We need to detach ourselves from the Magic Kingdom. It's causing us nothing but grief.

Maybe time to give Offshore Balancing a try?
Posted by: Lex || 12/07/2019 11:15 Comments || Top||

#30  If Adam Schiff had a mustache...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/07/2019 11:35 Comments || Top||

#31  FBI will soon announce Mo Saheed and his coharts "have been on the FBI's radar for several months now."
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 11:45 Comments || Top||

#32  Its funny how we "fight" this war on terror with one hand behind our back and insistence on civilized behavior. How many 9/11s will it take until we say "enough" and decide to obliterate that black rock at Mecca and take out the leaders of those Islamic shitholes?
Posted by: Crusader || 12/07/2019 15:19 Comments || Top||

#33  Mark Esper is saying 'not terrorism.' Larger thing in play here ? Appeasement of saudis or reeling in someone like the fellow students and associates ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 16:14 Comments || Top||

#34  Some Saudi Honcho vouched for him and the others. Should be a field trip (one way) to the Empty Quarter
Posted by: Frank G || 12/07/2019 17:00 Comments || Top||

#35  I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 12/07/2019 17:07 Comments || Top||

#36  Send them all back to the Magic Kingdom, every last one of them. Tell them "sorry, you're no longer welcome here."

We're out of Schlitz. No visits, no visas, nothing. You have 48 hours !
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 17:12 Comments || Top||

#37  ^ I was thinking of what Washington DC asshole vouched. Send the boosh DNA to the Sun.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/07/2019 17:16 Comments || Top||

#38  Problem, #36 is they buy jet fighters from us. Training is part of the package.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/07/2019 17:18 Comments || Top||

#39  bin herb was the best
Posted by: chris || 12/07/2019 18:23 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Many killed in central Baghdad as assailants fire live rounds
[Aljazeera] Iraqi officials have raised Friday's death toll to at least 20 after a bloody night of attacks by unidentified gunmen that targeted anti-government demonstrators near the main protest camp in the capital city.

More than 130 others were also wounded by gunfire and stabbings near Tahrir Square, the main protest camp in the Iraqi capital, the Associated Press reported, citing health and security officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

It was the most violent flare-up in the capital for weeks and came a week after Iraqi's prime minister, Adel Abdul Mahdi, said he would resign following two months of anti-government protests.

The women on the front line of Iraq's uprisings
Muhasasa, the political system reviled by Iraqi protesters
Iraq's striking students defiant amid unrelenting protests
Gunmen on pick-up trucks late on Friday attacked a large building near the al-Sinak bridge where anti-government protesters had been camped out for weeks, witnesses told the AFP news agency.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 08:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [309 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iraq

#1  They couldn't wait to have us leave. Guys I have talked to said they couldn't wait to leave. Seems almost everybody is getting what they want.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/07/2019 10:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Never should have dismantled the Ba'athist Party.
Hindsight, etc
Posted by: Lex || 12/07/2019 11:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Are we really needed there any more? Why set up shop in a festering hellhole?
Posted by: jpal || 12/07/2019 19:50 Comments || Top||


Baghdad operations commander orders the Iraqi army to move in Sinak and Khilani to protect the protesters
[TWITTER]

Posted by: Fred || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [404 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iraq

#1  Always a good sign when Regular Army stands up against the secret police.
Posted by: Skidmark || 12/07/2019 17:46 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Commission for Human Rights warns of possible ‘massacre’ in Baghdad
[Rudaw] Iraqi High Commission for Human Rights (IHCHR) issued a statement warning that a "security escalation" in central Baghdad might lead to a "massacre" of protesters in the area.

According to AP, unknown gangs opened fire on protesters late Friday in Baghdad’s Khilani Square. At least 15 people died and more than 60 others were maimed.

IHCHR also called on the security forces to bring back "stability" to the squares and streets where protests are taking place, and stated that these forces are responsible for the lives of the protesters.

Currently, unidentified gangs are pushing protesters stationed in Khilani Square, Ahrar Bridge, and Sinak Bridge back toward Tahrir Square, the central locus of the protest movement in Baghdad.

