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2005-03-10 Europe
Spain Muslims Issue Fatwa Against Bin Laden
MADRID, Spain (AP) -- Muslim clerics in Spain issued what they called the world's first fatwa, or Islamic edict, against Osama bin Laden on Thursday, the first anniversary of the Madrid train bombings, calling him an apostate and urging others of their faith to denounce the al-Qaida leader.

The ruling was issued by the Islamic Commission of Spain, the main body representing the country's 1 million-member Muslim community. The commission represents 200 or so mostly Sunni mosques, or about 70 percent of all mosques in Spain.

The March 11, 2004, train bombings killed 191 people and were claimed in videotapes by militants who said they had acted on al-Qaida's behalf in revenge for Spain's troop deployment in Iraq.

The commission's secretary general, Mansur Escudero, said the group had consulted with Muslim leaders in other countries, such as Morocco - home to most of the jailed suspects in the bombings - Algeria and Libya, and had their support.

"They agree," Escudero said, referring to the Muslim leaders in the three North African countries. "What I want is that they say so publicly."

The fatwa said that according to the Quran "the terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his organization al-Qaida ... are totally banned and must be roundly condemned as part of Islam."

It added: "Inasmuch as Osama bin Laden and his organization defend terrorism as legal and try to base it on the Quran ... they are committing the crime of 'istihlal' and thus become apostates that should not be considered Muslims or treated as such." The Arabic term 'istihlal' refers to the act of making up one's own laws.

snip. So how come none of our "moderate" American Muslims have done this?
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-03-10 8:09:14 PM|| || Front Page|| [12 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "...Osama bin Laden and his organization... should not be considered Muslims..."
That puts him in the bin with us. That's just dandy.
Posted by Tom 2005-03-10 8:26:50 PM||   2005-03-10 8:26:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 All this does is label the persons making the Fatwa as "non-muslims" who should be killed along with the rest of the unbelievers.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-03-10 9:20:13 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2005-03-10 9:20:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mrs. Davis, itsa 'strong horse' thing. Escudero apparently got a hold of recent polls and seeing the OBL support is on decline, felt safe enough to fatwa'd him.

Let me translate:

He's a moderate, meaning he's for a gradual replacement of infidels (other ways are not practical and are delusional). OBL's and AQ dangerous approach made people pay attention to Islam creed and possibly damaged its image for good. Apostasy, conversion from Islam are on rise, while the young radicals get themselves killed. A lot of people now know what taqiyya means. It may take a generation to let them forget, if ever.
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-10 9:35:54 PM||   2005-03-10 9:35:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Let the Battle of the Fatwas™ begin. Ima sittn ths one out......
Posted by Al-Aska Paul  2005-03-10 10:09:26 PM||   2005-03-10 10:09:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I'd have to go along with 1,2,3...I've lost my virginity on the whole "peaceful religion".
Posted by Whaick Wheper8676 2005-03-10 10:13:44 PM||   2005-03-10 10:13:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Looky here:

"The Commission has also drawn up a document designed to 'thank the Spanish people and the government for their attitude towards Muslims' since last March 11, in particular for not taking 'disproportionate' measures similar to those which the Sept 11 attacks sparked in the US."

You can put on the Golden Fleece, but a tapeworm still remains underneath.
Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-10 10:24:01 PM||   2005-03-10 10:24:01 PM|| Front Page Top

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