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2024-12-15 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
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At weekly protest, protesters threaten again to hate PM until he somehow gets Hamas to agree to trade peace for hostages
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The exact details are available for perusal at the link. We care about the externalities here. [IsraelTimes] At weekly rally, hostage’s mom vows to be PM’s ‘worst nightmare’ if son not returned. As optimism rises on possibility of Gaza deal, report says Netanyahu most determined to reach agreement since November 2023 release, but gaps remain between sides
Thousands of protesters rallied in Tel Aviv and other locations Saturday night against the government and for a Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with a rusty iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response ...
hostage release deal, as several news reports cited progress toward a potential deal, and as a television network said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was the most determined he had been in over a year to reach an agreement to free remaining captives.
They used to get 200,000-500,000. This is just the irreducible remnant, paid cadres and unpaid enthusiasts, for whom protesting is their weekly scheduled activity. Some 2,000 people rallied outside the Israel Defense Forces headquarters on Tel Aviv’s Begin Road, as the Hostages and Missing Families Families Forum held its more staid weekly rally a block away at so-called Hostages Square. Both were preceded by an anti-government group rally at the Begin-Kaplan Junction, known by activists as Democracy Square.
The first phase of any deal would likely see the release of only some of the hostages — those defined as humanitarian cases including women, children, sick and older people — as Israel agrees to halt its campaign in Gaza for a limited time. Young men like Zangauker would only be up for release at a later stage, if the sides move toward a more permanent ceasefire.
Saturday’s Channel 12 report said a key dispute between sides in the negotiations was the number of hostages to be freed in a first phase, with Israel determined to release as many as possible.
The disagreement being that Hamas does not want to give up their hostage-human shields. Despite claims to the contrary, they have not yet revealed who among the hostages is living, and who has died or been killed. Possibly — given that at least some of the hostages were handed out like war booty to those not Hamas — they don’t actually know in many cases who is holding them and what their status is. When was the last time we heard about mothers and babies among the hostages? Although Israel has reportedly agreed to a temporary withdrawal from the Philadelphi Corridor along the Egypt-Gaza border, Jerusalem did not confirm or deny the change in position to Channel 12. Netanyahu previously asserted troops must remain in the area to prevent Hamas
..not a terrorist organization, even though it kidnaps people, holds hostages, and tries to negotiate by executing them,...
from smuggling in weapons to rearm, while Hamas has demanded a full withdrawal of Israeli soldiers from the Strip. Security officials have argued Israel could withdraw and retake the corridor at a later time if necessary.
Channel 12 also said mediators were pressing Israel to agree to an all-encompassing deal that would bring the war to an end, rather than a phased agreement.
Ahead of the Saturday night rallies, the brother of hostage Itzik Elgarat urged US President-elect Donald Trump
...So far he's been unkillable, and they've tried....
to press Netanyahu to agree to a deal.
"We believe in your strength to quickly bring about a deal. Don’t let up on Netanyahu, demand a comprehensive deal from him that will return everyone and end the war," Danny Elgarat said alongside other hostage families during their weekly press appearance outside the Kirya military base in Tel Aviv.
The US President-elect’s special envoy for hostage affairs Adam Boehler is set to visit Israel next week for the first time since he was chosen for the role, an Israeli official told the Axios news site Saturday.
Down the road, hundreds of people attended the Hostage Families Forum’s weekly rally at Hostages Square.
The Forum has said any deal needs to bring back all the hostages at once instead of a phased deal that only releases some.
Ahead of that protest, some 1,000 anti-government protesters crammed into the Begin-Kaplan Junction, also known as Democracy Square. Stages were set up there, with speakers perorating against the government in tandem, each with their own take on how it was threatening democracy.
On one stage, set up by a group registering volunteers to engage in non-violent mostly peaceful civil disobedience against the government, a speaker said those signing up would be instructed at a moment’s notice on a location where they were to sit and disrupt traffic, possibly for days on end. He estimated that would come if the government ousts Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara or Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar.
A growing number of coalition politicians and cabinet ministers have called for Baharav-Miara’s ouster due to frustration with her refusal to defend various controversial and unprecedented measures the government seeks to advance, but which she has determined would be against the law.
Netanyahu’s office denied reports last month that he was planning to fire the Shin Bet’s Bar.
Weekly protests also took place in Jerusalem, Haifa, Beersheba and other cities and intersections around the country.
Outside the President’s Residence in Jerusalem, Maayan Sherman, the mother of fallen IDF soldier Ron Sherman whose remains were recovered in January, called on President Isaac Herzog "to not stand on the side and act for the release of hostages now."
According to the Ynet news site, former retired IAF Brig. Gen. Amir Haskel and leading protest figure was arrested in Jerusalem. Police said they arrested a total of four people at the rally in Jerusalem, two for disrupting public order, and two others for trying to prevent police from carrying out one of the arrests.
The Ynet news site reported hundreds of anti-government protesters marching in support of the hostages and against government attempts to revive judicial overhaul legislation in Rehovot, while 1,000 protesters blocked the Karkur Junction in northern Israel.
Meanwhile,
...back at the fist fight, Jake ducked another roundhouse, then parried with his left, then with his right, finally with his chin...
Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi discussed the efforts to reach a deal with visiting US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan and US Middle East envoy Brett McGurk, his office said Saturday. This comes a day after Sullivan told Channel 12 news that regional developments, including the shock collapse of the Assad regime, the ceasefire with Hezbollah in Leb
...an Iranian satrapy until recently ruled by Hassan Nasrallah situated on the eastern Mediterranean, conveniently adjacent to Israel. Formerly inhabited by hardy Phoenecian traders, its official language is now Arabic, with the usual unpleasant side effects. The Leb civil war, between 1975 and 1990, lasted a little over 145 years and produced 120,000 fatalities. The average length of a ceasefire was measured in seconds. The Lebs maintain a precarious sectarian balance among Shiites, Sunnis, and about a dozen flavors of Christians, plus Armenians, Georgians, and who knows what else? It is the home of the original Hezbollah, which periodically starts a war with the Zionist Entity, gets Beirut pounded to rubble, and then declares victory and has a parade. The Lebs have the curious habit of periodically murdering their heads of state or prime ministers...
and Israel’s killing of Hamas leaders, presented an opportunity for a deal to free the 100 captives held in Gaza.
Israel said to reject release of Marwan Barghouti in hostage deal as Egyptian, US officials meet in Cairo
[IsraelTimes] Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sissi discusses efforts to reach a hostage-ceasefire deal in Gaza between Israel and Hamas, Sissi’s office says.
The officials who met Sissi in Cairo include US national security adviser Jake Sullivan and US Middle East envoy Brett McGurk, it says.
The statement comes as Hezbollah-affiliated newspaper Al-Akhbar quotes an unnamed Egyptian official as saying that Israel has objected to some of the names of Palestinian security prisoners requests for release in exchange for hostages kidnapped on October 7, 2023, including popular Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti.
Barghouti is serving five life sentences in an Israeli prison for his part in planning three terror attacks that killed five Israelis during the Second Intifada.
“Israel has a vision of alternative lists of Palestinian prisoners, including people who were recently arrested, which could delay the drafting of the agreement,” the Egyptian source is quoted as saying.
The source adds that Israel has requested that some of the Palestinian security prisoners be sent abroad instead of to the West Bank or Gaza, “which may be accepted by the mediators as a compromise to end this new obstacle.” 
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