Ahrar, Sinak and al-Jimhuriyah bridges all lead to the Green Zone (also known as the international zone), the heavily fortified safe haven of the Iraqi federal government and the location of all of Baghdad’s foreign embassies and diplomatic missions.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [172 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iraq


Kirkuk police officer killed in roadside blast
[Rudaw] One police officer died and two were severely injured after their vehicle struck an IED in the Panja Ali neighborhood of Kirkuk on Friday.

A Rudaw news hound at the scene reported that a roadside kaboom caused the police vehicle to explode while worshipers in Panja Ali were leaving mosques after Friday prayers. A number of people were maimed, and a Kurdish member of the emergency police named Karwan Osman Yasin died as a result of his injuries.

No one has grabbed credit for the attack, but Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that they were al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're really very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear western pols talk they're not really Moslems....
(ISIS) sleeper cells have conducted similar attacks in the past.

Kirkuk province is a disputed territory claimed by both the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) and the Iraqi Federal government.

After the Iraqi armed forces fled the advancing Islamic State (ISIS) in 2014 and Kurdish Peshmerga forces stepped in to defend Kirkuk,
... a thick stew of Arabs, Turkmen, Kurds, and probably Antarcticans, all of them mutually hostile most of the time...
the city fell under the control of the KRG. Iraqi forces then drove the Peshmerga out of Kirkuk in October 2017 in the wake of the Kurdish independence referendum.

ISIS frequently takes advantage of the lack of cooperation between the Iraqi and Kurdish armed forces to launch attacks in Kirkuk.

Several people were maimed on November 30 after two explosions took place in downtown Kirkuk and in the countryside surrounding the city.

On November 11, five Italian soldiers were maimed in a roadside IED blast in Kirkuk while conducting counter-terrorism training for the Iraqi armed forces.

ISIS has increased its attacks in other disputed areas as well. The most recent attack was in Diyala province’s Kolajo (Golajo) sub-district on Wednesday, killing three Peshmerga fighters.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [175 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


Three Peshmerga killed as Islamic State attacks in Diyala continue to increase
[Rudaw] Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that they were al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're really very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear western pols talk they're not really Moslems....
(ISIS) button men last night attacked a Peshmerga infantry brigade in the village of Deke Sarcham, southwest of Khanaqin, killing three Peshmerga fighters and injuring two others.

The three Peshmerga killed in the attack are from the towns of Kifri, Chamchamal and Darbandikhan.

The Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF, known in Arabic as Hashd al-Shaabi) have been supporting the Peshmerga alongside the Iraqi Army. A PMF fighter was also killed in the attack.

ISIS snipers took advantage of poor visibility brought on by foggy weather conditions to conduct the attack.

A paramedic called to the scene detailed how the adverse weather conditions made it difficult to reach those injured.

"We were unable to reach the injuries because the road was too foggy that we couldn’t see even at 10 meters," Afshin Mahmoud said. "We could only save two injured Peshmerga. They are now well."

ISIS button men reorganized over the summer and have been well-trained as snipers.

Graphic: Maps4news, Sarkawt Mohammed / Rudaw

According to the information from Peshmerga intelligence, 12 ISIS button men conducted the attack; close to 40 more were deployed as supporting forces.

"ISIS button men are hiding in the vegetation alongside the Sirwan river. They are planning their attacks there," said Omed Majid, head of Kalar’s police directorate.

President of the Kurdistan Region Nechirvan Barzani - who is also General Commander of the Region’s armed forces ‐ said the attack was proof of the threat the group continue to pose.

"The ISIS (ISIS) attack on a Kurdistan Peshmerga brigade following a string of recent terrorist attacks of the past months in Kirkuk and Garmiyan areas is proof of the fact that ISIS has not ended. They are still a security threat to the peace and Asayesh. The fight to exterminate this dangerous enemy of humanity continues," a Thursday statement from the President read.

"We are assuring the people of Kurdistan that the Peshmerga forces and other armed forces of Kurdistan are as always, on alert to repelling and defeating any move turbans make and to protecting the land and the people of Kurdistan from any danger," he added.

ISIS has in recent days conducted a spate of attacks in Diyala province against the Peshmerga, Iraqi Army and PMF.

In the past ten days, three Asayesh (internal Kurdish security force) members and three Peshmerga fighters have been killed in the attacks, with six more injured.

