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Good morning
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Happy Birthday/Daily Gam Shot

Pamela Tiffin aka Scarlett Hazeltine in "One, Two, Three" aka Miranda Sampson in "Harper" aka Louise Gearhart in "The Hallelujah Trail" aka Margy Frake in "State Fair" aka Carol Brewster in "Come Fly with Me" aka Susie Higgins in "The Pleasure Seekers" aka Marisa Di Giovanni in "Torture Me But Kill Me with Kisses" (age 68)


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/13/2011 1:05 Comments || Top||

#2  The hair. Haven't seen that hairdo in years.
Hidden picture.
Posted by: Dale || 10/13/2011 7:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Hidden picture.

Fortunately.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/13/2011 8:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Tiffin
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/13/2011 11:45 Comments || Top||

#5  A tasty afternoon snack?

Sounds about right.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 11:50 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Michael Yon: "Red Air: America's Medevac Failure:
Night combat, IEDs, and bureaucratic trouble getting choppers off the ground.
Posted by: mom || 10/13/2011 09:51 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For years..strike that, forever, there has been a shortage of choppers in Afghanistan. How aggravating. It must be fixed pronto.
Posted by: newc || 10/13/2011 10:40 Comments || Top||

#2  "Fallen Angel" is the term for a downed helo, which is a huge, huge Information Operations plus for the Taliban. Helo's are prime targets and the Taliban (with a little help from it's friends) have developed rather ingenious techniques to shoot them down. The recent loss of the SEAL bird was obviusly a major disaster and has put the leadership on edge. We're SUPPOSED to be winning and getting outta here right? As a result, most major ground operations such as this one are NOT conducted unless MEDIVAC support is dedicated, available, and on stand-by. If they were close enough to a FOB to see an Aerostat, they were very close. In this case tragically close. Aviation is needed yes, B-52's, and lots of them. Your village gets mined with IED's or non-metalic Chinese or Russian anti-pers, and you don't inform ISAF.... the village and everybody in it is destroyed. End of story. Unfortunately, this will never happen. This is a fools errand, wrong on so many, many levels. Getting out should be priority number one. If you're not ready and willing to put them all to the sword, you're going to lose. End of rant.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2011 12:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Your village gets mined with IED's or non-metalic Chinese or Russian anti-pers, and you don't inform ISAF.... the village and everybody in it is destroyed.

I don't think there's actually a need to kill everyone in the village - a Shermanesque approach would actually work better. Give everyone an hour to leave, taking everything they can carry, and then blow up their homes. These refugees are now too busy rebuilding their lives to give any assistance to the Taliban. It's harsh, but that's war for you.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2011 13:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Think you missed the point Zhang.
Besoeker's RULE: transgression=total annialation
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2011 13:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Besoeker is secretly Deadpool. True story.
Posted by: Charles || 10/13/2011 14:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Another aspect of Yon's story not told relates to "partnered patrols" ie, ISAF patrol with Afghan Army tag-alongs. Bad, bad juju. OPSEC be gone. The Taliban has an amazing network of informants both in and out of uniform.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2011 14:09 Comments || Top||

#7  Think you missed the point Zhang.
Besoeker's RULE: transgression=total annialation


My point is that this is the 21st century. The total annihilation of civilians in an area infested with insurgents wasn't permissible in Vietnam. It's definitely not permissible today. It's not a moral objection - it's a practical one. Western leaders don't allow their militaries to do these kinds of things. The Pashtun militia called the Taliban was effective precisely because it did these things to enemy villages. Our hands are tied. The Chinese would have laid siege to the village, starved everyone out and then worked them to death by deliberately giving them insufficient food and clothing in China's plentiful wastelands. We cannot.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2011 14:19 Comments || Top||

#8  From what I've read about Vietnam, early in the war it was the same deal. Red Cross marked birds were unarmed. Of course, the VC/NVA had no qualms about shooting them down. Finally somebody smartened up, took the red crosses off of them and put guns on them. From Yon's story, it appears whomever is in charge of the dust off choppers doesn't want to do that as they'll lose control of them. So guys end up dead because some brass asshole is on a power trip.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2011 16:04 Comments || Top||

#9  Zhang Fei:

Ploiesti oil fields, Dresdon, Hiroshima, Nagasaki to name af few (terrible fires, lots of death), and by the way.... the Allies won the war. Over 60 years now, no problems with Japan or Germany. "Not permissable"... ok, no problem, then YOU LOSE THE CONFLICT.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2011 16:12 Comments || Top||

#10  Are you stupid or are you simply working hard at being deliberately moronic? This is not WW2. Bomber Harris was remarkably INEFFECTIVE in his bombing of civilians - it didn't do much at all to win the war compared to the strategic bombing of factories , resources and transport. And even that didn't compare to rolling in with tanks, and ultimately, the grunts with rifles. On toip of that, those methods were the only ones available with the technology and tactics of those days. Wake the f**k up, its not 1944. Nor is it 1964. So your idiotic comparisons don't stand even a cursory look - you're dead wrong on this.

Besoeker, you talk like the "sofa soldier" who has never had to pull the trigger for real. Try instead to lead men in the field, go to war (many times at many intensity levels), have locals and civilians you are trying to liberate and stabilize - then try telling me you can order your men to pull the trigger on women and children you know to be innocent - not like in a nuclear war situation, but what you advocate as a matter of routine operations. In a word, I'm calling you out as a bullshit wannabe. Nobody that's ever been in the shit for real and for long sees it that way, unless you have become morally depraved.

There is a code of honor we swear to in the US military. I'm glad I never served with a would-be war criminal like you.

