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IDF Re-Engages Lebanon, Reserves Called Up
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Afghanistan
'Suicide bomber' in Afghan attack
A suicide bomber has driven a taxi into a convoy of US-led troops in Afghanistan, killing himself and a child, officials say. Officials say that the attack happened in the Yaqubay district of Khost province, and that two US soldiers and three other children were injured. Officials blamed the attack on al-Qaeda and Taleban militants, who have mounted a series of attacks throughout 2006.

Officials say that Wednesday's attack took place while the US convoy was parked near a government building in the eastern province of Khost. "The suicide attacker was blown to pieces and a 12-year-old was killed on his way to school," the administrative chief of Yaqubay district, Mirza Jon Nimgari told the Reuters news agency.

Correspondents say that until recently suicide bombings in Afghanistan were rare. Wednesday's attack brings the number of suicide attacks in Afghanistan this year to nearly 30, more than the total for all of 2005 and dwarfing the figure for 2004.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 09:14 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More like dumbfart attack! Steve, post up the Dumbfart grave-site pic!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 07/12/2006 10:03 Comments || Top||

#2  He took a little kid with him. He ain't good enough to rate dumbfart.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 14:46 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Somali Government To Ally With Warlords Against Islamists
Mogadishu, 12 July (AKI) - The Somali provisional government and some of the so-called 'warlords' will soon form a military alliance against the Islamist militias which control the Somali capital, Mogadishu, and almost all towns, Somali sources told Adnkronos International (AKI) on Wednesday, speaking on condition of anonymity. The sources explained that the new alliance's chief objective will be to gain control of the military airport of Baledogle, west of Mogadishu - Somalia's only functional airport - and then to take the city of Jowhar, some 90 kilometres north of the capital.

According to the sources, the former warlord of Jowahr, Mohammed Deere, will be the main tribal leader taking part to the alliance with the provisional government. Three more warlords - Mohammed Qaniare Afrah, Bashir Rageh and Muse Sudi Yalahow - will be involved in the deal. Deere was welcomed by a minister on Tuesday in Baidoa, the southern provincial town of Baidoa, 200 kilometres from Mogadishu, where the provisional government is based. His whereabouts had been unknown for several weeks.

Deere had lost control of Jowahr to the Union of the Islamic Courts (UIC) on 13 June. In contrast to what happened in the capital, in Jowhar, the Islamist group kept its troops outside the city-boundaries and achieved control over the city through negotiations with the chiefs of the local tribes. Jowahr had hosted the headquarters of the provisional government and of the parliament together with Baidoa from 2004 until February this year. In early 2006, to solve a long-running dispute over the location of the parliament's headquarters which had stalled the peace process for years, it was decided the body would meet only in Baidoa, which greatly disappointed Deere.

Nowadays, Deere and the provisional government appear to be convinced that the only way to prevent the UIC from becoming the only rulers of Somalia is to join forces and fight together.
"Then, we'll fight over what's left. It's da Somali way!""
Winning control of the airport of Baledogle would be crucial from a strategic point of view, the sources said. The only airport that still operational in Somalia, it has an annual turnover of over 10 million dollars.

On Tuesday, some 500 Somali fighters loyal to the last member of an alliance of warlords in Mogadishu, Abi Hassan Awale Qeydiid, surrendered. The final two-day battle between the Islamists and the warlords in Moghadishu killed almost 100 and injured some 200. The UIC control now nearly 95 percent of Somalia's towns.

The UN Security Council is considering a proposal by the British government to lift the arms embargo on Somalia, and allow an African peacekeeping force into the country.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 15:21 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  From the Dept. of Too Little, Too Late.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 16:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Yes, the provisional government has been soooooooo effective over there.
This'll give the Muzzies a shot at rolling them all up in one push.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/12/2006 16:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Somalia has a government? Who knew?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/12/2006 18:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Anyone want to guess how many of the 'soldiers' who surrendered to the UIC were tortured and then executed?

I'm guessing 50% were tortured and about the same number executed.
Posted by: mhw || 07/12/2006 18:26 Comments || Top||

#5  All things considered, it is probably better for us if the Islamofascists regroup in Somalia than Afghanistan - shorter flights from the aircraft carriers, and don't need mid-air refueling.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/12/2006 19:18 Comments || Top||


At least 140 killed in Mogadishu battle
Headlines like this are common in Mog these days ...
MOGADISHU - At least 140 people were killed in two days of fighting in the Somali capital, which ended after one of the city’s last holdout warlords surrendered to Islamist militias, a hospital official said on Tuesday. “Approximately 140 people have died and 150 were injured. It was a very heavy exchange with most of the people dying outside hospital,” Ali Moallim, a senior administrator at Mogadishu’s Madina hospital, told Reuters.

Moallim said casualties from the two days of fighting, which started on Sunday and ended late on Monday when militia loyal to warlord Abdi Awale Qaybdiid began surrendering, would probably rise as many had not yet been taken to hospital.

The fighting pitted Islamist militias who control most of Mogadishu against gunmen backing Qaybdiid, a member of a routed alliance of quasi U.S.-backed warlords, and those of Hussein Aideed, a warlord and deputy prime minister in the interim government.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I believe militant Islam is fighting every religion on the planet at this moment. They seem to be hurting everywhere except Somalia. I don't want to save Aideed's ass, but Somalia has strategic value.
Posted by: Cobra || 07/12/2006 0:48 Comments || Top||

#2  casualities ... when ... militia loyal to warlord Abdi Awale Qaybdiid began surrendering, would probably rise as many had not yet been taken to hospital

Many of those surrendering had not yet been taken to the hospital? Don't they just usually impose sharia law and wack their necks?
Posted by: Bobby || 07/12/2006 6:31 Comments || Top||

#3  This is the same crap that happened in Afghanistan after the Russians left. This is going to get ugly for us in a few years.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/12/2006 7:38 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't mean to sound ignorant but what is the strategic value of Somalia? What happens if this place goes over even more to the side of darkness (Islamic fundamentalist stronghold? Does this mean this place becomes another Taliban type Afghanistan where the Islamicfacists train and turn out more terrorists? If that is the case, I would agree it has strategic value.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/12/2006 8:18 Comments || Top||

#5 

See for yourself.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 07/12/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't worry - if you've ever seen Somalis getting on a bus you'll kniow that this is a fight to the last man.
Posted by: Londoner || 07/12/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Somailia's north border is a choke point for trading and oil. It also is also a gateway to Africa from Yemen and Saudi. It's a great safe haven and it's very close to Saudi financing.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 07/12/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||

#8  LOL Sorry for that bad grammer, I'm eating
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 07/12/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Unfortunately, This choke point is a critical one. Plus, in addition to Sudan, it represents another significant country for AQ training.

The issue is not only when to remove the garbage, but what to leave behind.
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 10:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Thought all the fighting in Mog was supposed to be over last week. Another flare up?
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#11  The issue is not only when to remove the garbage, but what to leave behind.

I'd like to say "slightly radioactive glass."
Posted by: Jackal || 07/12/2006 11:06 Comments || Top||

#12  The strategic parts are in the relatively sane and autonomous north (Somaliland and Puntland). They are going to declare independence and leave the south to abort itself.
Posted by: ed || 07/12/2006 11:09 Comments || Top||

#13  It's not whether or not Somalia has strategic value in itself, but that we don't want Al Qaeda to have a safe haven where it can train new cadres to replace those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, and those arrested in Europe. Afghanistan, too, appeared unimportant until the 9/11 attacks were launched from there.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 12:29 Comments || Top||

#14  well you see a terrorost camp goin up then blow it up
Posted by: Greamp Elmavinter1163 || 07/12/2006 13:38 Comments || Top||

#15  Somalia sits right on top of major shipping lanes through the Red Sea and along the coast of Africa. We've already seen problems with Somali-based pirates. It will be very difficult to distinguish between some warlord's entourage and a terrorist training camp. This is DEFINITELY not good.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/12/2006 13:58 Comments || Top||

#16  The US Navy is on pirate patrol off Somalia, according to one of the mothers trailing daughter #2 carpools to summer school with -- her daughter's boyfriend is over there now.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#17  I do not see nation builing there. I see periodic hammering of Al Q assets in Somalia. Saudi money is behind this. We are right back to following the money issue and taking out the financiers. Everything else is treating the symptoms of the disease. We will not win this war until we deal with the key issue: FINANCING.

This goes for Saudi Arabia and this goes for Iran. People like Kimmie and Pencil Neck are clients of terrorist money. They will fall when the kingpins fall.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/12/2006 16:20 Comments || Top||

#18  Take your pick: Saudi and Iranian money, Iranian, Pakistani, Yemeni, Egyptian, Soudanese advisors and volunteers, Chinese suppliers and technical support.

A regular team-building effort.
Posted by: Fordesque || 07/12/2006 20:54 Comments || Top||

#19  Use UAV's and Hellfires from Djibouti - what? Worried the Somali air force will take them out? The Islamists will ban kites...nothing to worry about
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 21:20 Comments || Top||

#20  Map of Somaliland; Map of Puntland.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/12/2006 23:18 Comments || Top||


Last Somali warlord surrenders to Islamists
Islamists now in full control of the Somali capital vowed Tuesday to "destroy" all resistance to their religious rule as the city's last secular warlord fled after surrendering in fierce battles. Islamic militia scoured southern Mogadishu for weapons still outside their hands following the defeat late Monday of warlord Abdi Hassan Awale Qeydiid in bloody clashes that killed at least 77 since the weekend.

"I am urging all armed militiamen who are not working with the Islamic courts to surrender their weapons immediately," said Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, executive chief of the Supreme Islamic Council of Somalia (SICS). "You cannot have weapons and act against the Islamic courts," Ahmed said. "Any group that tries to fight the Islamic courts will be destroyed. The Islamic courts have overcome the infidel stooges."
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  S'pose ya gotta be a bit sentimental bout this last warlord with turban in hand......nay
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Where is the USS Iwo Jima these days?
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/12/2006 0:32 Comments || Top||

#3  I don't see why we cant just sell these failed states off at auction. Just like the local governments do when nations become failed states just have a open auction for either all or pieces of the territory.

Highest bidder takes it.

I would bet Ethiopia would pay a sweet penny for the chance to have a port again.


Posted by: C-Low || 07/12/2006 0:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh! Here she is.
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/12/2006 3:36 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Pelosi and Hoyer Statement on Seizure of Israeli Soldiers
WASHINGTON, July 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer released the following statement today condemning Hezbollah for seizing two Israeli soldiers:

"The House Democratic leadership strongly condemns the seizure of Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah terrorists operating from Lebanon. This action, following so closely the seizure of an Israeli soldier by Hamas terrorists operating from Gaza, further dims the prospects for peace in the Middle East. Countries with influence over Hezbollah, particularly Syria and Iran, must move quickly to bring about the return of the soldiers and the end of rocket attacks on Israeli civilians from Hezbollah positions in Lebanon. The Palestinian Authority, and countries with influence over Hamas, must take similar action in Gaza.

"Those who finance, direct, or otherwise support acts like these need to understand that they have produced an extremely dangerous situation and that they are responsible for the consequences. Israel has an inherent right to defend itself, and the United States supports our ally. The sooner the soldiers are returned and those who seized them brought under control, the better for everyone concerned about the future of the Middle East."

OK, who are you and what have you done with our Nancy?
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 17:50 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Woah! Either it is a sign of the End Times or there is a Nancy-shaped pod lying in a basement somewhere in Washington.
Posted by: SteveS || 07/12/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#2  And no linkage to other issues. Both hostage takings could only be achieved through government financing. That is: Iran.

We have an interventionist, pro-Israel (to a point) President who doesn't have to play to another electorate. At the last election, Bush said that he won "political capital" and was going to spend it. Yes, now stop shopping.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/12/2006 18:24 Comments || Top||

#3  not so surprizing

both Pelosi and Hoyer have long records of supporting Israel's financial aid requests

also both have long supported 'moderate muslims' in the near east and Hamas and Hizb Allah have made the two look foolish.
Posted by: mhw || 07/12/2006 18:28 Comments || Top||

#4  The Dems don't mind talking its the backing it up part they can't handle.