Among Iraqi forces, two army soldiers and six PMF fighters were killed. More than a dozen fighters have been injured, as have three civilians.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [188 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


Peshmerga forces killed in ISIS attack near Iran border: reports
[Rudaw] Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that they were al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're really very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear western pols talk they're not really Moslems....
(ISIS) bandidos bandidos krazed killers attacked Kurdish Peshmerga forces in Kolajo (Golajo), Diyala province near the Iraq-Iran
...a theocratic Shiite state divided among the Medes, the Persians, and the (Arab) Elamites. Formerly a fairly civilized nation ruled by a Shah, it became a victim of Islamic revolution in 1979. The nation is today noted for spontaneously taking over other countries' embassies, maintaining whorehouses run by clergymen, involvement in international drug trafficking, and financing sock puppet militias to extend the regime's influence. The word Iran is a cognate form of Aryan, the abbreviation IRGC is a cognate form of Stürmabteilung (or SA), the term Supreme Guide is a cognate form of either Shah or Führer or maybe both, and they hate Jews Zionists Jews. Their economy is based on the production of oil and vitriol...
border late Wednesday, according to reports from the scene. Initial reports suggest injuries and fatalities.

The attack comes just days after ISIS killed three Kurdish security force personnel (Asayesh) in the area.

Located in the Garmiyan area, the village of Dakay Sarcham, where the attack took place, is roughly a kilometer from where the three Asayesh men, including their commander, were killed in ISIS shelling on November 30.

In the face of this ISIS resurgence, the Ministry of Peshmerga Affairs called on the international community to increase its military support.

More Peshmerga forces have been deployed to the area, he said.

The Ministry of Peshmerga Affairs confirmed the attack, claiming its forces had repelled the ISIS assault.

ISIS attacked Peshmerga forces in Kolajo but "the attack was soon repelled by Peshmerga forces who chased them and repelled the attack," the ministry said in a statement.

"We assure the people of Kurdistan that Peshmerga forces are on full alert to protect the people and soil of Kurdistan and terminate terror," it added.

The ministry did not confirm casualties.

It called on its allies in the international coalition to defeat ISIS to "increase its aid, support, and coordination with Peshmerga forces and the ministry in order to prevent the spread of terrorist groups."

Rudaw’s news hound said local units of the Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), also known as Hashd al-Shaabi, attacked ISIS positions in aid of the Peshmerga.

Kolajo in the Garmiyan Region south of Kirkuk has witnessed several attacks by ISIS remnants and sleeper cells. The area is currently under the control of Kurdish Peshmerga and Asayesh.

Sirwan Barzani, a Peshmerga commander, told Rudaw that ISIS will pose a "serious threat" to Iraq if it is not contained.

He said some ISIS imported muscle have moved from Syria to Iraq since their defeat in Baghouz in March 2019.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [123 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Three rockets fired towards southern Israel
[JPost] Three rockets were fired from the Gaza Strip towards southern Israel on Saturday night with two of them intercepted by the Iron Dome missile defense system.

Incoming rocket sirens were activated at around 9 p.m. in Sderot and surrounding communities bordering the northern part of the blockaded coastal enclave.
"Hit us back. We're victims™"
Locals reported hearing blasts, and video shared on social media showed at least two interceptions. The third projectile is believed to have fallen in open territory, causing no damage.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/07/2019 15:37 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [166 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


Thousands of Palestinians protest at the Gaza Strip border, 37 injured
Hattip Frank G, who posted the key paragraphs in a comment yesterday.
[Jpost] The announcement to renew protests was issued in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamaswith about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
after a meeting of representatives of Paleostinian groups on Thursday, December 5.

Approximately 4,000 Paleostinians are protesting at the border with the Gaza Strip on Friday, December 6, after three weeks of Hamas, the braying voice of Islamic Resistance®, refraining from conducting and financing the demonstrations at the border fence.

According to the Paleostinian Ministry of Health, 37 people have been injured so far during fence riots, while the IDF is using means to disperse demonstrations against rioters. According to the Gaza Health Ministry, four protesters were shot with live ammunition by IDF forces, while 10 were maimed by rubber-coeated bullets. Reports also indicate that a paramedic was injured in the riots.

