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2023-07-14 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Suffered for the truthful report -- UPDATED
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Commentary by Russian military blogger Andrey Chervonets

"... The enemy at the front could not defeat us, but our senior authorities stabbed us in the back, treacherously and vilely ..." (c)

Commander of the 58th Army of the Southern Military District (SMD), Major General Ivan Popov with the call sign " Spartak stated that he was suspended from service after his report on problems in the army.

According to the general, the reason was that he frankly outlined the existing problems to the senior army authorities: "The moment has come when it was necessary to be cowardly and keep silent and say what they wanted to hear, or call a spade a spade."

Popov reported on the absence of counterbattery combat and artillery reconnaissance stations, which leads to mass deaths of military personnel from enemy artillery, that a rotation of fighters is needed, who over and over again repel attacks on the front line in the Zaporozhye direction.
The introduction of the drone into the modern battlefield has changed artillery target acquisition, perhaps forever. The Russian MoD is struggling to integrate drones with its current massed fires doctrine, which conceivably could wind up changing that doctrine.
Due to the refusal of the senior authorities, he was rumored to have announced that he would directly report to the Supreme Commander. After that, this authorities issued an order in one day and simply got rid of Popov.

According to most opinions of military personnel, the general was a good commander, he has a very high authority at the front. The 58th Combined Arms Army has been successfully repulsing the enemy offensive in the Zaporozhye direction for more than a month. Those same heroic 291st, 70th and 71st Motorized Rifle Regiments are part of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division, 58th Army. The enemy suffered the greatest losses precisely by killing about the position of the units of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division.

The deputy is General Gurulev, who published the appeal of General Popov, this is the former commander of the 58th Army. And he knows the situation in his 58th army very well. Knows the mood in the troops.

After Prigozhin's march, the "witch hunt" began, and again the principle "stated the problem - the enemy" was at the head of the table. And why does the management need a truthful report? If there are no truthful ones, you can wave reports with a calm soul and proudly declare that everything is fine. Therefore, the system gets rid of people who tell the truth, so as not to interfere with bravura reports upstairs.

I wonder who Gerasimov is going to fight with? Surovikin simply disappeared from the radar, Popov was fired on the same day... Will the comfortable generals win obsequiously shuffling across the parquet? Or like Lapin, on the road with a pistol at the head of a platoon?

Talented generals often have a sharp character and are inconvenient for superiors, but they should be in command of combat operations.
Hard to argue that.
It seems that the system did not draw the right conclusions from Prigozhin's march.

Prigozhin turned out to be very right in criticizing the system created by the unsinkable Shoigu and Gerasimov, but turned out to be wrong only in the methods by which he tried to shout to the Supreme. Didn't yell. He just doesn't want to hear.

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In continuation of the post "Suffered for a truthful report,"

Let me remind you that Major General Ivan Popov was removed from command of the 58th Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District of the Russian Armed Forces after a report to the authorities on the accumulated issues in the system of the Ministry of Defense and a promise to personally report them to the Supreme...

If the deputy, Lieutenant General Gurulev - by the way, the former commander of the 58th Army - had not posted Major General Popov's appeal, then we would not have known that the army commander was removed for objectively describing the existing problems.

So here's a comment on that:

"Many have noticed the obvious - Popov is now following in the footsteps of Prigozhin. And this is true, the path has been laid and there is no turning back. So the Kremlin will not be able to "not notice." And there is nowhere to retreat. The fact is that , as in the case of Prigozhin, and even earlier Teplinsky, the conflict with the leadership of the Moscow Region is getting out of control WITH THE BEST. And this says everything about the system, more precisely about the struggle of two systems in the military, and the need for systemic change.

Popov is not at all public, no one knew about him until yesterday, so it is difficult to accuse him of vanity and political ambitions, like Prigozhin (however, who knew Prigozhin before the SVO, who heard his voice or saw his face? The systemic conflict works like this , does not extinguish, but turns everything out). Turchak placed accents in this matter.

But the fact is that Popov's 58th Army shows itself during the Ukrainian offensive as the most heroic and effective.