" they are responsible for the consequences."

like what UN babble. Restrained responce.
Posted by: C-Low || 07/12/2006 18:30 Comments || Top||

#5  My money is on the Nancy-shaped pod.
Posted by: N guard || 07/12/2006 18:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Oh my gaaawd!
I about fell of my chair when I read that!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/12/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||

#7  There's an election coming up too. Want to keep the donors happy. Same as the '02 election. I wonder if Ahmedinjihad is on Rove's payroll.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 18:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Can't help but remember Rove's speech in New Hampshire, speaking of the Democrats and war, "They may be with you for the first shots," Rove said of such opponents. "But they're not going . . . to be with you for the tough battles."
Posted by: Sherry || 07/12/2006 19:10 Comments || Top||

#9  talk=cheap

Posted by: Mark E. || 07/12/2006 19:57 Comments || Top||

#10  The Surprise Meter just pegged and broke the glass.
Are you SURE that was San Fran Nan?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/12/2006 20:08 Comments || Top||

#11  Also: yay Steny!
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 20:15 Comments || Top||

#12  does not compute.
Posted by: 2b || 07/12/2006 21:01 Comments || Top||

#13  As soon as the bullets start flying, they will be screaming "Cut and RUN!!!"

Always have, always will...
Posted by: Chulet Thruling5126 || 07/12/2006 21:06 Comments || Top||

#14  They know the most of the people in the US support Israel's right to exist. Talk is cheap, and it pays to be on the right side, at least verbally. I would not like to be Israel and depend on people like Pelosi for my life.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/12/2006 22:29 Comments || Top||

#15  Nuke halflife>>> greater than Donk/Pelosi support halflife, which averages about half the time to the next poll
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 22:41 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
First to Fall, First Forgotten
Long before 9/11, jailer Louis Pepe was savaged by a terrorist, but he refused to yield. Severely disabled, he has had to fight for assistance.
Long, sad and infuriating...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/12/2006 08:33 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He arrived at the hospital with the knife's black handle still jutting from his eye, quivering. "Louis refused to be carried out," recalled his sister, Eileen Trotta. "He wanted to walk out to show the terrorists that we won, meaning the U.S.A., and that he did not give up."
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 8:43 Comments || Top||

#2  At Supermax ol Salim will suffer a fate worse than death.

One thing this war has shown is the compassion Americans have for each other. Now that his story is out it won't take long before someone with means will see to his needs.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/12/2006 9:20 Comments || Top||

#3  WTF? Is the LA Times trying to be more patriotic now days?
Posted by: Glomosh Jinesing1688 || 07/12/2006 9:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Wow. Just wow.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 10:09 Comments || Top||

#5  The slant of the story, that Mr. Pepe has somehow been financially let down, is somewhat misleading. He gets disability of 2/3 of his old salary. He has a free $2,800/month apartment, which has space for his mother, in a highly desirable neighborhood. He got a new van in return for his old clunker. His attacker got 32 years in Supermax with no parole.

I'm not trying to disparage the formidable challenge of living with a severe brain injury. I'm saying the article unjustly implies that Mr. Pepe has been forgotten and mistreated by his neighbors and his government.
Posted by: pudftpcc || 07/12/2006 12:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Now that's the El Lay Times
Posted by: Bobby || 07/12/2006 15:55 Comments || Top||

#7  "Is the LA Times trying to be more patriotic now days?"

Only if they can make political capital from it.
Posted by: Fordesque || 07/12/2006 21:00 Comments || Top||

#8  LATimes: "we sacrifice credibility and readership (and corporate profits) for our agenda"
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 21:32 Comments || Top||


State Dept. Suffers Computer Break-Ins
The State Department is recovering from large-scale computer break-ins worldwide over the past several weeks that appeared to target its headquarters and offices dealing with China and North Korea, The Associated Press has learned. Investigators believe hackers stole sensitive U.S. information and passwords and implanted backdoors in unclassified government computers to allow them to return at will, said U.S. officials familiar with the hacking. These people spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the widespread intrusions and the resulting investigation.

The break-ins and the State Department's emergency response severely limited Internet access at many locations, including some headquarters offices in Washington, these officials said. Internet connections have been restored across nearly all the department since the break-ins were recognized in mid-June. "The department did detect anomalies in network traffic, and we thought it prudent to ensure out system's integrity," department spokesman Kurtis Cooper said. Asked what information was stolen by the hackers, Cooper said, "Because the investigation is continuing, I don't think we even know."

Tracing the origin of such break-ins is difficult. But employees told AP the hackers appeared to hit computers especially hard at headquarters and inside the Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs, which coordinates diplomacy in countries including China, the Koreas and Japan. In the tense weeks preceding North Korea's missile tests, that bureau lost its Internet connectivity for several days.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hard to imagine much intelligence lost
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  CA, How'd be possible to lose something that is not there?
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/12/2006 0:26 Comments || Top||

#3  "The department also temporarily disabled a technology known as secure sockets layer, used to transmit encrypted information over the Internet."

Well,DUH !!
Posted by: crazyhorse || 07/12/2006 1:03 Comments || Top||

#4 
The people that manage these systems are either incredibly stupid, or they are traitors.

Oh...wait...never mind.

-M
Posted by: Manolo || 07/12/2006 8:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Lost "intelligence" includes zodiac signs of international dips, favorite movie stars, favorite food recipes, etc.
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 10:25 Comments || Top||

#6  .pub files for the family reunion picnic. Tee-shirt designs, Christmas MP3z...., 500 .scr files unused.
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 11:05 Comments || Top||

#7  A little respect if you please -- some of the names on the invitee list are spies for our side, some are spies for the other side, and some we're trying to discretely seduce. We like to play Happy Families with all of them together at the summer picnics...
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 12:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Fantasy Football leagues..we got draft day fast approaching!
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#9  TW, you may of hit on something. Was V. Plame Wilson on the Happy Family list?
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 16:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Loose lips sink ships, Captain America. Even if I knew, I wouldn't dream of saying. *


*But I am awfully glad not to have made the acquaintance of such persons. I do so disapprove of those whose arrogance is not matched by their ability.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 17:14 Comments || Top||

#11  Manolo says: "The people that manage these systems are either incredibly stupid, or they are traitors.
Oh...wait...never mind."


Actually, if you knew the inside story (which I can't talk about), you wouldn't be so quick to insult. Not everyone in the DoS is a lefty loonie. SOme of them are rantburgers.
Posted by: Insider || 07/12/2006 21:22 Comments || Top||

#12  Let me guess, not the Arab desk?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 21:53 Comments || Top||

#13  Negative.
OT, but after I read the article this morning, I think I know who leaked the story to the press. The guy is a lefty loon willing to do anything to embarass the Bush admin. He is also a former journalist who brags about his exploits and is currently a low level loudmouth in the department. I have no proof, but only certain people had pieces of the puzzle that was indicated in the article. Additional info not mentioned in the article, he didn't know. Wouldn't bet my life on it, but would bet a shiny nickle.
Posted by: Insider || 07/12/2006 22:09 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Indian police kill top Kashmir rebel
SRINAGAR - Police in revolt-hit Indian Kashmir said on Wednesday they had killed a commander of a militant outfit blamed for grenade attacks that killed eight tourists in the region a day earlier. “We’ve shot dead a top operative of Lashkar-e-Taiba in (southern) Anantnag town ... (and) are investigating whether he had a role” in the grenade attacks, said a police official.

Police have blamed the grenade attacks on Lashkar, which is based in Pakistan-administered Kashmir and is one of the main Islamic militant groups fighting to end New Delhi’s rule in Indian Kashmir. Police earlier said the group may have been responsible for a wave of explosions that ripped through commuter trains in India’s financial hub, Mumbai, late Tuesday killing 183 people dead.

Eight tourists were killed and nearly 40 people were wounded in the five grenade attacks in Srinagar, the summer capital of Muslim-majority Indian Kashmir where a separatist insurgency has raged since 1989.

Police said the militant, identified as Qari Anas from Pakistan, was killed Wednesday when they raided a rebel hideout on a tip-off from a suspected Lashkar militant arrested in Srinagar soon after the grenade attacks. Police said the arrested man confessed to hurling one of the grenades. Lashkar denied its involvement in the grenade attacks, telling reporters the arrested man did not belong to their group. The group has also denied any involvement in the Mumbai attacks.

Police said another member of Lashkar was killed in Doda district, further south of Anantnag, and offered a 500,000-rupee (10,800-dollar) reward for the capture of another Lashkar militant, accusing him of masterminding recent grenade attacks in Kashmir, including those on Tuesday.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 09:26 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm always amazed at how countries can do nothing, and then within a day or two after an incident, capture or kill people who they knew wanted to cause an incident.
What info do they get after this bombing to find him they did'nt have before?
Posted by: plainslow || 07/12/2006 10:09 Comments || Top||

#2  What I want to know is if they gave him medical aid and were sensitive to his muslim cultural and religious needs before he paased into to the benevolant hands of allah.
Posted by: kelly || 07/12/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Get some of the RAB boyos in from Bangla to show 'em how it's done. They'll probably have to provide their own Shutter Guns, though.
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 14:59 Comments || Top||

#4  What I want to know is if they gave him medical aid and were sensitive to his muslim cultural and religious needs before he paased into to the benevolant hands of allah.

No need.
The Jammu and Kashmir Police are predominately muslim.
This makes it a halal shooting...

Posted by: john || 07/12/2006 15:16 Comments || Top||


India: Security tightened across country
Re-e-e-e-a-allly?
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 07/12/2006 00:37 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Indians have done well in both infiltrating terrorist groups, or fleshing out informants. Yes, some Muslims have a conscience. These attacks - one day after China received oil supply commitments from Iran - is foreign in origin, and part of a de-stabilization campaign.

Let's do the math: only 1% of Pakistanis are Hindu; 13% of Indians are Muslim. Which country would find it easier to infiltrate terrorists into the other? AOL won't let me tag-link, but check out this Hindu' anti-Muslim website.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/12/2006 6:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Right, which explains why Perv can out immediately with strong condemnation.

Perv knows this attack came from PakiWakiLand and, with Afganistan pressuring him, he hopes not to be surrounded with a Afgan/India/US slam down.
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 10:34 Comments || Top||


Tribal elder, soldier killed in Bajaur
KHAR: Suspected Islamic militants shot and killed a pro-government tribal elder and an off-duty soldier in Bajaur Agency, an official said on Tuesday. The attack on the home of Fateh Khan occurred on Monday night in Babara, a village in Bajaur, local government official Abdul Qayyum said. The assailants fired assault rifles at Khan's home from a nearby hill, killing him and the soldier, who was visiting Khan as a guest, Qayyum said.

A relative of Khan was wounded in the shooting and has been taken to a hospital in Peshawar. No one claimed responsibility but Qayyum blamed Islamic militants for the attack in the village, about 35 kilometres west of Khar, Bajaur's main town. "This is the work of enemies of the country," Qayyum said, referring to local and foreign militants suspected of links with Al Qaeda and the Taliban.
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Pakistani Police arrests 15 militants for attacking CM residence
(KUNA) -- Police has arrested 15 militants involved in an attack on provincial Chief Ministers residence, rocket firing, bomb blasts and other subversive activities in the insurgency-hit Baluchistan province, said an official on Tuesday.

Inspector General (IG) Police Baluchistan, Chaudhry Muhammad Yaqub, addressing a press conference said that these men were involved in an attack on residence of Chief Minister Mir Jam Muhammad Yousaf in Kalat, bomb blast in Baluchistan High Court and blowing up of railway tracks. He said that police also arrested a Baluchistan University Graduate Zakir, who had joined fugitive training camp at an annual pay of Rs. 6000 (US100) after graduation in 2003.

The IG said that millions of rupees are being spent annually on these terrorist training camps in the province, which are funneled from London and Abu Dubai through money laundering. He added that the law enforcing agencies are planning a big operation against these camps.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He needs two of those hats...
Posted by: jay-dubya || 07/12/2006 11:17 Comments || Top||

#2  I've got the other one.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 13:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Posts about Jammy never got much action.
Until..."The Hat".
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/12/2006 15:24 Comments || Top||

#4  The "other one" LOL!
There's a piece of RB Trivia.
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 15:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Is it his lucky hat?
Posted by: John Kerry || 07/12/2006 20:50 Comments || Top||


Lashkar denies hand behind Mumbai, Srinagar carnage
(KUNA) -- The Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) Tuesday night condemned and denied involvement in the Mumbai serial blasts and five grenade explosions in Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir (JK). While at least 137 people were killed and 300 others injured in seven explosions in local trains in Western Indian city of Mumbai, eight tourists were killed and more than 40 injured in the Srinagar grenade blasts. In a telephonic statement to several media organisations in Srinagar, Lashkar spokesman Dr Abdullah Ghaznavi condemned in strongest terms, the serial blasts both in Mumbai and Srinagar, news agency United News of India reported. "These are inhuman and barbaric acts. Islam does not permit killing of an innocent person," he said. Dr Ghaznavi said those who have perpetrated such "dastardly acts were enemies of humanity''.
He's a professional spokesman, his lips are welded on.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So.. Lashkar now volunteers at Mother Teresa's hospice?