There are times my anger gets the better of me, and I will post some pretty harsh stuff here but that's mainly at a stratetgic level, since that's where some of my work was. But in the real deal, never operated that way at a tactical level, with my squad and my platoon, nor would any of the people out there now put up with that sort of operation (and I know folks from a Marine LTC to a SF A-det Captain I mentored back when they were enlisted would would agree) - its simply not who we are as American Soldiers.

Zhang Fei is correct if we want to take a clear and clean approach to "infected" villages. In the short term it would take them out of fight mode and into survival mode.

The problem is in the long term they only end up being more easily recruited by the Talib and others like them, in refugee camps over on the border, with Pakistan and Iran, and China (If you're talking Afghanistan).

"Kill them all" is simply unsustainable in the modern world - politically we would end up as a nation of pariahs, our soldiers (justifiably) branded "baby killers", and the military torn to shreds by being forced into such dishonorable behavior. Especially when we do have alternative actions and tactics that can be taken. We aren't Nazi Germany and wiping out an entire town as you would have us do - and this isnt the middle ages where Tamerlane's approach of stacking up skulls would work. The only reason to resort to such actions is if they are our ONLY recourse - then it would be done. But its not, we do have other ways of working (see Iraq for a large number of examples), and you need to get that into your head - we will not turn our troops into the equivalent of the Einsatzgruppen. There are other ways, and duty, honor and country demand that we do things the American way.

Stop posturing and pushing self destructive bullshit like an ignorant fool, like those forlorn morons who believes if they had simply killed enough of the blacks, Rhodesia would have remained white ruled.

Words fail me at this point. To put it simply for you so you'll understand:

My advice to you: Stop being such a douchebag, "visitor".
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/13/2011 22:09 Comments || Top||

#11  Lose the GC non-combat stickers on the choppers and arm them all. Arm the choppers highly and kill anyone that shoots at one. That is one answer. No need to play geneva games with this bunch.

If all ambulatory service is fired upon, it is no longer a peaceful mission to get the wounded out.It is a combat mission in all ways.

This is stupid.
Posted by: newc || 10/13/2011 22:13 Comments || Top||

#12  I understand playing by the rules - it makes US better.

Thing is, you must have an enemy that respects bravery and rules to play that way.

It is not a wipe em all out situation, it is a situation where they want only to kill. What is the use PR or otherwise of having a red cross on choppers?
Posted by: newc || 10/13/2011 22:22 Comments || Top||

#13  Ploiesti oil fields, Dresdon, Hiroshima, Nagasaki to name af few (terrible fires, lots of death), and by the way.... the Allies won the war.

Rape of Nanking, Manila, Singapore, Java, Korea, to name a few.

If one was to follow your logic, the Japanese should have won.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/13/2011 23:02 Comments || Top||

#14  Rape of Nanking, Manila, Singapore, Java, Korea, to name a few.

If one was to follow your logic, the Japanese should have won.


The reason the Japanese lost wasn't due to local guerrillas. They lost because Uncle Sam had something like 9x Japan's industrial output. Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's prime minister, stated that the territories under Japanese occupation were quiescent - they were harsh, but the harshness wasn't random. Those who fought them were killed, and those who did not were spared.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2011 23:55 Comments || Top||

#15  Most non-Western conquerors have operated on the basis that non-cooperation will result in the death of whatever leader is managing the district. What happens is that the leaders stomp the sub-leaders all the way down to the individual. This was how the Chinese empire was held together over thousands of years. It ain't pretty, but it's effective.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2011 23:59 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
British marines free hijacked Italian ship off coast of Somalia
British commandos have stormed an Italian cargo ship which was hijacked by Somalia pirates in the Indian Ocean, rescuing the crew and capturing nearly a dozen pirates.

The Marines, armed with pistols and SA-80 automatic rifles and operating from a Royal Fleet Auxiliary ship, the RFA Fort Victoria, sped towards the hijacked ship in inflatable boats as a British helicopter buzzed overhead.

They boarded the 56,000-ton bulk carrier Montecristo and disarmed the pirates without encountering any opposition.

“It was a compliant boarding — the 11 pirates surrendered without firing a shot,” said a Ministry of Defence spokesman. “They were arrested and detained on board the ship.” The ship’s 23 crew – seven Italians, six Ukrainians and 10 Indians — were released unharmed.

Four of the Italians were privately-contracted security guards, but in line with international practise they were unarmed and had been powerless to fend off the pirates.

The crew had taken refugee inside a secure, armoured area of the bridge when the ship was hijacked, from where they were able to send out distress signals. They also continued to control the vessel’s movements, steering it towards the antipiracy forces.

Posted by: lotp || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Four of the Italians were privately-contracted security guards, but in line with international practise they were unarmed and had been powerless to fend off the pirates

anyone see anything wrong with that?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2011 9:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Not if they still get paid.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/13/2011 11:31 Comments || Top||

#3  /sarc
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/13/2011 11:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Jeez, if it wasn't for the friggin pirates, that'd be a pretty good gig...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2011 16:25 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Islamists attack rival shrines in Libya
Posted by: ryuge || 10/13/2011 06:32 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...this is not the time to do that,"

How much longer should they wait? T'is what Orcs do, Crips & Bloods just one more time.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/13/2011 8:47 Comments || Top||

#2  I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said "Stop! don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?" He said, "Baptist!" I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?" He said, "Baptist church of god!" I said, "Me too! Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?" He said,"Reformed Baptist church of god!" I said, "Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off. -- Emo Phillips
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/13/2011 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  JonQC
I'm a Baptist and I'm shocked at your sacrilegious posting!
Do you mind if I copy that. My Brother-in-law the minister will love it, So will my Catholic Sister-in -law whom I accuse of being a cafeteria Catholic. I don't think my Pastor has seen it either. He once claimed he was going to change the name to the Baptist Church of Incessant Wrangling Over the Silly Stuff.
Posted by: Vortigern Hupoluse1541 || 10/13/2011 12:50 Comments || Top||

#4  "He once claimed he was going to change the name to the Baptist Church of Incessant Wrangling Over the Silly Stuff."