But it's not just about efficiency. The point is in a different approach to command and control of troops in principle - Popov and Gerasimov and Shoigu. The first (like Prigogine) - with his "gladiators", in the trenches.

The second - on the parquet, and from there they "gesture without looking." The first - recognizes the problems, is open to modernization and communication with society, the second - are tightly closed in principle. Testimony: The man (Popov) tried to solve the problem of supply, including personally interacting with volunteers. He did not imitate, did not pretend, did not speak arrogantly from above, but tried to decide seriously. Seriously. For real. And one more example: the shock platoons /UAV companies that have already shown themselves so clearly in business appeared in the troops solely on the initiative from below , contrary to army authorities.

And so, instead of immediately scaling this successful experience to all units, the initiative began to be extinguished by the army bureaucracy. Would it surprise anyone that the famous kamikaze UAV strike company belongs to the legendary 42nd Division, and this division is part of Popov's 58th army? And the bureaucrat who is dissatisfied with this initiative - Gerasimov?

We are witnessing a conflict between the two systems in the army (and in the state as well). It will no longer be possible to extinguish it and sweep it under the carpet."

P.S.
They say that Surovikin is allegedly in a boarding house. He rests so much that he didn’t even come to his daughter’s birthday. Or maybe it would be time for Surovikina FROM the boarding house, and Gerasimova To the boarding house, but for a longer time, he deserved it. And then a person works tirelessly, but you also need to rest. No?

But seriously, the fact is that Surovikin disappeared somewhere, and that official sources do not report any information about his whereabouts. This in itself is suggestive. If there was nothing to hide, then they would clearly and clearly print where Surovikin is and what he does. And that is very good information when they list that he is not in such and such a pre-trial detention center. So list all the pre-trial detention centers in the country that he is not there.

Stalin would not have won the Great Patriotic War if he had left his friends dashing cavalrymen of the 20s Voroshilov and Budyonny at the head of the Red Army, and they removed Zhukov, Rokossovsky and other best ones. But Stalin was the right leader and with balls. Now I do not see such a leader.

There is simply no hope that GDP will sort out the situation, such hope is completely absent. If he wanted to figure it out, he would have figured it out a long time ago. Apparently he does not have the desire or any qualities for this.

More on Surovikin from regnum.ru
PMC denied reports of Surovikin being in Matrosskaya Tishina

Reports that General Sergei Surovikin was allegedly in Matrosskaya Tishina were denied by Alexei Melnikov , executive secretary of the Public Monitoring Commission (ONC) of Moscow . He wrote about this on July 13 in the Telegram channel.

“This week I visited SIZO-6 (women's detention center. - Ed.), SIZO-1/77 (Matrosskaya Tishina), SIZO-1/99 (Kremlin Central) and SIZO-4. They clarified according to Surovikin. There is none,” he wrote.

Melnikov indicated that he was surprised that Ukrainian journalist Anatoly Shariy and some Telegram channels continue to claim otherwise.

At the same time, Melnikov added that the general, apparently, is not in any other place of detention, since this fact, according to him, would be very difficult to hide.

As IA Regnum reported, on June 30, Melnikov denied reports that Surovikin was in the Moscow Lefortovo detention center, as The Financial Times claimed. He stressed that the general is not in other pre-trial detention centers either.

Prior to this, the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov forwarded the question of the general's whereabouts to the Ministry of Defense. The Kremlin spokesman stressed that this is the prerogative of the defense department.

At the same time, Peskov called publications in some media speculation and gossip that Surovikin could have known in advance about an attempted armed rebellion. He stressed that after the incident there will be a lot of fakes.

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Commander of the 58th Army removed from office after reporting on its problems

The commander of the 58th Army of the Southern Military District, Major General Ivan Popov, said that he was removed from his post after he reported to the leadership about the problem with counter-battery combat and the absence of an artillery reconnaissance station, as well as the mass death of the Russian military.

The appeal of the commander of the 58th Army of the Southern Military District (SMD), Major General Ivan Popov, was published tonight in his Telegram channel by State Duma deputy, former deputy commander of the SMD Andrey Gurulev.