Posted by: john || 07/12/2006 6:53 Comments || Top||

#2  "These are inhuman and barbaric acts. Islam does not permit killing of an innocent person,"

Gettin a little sick of hearing that particular bullshit...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/12/2006 15:28 Comments || Top||


Combined Kashmir-Mumbai death toll tops 174
(KUNA) -- Terror on Tuesday struck Indian cities Mumbai and Srinagar, situated 1,600 km apart in Western and Northern India respectively, killing at least 174 people, the majority of them in the country's financial capital. The blasts began in downtown Srinagar, the summer capital of Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir, Tuesday morning, killing eight people and injuring 40 in five blasts. Most of the killed were tourists from Eastern Indian city of Kolkata, news agency Indo-Asian News Service reported.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  James Lileks has thoughts on the bombing:

Death in India. It’ll be interesting to see how much this atrocity registers in the West. Not much, I fear, and I doubt it’ll be added to the string of 21st century attacks - New York, Madrid, London. It’ll be seen as mad people doing daft things in a strange crowded place in a part of the world where the trains always have nine thousand people hanging off the sides, and they’re like all totally about cows being holy.
The idea that this was an assault on a highly developed democratic civilization - which had the effrontery to prosper without the guidance of Sharia – will probably be lost in a blur of oddly-named factions and Kashmiri hairsplitting.

When someone blows up the Tokyo or Moscow subway, there’ll be a thumbsucker on the front page: Coordinated bombings of Mass Transit systems: Is There A Pattern? The article will probably reassure everyone that while the bombings appear similar, the motives differed. And should the next attack fall here, it’ll probably be blamed on Iraq, since the intelligentsia seems to have concluded that the Iraq Theater has as much to do with fighting Islamic terror as invading Peru to root out Branch Davidians.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Lileks is right, of course; he always is.

:(
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 12:17 Comments || Top||


Detail on Mumbai attack...
According to sources, RDX was been used in the improvised explosive devise (IED). The police have at least some clues about the two men who they suspect may have planted the explosives on the train which exploded at Borivali. A fair, young, wavy-haired with a straight nose and a slim youth wearing a checked shirt got into the Virar bound train at Bandra and got off in a hurry at the Andheri station. The police are making his sketch based on the description.

Another suspect, who got into the train at Dadar, was wearing a police uniform. Sources said that it is an unusual time for a policeman to leave, as the duty does not get over at that time. ‘‘He may have disguised himself in police unifrm. His nameplate had Sawant written on it,’’ said a senior police official.

Heavy rain, barely an hour after the explosions, affected rescue operations. Locals and representatives of social and political organisations joined efforts to rush the injured to hospitals.

At Matunga station, the blast was so powerful that it not only ripped through the first class coach but also blew off a portion of the platform roof. Bodies were seen scattered on the tracks while many injured, some of them profusely bleeding, were attended to by fellow travellers on the platform before being rushed to nearby hospitals.

As the blasts ripped apart train compartments elsewhere, mangled bodies of passengers were hurled out and survivors, many of them bleeding profusely, jostled to come out.

Those injured at Santa Cruz station were taken to the nearby V N Desai hospital. Some were taken KEM hospital in Parel. Mumbai airport was put on high alert after the blasts, but flight operations were not affected.

Police suspect that it’s a pre-planned subversive plot similar to the explosions that had rocked Mumbai in 1993, 2002 and 2003. Since all the explosions took place when the trains were either getting into or leaving railway stations, investigators suspect that either the explosive devices were remote-controlled or timed ones.

Confusion and panic gripped commuters who got stuck after train services on the Western railway line were stopped. Police Commissioner urged people to use the Central Railway line. The government also pressed into service additional buses, but the roads were choked till late evening.

This is the worst terrorist attack in Mumbai after the 1993 serial blasts which killed over 250 people.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Straight nose", can't be many of those
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  I think 'fair' (skinned) and straight nose is the equivalent of the Australian 'of middle eastern appearance'.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/12/2006 1:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Another great victory of Muslem arms.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/12/2006 4:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Death toll approaching 200.
Posted by: ed || 07/12/2006 8:05 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm beginning to believe that Islam is not compatible with western civilization. I don't know what that means for the future, exactly - but it's becoming more and more clear that we will eventually have to choose between the openness and freedoms of our society and their desire to see all infidels wiped from the face of the earth.

I'm not going to convert to Islam and I don't expect them to convert from Islam. That's fine - but it does mean that we can't be neighbors unless I'm willing to accept their constant attacks as a way of life. Um... no. Sorry.
Posted by: 2b || 07/12/2006 8:29 Comments || Top||

#6  2b,

Doesn't look like Islam is compatible with eastern civilization either...
Posted by: sludge || 07/12/2006 8:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Not even sure if it's compatible with islamic civilization either...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 8:38 Comments || Top||

#8  Islamism is a death cult and not compatible with anyone or anything.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 07/12/2006 10:32 Comments || Top||

#9  Government accounts of terror killings are usually lower than real numbers. One rumor mill says that "475" perished. AOL won't let me tag-link so please cut and paste:
http://p081.ezboard.com/fhinduunityhinduismhottopics.showMessage?topicID=32519.topic
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/12/2006 19:01 Comments || Top||


Bombs hit trains in Mumbai, at least 135 dead
At least 135 people were killed and hundreds injured in seven bomb explosions on packed commuter trains and stations on Tuesday in Mumbai, India's financial hub, officials said. There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the evening rush hour attacks, the worst in the city for more than a decade. But suspicion was likely to center on Muslim militants fighting New Delhi's rule in disputed Kashmir, who have been blamed for several bomb attacks in India in the past.
That's who it usually is. The commies don't like the spectacular bloodlettings the turbans go for...
City Police Commissioner A.N. Roy told Reuters 135 people were killed while Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh, the state's top elected official, said 300 people were injured in the blasts, which took place in the space of around 10 minutes. "We are not sure if it is RDX or not," Roy said, referring to the possible use of high-powered plastic explosives.
The goober they caught had RDX, but he could be part of an entirely separate plot...
Commuters fled suburban rail stations in panic after the explosions and mobile phone lines were jammed. Television pictures showed twisted rail carriages and people in torn and bloodstained clothes carrying the dead and wounded on stretchers as steady monsoon rain fell. A policeman was shown carrying two white, blood-stained bundles of what appeared to be body parts. Dazed survivors with wounds from injuries to heads, legs and hands waited at railway stations, with little sign of any emergency medical aid. Local media said the blasts appeared to have targeted first-class compartments. "The blasts happened when the trains were most crowded," D.K Shankaran, chief secretary of the state of Maharashtra, of which Mumbai is the capital, told Reuters.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh called for calm and Sonia Gandhi, leader of the ruling Congress party, expressed her grief. "I urge the people to remain calm, not to believe rumors and carry on their activity normally," Singh said in a statement, calling the explosions a "shameful act".
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Iraq
Shafei banged near Mosul?
10 Iraqi soldiers were killed in clashes with armed groups in the Shargat area south of the northern city of Mosul. According to unconfirmed reports, a well known terrorist known as Abu Abdallah Al-Shafei and allegedly the head of the Ansar Al-Sunna group was also killed in the clashes. Police reports said the clashes occurred between a garrison in charge of protecting oil installations and the armed insurgents. A large number of terrorists also perished in the clashes. Their bodies were left on the ground at the scene of the incident. Abu Abdallah Al-Shafei is high on the official wanted list, which includes 42 people.
This isn't the first time that Shafei's been reported as titzup. He was the (operational) head of Ansar al-Islam before the U.S. invasion, scuttled out through Iran as Ansar's little Islamic Wonderland was being B52'd, and then turned up again as part of the insurgency. He's not in quite the same class with Zark and Shamil, but I'd spend a few minutes ululating if he's really a goner.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'd spend a few minutes ululating (emit long loud cries)...

Will this be recorded and posted?
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Ah another notch? This has been a great summer.
Posted by: Cobra || 07/12/2006 0:44 Comments || Top||

#3  CA, you get the MP3 of Fred ululating when you join Rantburg Select ...
Posted by: Steve White || 07/12/2006 1:57 Comments || Top||

#4  But hurry - this is a limited time offer and supplies are limited! Call 1-800-rantbrg - operators are standing by!!
Posted by: lotp || 07/12/2006 8:05 Comments || Top||

#5  You gotta see the video "Fred Plays the Pan Flute".
Posted by: ed || 07/12/2006 8:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Is that the one where he does the duet with Slim Whitman?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 8:09 Comments || Top||

#7  FEATURING: Star Jones on the tambourine
Posted by: Glimp Spomomble5316 || 07/12/2006 9:41 Comments || Top||

#8  I'm still waiting for my Rantburg BeDazzler™
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#9  Can I swap the video for a tachion wave flux coil for my transmorphigizer?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/12/2006 14:56 Comments || Top||

#10  No? How about swapping the video and the recording of the ululating for a spare heads up display circuit board for an interdimensional transport unit? I'll even throw in the molecular stabilization and genome mapping software
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/12/2006 20:06 Comments || Top||

#11  No can do, Sock, but if you send in a couple of box tops plus the 6-packs they were attached to, I think there's a couple of Rantburg chip clips in the back of the prize closet...
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 20:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Tough bargainer, Sea...
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 20:44 Comments || Top||

#13  What's the donation for the RB Klein Beer-bottle?
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 20:45 Comments || Top||

#14  Ya got any tote bags?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/12/2006 21:54 Comments || Top||

#15  Y'all will be demanding ponies next, I just know it.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 23:27 Comments || Top||


Iraq Roundup
Car explosion kills seven, wounds 13 Iraqis in Baghdad
(KUNA) -- At least seven Iraqi civilians got killed and another 13 wounded when a booby trapped car exploded Tuesday in Saydia area in Baghdad, while gunmen in Tikrit assassinated the spouse of Salah Eddin's governor. Iraqi Interior Ministry source told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) that security authorities closed the explosion location, allowing only ambulances into the area to transport victims to nearby hospitals.

Saydia area also witnessed earlier today a suicide attack on the National Police Commandos headquarters, killing at least 15 national policemen.

In Tikrit, gunmen bombed the clinic of Dr Amira Al-Rabiey, the spouse of the governor of Salah Eddin Hamad Al-Shabti, Interior Ministry source to KUNA. The explosion immediately killed Dr Al-Rabiey and wounded four patients, added the source.

16 people killed in double suicide bombings in green zone
(KUNA) -- The US military said on Tuesday that a double suicide bombings targeted the heavily fortified green zone in the Iraqi capital killing 16 people, among them one police officer. The US military said two terrorist bombers wearing explosive belts detonated their bombss amidst customers in two small shops and in front of a check point north of the green zone entrance. Earlier, Iraqi police said at least 25 civilians were injured and seven were killed in the attack which involved a parked car near a restaurant.

Car bomb explodes at Iraqi police check point
(KUNA) -- A suicider in a car attacked on Tuesday a building which belongs to Iraqi special police forces in Al-Saidiah south of the capital. Iraqi police source said the attack caused heavy damages to the building and that rescue teams were still trying to recover victims trapped underneath the rubble.

An Iraqi police source said mortar shells targeting the police building caused havoc along with injuring four of its soldiers minuets after the car exploded to level the building to the ground. It is still not clear how many of the police special forces were killed, but first estimates suggest death casualties to 15.

Suicide bomber detonates his car close to Iraqi police check-point
(KUNA) -- A suicide bomber blew his improvised car bomb up on Tuesday close to Iraqi commandoes checkpoint south of the capital. Iraqi security source said the explosion targeting a police checkpoint was also close to a Shia shrine in Al-Aamli area which resulted in injuring eight people, three were Iraqi commandoes and five civilians. The explosion caused damage to several parked cars nearby. Baghdad was witnessing two other heavy explosions earlier resulting in killing seven Iraqis and injuring 25 others.

Ten civilians, ten soldiers killed in unrest in Iraq
(KUNA) -- Ten Iraqi civilians were killed or injured in various acts of violence in the governorate of Diali, east of the capital Baghdad, Iraqi police reported. One of the 10 casualties was killed while three others were injured in an armed attack, which took place in the Souk area, inside the city of Baaqouba, which is the main city in the Diali governorate, the police said.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Seems like KUNA just reports the news. No commentary. No "swelling, surging, soaring, staggering sectarian, impending civil war" adjectives used here!
Posted by: Bobby || 07/12/2006 6:38 Comments || Top||

#2  I believe what we are seeing is the last gasp desparate attempt to stir up a civil war by Zark's boys.
I'd say based upon Tater Sadr's call for unity the AQ's are running out of time.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/12/2006 14:58 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israeli HQ hit by mortar shells
LEBANON'S Shiite Muslim Hezbollah militia claimed today to have hit the Israeli army's northern headquarters twice in two hours with mortars, causing casualties.