The injured include 10 children and one paramedic from PRCS, east of the Gaza Strip.

The announcement to renew protests was issued in Gaza after a meeting of representatives of Paleostinian groups on Thursday, December 5. The commission urged Paleostinians to "preserve the popular and peaceful character" of the protests, and called for wide participation in Friday’s protests.

The decision to resume the weekly border protests came as Hamas and Paleostinian Islamic Jihad
...created after many members of the Egyptian Moslem Brotherhood decided the organization was becoming too moderate. Operations were conducted out of Egypt until 1981 when the group was exiled after the assassination of President Anwar Sadat. They worked out of Gaza until they were exiled to Lebanon in 1987, where they clove tightly to Hezbollah. In 1989 they moved to Damascus, where they remain a subsidiary of Hezbollah...
leaders continued their discussions in Cairo with senior Egyptian intelligence officials about reaching a long-term ceasefire with Israel. The Hamas delegation is headed by Ismail Haniyeh
...became Prime Minister of Gaza after the legislative elections of 2006 which Hamas won. President Mahmoud Abbas dismissed Haniyeh from office on 14 June 2007 at the height of the Fatah-Hamas festivities, but Haniyeh did not acknowledge the decree and continues as the PM of Gazoo while Abbas maintains a separate PM in the West Bank...
, while the PIJ team is headed by the group’s secretary-general, Ziyad al-Nakhalah.

However,
a good lie finds more believers than a bad truth...
senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya was quoted on Thursday as saying that reports about an imminent ceasefire agreement with Israel are "inaccurate." He told the Hezbollah-affiliated newspaper al-Akhbar that the talk about a long-term truce "or halting resistance acts against the enemy are completely untrue." The Hamas official said that "forms of resistance may change, but we won’t stop resisting the enemy."

Hayya said that the weekly protests will continue because they are a "form of resistance that drains the enemy." A truce with Israel, he added, won’t "tie the hands of the resistance, and certainly won’t prevent it from responding to any aggression."
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 02:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [128 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Turkish military reinforcements head to Idlib after Syrian Army attack
[ALMASDARNEWS] Ottoman Turkish military reinforcements were observed heading to Syria’s Idlib Governorate this week after their troops came under attack by the Syrian Arab Army (SAA).

According to the reports, the Ottoman Turkish military sent reinforcements to the eastern countryside of the Idlib Governorate, which is where their troops were attacked earlier in the week.

The Syrian Arab Army had targeted the Ottoman Turkish observation post area after rockets fired by the jihadist rebels hit their positions near the Abu Dhuhour Airport.

While the Ottoman Turkish Armed Forces did not retaliate for the attack, they made a complaint to the Russian Reconciliation Center.

Posted by: Fred || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [186 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte


Iran deploys air defense system inside #Syria
[TWITTER]

Posted by: Fred || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [155 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Terror Networks
ISIS 2.0 and Guerilla Tactics - The Local Lone Wolf Strike.
Masudul Rehman, an ITBP constable fragged five Hindu soldiers, for no apparent reason. The gummint even wove a stupid story about leave not granted and weddings delayed.
The report:
[HindustanTimes] A constable of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITBP) opened gunfire on a group of colleagues in Narayanpur district of Chhattigarh's Bastar region on Wednesday, killing five of them and injuring two. The constable died too, but it wasn't clear if he had killed himself or been hit by a colleague's bullet.

"An ITBP constable, identified as Masudul Rahman, opened fire from his service weapon, killing four troopers at the spot. Rahman was gunned down by one of jawans in self defence; that jawan died later," Narayanpur's superintendent of police Mohit Garg said. One of the three injured troopers died later.

In New Delhi, ITBP spokesperson Vivek Kumar Pandey said Rahman, a native of West Bengal's Nadia district, killed his colleagues and then shot himself dead.
Again, untrue. He had to be put down by one of the grunts he had shot or he was going to go on shooting.
Those killed in the incident were identified as head constables Mahendra Singh and Daljit Singh, and constables Surjit Sarkar, Biswaroop Mahto and Bijeesh. Constables SB Ullas and Sitaram Doon were injured in the incident.

The injured constables were admitted to a private hospital in Raipur where they were said to be out of danger.

