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2020-05-05 Home Front: Politix

What's the Real Story Behind Continuing Lockdowns?

Sometimes, the dog barks
[PJ Media] In March, Americans started to stay at home in what began as a voluntary movement. Governments issued lockdowns and stay-at-home orders, but Americans understood the threat of the Wuhan Chinese coronavirus from China was significant enough to take drastic measures. Thanks to these measures, America’s health care system was not overwhelmed by the global pandemic, and Americans across the country are demanding an end to the lockdowns.

Embattled Democratic governors are defending extended coronavirus lockdowns by citing the all-important "science." Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-Mich.), for example, told CNN, "The fact of the matter is, we’re in a global pandemic. This isn’t something we just negotiate ourselves out of and it’s a political matter. ... I am going to continue to do my job regardless of what tweets come out or what polls come out or what people think makes sense. We’re going to listen to facts and science because we’ve got to get this right."

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Posted by Frank G 2020-05-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11145 views ] Top

#1 Social distancing probably made next to no difference.
With on average 30% of people testing +ive for the antibodies, this virus has already been and gone and is just "tidying up".

With the Oz govt saying download the contact tracing app or we'll continue the covid house-arrest scheme and the actual lack of excess mortality this is looking like an excuse to squeeze the populace.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-05-05 03:36|| 2020-05-05 03:36|| Front Page Top

#2 I see the whole CV19 story as a competition among two schools hysterics. One side indulges in pandemic hysterics, the other in economic doom mongering.
Both rely on epidemiological/economic models that should've been washed down the toilet long time ago.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-05 03:48|| 2020-05-05 03:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Still, when the virus goes thru a nursing home with extremely high rates of infection and death, you wish the carrier had stayed the hell away.

Posted by Mercutio 2020-05-05 08:39|| 2020-05-05 08:39|| Front Page Top

#4 What grom said.

And I'd add the biggest lesson I've learned is that the right cannot be counted on for ANYTHING that involves the least bit of sacrifice. The idiots who keep whining about "the boogaloo" are the most disgusting, because their dream of a civil war would make all of this look like a golden age.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2020-05-05 08:58|| 2020-05-05 08:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Not so fast, g. Your side's foolish models predicted 2 million deaths. We won't even reach 1/20th of that scaremongering, absurd forecast which has since been ignominiously dropped.

Your doomsayers then and proceeded to impose crude, draconian, over-hasty, inconsistent and incompetent measures toward anyone and everyone -- as opposed to targeted measures aimed at the elderly and those in nursing homes who serve them. Critics such as myself along with Federal Teserve economists and every other economist predicted, correctly, that this crude, broad-brush approach would cause mass unemployment and destroy millions of livelihoods. Fact: we now have NEARLY 30 MILLION UNEMPLOYED. That's not the product of your hypothetical bullshit Imperial College model but empirical FACT. The Department of Kabir's U-3 measure for claimed benefits stood at 16 million as of April 11 -- and the number of new claims each week has been in the 4 million range, so we're now at the unbelievable, catastrophic level of ca. 28 million people claiming unemployment benefits. The actual total number of unemployed is even higher.

And the numbers of people whose lives are being destroyed by this overreaction - healthy people under 65 who pose no risk to themselves or to any elderly person - these numbers of destroyed lives are still increasing because of the petulant, capricious, completely unscientific decisions of little fools like De Blasio and Whitmer and Newsom.

This foolish overreaction is already destroying the livelihoods of TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans who were never at risk.

The devastation is vast, and it's measurable with solid, accepted techniques that all can see and that are -- unlike your COVID numbers-- consistently and professionally applied to yield accurate data. This damage was needless and it's already here.

Stop moving the goalposts. Don't play Whitmer with us.

Posted by Lex 2020-05-05 10:08|| 2020-05-05 10:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Department of Labor's Unemployment Insurance Weekly Claims Data, April 30, 2020

Posted by Lex 2020-05-05 10:11|| 2020-05-05 10:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Take a bromide, Lex.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-05 10:26|| 2020-05-05 10:26|| Front Page Top

#8 De Blasio says NYC won't completely reopen until September despite declining deaths and hospitalization rates

Posted by Skidmark 2020-05-05 10:55|| 2020-05-05 10:55|| Front Page Top

#9 Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the first' as states ease lockdown and fears US does not have resources to handle it

Posted by Skidmark 2020-05-05 11:03|| 2020-05-05 11:03|| Front Page Top

#10 Miami Beach park closes just five DAYS after reopening as almost 9,000 people decide to ignore the mayor's request for parkgoers to wear face masks

Posted by Skidmark 2020-05-05 11:07|| 2020-05-05 11:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Things to do during lockdown...