The Israeli army confirmed a mortar shell had hit the Branit army base near the Israeli border town of Netua, but said no one was injured. Branit is the headquarters of the army division in charge of the Lebanese border.
After the second attack, the Shiite militia boasted of having "once again bombarded the Branit base."

Hezbollah's armed wing, the Islamic Resistance, said it had "bombarded the command centre of the Galilee contingent with artillery and rockets in retaliation for the continued aggressions by the Israeli army."

"The post took a direct hit and there were losses in enemy ranks," it said in a statement.

An Israeli army spokesman said a second mortar shell had landed inside the Israeli army headquarters. "There's been another mortar shell, but so far no injuries or damage."
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/12/2006 21:04 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Triangulate the place of origin and pound into a fine dust.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/12/2006 21:43 Comments || Top||

#2  nobody except IDF should be alive in Lebanon within mortar range. WTF?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 22:51 Comments || Top||


IAF Clobbers Paleo Foreign Ministry Bldg
A bomb dropped by an IAF warplane destroyed the Palestinian Authority Foreign Ministry building in Gaza City early Thursday, wounding at least three people and causing widespread damage in the area.

The IDF confirmed it carried out the airstrike noting that it is "led by Hamas."

The wounded were in neighboring buildings, and it was not known if anyone was in the ministry at the time. Ambulances and rescue services raced to the scene.

Houses and cars in the area were badly damaged by the force of the blast, and the third and fourth floor of the foreign ministry building were destroyed
Posted by: Wheager Thromorong1016 || 07/12/2006 19:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey, it's a modest start.
Posted by: Whaling Unomoger7693 || 07/12/2006 19:56 Comments || Top||

#2  "the third and fourth floor of the foreign ministry building were destroyed"
Seems like one more bomb is needed for the first and second floors.
Posted by: Darrell || 07/12/2006 20:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Dang it Uri I TOLD you that a 1,000 kg bomb wasn't big enough.
Next time use the 2,000 kg model.
Dang smart aleck pilots. Give em an F-16 and they think they know every frickin' thing.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/12/2006 20:10 Comments || Top||

#4  My only regret about the current festivities is that it wasn't done during Arafat's infatada and we didn't get to turn that terrorist @##@!@#$ into raspberry jam with a JDAM
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/12/2006 20:12 Comments || Top||

#5  And how quickly the Palestinian's assembled their "wounded" actors...propaganda tv for the world.
Posted by: milford421 || 07/12/2006 20:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Why at night? The people that need killing would be there during the day.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 07/12/2006 20:49 Comments || Top||

#7  About bloody time.....yes? Let's see if the Bush Administration trys to talk Israel into "a measured approach and diplomacy". It has often been my mantraa that if we left the Israeli's to their own devices in the '67 six day war the world at large and the middle east in particular would not be in the condiiton they are today.....just my humble opinion.
Posted by: WolfDog || 07/12/2006 21:14 Comments || Top||


Top Hamas Leader Hurt in Israeli Bombing
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) - A Hamas militant leader who has topped Israel's most-wanted list for a decade was badly wounded and underwent four hours of spinal surgery Wednesday after an Israeli F-16 warplane dropped a quarter-ton bomb that killed nine members of one family, security officials said.

The top fugitive, Mohammed Deif, could end up paralyzed, Palestinian security officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss his condition. Wednesday's blast marked the army's fourth attempt to kill Deif, held responsible for suicide bombings in Israel. In a 2002 missile strike, he lost an eye.
An eye here, a spine there ...
Wednesday's airstrike on a home in a crowded Gaza City neighborhood was by far the deadliest in Israel's 15-day military campaign in Gaza, launched after Hamas-allied militants kidnapped an Israeli soldier. Israel's air force targeted the two-story house of Nabil Abu Salmiyeh, a Hamas activist and university lecturer, after getting intelligence information that the leaders of Hamas' military wing, responsible for the abduction of the soldier, were meeting there. Palestinian security officials said seven or eight top Hamas officials were present.

The blast wounded 37 people, three critically, said Health Minister Bassem Naim. Hospital officials said Raed Saad, a top Hamas operative, was among the wounded, but details of his condition weren't released. Abu Salmiyeh, his wife, and seven of his nine children, ages 4-18, all died.

Hamas initially said its leaders had emerged safely from the 2:30 a.m. attack, but Palestinian security officials later said Deif and several other leading militants were hurt.
Anyone 'stable'?
Hamas militants took over the intensive care unit at Gaza's Shifa Hospital on Wednesday. Several people were being treated, including some in critical condition, medical officials said. Black-uniformed Hamas gunmen stood guard. A large bearded man blocked people from entering, permitting only a team of doctors and top Hamas officials such as Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahar to pass. The guard angrily declined to say who was being treated.
"None of your bidness! Amscray!"
Israeli officials accused the militants of using civilians as a shield by meeting in a private home. ``Israel is compelled to take action against those planning to unleash lethal terror attacks against Israeli citizens,'' said David Baker, an official in the office of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. ``Palestinian terrorist leaders continue to take refuge among and hide behind their own civilians.''
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 18:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How many hospitals can he be in in hellhole gaza? Watch it and helizap ALL ambulances leaving.
Posted by: Brett || 07/12/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Not good enough. Hit him again.
Posted by: Darrell || 07/12/2006 18:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Abu Salmiyeh, his wife, and seven of his nine children, ages 4-18, all died.


Say "Hi!" to Himmler for me.
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 18:30 Comments || Top||

#4  you're not innocent if these asshole terrorists are meeting in your house. You're acceptable collateral damage. Nothing more
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 18:37 Comments || Top||

#5  "Pray for sepsis." -- Various
Posted by: N guard || 07/12/2006 18:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Ha ha. Killing him one but at a time. This could be fun.
Posted by: Iblis || 07/12/2006 18:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Do it again! YOu're gonna keep doin it till you get it right mister!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/12/2006 18:52 Comments || Top||

#8  sigh. I didn't see the phrase "intractable pain" anywhere in the article. oh well.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/12/2006 19:14 Comments || Top||

#9  1/4 Ton bomb.

Damn. Hey! Wake up! The purer than thou strategy isn't working!
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 19:34 Comments || Top||

#10  "seven of his nine children, ages 4-18, all died."

Not good.

Mahamoud> How many children would you kill? to stop suicide bombinimgs in Israel? You evil zionist opressor!

Ishmael> All of them! you filthy terrorist scum.

Posted by: pihkalbadger || 07/12/2006 20:47 Comments || Top||

#11 
"seven of his nine children, ages 4-18, all died."

Not good.


He shouldn't have been around them. He was a legitimate target; being around civilians puts the blame for their deaths on him.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/12/2006 20:57 Comments || Top||

#12  I'm sure he's filled with elation shame. Scumbag should be sterilized so he can't kill any more children by his activities
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 21:19 Comments || Top||

#13  Moral of this story: 500 pounders are good for one story concrete structures. Next time use a 1000 pounder, or a 2000 pounder and be certain.
Posted by: ed || 07/12/2006 22:00 Comments || Top||

#14  Zark took 2 ea 500 lb bombs and lived for a bit afterward. These guys take a lickin' and keep on tickin', at least for the time it takes their mainsprings to run down.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/12/2006 22:26 Comments || Top||

#15  when your higher thinking is in your ass and cortex, it takes a thumping to terminate....like roaches
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 22:40 Comments || Top||


Israel calls Hizbollah capture of soldiers act of war (summary as of 1:16 pm Eastern Time)
1:16 PM (ET)
QASMIYEH, Lebanon (Reuters) - Hizbollah guerrillas captured two Israeli soldiers and killed at least seven on Wednesday in what Israel described as an act of war by Lebanon that would draw a "very painful" response. The sources said the Israeli soldiers had been seized at around 9 a.m. (0600 GMT) across the border from Aita al-Shaab, some 15 km (nine miles) from the Mediterranean coast.

Hizbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said the two soldiers had been seized to force Israel to release prisoners. "What we did today ... is the only feasible path to free detainees from Israeli jails," he told a news conference in Beirut, proposing "indirect" negotiations, not confrontation.

He said the operation had been in the works for five months. The Shi'ite movement has made two previous failed attempts to catch Israeli soldiers for a prisoner swap in less than a year.

Hizbollah's bold cross-border attack returned it to the frontline of the Middle East conflict. It inflicted the heaviest losses Israel has suffered on its northern border since it withdrew from south Lebanon in 2000, and drew Prime Minister Ehud Olmert into a second crisis over captured Israeli soldiers.

Lebanese civilians braced for Israeli bombs, but many people in the mainly Shi'ite south expressed defiance. "The resistance has given us a balance of power and Israel will pay the price for any retaliation," said Hussein Mohammed, 55. Two Lebanese civilians were killed in an Israeli air raid on a coastal bridge at Qasmiyeh. Bombs hit eight other bridges in the south and 16 Lebanese were wounded, security sources said.

The Israeli army confirmed that two Israeli soldiers had been captured and at least seven killed on the Lebanese frontier. A military source said the toll could rise.

Hizbollah supporters set off firecrackers and distributed sweets in the streets of Beirut in celebration.

Israeli ground forces crossed into Lebanon to hunt for the missing soldiers, Israeli Army Radio said. Nasrallah said Hizbollah fighters had repelled the incursion. Nasrallah said one Hizbollah fighter was killed in Israeli air raids, along with several civilians. Nasrallah said the Israeli captives were in a secure place, but gave no details on their condition.

Traffic was thin on roads in the south amid sporadic Israeli shelling of border areas. An Israeli rocket hit a car carrying a crew from Lebanese New Television, wounding all three.

Israeli troops have not struck deep into Lebanon since they withdrew six years ago after an 18-year war of attrition by Syrian- and Iranian-backed Hizbollah fighters. "It is an act of war by the state of Lebanon against the state of Israel in its sovereign territory," Olmert said of Hizbollah's action, threatening a "very painful" response.


In 2004, Hizbollah swapped a kidnapped Israeli businessman and the bodies of three Israeli soldiers for more than 420 Arab prisoners after German mediation. Germany said on Wednesday it was contacting Middle Eastern capitals about the two captured Israeli soldiers, but declined to say if it was prepared to mediate again. Hizbollah, the only Lebanese faction to retain its weapons after the 1975-90 civil war, is also a political party with 14 members in the Beirut parliament and two cabinet ministers.

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan led widespread international calls for Hizbollah to free the captured Israelis. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice condemned the Hizbollah attack, urged all sides to show restraint and asked Syria "to use its influence to support a positive outcome."

In Gaza, Israel killed nine members of a Palestinian family in an air strike that destroyed a three-storey residential building where top Hamas commanders were believed to be meeting.

The bombing was among a series of attacks that killed a total of 22 Palestinians as Israeli forces swept into central Gaza on Wednesday, broadening an offensive aimed at freeing a captured soldier and halting cross-border rocket fire. The Israeli military said the air raid wounded Mohammad Deif, leader of the governing Hamas's armed wing. A spokesman for Hamas's Izz el-Deen al-Qassam Brigades denied Deif was hurt.

Israel's ground campaign in Gaza, the first since it left the territory last year, has killed about 78 Palestinians.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 16:40 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "What we did today ... is the only feasible path to free detainees from Israeli jails,"

It could also be the path of a Hellfire up Naz's ass...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/12/2006 17:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Hizbollah = Irainian meddeling. Burn Hizbollah in Lebanon to the ground. Turn southern Lebanon into a crater.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/12/2006 18:00 Comments || Top||

#3  According to Pajamas Media, the two captured Israeli soldiers are Druze.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 18:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Which was noted in another thread hours ago. Sorry about that.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||


U.S. Blames Syria, Iran For Israeli Soldiers' Kidnapping
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 14:03 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Meanwhile, Israel formally blames Lebanon. Allies got to get their act straight. Blame them all!
Posted by: borgboy || 07/12/2006 14:12 Comments || Top||

#2  I blame Bush! Oh, wait,... nevermind...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 14:27 Comments || Top||

#3  QUAGMIRE!
Posted by: Mike N. || 07/12/2006 14:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Pray for the war to continue. The last time Israel signed a peace accord it cost the US $3.2 Billion a year in bribe money.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/12/2006 15:08 Comments || Top||

#5  To all of you
:http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/

Go to the art. "Singing out of the flock", which as of july 12 is the second art. after "enemies that need each other"

Posted by: Omomoque Jomoter1383 || 07/12/2006 15:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Kevin Barrett blames kidnapping on US secret teams, black ops.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 07/12/2006 16:38 Comments || Top||


Israel approves wave of Lebanon air strikes
JERUSALEM, July 12 (Reuters) - Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz on Wednesday authorised a campaign of air strikes in Lebanon that would target both Hizbollah guerrilla installations and Lebanese civilian infrastructure, Israel's Channel 10 said.