ROFL, VH. :-D

Unfortunately applies to some other churches too. :-(
Posted by: Barbara || 10/13/2011 13:34 Comments || Top||

#5  A possibly apocryphal story:

When the Protestant Epicopal Church in the USA engaged with China, the name had to be translated into Mandarin. When it was translated back to English, it came out more or less as

The Church of the Bickering Overseers
Posted by: lotp || 10/13/2011 13:59 Comments || Top||


Libyan NTC Fighters in Sirte Find 25 Corpses
[Tripoli Post] The corpses of 25 people wrapped in plastic sheets were found on Wednesday in the city of Sirte by government forces, who accused militias fighting for deposed leader Muammar Al Qadaffy
...a reminder that a single man with an idea can screw up an entire nation...
of execution-style killings.

A Rooters team counted 25 corpses in plastic bags in a southern area of Sirte called "Neighbourhood 2". Five corpses shown to the team had their hands tied behind their backs and had gunshot wounds to the head. They wore civilian clothes.

A commander with the National Transitional Council (NTC) said the corpses had been there for at least five days.

Meanwhile,
...back at the pie fight, Bella opened her mouth at precisely the wrong moment...
runaway leader Muammar Al Qadaffy loyalists are now holding out in just two small pockets of his home town Sirte interim government commanders said Wednesday after making gains overnight.

NTC fighters walked slowly up the same battle-scarred streets strewn with empty ammunition cases where they had fought fierce festivities a day before. Other fighters searched the partly destroyed houses as a few dazed civilians emerged from their basements.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Civilians flee Bani Walid, NTC forces gear up for battle
[Emirates 24/7] In the space of a few hours on Tuesday, a road used by Libyan families fleeing impending fighting was packed with tanks, trucks and ambulances: the NTC forces are gearing up for battle.

The final checkpoint operated by National Transitional Council fighters, some 30 kilometres (20 miles) from the pro-Qadaffy
...a proud Arab institution for 42 years...
bastion of Bani Walid, served as both a junction for those leaving the town, and for those looking to capture it.

"We are preparing for the big battle tomorrow," said Jamal Tomzini, clothed in jeans and a white T-shirt with an AK-47 slung over his shoulder, voicing his determination to take Dire Revenge™ for the NTC forces' failed assault on the town over the weekend.

"We tried to make a breakthrough on Sunday, but it was very difficult," he continued, raising his voice to avoid being drowned out by a nearby mosque's call to prayer.

On Sunday, NTC fighters paid a heavy price for their failed assault: poor coordination between brigades from the west of Libya meant they had to abandon control of Bani Walid airport, with 17 killed and more than 80 maimed in festivities with loyalists of ousted strongman Muammar Qadaffy.

Combat in Bani Walid has been put on hold since then, with the interval being used to try to unify the ranks.

But the military command says that on Wednesday, it will resume its efforts to take control of the town, 170 kilometres (105 miles) southeast of Tripoli and where they believe Seif al-Islam, Qadaffy's most prominent son, is staying.

With control of Qadaffy's coastal hometown of Sirte on the verge of transferring to NTC forces, Bani Walid looks set to be the final bastion of the deposed regime.

Fighters loyal to Libya's new administration have for a month been announcing large-scale operations against Bani Walid, but with little follow-up.

Dozens of families took advantage of the relative calm in Bani Walid on Tuesday to flee the oasis, with mattresses and suitcases piled into and on top of their cars.

"We hear that there will be fighting. In the town, there is no doctor, no water, no electricity," said a man in a white Mitsubishi that also carried four veiled women.

He said there were "more than 20,000" civilians still holed up in Bani Walid.

"There are mercenaries and militia in the streets," said the man, who was taking his family to Nasmah, west of the town, where there is a camp for those displaced by the fighting.

Behind him, a child pressed her face against the window of the car, clearly frightened by the the deafening noise of fighters training nearby, launching rockets and bursts of machinegun fire into the desert.

A few hundred metres (yards) from the checkpoint where a dozen tanks stood ready, a team of young doctors turned a number of disused buildings into a de facto field hospital, in preparation for the upcoming battle.

"We are preparing to treat the maimed to provide them emergency care before transferring them to other hospitals with better facilities in the area or in Tripoli," said Aimen Ben Salam, a medical intern, who added that this was not his first battlefield.

"We will stay until the end of the fighting, and then we will move forward with the troops," he said. "Inshallah (God willing), the final stop will be in the centre of Bani Walid."
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Meeting little resistance in Gaddafi's hometown
[Emirates 24/7] Forces of Libya's new regime were looking to move in for the kill against Moamer Qadaffy's
...who single-handedly turned a moderately prosperous kingdom into a dictator's fantasyland...
diehards in his hometown on Wednesday after meeting little resistance and taking several key objectives.

A day after seizing Sirte's police headquarters, the National Transitional Council forces were still closing in from the east and west on ever smaller pockets of pro-Qadaffy forces.

Hundreds of them, massed in dozens of pickups, fired rockets from the west of the Mediterranean city whose seizure will enable the NTC to declare the liberation of Libya and clear the way for an election timetable.

An AFP correspondent said Sirte's main square and entire waterfront was under NTC control, along with its fortress-like conference centre, university campus and main hospital, which the fighters all seized on Sunday.

