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2023-10-01 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Tymoshenko: There would be hundreds of thousands of living people
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Commentary by Russian military journalist Boris Rozhin is in italics.

[ColonelCassad] From Tymoshenko's revelations.

“And, of course, 2008, when I, as Prime Minister, submitted an application for Ukraine to join NATO, for the provision of an action plan for membership in the alliance. And if then they had listened to my proposal and Ukraine would have been given an action plan for NATO membership "If Ukraine had opened the doors to NATO membership in 2008, there would be no war today. Today Europe would be in peace, there would be hundreds of thousands of living people and today there would not be the consequences of the tragedies that all of Europe is feeling today , and the whole world from the war that is happening in Ukraine."

Video already is translated into English
The desired moment at 07-14:


Another factual recognition of the huge losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which are measured in hundreds of thousands. Now there are estimates from 300,000 to 400,000 irrevocable losses.
My best guess is that those numbers are inflated by a factor of two. They come from retired US Colonel Douglas MacGregor, and from his contacts within the Russian and European military greybeard community.

All that said, my other best guess is that the Ukrainian casualty numbers for the Russian military are inflated by a factor of at least seven.

These people would be alive if not for the Euromaidan and NATO expansion to the east. Otherwise, hundreds of thousands more will die.

Posted by badanov 2023-10-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top

#1 European military greybeard community

Sides with Russia?

p.s. IMO, when Russians talk about Ukrainian casualties they mean both dead & POWs - methinks they've plans for POWs.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-01 00:44||   2023-10-01 00:44|| Front Page Top

#2 How many of them were sympathetic to the Soviet Union, back in the day?
Posted by trailing wife 2023-10-01 01:25||   2023-10-01 01:25|| Front Page Top

#3 #2 How many of them were sympathetic to the Soviet Union, back in the day?

(1) None. That military TW - they were preparing to fight Soviet Union.

(2) RF is not Soviet Union. More lime Russian state in 16-17 centuries.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-01 02:19||   2023-10-01 02:19|| Front Page Top

#4 USA & allies engaged in bear baiting since the collapse of Soviet Union. Ukraine volunteered to be one of the dogs.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-01 09:12||   2023-10-01 09:12|| Front Page Top

#5 Mexican mother shields son from bear crashing birthday party, devouring tacos on picnic table
Posted by Skidmark 2023-10-01 18:10||   2023-10-01 18:10|| Front Page Top

#6 ^ I get it. I love tacos
Posted by Frank G 2023-10-01 18:34||   2023-10-01 18:34|| Front Page Top

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