The television station described the planned blitz as part of Israel's response to the capture of two of its soldiers and killing of several others in a Hizbollah border raid earlier in the day. Israel's military had no immediate comment. Channel 10 said Peretz also ordered Israel's homefront command to prepare northern communities, including the port city of Haifa, for possible Hizbollah rocket strikes. Residents of Israeli border towns had already received orders to take shelter.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 12:50 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Weapons free."
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 12:57 Comments || Top||

#2  sum bitch git sum!
Posted by: RD || 07/12/2006 12:59 Comments || Top||

#3  "Cleared Hot!". This is what should have happened after the Marine barracks bombing back in 1982(?). Use white phosphorous and make it a WMD attack too!
Posted by: NOLA "Victim" || 07/12/2006 13:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Israel is not wasting time. They've already struck hard and we're only on comment #4. Of course maybe they were striking as they released this.
Posted by: Darrell || 07/12/2006 15:41 Comments || Top||


Ein-el-Hellhole celebrates Hezb kidnap
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 11:07 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Always wondered what religion Satan was.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 07/12/2006 11:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe we'll all live to see Ein-El-Smoking Hole...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/12/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Always wondered what religion Satan was.

I always thought he was a satanist... but now I'm not so sure (from an hollow earth/compared mythologies guy who runs a swell fortean ML in which he quotes WND).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 11:46 Comments || Top||

#4  one word JDAM
Posted by: C-Low || 07/12/2006 11:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Celebrating! If these scum had any sense they'd be digging more bomb shelters. It's not a victory, nitwits -- it's a pending major loss!
Posted by: Darrell || 07/12/2006 12:30 Comments || Top||

#6  when they started firing into the air that would have been a perfect time too bomb the shit out of them
Posted by: Greamp Elmavinter1163 || 07/12/2006 13:28 Comments || Top||

#7  It looks like that's pretty much what happened near Beirut, #6.
Posted by: Darrell || 07/12/2006 15:42 Comments || Top||


IDF Re-Engages Lebanon, Reserves Called Up
IDF tanks and ground troops entered Lebanon in response to the kidnapping of two soldiers and killing of 7 others. The army is calling up reserves to report to Israel's northern border. Air Force planes bombed bridges leading northward from Lebanon’s southern border with Israel, in order to prevent the movement of the kidnappers. Meanwhile, IAF helicopters and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) were combing the air above Lebanon searching for the captured soldiers as well.

By mid-day Wednesday, Israeli bombers were spotted flying over the Lebanese capital of Beirut. Massive shelling by IDF artillery on both land and sea was reported – striking at least 17 targets across southern Lebanon. Defense officials reportedly are seeking approval for a much wider offensive, which may be granted following Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's emergency Cabinet session scheduled for Wednesday evening. Sources in the IDF Chief of Staff's office quoted COS Dan Halutz calling for Lebanon's infrastructure to be reverted back fifty years.

This is the first time the IDF has launched a large-scale re-entry into Lebanon since then-Prime Minister Ehu Barak initiated a unilateral IDF retreat from the region in May, 2000. Since then, Hizbullah has kidnapped three soldiers, launched several cross-border attacks and fired missiles at northern Israeli towns. The group has thousands of missile batteries deployed all along the border facing Israel.

As of noon, a full IDF division had already received their "Order 8s" - immediate emergency call-up orders for reservists. The IDF Spokesman's office refused to confirm the report, but did confirm that individual units were being called up.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 10:04 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Go get'em boys! Let's hope they keep the intiative and keep rolling all the way through Syria.
Posted by: NOLA "Victim" || 07/12/2006 10:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Speaking of Syria, what units are sitting on the eastern border?
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||

#3  It will be interesting to see what Syria does. For defense (or a suicidal offense), they might be inclined to move more troops to the Golan. If they don't then that would be a good sign they will sit this out.

Or they might move troops to east, to grab Lebanese territory again.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 07/12/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Grom have you finished your duty cycle?
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Pound these bastards hard. If Syria moves troops, do we reinforce from Iraq ? Any opportunity to eliminate more of these worthless fools is a good one.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 07/12/2006 11:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Would Israel really need help with Syria?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 11:24 Comments || Top||

#7  And where does this put Iran what with Hizbullah connections to Iran? WIth the discussion yesterday, of bringing on full force, this may be the beginning of the fight in the Middle East that these idiots have been wanting.

Rummy did just suddenly and quietly slip into Afgran and Iraw.
Posted by: Sherry || 07/12/2006 11:52 Comments || Top||

#8  Does appear the sh*t is about to hit the fan in the Mideast. Might as well get it on sooner than later. Looks like that is what is coming anyway.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/12/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||

#9  I did not think Olmert had it in him. This is a pleasant surprise. If he can destroy a few billion dollars of Lebanese infrastructure, I think they'll think twice before pulling something like this in the future.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/12/2006 12:34 Comments || Top||

#10  How long can Israel keep the reserves called up? It doesn't sound like they called up everybody, but even a few has got to have a strong effect on the economy since they are so small.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 07/12/2006 12:36 Comments || Top||

#11  "How long can Israel keep the reserves called up?"
How long does it take to bounce rubble or melt sand?
Posted by: Darrell || 07/12/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||

#12  God watch over them until they return safely home in triumph.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 12:45 Comments || Top||

#13  Damascus
Posted by: RD || 07/12/2006 13:06 Comments || Top||

#14  They have Gods full support.
Posted by: newc || 07/12/2006 13:07 Comments || Top||

#15  ZF,

There you again, with your "bomb -empty- buildings" theory. Before you start passing out the CMH to Olmert, read this. You can learn the extent of the incompetence of the Israeli PM and DM.

The only thing the Islamists understand is mass death and mayhem and Israel should deliver. Where is Bibi when we need him. Oh! I forgot, the LLL's in Israel voted for Kerry.

Only the God of Israel can save them now.
Posted by: Hupaving Omomotch4140 || 07/12/2006 14:10 Comments || Top||

#16  Iran's Ahmadinejad has been promoting his genocide line before huge crowds, all over the Ayatollah terrorist entity. Where a people are brainwashed, massive carpet bombing, etc is legitimate. Frankly, I would nuke Qom in a manner that would make it uninhabitable for hundreds of years. The second the Ayatollahs appear vulnerable, they would lose support. Secular and anti-Islam exile movements openly refer to the Mullahs as: "Arabist parasites." Given access to Iran media, it would not be difficult to exploit the depravity of the slavish state of the descendents of the Persian empire in deference to Arabs, a parasitic people who have done little to advance humanity.
AOL won't let me tag-link, but please cut and paste this:
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/iran_news.shtml
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/12/2006 15:09 Comments || Top||

#17  I very much doubt Syria will get involved directly. It supports Hezbollah to avoid a full-scale war that might end up with Israeli tanks in Damascus. Israel has to go after Hezbollah in South Lebanon. Bomb the bridges over the Litani, destroy every weapon they have and take 1000 prisoners. They we can start negotiating.
Posted by: Apostate || 07/12/2006 15:10 Comments || Top||

#18  Syria= Iran.......
Posted by: Ulomoper Gloling9385 || 07/12/2006 15:51 Comments || Top||

#19  Nothing at all about any AA, doesn't look like the oppos are even bothering to try. Saves a little money and time I guess.
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 15:58 Comments || Top||

#20  #4. 2 years ago.
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/12/2006 16:55 Comments || Top||

#21  Good.
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 19:39 Comments || Top||

#22  I have been trying to get details of the Hizbollah attack. A Hizbollah supporter from Iraq, posted the following on a forum.

"This morning, Wednesday 12.07.06, Hezbullah ambushed an Israeli military convoy on the Lebanese border killing three Israelis and taken two others as prisoners. When the Israelis rushed with their tanks, huge road-side bombs exploded destroying two tanks and killing an additional four Israeli soldiers. This attack was preceded by at least 30 missiles fired at Israel command and control posts. Hezbullah seems to launch its operation in support of the besieged Palestinians in Gaza whom are being killed, point blank, by Israeli Tank fires. In his news conference this afternoon, Sheikh Nassurallah hinted of the need to exchange prisoners and announced his readiness to confront Israel if Olmert choses to escalate. Many believe that the consequences of Hezbullah attacks may be the fuse to cause the Islamic explosion promised by Ahmedinejad, if the Israelis do not stop their massacres against Palestinians.

Let Condoleeza play her fiddle (Piano) while the Middle East (Rome) is burning. Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Palestine and now Lebanon are united in fighting the USraeli crusaders. Let the USraeli agressors be victims for a change."
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I don't like using enemy sources, but this sounds credible. The IDF did lose a tank, and a powerful planted bomb (not an IED) could do it. A co-ordinated attack by overwhelming forces, could halt a convoy and enable attackers to kill or capture soldiers. And use of diversion by the terrorists would prevent effective confrontation.

Folks, stop talking about beating this enemy, piecemeal, and annihilating them wholesale. Without mullah leadership and jihad ideology, Muslims would abandon Islam when they learn of its utter worthlessness in advancing humanity. It is us v them; now or never. Diplomacy can't trump sharia; total war can remove the Muslims ability to make terror.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/12/2006 21:57 Comments || Top||


Israeli troops enter Lebanon amid kidnap reports
Israel launched air strikes and sent troops and tanks into southern Lebanon Wednesday, after Hezbollah television said its guerrillas had abducted two Israeli soldiers along the border.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert described the Hezbollah attacks as an "act of war" by Lebanon and promised a "very painful and far-reaching" response, The Associated Press reported.

Hezbollah is demanding a prisoner exchange for the soldiers' release. In a later claim on its television network, Hezbollah said it had "destroyed" an Israeli tank crossing into southern Lebanon. The fate of the tank crew was not known.

The valleys along the Israeli-Lebanese border thundered with artillery fire and clouds of blue-gray smoke could be seen rising above Lebanese positions.

Israeli military sources confirmed a troop build-up on the northern border and said preparations were being made for possible call up of reserve soldiers.

"This morning there was an attack on civilians and soldiers in the north. At this moment there are Israeli security forces operating inside Lebanon," Olmert told reporters.

"The government will convene this evening for a special cabinet meeting. I want to make clear that the events this morning are not a terror attack but an operation of a sovereign state without any reason or provocation."

The Israeli Cabinet is scheduled to meet at 7 p.m. (noon ET), according to Olmert's office.

"The Lebanese government, of which Hezbollah is part of, is trying to undermine the stability of the region, and the Lebanese government will be responsible for the consequences," Olmert said.

The abduction of the soldiers would open a second front after Israel sent tanks and troops into the Palestinian territory of Gaza following the abduction of an Israeli soldier by Palestinian militants. Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit, 19, was abducted in a raid on an Israeli military post in southern Israel on June 25.

The militants holding him have demanded the release of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel in exchange for Shalit. Israel has flatly refused.

Responding to the most recent incident along the Israel-Lebanon border, Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz said in a statement: "The State of Israel sees itself free to use all measures that it finds it needs and the (Israeli Forces) have been given orders in that direction.

"If the soldiers are not returned we will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years," Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Dan Halutz to Israeli Channel 10.

Israeli forces, observers said, were bombing roads, bridges and guerrilla positions in southern Lebanon an attempt to prevent guerrillas from moving the troops deeper into Lebanon.

Israeli forces are also responding to rocket attacks fired by Hezbollah into northern Israel, according to the army.

Four Israeli civilians and six soldiers have been wounded in the fighting so far, according to the Israeli military.

The IDF instructed citizens in northern villages to take shelter as the violence escalated.

It is the latest skirmish between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon, whose forces traded cross-border fire in late May following the assassination of an Islamic Jihad official in the southern Lebanese city of Sidon.

Mahmoud Majzoub, also known as Abu Hamza, was killed in a car bombing, which Islamic Jihad blamed on Israel. Israel denied any involvement in the incident.

Hezbollah is designated a terrorist group by the United States and Israel but is a significant player in Lebanon's fractious politics.

Israel set up a security buffer zone in southern Lebanon from 1978 until 2000.
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/12/2006 07:33 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This IS an act of war, an overt act of war.

I hope hizbollah gets *full* unexpected consequences out of this... since apparently the arab-muslim way of war is to attack an opponent while pretending not to, and asking for said opponent to act with restraint and not to defend himself... all this in a state of constant aggression with intervals of tactical hudnas... a perpetual "asymetrical war" 180° from the western way of war.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 7:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Level everything, scrape the ground clean and annex. Hizb'allah can spend all their time feeding and housing the refugees.
Posted by: ed || 07/12/2006 7:58 Comments || Top||

#3  What we need to see is peace through superior firepower - plus annexing troublesome territories and then some judicious ethnic cleansing - give the residents checks to get the hell out; hell give them a vehicle as well; it's cheaper in the long run.