"All our lines are now in place; the area is completely surrounded," said NTC commander Zubayr Bakush.

Farther to the east, a group of fighters threw petrol on a bill board of Qadaffy as others cheered and had gun sex and the cry of "holy shit! Allahu akbar" (God is greatest) blasted from a loudspeaker on a van.

"There are snipers in the buildings up there," fighter Basit Divas told AFP, pointing to a neighbourhood of pock-marked villas, before hundreds of NTC troops advanced on the area backed by a barrage of heavy weapons fire.

Within a few hours, the new regime forces had advanced another two kilometres (1.2 miles) and were only encountering small pockets of resistance, with most of the fire power going one direction only, at the Qadaffy loyalists.

NTC soldiers went house to house, clearing each one of them, and sometimes arresting prisoners.

In the kitchen of one large villa, there were half-finished cups of tea on a tray. Outside another, a man was on his knees in the courtyard, his hands tied behind his back, pleaded with his captors.

"This man had a gun, and two AK-47s. We think he may be from Qadaffy's operation room," said Ayub Basina, a man who identified himself as an NTC doctor.

The plight of stranded civilians raised the concerns of Human Rights Watch
... dedicated to bitching about human rights violations around the world...
, which called on both sides Wednesday to minimise harm to them and to ensure that prisoners are treated humanely.

"Commanders on the ground in Sirte need to make sure that their forces protect civilians and allow them to flee the combat zone," said Fred Abrahams, special adviser at HRW.

"All prisoners should be treated humanely and transferred to the NTC authorities who can better ensure their safety," he said in a statement.

The New York-based watchdog said much of Sirte's population of around 100,000 has already decamped, but that an unknown number of civilians remain in the city centre.

New regime fighters in Sirte were buoyed on Tuesday night by a two-hour visit from NTC chief Mustafa Abdel Jalil, and said he visited the one-time Qadaffy showpiece Ouagadougou conference centre.

Medics at a field hospital in western Sirte reported five killed and 42 maimed on Tuesday, while medics in the east reported 11 dead -- including six Qadaffy loyalists -- and 52 maimed.

The NTC forces had besieged Sirte from September 15 before launching on Friday what they termed a "final assault" that has seen nearly 80 of their number killed and hundreds maimed, according to medics.

NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A single organization with differing goals, equipment, language, doctrine, and organization....
warplanes, backing the NTC, overflew Sirte early on Wednesday without firing, an AFP correspondent reported, as the alliance said in its latest update that it had struck six vehicles in Bani Walid.

Outside that oasis, 170 kilometres (105 miles) southeast of Tripoli, NTC fighters are also gearing for a renewed onslaught on the town, which is another remaining bastion of forces loyal to the ousted dictator.

A withdrawal from intense fighting, in what the military called a "tactical pull back" earlier this week, enabled some civilians to flee Bani Walid on Tuesday, said an AFP news hound on the edge of town.

"We hear that there will be fighting. In the town, there is no doctor, no water, no electricity," said a man in a white Mitsubishi that also carried four veiled women, adding "more than 20,000" civilians were still in the town.

"There are mercenaries and militia in the streets," said the man.

NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen has said the alliance was close to ending its mission in Libya, but despite NTC advances in Sirte, NATO "had no knowledge of the colonel's whereabouts," adding that Qadaffy "is not a target of our operation."

NTC commanders say prisoners have said one of Qadaffy's sons, Mutassim, is in Sirte.

Another, Seif al-Islam, once seen as the former strongman's successor, is believed to be hiding in Bani Walid, possibly with his father.

Admiral Giampaolo Di Paola, head of the NATO military committee, said that while an NTC victory in Sirte "will be an iconic moment", the alliance will only end its air campaign once civilians are definitely out of harm's way and the NTC is capable of keeping the whole country safe.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Libya: Col Gaddafi's son Mutassim 'captured trying to flee Sirte'
The son of Col Muammar Gaddafi who had been leading the defence of the city of Sirte has been captured and is being held for questioning, according to officials in the country's interim government.

Three officials in the National Transitional Council (NTC) said Mutassim Gaddafi, the toppled leader's fifth son, was seized trying to flee the city on Tuesday hiding in a family car.

Mutassim, believed to be aged 34, who was national security adviser to his father, was then taken to Benghazi for questioning according to Col Abdullah Naker.

A powerful figure in the Gaddafi regime, he had been considered a rival to his brother Saif al-Islam in the competition to succeed his father.

Rebel brigades camped around the besieged city responded to the news by shooting streams of tracer fire into the night sky in celebration.

"If this news is true then definitely the fighting will be over in Sirte by tomorrow," said one fighter from Misurata's Lions of the Wadi brigade.
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Caribbean-Latin America
Chaos in Coahuila: 8 die in Saltillo and La Laguna
exclusive from Rantburg
For a map, click here. For a map of Coahuila state click here.

By Chris Covert

A three hour gunfight between armed suspects and Saltillo municipal, Coahuila state and Mexican federal police agents Wednesday morning netted one dead and four wounded.

Meanwhile in the La Laguna region of Coahuila, seven individuals were found murdered in several incidents, according to Mexican news accounts.

Reports are the firefight between armed suspects and Mexican security forces began around 0715 hrs in Jardines Coloniales colony north of Saltillo.

A second gunfight took place near the intersection of bulevars Colosio and Venustiano Carranza. Bulevar Venustiano Carranza is a major artery in Saltillo.

The last confrontation took place near the intersection of Bulevar Valdez Sanchez and Carretera Los Gonzalez.