Rahman's father, Marfat Ali Sheikh, a resident of Bilkumri village in the Krishnanagar area of Bengal's Nadia district, said: "Every time we talked in recent weeks my son said he was not getting leave and hence not being able to come home. We wanted to get him married and even selected a girl for him."

"The local police station informed us of the incident after noon. I cannot say why he opened fire on his colleagues. The department may have some reason for not sanctioning leave," said Sheikh.

A senior police officer in Raipur said on condition of anonymity that the reason why Rahman had turned the gun on his colleagues hadn't yet been ascertained.
The above bullshit is not really the news I wanted to post, because the networks have yet to get someone to write a piece on the facts we've let them see. It's not some high secret, just that the news people don't know what to do with the truth. The truth may be... inflammatory.

It happened so, that some related incidents over the past few weeks connected up and the trend was alarming. Some agencies decided to dig further since a pattern was emerging, and the right people were caught at the right time, because they celebrated a bit too brashly. Abdul factor or Providence.

I'm trying to share what I can for now.

Last week, a cell of six individuals was caught by ATS of two states and jointly questioned by civil and mil agencies. On interrogation, two of the ISIS recruits related a story that is yet being checked out by our counterparts elsewhere. Paris, London, Stockholm, Kuala Lumpur, Sydney - their int and police agencies, and the US FBI are also working on related branching cases. Communications out of London brought them orders to act as triggers with entrenched people in 'enemy forces' - mainly military or police depts. The trigger would deliver the order and the 'asset' would execute a strike of opportunity. They were instructed to even arrange weaponry and means if the asset needed it.

Every 'trigger' has only one asset, an asset can have three or four triggers, and some triggers are assets in training. The triggers don't seem to know much about when the asset was recruited or turned. It's like they believe he was always an asset. The caliphate is like the focus of a spiritual patriotism and all it takes for an asset is a whisper like 'you are up next'. All assets and triggers have to be sworn to martyrdom, and the current objective is a statement from the daesh that it's back.

A base has already been tried for in Malaysia, with some politicians helping them. They cannot enter pakistain due to enmity with the taliban, which is ironically a good thing for now. Some people seem to helping them in southern India. A good number of daesh supporters are currently operating, collecting resources and recruiting on the internet from London. The general MO is for now congregating in houses and places owned or arranged by 'triggers'. The paris police killer was the first such attack. The idea seems to be to attack confidence in military and police and demonstrating that the protectors can become killers.

The info is, everybody will be seeing attempts by muslim soldiers in their respective militaries and police organizations to pick up service weapons and attack their fellows or civs. A notification has already gone out to various agencies with a list of characteristics that may be used to identify possible triggers and assets. Some of these traits are a sudden change in religious habits, effecting familiarity with colleagues and a display of sincerity or camaraderie, growth of odd facial hair, and a lot of time spent praying. Also shared has been a list of warnings and suggestions like holding off promotions of 'questionable' immigrant origin personnel to positions in armament and air command authority.

Still developing.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [677 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

#1  Where'd this information come from? Where are the citations?

And before anyone starts more playground insults, this is how adults discuss affairs. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Or is this leaking classified information about an investigation in progress? If so a report needs to be made to the appropriate authorities.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 2:20 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm trying to share what I can for now.

Calm down, Herb.
Posted by: gorb || 12/07/2019 2:33 Comments || Top||

#3  St. Slobodan (Miloshevich) the first martyr of the Tranzi/Muzzi alliance?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB || 12/07/2019 3:14 Comments || Top||

#4  is this leaking classified information about an investigation in progress?

I never trade barbs with people on the internet, or anywhere really. It's uncharitable and puerile. I tried to think up some word describing such monumental assholery that being a suicidal liberal voter pales in comparison to it. But then I deleted it. Now I know what a troll does to people and am richer for it, thanks to Herb.

As for the citations and evidence, they do not exist yet, apart from seemingly unrelated stuff being written off in the media as one-off lone wolf attacks and arrest reports. Which is why my input's in yellow. You can choose to ignore it, the mods can take it down. But this is going down now. There's no chance the media can capitalize it even if they wanted to. No story here, that does not 'endanger the social fabric itself'. A lump of hot coal really.