It's now clear to me that the solution is a (much) bigger Israel.

And as I regularly point to you guys, Israel is our Vienna, Lose Israel and the Barbarians are that much closer to the gates.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/12/2006 8:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Israel has the ability to take care of these long-festering problems in Lebanon,Gaza, and Syria. What's the downside? Middle east war? That is already going on. Solves some of our problems in Iraq too.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/12/2006 8:09 Comments || Top||

#5  What's the downside?

A great deal of Israel's economy is directly dependent on trade with EU countries, who already lean towards the Palestinians politically. A boycott of Israeli goods, which IIRC has been threatened in the past, would be devastating to that small country.
Posted by: lotp || 07/12/2006 8:16 Comments || Top||

#6  peace through superior firepower

I hope that piece of wisdom will prevail here.

As long as hizbollah can act and talk sh*t without consequence, it will go on with shelling, incursions,... same as hamas.
They need to be taught a real lesson, something that will hurt them enough to make them think again before keeping on with that Cycle Of Violence routine.

Btw, frenhc lci channel is implying the kidnaped isareli soldiers were of course on the lebanese side, plus the usual innuendo about mean Israel (they shelled villages and bridges, you know, while hizbollah launched rockets at "military outposts", even if civilians were hurt collaterally)... I remember a couple of days ago the "acknowledgement" by Israel that force had failed, and the gaza raid only strenghtened the hamas, and they were gonna swap prisoners any time soon... this pisses me off, not to mention the fact the *french* tv talking head pronounce "hamas" and "hizbollah" the arab way, a phenomenon dating back to a few years (post 9/11???).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 8:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Lose Israel and the Barbarians are that much closer to the gates.

Scrub that. The barbarians are already inside the gates. Lose Israel and the barbarians inside the gates will be emboldened to a degree you can't imagine.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/12/2006 8:28 Comments || Top||

#8  A boycott of Israeli goods, which IIRC has been threatened in the past, would be devastating to that small country.

So Europe can only get tough with the Jews? Europe is the major ally of the Paleostinian enemy, the political wing of Hezbollah, as it were. Israel has the choice of being bled by the certainty of a thousand knife cuts from the Paleostinians or possibly starved by the racism of EUropeans. I'm not sure it's that tough a choice, or that it gets better with age. What are they going to do when it's their trade with EUrabia that's threatened?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 8:32 Comments || Top||

#9  It does not appear that the islamofacists understand anything but total war, complete defeat, and complete domination. Only then one might begin to get their attention and dictate terms.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/12/2006 8:34 Comments || Top||

#10  It's now clear to me that the solution is a (much) bigger Israel.

Perhaps as large as the biblical borders of the "promised land"... from the Nile to the banks of the Euphrates.
Posted by: Evil Elvis || 07/12/2006 9:03 Comments || Top||

#11  At some point the Israelis need to tell the world to pound sand and go Old Testament on the Palestinians: Kill every male above the age of 12 and drive the rest over their borders into Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. Level the countryside. Disinfect and resettle with sane people willing to live in peace. The Palestinians as a people are beyond redemption.
Posted by: RWV || 07/12/2006 9:08 Comments || Top||

#12  DEBKAfile’s military sources report Israel is calling up armored infantry and air force reserves. Israeli helicopters drop special forces over Beirut area midday Wednesday to prevent Hizballah kidnappers going to ground with Israeli hostages in Shiite district. Arabiya TV claims the two kidnapped soldiers are Druzes. Israel reports 6 soldiers injured, 3 critically, and 11 civilians wounded.

Israeli reinforcements are streaming north. The Israeli force is running into roadside bombs and heavy anti-tank rocket and missile fire in the chase for the Hizballah kidnappers who snatched two soldiers early Wednesday, 12 July.

Israel warplanes are striking bridges and Hizballah command posts. Naval ships are bombing Hizballah coastal positions.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 9:26 Comments || Top||

#13  This was the match boys. ITS ON!

Irans fingers are all over this. They know full well we were going to attack them and the rest of the Muslim world would yawn like when we hit Saddam. By forcing Israel to jump through their proxy Hezbollah the Iranians/Syrians can now join in resulting in US jumping in making the Muslim street really pop because the propaganda of it being a Israeli/Muslim war will be believable.

We waited to long I called this along time ago that Iran would use Hezbollah to flip the script. I just don’t think the self-defense fuzzy we will get will matter with the LLL's anyway but turning it into a Israeli/Muslim conflict through Hamas/Hezbollah Iran got a PR boost and major support as the Muslim leader not just some dictator of Iran beefing with the US.

Damm we waited to long we f*cked up. errrrr
Posted by: C-Low || 07/12/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||

#14  Israel has the choice of being bled by the certainty of a thousand knife cuts from the Paleostinians or possibly starved by the racism of EUropeans. I'm not sure it's that tough a choice, or that it gets better with age. What are they going to do when it's their trade with EUrabia that's threatened?

Oh, I agree NS. But it's naive to think that Israel will only suffer VERBAL actions from Europe. Their necessary self-defense actions may well bring them to the point where their economic as well as military survival is threatened. Those who support their response to Lebanon - and I am one - need to be willing to push the White House and Congress to support this tiny country in more economic ways, if necessary.
Posted by: lotp || 07/12/2006 9:33 Comments || Top||

#15  UPDATE to article:
The fresh crisis developed even as the situation continued to deteriorate in the Gaza Strip, where Palestinian militants are still holding Gilad Shalit, an 19-year-old Israeli corporal seized on June 25.

His capture, which was claimed by three groups including the armed wing of the governing Hamas, sparked the worst crisis in the region since the Islamist movement had its cabinet sworn in last March.

In an interview, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said his mediation efforts for Shalit's release had been sabotaged by an unnamed party. (Wonder who that could've been?).

In the remarks published Wednesday, Murabak said he had reached a deal with Israel for "a large number of prisoners" to be released but added that Hamas came under fresh pressure and the mediation was scuppered. (Oh, there's our answer...I assume that Iran's/Syria's fingerprints are all over this, eh, Hosni?)

Hezbollah and its leader Hassan Nasrallah have repeatedly urged Hamas not to release the Israeli soldier, arguing that his capture was the best bargaining chip for the release of Palestinian and Arab prisoners.

The three groups detaining Shalit in the Gaza Strip have demanded the release of 1,000 Palestinian, Arab, Muslim and other prisoners.

Israel has so far refused to negotiate and launched a large-scale operation against the Gaza Strip, killing more than 60 Palestinians in the past 10 days and pounding the territory's infrastructure.
Posted by: BA || 07/12/2006 9:38 Comments || Top||

#16  Fucking level the place.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/12/2006 9:39 Comments || Top||

#17  See it your way, C-Low, but I don't think this has been a great week for the axis of evil. Going from East to west, Norks missles fizzle, Japan talks re-armament. Muzzies blow up Mumbai trains in Madrid replay and push India to brink of action against Pakistan. India also needs to look macho afte missiles fizzle. Taliban perks up spring offensive and draws more British troops in, revealing Brit lack of CAS. Everybody's getting fed up with Iran. Iraq is plodding along with Maliki starting to get fed up with Iranina puppet Sadr. Israel buzzing Damascus and taking out Hezhbollah.

Seems like the coalition of the willing got some recruits and spine. That offsets any temporary PR problem. Doesn't looks quite so bad as it did a month ago.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 9:40 Comments || Top||

#18  Those who support their response to Lebanon - and I am one - need to be willing to push the White House and Congress to support this tiny country in more economic ways, if necessary.

Absolutely!
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 9:42 Comments || Top||

#19  As Billy-Bob would say:
"Y'all done fucked up, now."
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 9:49 Comments || Top||

#20  So where does Israel go from here? They would be foolish to give in to exchange demands. If they do, they will face continued kidnappings forever. Seems to me Israel needs to go forward with this harshly and aggressively. They need to put the fear of God into Iran and Syria and their puppets. Enough screwing around. Islamofacists want Israel destroyed. That is the end goal. They need to act accordingly. The U.S. needs to support this effort completely.
Posted by: Whaling Unomoger7693 || 07/12/2006 10:03 Comments || Top||

#21  Flood your congresscritters offices with this message. Do it NOW, before they commit to a public stance that is 'measured'.
Posted by: lotp || 07/12/2006 10:10 Comments || Top||

#22  So where does Israel go from here?
Take hostages. Send the female relatives of Hezbollah to brothels. It's the Chicago islamic way.
Posted by: ed || 07/12/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||

#23  Nimble

Not saying that this will change the final outcome. We are winning we will win in the end (well as long as we can keep the LLL’s out of power here at home).

What I am saying is we just got flanked on the PR front. A war between the US & Iran would have got some protest from the Arab street and Hezbollah and Hamas strikes after we attacked Iran would have shown them for what they are Iranian/Proxies. But now Iran/Syria will come to the Hezbollah/Hamas/Muslim support.

This will make this war that was coming anyway an Israeli/Muslim WAR. At least on the PR front.

I was going to happen anyway but perceptions are crucial and the perception in the Muslim world will be Israeli/Muslim war with Iran/Syria backing Muslims and the US/willing backing the all hated Jooooos.

We got flanked by Iran. In the name of a useless effort to appease the LLL’s by not taking the initiative and being the aggressor in the coming war we sacrifice the initiative and a HUGE PR advantage to the Iranians. We f*cked up. We will still win but it will now be a lot more bloody and a lot harder than before. Our allies in the ME and Iraq are going to be hard pressed to support the US in a war between Israel & what looks like Muslim world aka Hamas/Hezbollah/Syria/Iran/AQ ect…

I had feared Bush had become so beaten by the LLL’s that he would do this in a useless attempt to appease the LLL’s at the cost of our troops and the war effort. The LLL’s will still blame Bush whether we are attacked first or attack first it was a useless effort but costly one to choose.

I predict before the end of the month Syria and very likely Iran will declare war on Israel. Which of course when Iran sends planes or Missiles through Iraqi airspace we will be at war two? We got flanked and now it’s just a matter of how is Iran going to hit our forces in Iraq directly all out or try to send missiles over the airspace towards Israel?

We allowed ourselves to be Flanked on the PR front.
Posted by: C-Low || 07/12/2006 10:28 Comments || Top||

#24  I recognize that there may be economic downside to this, but, let's be realistic.

Suppose the Canadians came across our border and kidnapped one of our soldiers, or attacked and killed a handful of soldiers and kidnapped two of our soldiers.

Screw the economics! There would be serious hell to pay.
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 10:41 Comments || Top||

#25  Hizbullah's spiritual leader, Sheikh Hassan "Nasrallah, lauded the Hizbullah for the attack in which seven IDF soldiers were killed and two others kidnapped. Speaking at a press conference on Wednesday afternoon, he warned Israel that the Hizbullah would only release the captives in exchange for security prisoners." (Jerusalem Post)

Sometimes it sure sucks to be a soldier. There is only one way Israel should release the requested prisoners - with a time bomb implanted in their guts.
Posted by: glenmore || 07/12/2006 13:16 Comments || Top||

#26  Jerusalem Post

"There were also signs that Egypt was growing impatient with Syria in the crisis. Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak implicitly accused Damascus of wrecking his attempts to mediate a deal for the release of Cpt. Cpl. Gilad Shalit, snatched by Hamas-linked militants on June 25.

Hamas was subjected to "counter-pressures by other parties, which I don't want to name but which cut the road in front of the Egyptian mediation and led to the failure of the deal after it was about to be concluded," Mubarak told Cairo's Al-Ahram Al-Massai newspaper.

Mubarak spoke by telephone Wedneday with Syrian President Bashar Assad and Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Saniora, as well as Jordan's King Abdullah II over the violence. Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit flew to Damascus and met with Assad, the Egyptian news agency said. "

Israel should not try to occupy the entire ME, kill everyone, etc. Israel faces an axis of Iran-Syria-Hezbollah-Hamas. Iran is the strongest, but is beyond Israels ability to take down. Hamas and Hezb are proxies, and subject to manipulation. The weak link, the key, is Damascus. The key is to take actions that will further isolate Damascus. Israel shouldnt send Lebanon back to 20 years, but should threaten to do so, and perhaps take the first steps, to make it clear to any fence sitters in Lebanon the dangers of playing with Hezbollah. And make it clear to the Euros the need to keep the pressure on, in fact to go beyond prior acts, to break Hezbollah, whether Syria accepts that or not. The goal is an empowered Lebanese state that takes full responsibilty for actions on its territory. A lebanon thats moving ahead in Beirut, at the price of free rein for Syria-Iran-Heszbollah in the south, is not acceptable.