‘Absolute searing pain!' Wildlife show presenter screams in agony as he shows what it's like to be stung by huge 'murder hornets' invading the US

Posted by Skidmark 2020-05-05 11:19|| 2020-05-05 11:19|| Front Page Top

#12 Hundreds of furious protesters descend upon the Massachusetts State House to demand the end of coronavirus lockdowns as organizers compare 'lousy' COVID-19 to the seasonal flu

Posted by Skidmark 2020-05-05 11:26|| 2020-05-05 11:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Newsome is moving to enlist and train a 20,000 person "army"...his words - to help trace and track down and quarantine possible Covid-19 cases. How long will this take? And once implemented, how long does one suspect will Gavin's Gestapo be in service? Meanwhile, Dems are all in Vote by Mail.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2020-05-05 11:42|| 2020-05-05 11:42|| Front Page Top

#14 The left is pushing for mail-in voting, a rich opportunity for them to engage in voter fraud.

Posted by JohnQC 2020-05-05 11:43|| 2020-05-05 11:43|| Front Page Top

#15 Not Gestapo but the Italian fascisti equivalent.

The Boy Governor isn't even in Himmler's league. He's a pomaded, pompadour'd little Mussolini wannabe.

Posted by Lex 2020-05-05 11:52|| 2020-05-05 11:52|| Front Page Top

#16 @bright pebbles. With on average 30% of people testing positive

Maybe NYC and some prisons are up to that level, but it appears everywhere else is 1% to 10%. In other words, the vast majority hasn’t been exposed yet.

Refer to the testing in Santa Clara, CA.

Posted by KBK 2020-05-05 12:21|| 2020-05-05 12:21|| Front Page Top

#17 If we don't open up we'll never get herd immunity and we will get a massive second wave. We should have started the slow open at Easter as Trump originally planned. Each area could judge their own hospitals to determine if they are being overwhelmed and then open up some more.

This whole thing stinks. Its as if the flatten the curve was forgotten or misunderstood by our leaders and their sheep.

Posted by rjschwarz 2020-05-05 12:22|| 2020-05-05 12:22|| Front Page Top

#18 If we don't open up we'll never get herd immunity

I'm willing to wait for the vaccine.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-05 12:24|| 2020-05-05 12:24|| Front Page Top

#19 Stop the US gravy train and it’ll get interesting.

Posted by Klem Kadiddlehopper 2020-05-05 12:46|| 2020-05-05 12:46|| Front Page Top

#20 Its as if the flatten the curve was forgotten

NO, that's why they like skinny models.

Posted by Skidmark 2020-05-05 12:48|| 2020-05-05 12:48|| Front Page Top

#21 Take a bromide, Lex.

A bromide won't buy his groceries.

Has anyone noticed the way all the TV personalities keep saying stupid things like "We're all in this together." or "We'll get through this together."? Somehow that rubs me the wrong way. I don't really feel much togetherness with local TV newscasters. For the most part I've stopped listening to them but sometimes Mrs. Uluque turns on the TV and I can still hear it. Sometimes they do these supposedly heartwarming stories about food banks but will they themselves pay the rent and buy groceries for all of the people who are out of work? And who wants to take that kind of charity instead of working and providing for themselves? What small businessman wants to take a loan from the government that will keep him in debt for the next several years? And if he never pays it back then guess who gets stuck with it? What do the TV people really mean when they say these things?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-05-05 13:22|| 2020-05-05 13:22|| Front Page Top

#22 They're testing the limits of compliance.

So far, they like what they're seeing.

Posted by charger 2020-05-05 13:22|| 2020-05-05 13:22|| Front Page Top

#23 ^ yep

Posted by Rex Mundi 2020-05-05 13:31|| 2020-05-05 13:31|| Front Page Top

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