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2020-02-20 Europe
Hanau: 'Several dead' in mass shooting in Germany
[BBC] Several people are dead following a shooting in the western German city of Hanau, local media report.

Eight people were killed and five others injured when an unknown attacker opened fire on a shisha bar in the centre of the city.

There are also reports of a second shooting at another shisha bar, in a different part of Hanau.

Officials say the suspects fled the scene and are currently at large, Bild newspaper reported
I am posting this mainly in the hope that EC can keep us updated.
Since this was a late posting, I’m rolling it over with the BBC updates and Deutsche Welle and Daily Mail below. The BBC updates as of 12:38 a.m. ET on 20 February
The suspect was found dead at his home, along with the body of a second person, according to police.

There appeared to be no other perpetrators, they added, and said the investigation was ongoing.

The motive for the attack is unclear.

Bild newspaper reported that the suspect was a German citizen with a firearms licence, and that ammunition and gun magazines had been found in his car.

The first shooting was at a bar in the city centre, while the second was in Hanau's Kesselstadt neighbourhood.

They sparked a seven-hour manhunt, while officers searched for what they thought could have been multiple gunmen.

The suspect killed three people at the first shisha bar, Midnight, before driving to the Arena Bar & Cafe and shooting dead another five victims, regional broadcaster Hessenschau reported.

The initial death toll was eight, but this was raised to nine in the early hours of the following morning after one of the wounded victims succumbed to their injuries.
Deutsche Welle adds:
NEAR MISS FOR LOCAL RESIDENT
Speaking to DW’s Rebecca Staudenmaier in Hanau, 49-year-old Ali Mengucek recounted the events before the shootings.

Mengucek, who has lived in the area for the last 40 years, said he was walking home with his two children when he saw four men ‐ "all quite tall and fairly young," perhaps 40 or under.

He said they were standing in groups of two, about 30 meters apart . He walked in between them, telling his two girls to pick up the pace.

"I live about 50 meters past where they were standing. When I got home and shut the door, then I heard the six shots. I believe this was six or seven minutes after I had walked past with my two little children. I then opened the window, people were running back and forth and screaming. Within about five minutes, police were on the scene," Mengucek said.

About two hours later he spotted ammunition on the road and reported it to the police.

Hanau is a city of 100,000 inhabitants in the state of Hesse, some 25 kilometers (15 miles) east of Frankfurt.

Related: Courtesy of Skidmark, the Daily Mail has the usual here, and adds:
Local reports said Turkish or Kurdish people were among the victims at the bars.
Moslem colonists it is — good find, Skidmark!
Posted by Matt 2020-02-20 18:27|| || Front Page|| [14 views ]  Top
 File under: Moslem Colonists 

#1 Sorry, mods, I hosed the highlighting. Only the last line is me.
Posted by Matt 2020-02-19 18:33||   2020-02-19 18:33|| Front Page Top

#2 No problem, fixed
Posted by Frank G 2020-02-19 18:41||   2020-02-19 18:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Thanks, Frank.
Posted by Matt 2020-02-19 18:43||   2020-02-19 18:43|| Front Page Top

#4 There isn't really much new info. Seems that two different shisha bars were targeted. 8 people are confirmed dead. Reasons still unknown.

Last update 15 minutes ago says that the hunt for the killers is still on. Bild had reported an arrest which doesn't seem to be true.

It may be speculation on my part but I think a conflict between gangs (which may be of oriental origin) is more likely than a Neo Nazi attack.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-02-19 19:06||   2020-02-19 19:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Anti-Narrative so MSM to cover this (with a pillow)
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-02-20 03:57||   2020-02-20 03:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Just a lone wolf, no reflection on other Germans. That's the line, amirite?
Posted by Frank G 2020-02-20 05:11||   2020-02-20 05:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Probably brexit related?
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-02-20 07:20||   2020-02-20 07:20|| Front Page Top

#8 Nahhh, must be Gülenists.
Posted by Raj 2020-02-20 07:53||   2020-02-20 07:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Merkel, establishment weigh in (Guardian)