And for these reasons AS well as economics, Israel must keep a weather eye on EU opinion. Which theyve largely done so far in Gaza - despite the screaming in the press, if you watch the casualty figures, you can see how restrained this operation has been.


Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/12/2006 15:59 Comments || Top||

#27  and in case anyone misunderstands - when I say "make clear to the Euros" I dont primarily mean verbally. Make clear by threatening their interests in the region. Thats the real meaning of Halutz's statement about sending Leb back 20 years. The Cedar revolution was a big gain for France, in particular, and has given France a new stake in the region. Halutz's statement is basically telling France, that if Israel is not secure, France's interests in Beirut aren't either.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/12/2006 16:03 Comments || Top||

#28  AFP

"Dozens of families were seen leaving some villages and heading to seek temporary refuge at the homes of relatives in Tyre.

"We used to flee directly to Beirut, but now we may not be as welcome because there is no more consensus in Lebanon on Hezbollah's resistance since the Israeli troop pullout from Lebanon in 2000," after 22 years of occupation, said one southern resident.

"Some people now do not want war any more, and they want to disarm the Resistance," he said, referring to domestic calls echoing UN demands for the disarming of Hezbollah
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/12/2006 16:12 Comments || Top||

#29  Given that there's been noprogress in 20 years, Israel should send Damascus back 120 years. No message, no nuance. Utter destruction.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 16:23 Comments || Top||

#30  Good stuff, liberalhawk, thanks. I'm very reluctant to see regular Lebs pay for Hezb because I've long wondered how much the regular guy there actually supported Hezb, if at all. Seems to me they can't resist them because they're well armed, organized, and funded. It would be like trying to resist the National Guard...

But the word "Resistance" (they even capitalized it) is the key, I think. Sure, that came from an article, but when Joe Leb openly calls Hezb terrorists or Iranian thugs, at least, then they'll be ready for their new-found freedom from Damascus.

I hope Israel can do the nearly impossible in the heat of war and differentiate between Joe Leb and Hezb. Failing will guarantee they never drop the BS "Resistance" view. Succeeding will guarantee that eventually they will, or so I believe.
Posted by: Wheager Thromorong1016 || 07/12/2006 16:31 Comments || Top||

#31  "A boycott of Israeli goods, which IIRC has been threatened in the past, would be devastating to that small country."

No chance europe would do such a thingy! ovens and unfair treatment of jews are still in living memory, you'd be amazed at the unspoken support for Israel within the european populace.

Proportional response its what our fathers taught us.
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 07/12/2006 21:06 Comments || Top||

#32  perhaps Europe would like the French Wine Boycott treatment™? It can be arranged, and on a much larger scale. No tourism? No purchases of Euro products? Think twice you sanctimonious asshole antisemites. We can make your economy dive
Posted by: Frank G || 07/12/2006 21:52 Comments || Top||


Breaking: Hezbollah 'seize Israel soldiers'
The Lebanese Shia militant group Hezbollah says it has captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes across the Lebanese-Israeli border. The announcement was made on the group's television channel, al-Manar.

Rockets and mortar rounds were fired from Lebanon towards the Israeli town of Shlomi and at Israeli outposts in the disputed Shebaa farms area.

The shelling was accompanied by automatic gunfire and at least four people were wounded, reports say.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/12/2006 04:04 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Debka reports

Israel and Hizballah forces are battling each other on both sides of the border – at the Yakinton post in the central border sector and around Hizballah positions on Lebanese side. A number of Israelis wounded in battle. The incident was sparked by a Hizballah anti-tank missile attack on an IDF jeep patrolling the border in attempt to abduct the soldiers. The Lebanese terrorists also fired Katyusha rockets at Zarit and Shetula, hitting one house. Six civilians injured in these attacks. Northern Galilee residents ordered to bomb shelters.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/12/2006 4:15 Comments || Top||

#2  The claims appear to be true.
IDF: Two Soldiers Missing Along Northern Border
Posted by: gromgoru || 07/12/2006 4:15 Comments || Top||

#3  According to the Jerusalem Post:

The IDF confirmed Wednesday morning that two soldiers were missing after a Hizbullah attack on the northern border. Hizbullah's Al Manar TV broadcast that the organization had kidnapped two soldiers.

Hizbullah launched a heavy barrage of Katyusha rockets and mortar shells at IDF positions and communities along the northern frontier on Wednesday morning starting about 9:15 a.m. One rocket scored a direct hit on a house in Shtula. Magen David Adom said they were treating four people, one who was in moderate condition and three lightly wounded. All the wounded were being evacuated to Nahariya hospital.

IDF sources estimated that the attack was a Hizbullah response to Israel's early Wednesdayattempted strike on top Hamas terrorist Mohammad Deif in Gaza.

IAF helicopters were returning fire and had reportedly blew up a bridge inside Lebanon.

Residents of the Western Galilee had entered their shelters, and in the community of Shlomi, residents were asked to enter fortified rooms.

The northern border has been on high alert since Operation Summer rains began.

Two weeks ago, IAF planes buzzed Syrian President Bashar Assad's summer palac reportedly while he was in residence. A month and a half ago, Israel launched a massive retaliatory strike after Hizbullah fired a series of Katyushas at Israel.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/12/2006 4:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Damn. I hope this will blow up good, but not in the way hizbollah and hamas wish. So far, the latter is getting what it wants, with the measured and gradual israeli offensive, but this up the ante, and Israel definitively got to respond tenfold to make that counterproductive for theses bastards. I still think retreating out of gaza was a mistake, like the retreat from southern lebanon, I hope the joooos will stop pussyfooting around and hit them hard with targeted helizappings and "defensive shield"-like infrastructure demolishing large scale moves. As for hizbollah and iran, I can't wait for them being smacked into oblivion.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 4:53 Comments || Top||

#5  I hope the Israelis really polish the floor with these asshats - 'til it shines. They won't get these troops back in one piece so they should have some fun taking down the Hamas/Hizb leadership one by one - day by day. Get stuck in.
Posted by: Howard UK || 07/12/2006 5:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Bombing Pencil Neck's palace with him inside would be a nice way to get the ball rolling.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/12/2006 5:08 Comments || Top||

#7  nope. not gonna stop pussyfootin bowt till our pussies tell em to stop. then mebbe...mebbe...we will play tidleeweenks.

where are em fuckin dicks when we need em! >:(
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/12/2006 5:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Syria, Iran, Pakistan. No peace till there are big changes there.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 6:36 Comments || Top||

#9  There's already been heavy fighting, and 7 soldiers have died in the fighting. Thats all the media is reporting. No word on how many Hard-boys are dead, but if the media aren't even mentioning it then must be high.
Posted by: Charles || 07/12/2006 7:01 Comments || Top||

#10  It's time to heavily bomb all major population centers in Lebanon. This is an outright act of war and the response needs to be quick, decisive, and overwhelming.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 07/12/2006 7:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Israeli defence forces are now conducting airstrikes inside lebanon. If the soldiers are not returned Israel voes to turn lebanons clock back 20 yrs... LoL
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/12/2006 7:42 Comments || Top||

#12  Israel needs to take the gloves off and start getting medieval on their asses.
Posted by: djohn66 || 07/12/2006 7:43 Comments || Top||

#13  I think the US should land the Marines in Beirut as 'peace keepers' and start our house cleaning.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/12/2006 8:42 Comments || Top||

#14  I think this is Iran's answer to the nuclear agreement deadline of today...unleash Hezbollah.

If I was the President, I would take this as a "No".

Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 8:43 Comments || Top||

#15  Great point, Sea. This definitely is an escalation on Iran's part. We should do something appropiate, like take out Iran's navy.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/12/2006 8:47 Comments || Top||

#16  On second thought, it's more of a "hell no". I'm not entirely sure that declaring war on Iran is a course open to us today.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/12/2006 9:05 Comments || Top||

#17  It isn't. Which is exactly what Iran is counting on in their use of Hizb'allah.
Posted by: lotp || 07/12/2006 9:38 Comments || Top||

#18  #16 On second thought, it's more of a "hell no". I'm not entirely sure that declaring war on Iran is a course open to us today.
Posted by Seafarious 2006-07-12 09:05

Sea:
We're not serious. I've noticed as well as anyone with an IQ above room temperature, a shift to a more "nuanced" approach to Islamo-Fascism, inaccurately called "terrorism." Tragically, this nuanced approach appears to have de-balled the Israelis as well us. Hamas-controlled Gaza should have been reduced about two weeks ago. Instead, by dithering and blowing up empty buildings, the Israelis have invited this attack today on their northern border. So far, seven IDF troopers are dead, two HUMVEES and one Merkava tank destroyed. Not a good start.

Today’s WAPO reports on the changing shift in treatment accorded terrorists captured on the battlefield. Great! The administration has had to comply with the Supreme Court’s recent catastrophic ruling.

Kim “I’m so rhonely” Ill fires off missile after missile, and what do we do? Head off to the U.N. What lesson is the kook over at Iran learning from this?

Train bombing in India. Will Pakistan’s ISI be held to account? Nope, not anymore than they’ve been held to account for the masses of Taliban-whack-jobs crossing into Afghanistan on a daily basis.

President Bush realistically has two years to run the table on the Axis of Evil. And if the November elections go really, really bad for the Republicans, he’ll be fighting off impeachment charges from the Fifth Column enemy within. Things do not look good.

Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 07/12/2006 9:41 Comments || Top||

#19  Lancasters, loose the negativity, dude.
The American people aren't that dumb any more.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/12/2006 9:49 Comments || Top||

#20  #19 Lancasters, loose the negativity, dude.
The American people aren't that dumb any more.
Posted by wxjames 2006-07-12 09:49

I'm trying wxjames, I'm really trying ... but ...a little more muscle on the warfront will help. How about the IAF following through on its promise to "bomb Lebanon back 20 years"? (Is that all? I was hoping more like back 800 years.)

And then President Bush announcing that he'll take a page out of Andrew Jackson and how Old Hickory told off Justice Marshall. Ahhh, in a more perfect world!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 07/12/2006 10:01 Comments || Top||

#21  LOD, ask yourself this, Would you rather be in Ahnmedinajihad's burka? Things don't look so good from the MM perspoective either; Maliki starting to take on Sadr, Hezhbollah getting defanged, pencil neck getting buzzed, 2 million gallons of $0.35 subsidized gasoline being smuggled into Iraq daily, drug use increasing 10% a year. Things get that way in war time. I'd like to think it's 1945, but it has more the feel of 1938-39.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 10:05 Comments || Top||

#22  I'd like to think it's 1945, but it has more the feel of 1938-39.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-12 10:05

Excellent point, Nimble Spemble. That's exactly how I see it. We're in the beginning phase and unlike December 7, 1941, when the American people en masse recognized the reality of being at war, September 11, 2001's impact did not have the same effect.

Yes, yes, I know, Japan was a nation-state subject to declaration of war and such while A-Qaeda is a stateless entity. However, that's not my point. Something has happened over the last 40 years or so that has produced a situation in which many Americans act as if 9-11 either occurred a million years ago or was a singular, anomalous event.

What happened? No easy answers but I’d like to suggest that we’re in the throes of the 40-year culture war launched by the Leftist counterculture, and though in the past decade or so, patriotic Americans have begun a counter-offensive, the outcome remains in balance. See new book:

John Harmon McElroy’s Divided We Stand: The Rejection of American Culture since the 1960s, Lanham, Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield, 2006

Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 07/12/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#23  Lancasters, "we" may not be serious, but I AM dead serious.
It is almost time for a re run of Law and Order "The FIRST SEASON".

Posted by: newc || 07/12/2006 13:28 Comments || Top||

#24  Disproportionate retaliation has been the most effective means against terrorism. Actual details concerning the numbers of terrorists that Hizbollah sent across the border, are sketchy. The fact that 7 IDF soldiers were killed, suggests hundreds. Every one of those terrorists would have paraded down public streets at one time or another. Instead of letting Hamas and Hizbollah do terror preening, these gatherings of scum should be attacked. The diplomats don't want to see these animals die; I do.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/12/2006 15:38 Comments || Top||

#25  Hezb Allah's sneak attack will be critized a lot even in the UN.