The toll in the shootings was one civilian dead, three police agents wounded and an unidentified woman who was wounded by gunfire in her arm.

The Mexican weekly Proceso reported gunfights taking place in Mirasierra municipality east of Saltillo.

The ongoing firefights forced Saltillo city officials to plead with residents not to go out either from work or home.

Saltillo is the capital of Coahuila state.

Meanwhile in the La Laguna region of Coahuila:
  • Four individuals, two couples, were found hanging from a bridge near the intersection of Bulevar Revolucion and Calzada Cuauhtemoc in Torreon, Coahuila. Reports do not detail how the victims died. One of the victims had a La Santa Muerte tattoo on his chest.

  • Two severed heads were found inside a compact car near the intersection of Avenida Morelos and Calle Degollado near the Zaragoza shopping center in Torreon, Coahuila. Both victims had tattoos on their person.

  • In Gomez Palacio, Durango, a used car dealer was shot to death at his residence in Fidel Velazquez colpony.

The La Laguna region includes the twin cities of Torreon, Coahuila and Gomez Palacio, Durango. The area also includes Ciudad Lerdo, Durango. It sits astride the main east-west road artery in northern Mexico.
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More Mexican Mayhem
22 Die in Northern Mexico

A total of 22 individuals were murdered in ongoing drug and gang related violence in northern Mexican states, including three Chihuahua state police agents shot to death in their car in Juarez, Chihuahua.

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  • Five unidentified individuals were shot to death in Chihuahua, Chihuahua Wednesday morning. The shooting took place at residence near the intersection of calles J. Eligio Muñoz and 37th.

  • Three unidentified individuals were shot to death in Juarez Wednesday. The attack took place as armed suspects dismounted from a Dodge Intrepid and a PT Cruiser, entered a residence near the intersection of calles Lirios and Argon in the Altavista and started shooting. One victim was a female, found dead outside, while the other two were men found shot inside the residence.

  • Three Chihuahua state police agents were shot to death in Juarez Wednesday. Reports say the trio were part of an anti-extortion squad. The police were aboard a Volkswagen Jetta near the intersection of calles Monte Rocalloso and Toluca in Lomas de San José colony, when they were attacked.

  • An unidentified man in his 20s was shot to death in Juarez Wednesday. The victim was pursued by several masked armed suspects who were travelling aboard a Chevrolet Blazer when he was shot. The victim was shot near the intersection of calles Yugoslavia and Guadiana in Aztecas colony.

  • A municipal police officer was shot to death Wednesday in Juarez. The victim was about to enter the Super Gonzalez grocery store near the intersection of Zaragoza and Aztecs when armed suspects shot him.

  • An unidentified business owner and his son were shot to death in Juarez. The victims were in their communications business store near the intersection of Plutarch and Vicente Guerrero when they were shot.

  • An unidentified man in his 20s was found shot to death in Juarez Wednesday morning. The victim was found near the intersection of calles Soneto 154 and Irma Ferriz de Reyes.

  • One man was shot to death and another was wounded at a residence in Pueblo Yaqui, Sonora Sunday. Jesus Omar Gaxiola Valdez, 32, of Joaquin Amaro, Sonora, was shot several times in the back, while the other victim, Jose Gonzalez Cruz, 27, was shot in the left leg. The shooting took place near the intersection of calles Galeana and5 de Mayo in Tobarito colonywhen they were attacked. AK-47 assault rifles were used in the attack.

  • A man was shot to death in Nogales, Sonora Monday. Fernando Ulises Martinez, 29, was shot on Avenida Plutarco Elias by a lone armed suspect. The victim later died while receiving medical care.

  • One man was shot to death and another was wounded ina shooting in Ciudad Obgreon, Sonora Tuesday. The victims were aboard a Nissan Tsuru near the intersection of calles Trapense and Laguna in Las Haciendas colony when armed suspects carrying AR-15 assault rifles dismounted from a van and fired on the victims. Victor Sandoval Hernandez AKA The Victrola died at the scene, while Alberto Sepulveda AKA El Venado was taken to get medical treatment. Sandoval Hernandez's wife and four yeear old daughter were in the same vehicle as the victims when the shooting took place but were unharmed.

  • An man in his 20s was shot to death in Tijuana, Baja California. Juan Manuel Rivera AKA Goofy was on calle Najera in Modulos Cuatro colony in Centenario delegation when he was shot. Manuel Rivera apparently attempted to seek refuge in a residence before he was shot.

  • An unidentified woman was shot to death at her residence in Mexicali, Baja California Wednesday morning. The victim was just about to leave her home near the intersection of calles Antonio de Mendoza and Macristy de Hermosillo in the Vista Hermosa colony when she was shot.

  • An unidentified man in his 20 was found shot to death at his residence in Apodaca, Nuevo Leon Tuesday. The victim was found on calle Fortuna in the Los Treboles coony. The victim was a tattoo artist.
Posted by: badanov || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
Haqqani big shot confirmed killed in Pakistan
And our winner is...
A top leader in the Haqqani network who played a central role in attacking coalition forces was killed Thursday in Pakistan, U.S. officials said.

Janbaz Zadran was killed in the Haqqani stronghold of Miram Shah in North Waziristan, Pakistan. The area reportedly was targeted in a drone strike the same day he died.
Golly gee, we found him when the mighty Pak army couldn't. Or wouldn't...
U.S. officials say Zadran's death makes him the most senior Haqqani leader in Pakistan to be taken off the battlefield. The officials said Zadran helped the Haqqani network orchestrate attacks on troops in Kabul and southeastern Afghanistan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2011 18:05 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's plenty to not like about President Obama, but on the WoT issues, he's doing much better than I expected, and in many cases (like this) he's actually doing well.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/13/2011 18:52 Comments || Top||

#2  ...and in many cases (like this) he's actually doing well.