"We're not saying it's Nazis... oh, wait, of course we are! IT'S NAZIS! Quick, citizens, bring in your kittens and puppies before they're trampled by the goosestepping hordes... OF NAZIS!"
Posted by Spanky Slinens4859 2020-02-20 08:04||   2020-02-20 08:04|| Front Page Top

#10 They found a manifesto of the shooter... right wing extremist, but of the tin foil wacky conspiracy theory kind.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-02-20 08:14||   2020-02-20 08:14|| Front Page Top

#11 And speaking of Kulenists, and baloney, and making sausage... after decades of misguided snobbery, looks like I've found my spirit cold-cut. Thanks, Skidmark.
Posted by Spanky Slinens4859 2020-02-20 08:14||   2020-02-20 08:14|| Front Page Top

#12 The Beeb is now saying the guy is a far-right extremist. Once again, it's amazing how quickly a shooter's motive can be determined if his name is not Mahmoud.
Posted by Matt 2020-02-20 08:24||   2020-02-20 08:24|| Front Page Top

#13 ...but, but mass shootings only happen in America. I was told so by so many media talking heads.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-02-20 08:30||   2020-02-20 08:30|| Front Page Top

#14 German neo-Nazi 'terrorist' who shot nine dead before killing his mother and himself was a far-right conspiracy theorist who believed in aliens, mind control and secret US bases where children are sacrificed to Satan
Posted by Skidmark 2020-02-20 11:14||   2020-02-20 11:14|| Front Page Top

#15 The rise of the German far-Right: How the 2015 migrant crisis sparked surge for right wing parties, hate crimes... and now another fatal terror attack
Posted by Skidmark 2020-02-20 11:15||   2020-02-20 11:15|| Front Page Top

#16 He also accuses President Donald Trump of stealing his ideas.

“A billionaire in the USA is implementing my policy recommendation (even some slogans I developed like ‘America First, Buy American and Hire American’,)” the manifesto states.
Posted by European Conservative 2020-02-20 11:18||   2020-02-20 11:18|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm hearing Nigel Farage on LBC radio on the net and the subject of the talk for the next presenter, Ian Dale, is "Why are Far Right terror attacks on the increase and what can be done to stop them"..hmmm...oh, Merkel said about the same thing..that old sow..raised in East Germany and raised by a Lutheran Vater..and she's from Hambrug originally!!

From Wiki

Religion played a key role in the Kasner family's migration from West Germany to East Germany.[28] Merkel's paternal grandfather was originally Catholic but the entire family converted to Lutheranism during the childhood of her father,[24] who later studied Lutheran theology in Heidelberg and Hamburg. In 1954, when Angela was just three months old, her father received a pastorate at the church in Quitzow [de] (a quarter of Perleberg in Brandenburg), which was then in East Germany. The family moved to Templin and Merkel grew up in the countryside 90 km (56 mi) north of East Berlin.[29]
Posted by Unosh Hupinelet8756 2020-02-20 18:46||   2020-02-20 18:46|| Front Page Top

#18 I'm hearing Nigel Farage on LBC radio on the net and the subject of the talk for the next presenter, Ian Dale, is "Why are Far Right terror attacks on the increase and what can be done to stop them"..hmmm...oh, Merkel said about the same thing....raised in East Germany and raised by a Lutheran Vater..born in Hamburg and..

From Wiki

Religion played a key role in the Kasner family's migration from West Germany to East Germany.[28] Merkel's paternal grandfather was originally Catholic but the entire family converted to Lutheranism during the childhood of her father,[24] who later studied Lutheran theology in Heidelberg and Hamburg. In 1954, when Angela was just three months old, her father received a pastorate at the church in Quitzow [de] (a quarter of Perleberg in Brandenburg), which was then in East Germany. The family moved to Templin and Merkel grew up in the countryside 90 km (56 mi) north of East Berlin.[29]
Posted by Unosh Hupinelet8756 2020-02-20 18:48||   2020-02-20 18:48|| Front Page Top

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