If my info is correct, we shall be seeing an increasing number of 'inexplicable' incidents on bases, cantonments, police stations, public services etc. They will be carried out by people living among us for years, those who have earned our trust, wear our colors. All I'm saying is, the incidents would not be unrelated, they are meant to be concerted. Granted, they're going to be pathetic and desperate, a bid to recruit more losers. But the very knowledge of such attempts seems to have inadvertently wizened us somehow. The french are disarming their 'likely loons', the british have blown this up in the faces of the bureaucrats who push for diversity in srvices. Some people better than I are going to be soon writing about this.

God Bless the French, the English, the Malaysian SB for sharing and cooperating. Many seem to be correcting course. I hope to God, every house is able to contain this, without incident. Godspeed to all uniforms out there.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 4:02 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm not "trolling", I'm being skeptical about some very strange claims. I then asked for more information and sources. That's not trolling. It's the correct response.

It also struck me that it might be classified information from an investigation in progress, so I aired that concern as well. Also a prudent step, as anyone here knows.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 4:21 Comments || Top||

#6 
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/07/2019 4:24 Comments || Top||

#7  I then asked for more information and sources.

Okay. Will try and set the relevant links in order when I can. I'm sure the separate news of all distributed events will have been printed.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 4:44 Comments || Top||

#8  He's trolling, as usual.
Posted by: Frank G || 12/07/2019 6:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Must be an oreo and couch kind of morning.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/07/2019 11:03 Comments || Top||

#10  A bit of silence here would be prudent, Mr. McCoy.

Dron is a straight shooter. He's got absolutely zero to gain from this little website, and frankly, he's doing you and us a service. Leave his info alone.

Maybe best to go out and walk the dog, shovel some snow, or take some leaves.
Posted by: Lex || 12/07/2019 11:24 Comments || Top||

#11  * rake some leaves. Had no [conscious] intention of telling you what to do with those leaves...
Posted by: Lex || 12/07/2019 11:26 Comments || Top||

#12  Man says he just got back from his favorite fishing hole and caught a lot of big fish, you can weigh how many and how large the fish are, but to ask where the fishing hole is will get a polite, "Go find your own."
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/07/2019 12:31 Comments || Top||

#13  There are some things that do not seem to change, Herb McCoy’s response to bad actions by Muslims being one of them.

Moving back to thoughtful discussion, as I first read through Dron66046’s highlighted commentary, yesterday’s events and the sudden spurt of jihadi attacks by those previously quiescent fit into his proposed pattern. In the old Cold War days they used to be call sleeper agents. And we know from recent arrests that Iran has a slew of them here in addition to the Sunni ones. G(r)omgoru’s incredulous 4 years of training???? in the Pensacola base shooting thread underlines the sleeper aspect, as does the fact that the Saudis thoroughly vetted shooter Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani as well as the six other Saudis arrested last night for involvement.

No doubt the honourable rank and file investigators at the FBI are happy to have something better to think about than the nonsense their senior officers have been getting up to in recent years.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 13:32 Comments || Top||

#14  Ironic that those senior FBI and intel folks who fulminate and scheme about nailing OrangeMan for alleged treason have been so slipshod in protecting us and our Constitution from jihadist sleepers.

Who's really betraying the country?
Posted by: Lex || 12/07/2019 13:37 Comments || Top||

#15  We're not weighing any fish. All we're doing is hearing fish stories, with no evidence of any fish or even a fishing hole.

Yaknow, when a request for sources is met with accusations of trolling, that's a pretty bad-faith reply. I thought people were supposed to be up on intel methods.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 14:11 Comments || Top||

#16  All depends on the source of the request, Herb.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB || 12/07/2019 14:16 Comments || Top||

#17  Errr, Herb?

You hinted darkly that Dron was "leaking classified information about an investigation in progress" and made a veiled threat to "[make] a report to .. the appropriate authorities."

You really need to back down here.

I'm not saying this because I did agree with your politics or your conclusions, or because I just don't like the cut of your job, but because you seem to be making veiled threats toward another member of the 'burg. Not kosher.
Posted by: Lex || 12/07/2019 14:17 Comments || Top||

#18  * disagree
* cut of your jib
Posted by: Lex || 12/07/2019 14:17 Comments || Top||

#19  "veiled threats"? The man is talking like he has inside information. This is what leaked classified info looks like, I've certainly read enough of it.