Probably never read the daily briefings as they were too boring and stuff.

Otherwise this might not have happened.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/13/2011 19:34 Comments || Top||


Karachi police arrests four button men
[Dawn] The city police on Wednesday claimed to have placed in durance vile four suspected hit mans involved in murdering 73 people, DawnNews reported.

Clifton Police have taken into custody two suspects named Faisal Ansari and Daniyal after an exchange of fire in the area of Zamzama. Police also recovered two Kalashnikovs and two pistols from the suspects.

The police claimed that during investigation the two political workers had confessed to the killing of 34 people.

Meanwhile,
...back at the hoedown, Bob finally got to dance with Sally...
Anti-Terrorism Cell of the Crime Investigation Department (CID) conducted a raid near Pirabad Graveyard of the Orangi Town and placed in durance vile two more workers Abeed alias Barasti and Tariq Mustafa alias Burger affiliated with a political party and recovered one Kalashnikov and two 9MM pistols from their possession.

SSP Chaudhry Aslam of the CID claimed that the two were involved in 39 cases of murders.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq
25 killed in series of blasts in Iraq
[Times of India] A slew of bombings targeted Iraqi police in Storied Baghdad
...located along the Tigris River, founded in the 8th century, home of the Abbasid Caliphate...
on Wednesday morning, including blasts by two jacket wallahs who tried to ram their vehicles through cop shoppe gates. Iraqi officials said 25 people died and dozens more were maimed.

The blasts were aimed at the police, considered the weakest section of Iraq's security forces, and emphasized that despite security gains, long-term stability in the country is still elusive.

US forces are scheduled to leave by the end of 2011. The attack is likely to add to concerns about the ability of Iraqi security forces to effectively secure the city.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State of Iraq


Science & Technology
DHS registration today, we know who you are. Biscuits and juice following screening.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2011 13:57 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Golly gee willackers. They figure that if they integrate profiling into a big enough bloatware package, they can get away with it. It's a simple enough algorithm. Criteria:

1) Are they Muslim? Are they black?
2) Are they already in the system as a radical, criminal, suspect, or other known problem? Related to any?
3) Do they come from a nation or region of interest?
4) Credit card purchases, Internet, money transfers?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/13/2011 14:30 Comments || Top||

#2  A simpler term for this is 'profiling'.

When a conservative administration does profiling, it's bad.

When a Democratic administration does profiling, it's cool.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/13/2011 16:41 Comments || Top||

#3  What no more $16 muffins?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/13/2011 17:20 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Three gunned down in southern Thailand
A local leader, his driver and a passing teenager were killed by gunmen in broad daylight in Pattani province on Thursday.

The killers attacked shortly before noon when a pick-up truck carrying Hami Umar, 43, stopped at an intersection near Ban Ping in tambon Lubo Yirai. Four men on the back of a pick-up truck that had followed Hami from his office opened fire on them with M16 and AK47 rifles, killing Hami and his driver Rose Jehlong, 47, on the spot. Hami was deputy president of Lubo Yirai tambon administration organisation.

Saifu Panarin, 16, who was driving past on a motorcycle at the time was hit by several AK47 shots and died immediately.

The attack occurred before many horrified onlookers. Police were investigating to establish whether it was a political murder or a terrorist attack.
Posted by: ryuge || 10/13/2011 06:07 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Some analysts skeptical of alleged Iranian plot
Maybe they should send Joe Whatsisname Wilson to Nogales to investigate.
Posted by: || 10/13/2011 13:48 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


Syrian 'Agent' Charged with Spying on Protesters in U.S., Embassy Denies
[An Nahar] A Syrian-born U.S. citizen has been charged with spying on anti-Assad protesters and providing recordings to the regime's intelligence agents in a bid to silence the opposition, U.S. officials said Wednesday, but the Syrian embassy in Washington denied such allegations.

A federal grand jury charged Mohamad Anas Haitham Soueid, 47, on October 5 in a six-count indictment for his efforts against activists in the United States and Syria opposed to Syrian President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad's
Despoiler of Latakia...
regime. He was set to sit in solemn silence in a dull, dark dock, in a pestilential prison with a life-long lock Tuesday.

The Leesburg, Virginia man was charged with conspiracy and acting as a Syrian government agent in the United States without notifying the US attorney general as required by law. He was also charged on two counts of providing false statements on a firearms purchase form and two counts of providing false statements to federal law enforcement.

The naturalized American, also known as "Alex Soueid" and "Anas Alswaid," was due to make an initial appearance before U.S. Magistrate Judge Theresa Buchanan at 2:00 pm (1800 GMT) in Alexandria, Virginia.

The charges came amid escalating tensions between Damascus
...The City of Jasmin is the oldest continuously-inhabited city in the world. It has not always been inhabited by the same set of fascisti...
and Washington over the Syrian government's months-long crackdown on opposition protests seeking to oust Assad.

In July, top State Department officials summoned Syrian Ambassador Imad Mustapha to discuss reports that embassy staff had filmed "peaceful" U.S. protests against the Syrian regime.

As part of his conspiracy, Soueid and others intended to "undermine, silence, intimidate and potentially harm persons in the United States and Syria who protested against the government of Syria and President al-Assad, all at the direction and control of the government of Syria and Syrian officials," the indictment said.

Soueid was said to have ordered individuals to make audio and video recordings of anti-regime protests in both countries and of conversations with activists that he would then pass on to the Syrian mukhabarat, or intelligence agents, and other government officials.