However, I don't understand why the IDF was so poorly prepared for this. Two possible reasons I can think of :

1. the "B" or even "C" team was at the northern border
2. there was an IDF member who provided info to Hizb
Posted by: mhw || 07/12/2006 19:38 Comments || Top||


Israel intensifies airstrikes, death toll at 50
Israel battered the Gaza Strip with more air strikes on Tuesday as the government gave the green light to intensify the offensive that has killed more than 50 Palestinians in a week. A Palestinian security officer was killed and six people were wounded in the latest Israeli air strikes hitting northern Gaza, medical sources said. The dead man was named as Ahmed Shahid.
Very appropriate.
Medics said he was struck by a missile fired towards a car. The army said the attack targeted a vehicle used to get to a rocket-launch site and loaded with rockets in the Beit Hanun area. The air raids — which the Israeli military said targeted rockets and a "cell about to launch them" — came just one day after nine Palestinians died from Israeli fire elsewhere in the impoverished and radicalised Gaza Strip.
Posted by: Fred || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah, the humanity
Posted by: Captain America || 07/12/2006 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  He didn't have no rockets, he was just out for a moonlight drive in the Gaza Strip.
Posted by: Glomosh Jinesing1688 || 07/12/2006 9:44 Comments || Top||

#3  50 after more than a week? The Israelis aren't even trying.
Posted by: ed || 07/12/2006 10:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Paleos: Making "Dumb as a Rock" sound like a compliment.
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#5  "The Israelis aren't even trying"

It's called being civilized. Unlike others in the area.

Woe be it unto all if the Israelis every get really really pissed.
Posted by: kelly || 07/12/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||

#6  I was sort of hoping they had. On to Damascus.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||


Israeli tanks roll into southern Gaza
Israeli tanks and troops moved into southern Gaza early Wednesday in a new phase of a two-week offensive aimed at militants holding a captured soldier and firing rockets, Palestinians and the military said. The Israeli military confirmed its forces were operating in southern Gaza, but gave no details.

On Tuesday, Israeli leaders ordered the army to expand the Gaza offensive, moving into areas of the territory they have not yet entered. Palestinians said they saw Israeli bulldozers leveling farmland and tanks moving across the border near the southern Gaza city of Khan Younis. The military ordered Palestinian security to leave their forward positions in the area. The Israelis have not entered Khan Younis during the current offensive. Before Tuesday, Israeli forces had entered southern and northern Gaza and have approached Gaza City.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his defense minister, Amir Peretz, ordered the new incursions into Gaza after Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal said Monday he would not free the captive soldier, 19-year-old Cpl. Gilad Shalit, security officials said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the operation. Mashaal called Shalit a prisoner of war and demanded a prisoner swap — which Olmert has ruled out.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/12/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "He's dead, Jim."

The poor kid's dead! Admit it already. The only thing the Paleos have to give back is a mouldering corpse.

Plow Gaza under and plant some vineyards.

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 07/12/2006 3:05 Comments || Top||

#2  "There are shortages of food, fuel and essential needs of Palestinian citizens," he told his Cabinet, calling on the United Nations, Arab League, Muslim countries and the rest of the international community to help.

Israel: PA Claims of Hunger are a Lie


Posted by: gromgoru || 07/12/2006 4:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Everything that comes out of the paleomedia machines and its western proxies (I watch lci's reports on that, and it's infuriating, really, and it's not the worst coverage...) is a lie. They're all playing the propaganda war to the hilt, paleos and accomplices, in true subversive leftist fashion.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/12/2006 4:56 Comments || Top||

#4 
"There are shortages of food, fuel and essential needs of Palestinian citizens," he told his Cabinet, calling on the United Nations, Arab League, Muslim countries and the rest of the international community to help.


And we are supposed to cry about it?

Posted by: JFM || 07/12/2006 5:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Anyone noticed that the deafening silence of the nazi-left about the deliberate staving perpetrated against Black sudanese populations, or in fact their deafening silence about anyone else that those whose goal is to exterminate the Jews?
Posted by: JFM || 07/12/2006 5:15 Comments || Top||

#6  "shortages of food, fuel and essential needs of Palestinian citizens,"

I dodn't undesratand why he uses the long "essential needs" instead of the shorter "explosives" who is about the only "essential need" those bastards care
Posted by: JFM || 07/12/2006 5:19 Comments || Top||

#7  The deafening silence is indeed pleasant.
The left has only one goal, and they can't formulate a plan for the greater War on Terror unless their one goal is achieved. Bush
Posted by: wxjames || 07/12/2006 8:52 Comments || Top||

#8  "TS"
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iranian National Security Advisor in Damascus
DEBKAfile reports: Iran’s national security adviser Ali Larijani flies to Damascus aboad special military plane Wednesday night as war tension builds up around Hizballah kidnap of 2 Israeli soldiers. Larijani is also Iran’s senior nuclear negotiator. He will remain in Damascus for the duration of the crisis in line with the recently Iranian-Syrian mutual defense pact. His presence affirms that an Israeli attack on Syria will be deemed an assault on Iran.
Kind of like a Austria-Hungary attack on Serbia was deemed an assault on Russia. And we all know how that worked out.
It also links the Israeli hostage crisis to Iran’s nuclear standoff with the West. The White House released a statement holding Syria and Iran responsible for Hizballah abduction and demanding their immediate and unconditional release.
So, we're playing the part of.....Germany? Better dust off the von Schlieffen Plan, Herr Rumsfeld
The Syrian army has been put on a state of preparedness.
And Belgium Lebanon is nervous.

DEBKAfile’s military sources add that the Iranian air force, missile units and navy are also on high alert.
Mobilization starts, trains begin to roll, I've seen this movie.

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report Hizballah acted on orders from Tehran to open a second front against Israel, partly to ease IDF military pressure on the Hamas in the Gaza Strip. This was in response to an appeal Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal made to the Iranian ambassador to Damascus Mohammad Hassan Akhtari Sunday, July 9.

DEBKAfile’s Iranian sources report Tehran’s rationale as composed of three parts:

1. Iran shows the flag as a champion and defender of its ally, Hamas.

2. Sending Hizballah to open a warfront against Israel is the logical tactical complement to its latest order to go into action against American and British forces in southern Iraq.

3. Tehran hopes to hijack the agenda before the G-8 summit opening in St. Petersberg, Russia on July 15. Instead of discussing Iran’s nuclear case and the situation in Iraq along the lines set by President George W. Bush, the leaders of the industrial nations will be forced to address the Middle East flare-up.
Following in the long tradition of starting a war to avoid solving a problem at home

Any Israeli decision taken at prime minister Ehud Olmert’s high level consultation in Jerusalem Wednesday night must take this turn of events into account before deciding on limited air strikes against Hizballah and Lebanese civil targets without delay.

Our sources also report that immediately after Nasrallah’s statement to the media, Hizballah’s leaders went into hiding, their bases were evacuated and their fighting strength transferred to pre-planned places of concealment. Ahead of the abduction, Hizballah ordnance and missile stocks were transferred to the Palestinian Ahmed Jibril’s tunnel system at Naama, 30 km south of Beirut, which was built in the 1980s by East German engineers.
Manning the Maginot Line, so to speak.
The Israel navy has long tried to smash this coastal underground fortress from the sea without success.

Israel began calling up an armored division, air crews and technicians from the reserves Wednesday night.
Can you say, Blitzkrieg?
DEBKAfile’s military experts: If Israel’s leaders opt for an anti-Hizballah operation on the lines of Operation Summer Rain against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, the IDF can expect the same measure of success as it has had in recovering Gilead Shalit and ending the Qassam missiles barrage.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 16:02 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sigh, third in line. That's what I get for being creative.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 16:36 Comments || Top||

#2  THE GUNS OF AUGUST JULY
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 07/12/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||

#3  THE GUNS OF AUGUST JULY

28 July 1914 : Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia, begins firing on Serbian territory.
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 17:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Kill him.
Posted by: mojo || 07/12/2006 17:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Hezbollah was conceived in 1982 by a group of Muslim clerics after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. It was close to a contingent of some 2000 Iranian Revolutionary guards, based in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley, which had been sent to the country to aid the resistance against Israel.

In 1983, militants who went on to join Hezbollah ranks carried out a suicide bombing attack that killed 241 US marines in Beirut.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 07/12/2006 17:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Nah, I think this is part of a Syrian plan to re-occupy Lebanon. They have Hezbollah precipitate the Israeli action and then Syria comes to the "rescue" to "defend" Lebanon from an Isreali action that Syria itself precipitated in order to justify that re-occupation.

Hey, don't make fun, I am proud of my cynicism.
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/12/2006 17:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Is anyone else thinking 6-day war here?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 07/12/2006 17:43 Comments || Top||

#8  Syria comes to the "rescue" to "defend" Lebanon

So if Lebanon is playing the part of Belgium, will France play itself?
Posted by: Steve || 07/12/2006 17:47 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm thinking 6 year.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 17:52 Comments || Top||

#10  But who would the phrench surrender to?
Posted by: Brett || 07/12/2006 18:09 Comments || Top||

#11  Is anyone else thinking 6-day war here?

I'm thinking it should be a 6-hour war.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/12/2006 18:15 Comments || Top||

#12  I wonder what 6 thinks?
Posted by: 3 legged yeller dawg || 07/12/2006 18:30 Comments || Top||

#13  The trip was planned before the kidnapping. I smell a link.

Rantburg posters aren't happy with IDF operations in Gaza. They could find the rockets, and Hamas and al-JIhad safe houses, etc by using strategic detentions. Seize 100 Palestinians, and at least one will be fed up enough with the leadership, to start pointing fingers. Would that be kidnapping? Not under US law; investigative detentions are legal (Terry v Ohio) as long as the person is held only during investigation. Internationally, short duration custody would probably be acceptable.

I know its frustrating to hold territory where offensive weapons are stashed, while not being allowed to conduct effective searches.

As I have mentioned in other posts, Ahmadinejad has been holding mass anti-Israel rallies all over Iran. Something is in the air.
Posted by: Anginens Threreng8133 || 07/12/2006 18:37 Comments || Top||

#14  What was in the trucks that left Iraq for Syria ahead of the invasion? Where is it now? What does Iran mean when it warns Israel of 'devastating attack from afar'? Is that the sharia-required 'warning'?
This is a set-up that has been waiting some time for a 'trigger' - it is hard to miss the similarities between the assassination of 'one man' by an 'unaccountable' foe in 1914 and the kidnapping in a similar situation in Gaza. Triggers that lead to essentially pre-ordained catastrophe - for one or both sides. I fear there may be no good way out.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/12/2006 19:15 Comments || Top||

#15  "Iranian National Security Advisor in Damascus"
One word: TARGET.
At this point it wouldn't surprise me if he takes the two kidnaped Israeli soldiers back to Iran as human shields for his centrifuges.
Posted by: Darrell || 07/12/2006 19:37 Comments || Top||

#16  I wonder what 6 thinks?
I blame Princip the Joooooooooooooooo!

Not a clue really. Maybe re-establish a temporary IDF presence south of the Litani. Who knows.
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 19:46 Comments || Top||

#17  But who would the phrench surrender to?

les Beurs.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/12/2006 20:03 Comments || Top||

#18  Glenmore's thinking along the same lines as I've been. We don't know what was in those trucks, but I can guess what the Iranians and Syrians WANT it to have been.

Special Mahdi days coming up in a few weeks, too.
Posted by: lotp || 07/12/2006 20:52 Comments || Top||

#19  Once again Iran has manufactured a diversion to keep attention focused away from its nuclear program. Because Ali Larijani will be 'pre-occupied' with the 'crisis' and because he is the one who is to respond to the nuclear package I can see the Iranians with Russian and Chinese help delaying a resolution for at least a month.
Posted by: DanNY || 07/12/2006 22:36 Comments || Top||

#20  Israel has ALWAYS kicked butt in battle. Out come has always been way lop sided in favor of Israel.

Syrai and Iran had better realize, they do not need the wrath of Israel to break out upon their asses.
Posted by: Chulet Thruling5126 || 07/12/2006 22:45 Comments || Top||


Good morning...
Last Somali warlord surrenders to IslamistsCombined Kashmir-Mumbai death toll tops 174China says Japan over-reacts with UN resolutionIsraeli tanks roll into southern GazaIraq RoundupShafei banged near Mosul?Shafei banged near Mosul?Chechen separatists vow continued 'jihad'
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#1  Purrrdy kitty. The headlines, though are not reflecting a purdy state of affairs at all.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/12/2006 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  nope. their not. seein ww3 in abowt 2 yeerz. we'z approchin 1939 abowt now.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/12/2006 2:07 Comments || Top||

#3  She's appropriate for bad news, since she is the tragic yet lovely Marie "The Body" MacDonald
Posted by: Ernest Brown || 07/12/2006 8:23 Comments || Top||

#4  http://edgormanrambles.blogspot.com/2005/12/marie-macdonald.html

This Marie MacDonald? A story too often told.
Posted by: mrp || 07/12/2006 8:28 Comments || Top||

#5  IDF runs risk of not knowing whether coming or going

ROTFL.

Hey wait, am I the only one who reads the RDS&TP for the headlines?
Posted by: Matt || 07/12/2006 12:37 Comments || Top||

#6  The headlines are just a cheap trick to gain readership.
Posted by: 6 || 07/12/2006 15:39 Comments || Top||



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