That's why I asked for sources, if it's public then great, plus the info gets reinforced and we can cross-check with other sources with a few web searches.

Are you people not accustomed to doing this? I just assumed this was standard practice.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 14:31 Comments || Top||

#20  Whew, because you sounded like you were concerned that credible secret info was being cited.

Always good to know the difference between who tells you the species, length to the millimeter, and weight to the ounce, and who is simply bragging.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/07/2019 14:37 Comments || Top||

#21  You don’t have to believe Dron66046, Mr. McCoy. Watch the world and the reports here, and draw your own conclusions based on the evidence. But I have found his descriptions and explanations of events in his own country compelling, and am therefore inclined to trust his broader claims.

It is true that ISIS has reportedly not found a welcome in Pakistan’s crowded jihadi field, and we’ve had reports here — I posted a number from the Afghan press — that in Afghanistan ISIS is being attacked by the Taliban as well as by Afghan government forces. And the other day I did ask why the sudden cluster of knife attacks in England and Europe.

It could be that the sight of Christmas markets is triggering to a certain type, but it is also possible that the sleeper agents ISIS boasted of sending in with the flood of asylum seekers following Angela Merkel’s invitation in 2015 really exist, and the various agencies are finally getting serious about doing something.

One of Rantburg’s strengths over the years has been the reports and perspective from locals in various parts of the world. Dron66046 is not unique for us, only our newest addition. But like True German Ally of blessed memory, who reported advising Angela Merkel, playing chess with Pope Benedict when he was a mere bishop, and pointing out Rantburg to Donald Rumsfeld (not to mention enjoying the hospitality of both Nazi concentration camps and Soviet gulags in his youth), he reports from deep within areas of interest to us.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/07/2019 14:39 Comments || Top||

#22  Ref #21: One of Rantburg’s strengths over the years has been the reports and perspective from locals in various parts of the world.

Israel being the exception an example.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 15:02 Comments || Top||

#23  That's why I asked for sources, if it's public then great, plus the info gets reinforced and we can cross-check with other sources with a few web searches.

What would pass for acceptable evidence? Pay slips and W-4s for the past 5 years? Strategic planning documents in Arabic? Expense account reimbursements? A Wikipedia article?

We don't always have the luxury of direct evidence. In science, we make up stories about how the world works. Then we make predictions based on those stories and go look for evidence our stories are true. Sometimes there is something we can measure directly, sometimes the evidence is indirect, sometimes we have to wait for the results as a process plays out.

Dron told us a story about the world. He also made some very definite predictions of events that will occur if this story is true:
If my info is correct, we shall be seeing an increasing number of 'inexplicable' incidents on bases, cantonments, police stations, public services etc. They will be carried out by people living among us for years, those who have earned our trust, wear our colors.

Note the phrase "increasing number". That's the tell for whether he is correct.

I realize this contradicts certain pet theories that Islamists are really nice people who just want to be left alone. But let's just wait and watch, shall we? Time will tell.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/07/2019 15:02 Comments || Top||

#24  I will share the international notification as soon as the media reveals anything. In my country the equivalent level would be 'sensitive-unclassified'.

I know our media, and they won't run with the truth as is. No, they'll try to remix the song that 'muslims have their backs to walls because of us, we need to show love', 'the umma is alienated' etc. They will not disseminate something that they believe will produce mistrust and negativity. Not out of concern but because it's not good for business.

A campaign is being prepared to warn citizens and reach out to muslim communities to be vigilant and to help in averting such things. Print and visual outreach, tear jerking fraternity and bonding over eid and the sort.

Christmas is coming and the new year, tough times.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 15:26 Comments || Top||

#25  Well then, I shall promise to be more trusting and less vigilant in the future.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 15:54 Comments || Top||

#26  ISIS plot to attack Pakistain security thwarted.

They really want in.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 16:10 Comments || Top||

#27  and notice your comments haven't (as always) been deleted or altered ya whining twat? Better everyone sees what you are about?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/07/2019 16:18 Comments || Top||

#28  Well then, I shall promise to be more trusting and less vigilant in the future.