“I was removed from my post <…>. He called all things by their proper names, drew attention to the most important tragedy of modern warfare - this is the lack of counter-battery combat, the absence of an artillery reconnaissance station and the mass death and injury of our brothers from enemy artillery. other problems, spoke about it at the highest level, frankly, extremely harshly," Popov said in an audio address.

According to him, after the report, an order was drawn up on his removal from service on behalf of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. "I'm waiting for my future military fate, its changes, receiving some proposal for further service," Popov added.

According to the source, Popov delivered a report to Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov, Kommersant reported.

The "Caucasian Knot" also wrote that Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of Wagner PMC, has repeatedly criticized the Russian Defense Ministry. On May 4, he released a video message to Sergei Shoigu and Valery Gerasimov , in which he announced a shortage of ammunition and demanded their immediate supply.

On June 23, Prigozhin accused the Russian Ministry of Defense of shelling the rear positions of PMCs and promised to look into it. On the morning of June 24, the center of Rostov-on-Don, near the command building of the Southern Military District (SMD), armored personnel carriers and vehicles of the National Guard appeared. A criminal case was initiated against Prigozhin for incitement to an armed rebellion.

Prigozhin announced that he had taken control of military facilities in Rostov-on-Don. Later it became known that after negotiations between Prigozhin and President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko, the Wagner PMC fighters left  Rostov-on-Don for their field camps.

After the start of the military operation in Ukraine, the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, also repeatedly criticized the Ministry of Defense, but later, on the contrary, began to support the actions of the department. You can read more about this in the reference of the "Caucasian Knot" "How Kadyrov Quarreled and Reconciled with the Ministry of Defense".

From the V Kontakte page of Holy Rus' from Daniil Ivaschenko, General Popov's full statement.

Appeal of the commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District of the Russian Armed Forces, Major General Ivan Popov, to his soldiers.

"Good night, my beloved Gladiators, beloved, relatives, one family. So I had to gather my thoughts, a lot of events happened in the last two days. Now we can already say this with confidence.

I was ordered removed from my post. Here, I am waiting for my further military fate, its changes, some proposal for further service.

I have been honest with you from the very beginning. I have been frank with you. I shortened the distances with all the gladiators from the soldier to the marshal in our case. Because the same, equally scary for everyone, the same, it hurts and hard for everyone. ... was always honest, as much as possible from the first day of arrival in our army.

Therefore, I tell you honestly, a difficult situation arose with the senior authorities, when it was necessary either to remain silent from cowardice and say what they wanted to hear, or to call a spade a spade.

In the name of you, in the name of the dead of all our combat friends, I had no right to lie, therefore, I outlined all the problematic issues that exist today in the army. On combat support work, he called all things by their proper names, drew attention. On the most important tragedy of modern warfare.

This is the absence of some kind of battery struggle, reconnaissance and a mass of death, mutilation of our brothers. from enemy artillery. He also raised a number of other issues. At the highest level, frankly, extremely hard.

With this, apparently, the senior commanders felt some kind of danger and swiftly in one day of light, concocted an order from the Minister of Defense, got rid of it.

As many commanders of regiments and divisions said today, our army could not be penetrated from the front. We were hit from the rear by our senior commander, treacherously and vilely, decapitating the army at the most difficult and tense moment.

I stay in touch constantly for all soldiers and sergeants, ensigns of the army for everyone absolutely 24/7 any problems, domestic, family, rear, combat, absolutely any problems. We continue to work in the group. I am always available to you. It is an honor for me to stand with you in the same ranks. I am proud, I cherish and will do everything in my power even more so that it is easier for you to fight and as many of our comrades as possible remain alive. The main thing is in the name of those who will never return from the battlefields. In the name of their memory, in the name of the shed blood of soldiers and officers in Zaporozhye

We are obliged to defeat the enemy with you, to repel his offensive, to create conditions for subsequent actions. And thus, to honor the memory of our fallen comrades, your Spartak is always in touch with you."

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