From about April 2 to June 10, Soueid emailed a Syrian intelligence agent about 20 audio and video recordings taped in the United States, according to the indictment. He discussed individual protesters using assigned "product codes" and also provided their contact information.

"We're in his ring now, (very) important details I have for you," Soueid wrote in an April 6 email to a Syrian embassy official that included a link to a website for protesters in the United States.

During a late June-early July trip to Syria paid for by the government, Soueid was said to have met with Assad and spoken with him in private.

But when questioned by FBI agents around August 3, Soueid denied he had ever recorded or collected information on people in the United States and or shared any such data with Syrian government officials.

Soueid is also accused of lying on his application to purchase a 9mm pistol. If convicted, he faces up to 15 years in prison on the spying charges, 15 years for the firearms charge and 10 years for making false statements to federal Sherlocks.

Reacting to the news of Soueid's arrest, the embassy said in a statement: "Neither Mr. Soueid nor any other citizen of the US is an agent of the Syrian government."

A federal grand jury charged Soueid on October 5 in a six-count indictment for spying on Syrian opposition activists in the United States and Syria and providing recordings to the regime's intelligence agents.

The Leesburg, Virginia, man was charged with conspiracy and acting as a Syrian government agent in the United States without notifying the US attorney general as required by law.

But the Syrian embassy in Washington said the allegation that a US citizen was working with Damascus "to intimidate US citizens is absolutely baseless and totally unacceptable."

"Contrary to the statement of the Department of Justice, Mr. Soueid is not an agent of any Syrian institution; he never worked under directions or control of any Syrian official," it added.

It also denied that the Syrian government had paid travel expenses or any kinds of funds to Soueid, and rejected the notion that he had met privately with Assad.

Soueid "has never provided any individual at the Syrian embassy in the US with any information regarding US protesters or otherwise. This is a flagrant effort to defame the embassy of Syria based on sheer lies and fabrications," the statement said.

The embassy also challenged the Justice Department to provide evidence to back up the allegations, which it called "a campaign of distortion and fabrications."

Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  Hmmm...this one, the Saudi attempt, others...I'm getting a scent of Petraeus.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2011 14:10 Comments || Top||

#2  So quickly, Skidmark?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2011 15:26 Comments || Top||


Syrian Troops Enter Wadi Anjar, Set up Base on Lebanese Soil
[An Nahar] A Syrian army unit entered Leb on Wednesday and headed towards the Wadi Anjar region in the Bekaa where it set up base past the sand barrier which the Lebanese army had set up years ago to mark the borders, reported Voice of Leb radio.

The coordination and cooperation office between the two armies began their contacts to tackle the matter, with the army command demanding that the Syrian troops withdraw from Leb.

VDL also reported that Internal Security Forces Intelligence Bureau Bekaa branch managed to arrest two individuals, a Lebanese and a Syrian, accusing them of purchasing light and medium arms and smuggling them to Syria.

The Syrian national confessed that he came to the Bekaa to purchase weapons from Lebanese arms dealers, adding that he was seeking to buy RPGs and machineguns to transport them to Syria.

Investigations are underway with them.

Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria


U.S. Sanctions Iran Airline for Quds Force, Hizbullah Transport
[An Nahar] U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
... sometimes described as the Smartest Woman in the World and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another John C. Calhoun ...
on Wednesday denounced an alleged Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador on American soil as a 'dangerous escalation' by Tehran, and called for International condemnation.

The U.S. Treasury Department hit Iran's Mahan Air with sanctions, saying it secretly transported members of a military force accused of plotting to kill the Saudi ambassador on U.S. soil.

As the United States began individual consultations with UN Security Council ambassadors -- a possible precursor to international condemnation or some other action -- Clinton reiterated that Iran must be "held accountable."

The plot is "a flagrant violation of international and U.S. law and a dangerous escalation of the Iranian government's long-standing use of political violence and sponsorship of terrorism," Clinton said.

"We call upon other nations to join us in condemning this threat to international peace and security," the top U.S. diplomat told journalists at a think-tank in Washington. "Iran must be held accountable for its actions."

Clinton said the plot was "directed by elements of the Iranian government," and said this "kind of reckless act undermines international norms and the international system."

The "U.S. has increased our sanctions on individuals within the Iranian government who are associated with this plot and Iran's support for terrorism," she said.

The Treasury Department said commercial carrier Mahan Air transported members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corp-Quds Force -- a force directly linked to the plot -- and Hizbullah across the Middle East.

Any of the airline's assets in the United States will now be frozen and U.S. citizens will be barred from doing business with the firm.

The announcement came a day after Washington leveled the accusations at Tehran and the Treasury Department moved to block the assets of five individuals directly linked to the alleged liquidation plot, which has sent diplomatic shockwaves around the world.

The Treasury Department accused Mahan Air of ferrying Iranian operatives between Iran and Syria for military training and Revolutionary Guards officers in and out of Iraq, and of transporting members of Leb-based the Hezbullies -- which the U.S. deems a terrorist organization.

"Mahan Air's close coordination with the IRGC-QF -- secretly ferrying operatives, weapons and funds on its flights -- reveals yet another facet of the IRGC's extensive infiltration of Iran's commercial sector to facilitate its support for terrorism," said the Treasury's sanctions czar David Cohen.

"Following the revelation about the IRGC-QF's use of the international financial system to fund its murder-for-hire plot, today's action highlights further the undeniable risks of doing business with Iran.

Iran warned the United States to shy away from any confrontation over what Tehran called baseless allegations that it plotted to kill the Saudi ambassador to Washington.