That's amusing coming from someone who is constantly complaining about others putting words in his mouth. Exactly no one said that.

If you are going to be a whiny little bitch, you might be happier hanging out at HuffPo or such where your preferred style of 'debate' is accepted practice. Until then, permit me to summarize:

The information/proof you want is not available as open source intelligence.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/07/2019 16:31 Comments || Top||

#29  Someone disarm Herb's keyboard.
Posted by: bbrewer126 || 12/07/2019 17:03 Comments || Top||

#30  Why would my comments ever be deleted? I violate no rules.

Here's my preferred style of debate. It doesn't (typically) include insults like "whining twat". (Although I can be provoked into a precision-strike ad hominem from time to time) I learned it on Reddit and similar websites (I'm not a HuffPo leftist, duh) after getting my ass kicked dozens of times. Demand sources, cross check them, ask who wrote it and for what purpose. This pyramid is the badge I carry into battle with the SJW Left every day and it serves me well. It's distressing that so many Rantburgers react to it like wolfsbane.

Posted by: Herb McCoy || 12/07/2019 17:12 Comments || Top||

#31  *snicker* - you've used that graphic HOW many times? It doesn't take playground insults to instigate/piss people off, it takes someone like you
Posted by: Frank G || 12/07/2019 17:14 Comments || Top||

#32  Herb ~ Please see me after class.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/07/2019 17:17 Comments || Top||

#33 
"The country is under attack, Prime Minister !"

"Then call in the chiefs of staff, the interior, chief secretaries, pronto !"

"What shall be the nature of the meeting, Sir ?"

"Why, let's start from the beginning. Let's explicitly refute the central point !"

"Right, Sir."
Posted by: Dron66046 || 12/07/2019 17:19 Comments || Top||

#34  "Sounds like classified information...what are your sources?"

'the umma is alienated'

Yeah, see Blherb's other post about one big happy umma.

See, Dron is a contributor..agree, disagree, better bring more than bitter 5 grade school marm book report grading standards. You go read your classified report sites, you go do the work you want, and bring back why it is or isn't so, and then the forum, not debate club, can discuss. You know, a contributor.

As is, Herb comes across to me, at best, intellectually inconsistent. Averaged, propagandist. At worse, fishing for information.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/07/2019 17:38 Comments || Top||

#35  Oh no, the pyramid of shame!

As satisfying as watching Glass Joe fall to the mat.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/07/2019 17:43 Comments || Top||

#36  This pyramid is the badge I carry into battle with the SJW Left every day and it serves me well.

This is where you are going into the weeds. Rantburg is a news aggregator for the War on Terror. Rantburg is not a debating society. It branches off into Non-WoT, Politix and whatever Fred puts up with because everything is deeply inter-twingled, but the basis is the WoT.

The commentary consists mainly of analysis, snark and opinion. As far as I can tell, a majority of the posters are either in the business, domain experts or were there when the festivities originally jumped off. The rest are either interested in the world or enjoy playing intel-analyst.

tl:dr: the goal of the discussion here is not to own the other side, but to figure out what the hell is going on, how it will evolve, and how to respond. Your pyramid is simply not applicable to this domain.
Posted by: SteveS || 12/07/2019 17:56 Comments || Top||

#37  It's been a long time since Aris hung out here.
Posted by: Bobby || 12/07/2019 17:56 Comments || Top||

#38  Wow, making like Ace of Spades today. Me: "Dog vs. Hydrant 2, the Payback." Not complaining.

I shall share my preferred form of intercourse:
Repetitiously shagging thrashing my hobbyhorse!
As the audience snooze,
I compose their reviews:
"A ferociously rational tour de force!"

Seriously, Herb, I love your pyramid and the whole idea of a world in which fallacy infallibly falls to laserbeams of enlightenment, to be replaced by unthinkably wonderful... what? But... what SteveS said (shoot, make that my sig).
Posted by: Victor Emmanuel Whinert8537 || 12/07/2019 18:32 Comments || Top||

#39  LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 12/07/2019 18:46 Comments || Top||

#40  Iss jus' a lil' website. Ain't no gradjy-ate seminar
Posted by: Rodney King || 12/07/2019 20:01 Comments || Top||



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