The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday named two Iranian suspects as Manssor Arbabsiar, 56, a naturalized U.S. citizen, and Gholam Shakuri, said to be an Iran-based member of the Quds Force, a unit of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Shakuri remains on the lam while Arbabsiar was placed in durance vile on September 29 at New York's John F Kennedy International Airport and appeared in court Tuesday in Manhattan. His lawyer said he would plead not guilty, if charged.

U.S. officials say the case was broken open by a paid U.S. source posing as a member of a Mexico-based narco mob, which the defendants believed would provide explosives for the attack on the ambassador.

Mexico said it cooperated closely with the U.S. investigation, and said Arbabsiar was denied entry and put on a flight to New York, where he was placed in durance vile by U.S. authorities.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Preliminaries, although IMO any potens US-Iran war is unlikely to occur until next summer 2012 at the earliest.

Iran is repor filing a complaint agz the US on these plot allegations before the UNO.

* WORLD NEWS > US MUST TREAT PLOT AS IRAN'S ACT OF WAR.

Pragmatically, I can think of much worse plots that Iran is well-capable of mustering.

Technically, yes, 'tis an act of war, but far from being Iran's worst.

* SAME > SENATORS DEMAND ECONOMIC WAR ON IRAN AFTER MURDER PLOT, URGING OBAMA TO CRUSH ITS CENTRAL BANK.

Again, Summer 2012 at the earliest, iff at all vee US avoidance of recession or depression unless someone does something really stupid.

versus

* SAME > DEAR AMERICA, IRAN IS NOT YOUR COUNTRY'S GRAVEST THREAT.

Directly, Strategically, andor Ideologically - youse name it, Iran isn't.

In any case, MIL HISTORY > THE BULK OF IRAN = ANCIENT PERSIA'S WARS ARE FOUGHT IN OR AROUND IRAN/PERSIA + NEARBY REGIONS.

IOW, covert Individual andor Small-Group/Cell Terrops aside, Iran's large regular Army + prob IRGC is unlikely to be seen charging en masse' over the hills + dales + mountains, etc. of CONUS or ALCAN - Histoire' says its the US = US-Allied/Coalition that will likely have to fight Iran in Iran's backyard, domestically or regionally.

AND IRAN KNOWS IT.

Again, iff pro-Islamist MOvements succeed in legally electorally taking over the Muslim ME + North Africa, A NUKE-ARMED, SHIA-CENTRIC HEGEMONIC = CALIPHATE-HAPPY ISLAMIST IRAN WILL ONLY BE ONE OF MANY HEADACHES FOR THE US-WEST.

E.g. WORLD NEWS > ZAWAHIRI URGES ISLAMIC RULE IN LIBYA, arguing for Libyans to do everything possible to protect their revolution + gains from the US-West.

* SAME > AL-QAEDA CHIEF CALLS FOR ALGERIAN REVOLUTION.

AYMAN HAS REPOR ALSO CALLED ON ALL MUSLIMS, JIHADIST OR NOT, TO KEEP UP THE PRESSURE ON THE US.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/13/2011 1:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Good, I guess. Ahmadinejad will have to fly Delta the next time he speaks at the U.N.
Posted by: American Delight || 10/13/2011 9:46 Comments || Top||

#3  will have to fly Delta the next time

At least he's short enough to fit in their seats.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/13/2011 11:57 Comments || Top||


Qatari Emir Hails Syrian Opposition Council
[An Nahar] Qatari emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani has hailed as an "important step" the creation of a Syrian opposition front, urging President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad
Despoiler of Latakia...
to talk to them after months of deadly protests.

"The (formation of the) Syrian National Council marks an important step" said the ruler of the energy-rich Gulf state in remarks aired on Wednesday by the Doha-based Al-Jazeera news channel.

"It is in the interest of Syria that the government sits with and reaches an agreement with this council over the nature of a new constitution that would preserve the balance of the Syrian nation," he said.

The United Nations
...the Oyster Bay money pit...
says a relentless campaign to clamp down on anti-regime protests has resulted in more than 2,900 death since March.

"I think that the council enjoys legitimacy among the protesters in Syria," added the emir, who had said in September that the months-long protests would not weaken despite the crackdown.

Syrian dissidents established the "national council" in Turkey on August 23 to coordinate their campaign to topple Assad and last week formally formed a common front uniting all groups that oppose his regime.

On Monday the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
welcomed its formation and urged the world to do the same, as it readied new sanctions against Assad's regime.

Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria



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Thu 2011-10-13
  Haqqani big shot confirmed killed in Pakistan
Wed 2011-10-12
  Underwear bomber pleads guilty to all counts
Tue 2011-10-11
  Breaking: Feds Thwart Iran-Tied Terror Plot Against Saudi, Israeli Targets in D.C.
Mon 2011-10-10
  Syria warns countries not to recognize opposition
Sun 2011-10-09
  Yemen president says ready to quit within days
Sat 2011-10-08
  Mexican security forces find 46 dead in Veracruz
Fri 2011-10-07
  Doctor Who Helped U.S. Find Osama Bin Laden May Hang
Thu 2011-10-06
  Shelling Resumes in Sana'a
Wed 2011-10-05
  Afghanistan foils plot to kill Karzai
Tue 2011-10-04
  Bomb kills at least 65 in Mogadishu
Mon 2011-10-03
  Syrian Opposition Forms United Common Front
Sun 2011-10-02
  Syrian troops battle hundreds of renegade soldiers
Sat 2011-10-01
  Underwear-bomb maker also believed dead in Yemen strike
Fri 2011-09-30
  Anwar al-Awlaki killed in Yemen
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  US ambassador Robert Ford pelted with tomatoes by Syrian brownshirts


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