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2019-12-11 Home Front: WoT
3 victims named in Jersey City shooting attack, mayor says mkt. 'targeted'
See also here. Follow up to yesterday’s report of events.
[JPost] An eyewitness has confirmed that two of the civilians murdered in Tuesday's Jersey City shooting attack are members of the local Chassidic community: Leah Minda Ferencz, who owned the store with her husband, and Moshe Deutsch, 24, Chabad.org reported. A third victim was identified earlier as veteran police officer Joe Seals, father of five, by the mayor of Jersey City, Steven Fulop.

The attack is now being investigated as a hate crime. According to Fulop, those who opened fire in a Jewish supermarket on Tuesday "targeted the location they attacked."

...The officers arrived at the kosher market where suspects opened fire with long guns, according to ABC News. At least one suspect allegedly continued firing at responders as they retreated.
I don't know if it belongs in WOT, but - until we know more ...
48 hour rule
I'll take frequently used Islamic names for $600. Alex.
Update from the Daily Mail at 11:25 a.m. ET:
Jersey City shooter posted anti-Semitic bile online before going on 'targeted' rampage with FEMALE partner in stolen U-Haul that ended in deadly siege at Jewish supermarket
  • Francine Graham and David Anderson opened fire on Detective Joseph Seals at 12.30pm in a cemetery in Jersey City

  • Anderson had been a member of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement made famous by the Covington Catholic High School kerfuffle

  • Before the rampage he had published anti-Semitic and anti-police posts on social media

  • Seals was investigating the murder of livery cab driver Michael Rumberger, who was found dead on Saturday

  • After killing the cop, the gunmen drove a stolen U-Haul to JC Kosher Supermarket nearby

  • They then barricaded themselves inside with a large amount of ammunition and engaged in a two-hour shootout with police and SWAT teams

  • It ended with SWAT teams ramming the storefront; once they got inside, they found the two gunmen dead and three innocent people also killed
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-11 02:46|| || Front Page|| [11142 views ]  Top

#1 Nothing yet on the identity of the shooters.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-11 05:52||   2019-12-11 05:52|| Front Page Top

#2 Bomb. Long Gun. Cop killed.

There is no way it's not an antisemitic if not terrorist attack. Now they'll brush it away as a 'hate crime'. Riff-raff try not to kill cops. They do their gang thing and throw down their weapons to surrender.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-11 05:55||   2019-12-11 05:55|| Front Page Top

#3 (Reuters) - Police in the New York metropolitan area were put on high alert to protect Jewish neighborhoods after an hours-long gunbattle with two men around a Jersey City kosher market that killed six people, authorities said.

Reuters link.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-11 06:01||   2019-12-11 06:01|| Front Page Top

#4 A coincidence, or was the Yeshiva the intended target ?

Up to 100 children were held in the yeshiva (an Orthodox Jewish elementary or secondary school) next to the market.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-11 06:07||   2019-12-11 06:07|| Front Page Top

#5  MORE
Chaim Deutsch, a councillor in nearby New York City, tweeted on Tuesday night that “evidence indicates that this attack was motivated by antisemitism.”

He continued: “This is horrifying. Jews have been attacked, beaten, & killed, simply because of our religion.”

Jersey City mayor Steven Fulop said the initial investigation suggested the kosher store had been targeted.

“I know the entire Jersey City community stands together with the Jewish Community during these challenging times,” he tweeted.

Posted by 3dc 2019-12-11 06:14||   2019-12-11 06:14|| Front Page Top

#6 The Bayonne high school has received a threat warning.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-11 06:15||   2019-12-11 06:15|| Front Page Top

#7 Rabbi Moshe Schapiro, co-director of Chabad of Hoboken and Jersey City, said the kosher store is located next door to "a small, yet visible, synagogue.”
Posted by 3dc 2019-12-11 06:15||   2019-12-11 06:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Six people including at least two Strictly Orthodox civilians were killed on Tuesday after a gun rampage across a New Jersey town ended with two gunmen barricading themselves inside a kosher supermarket.

Two of the victims inside the building were named as members of the Chasidic community: Leah Mindel Ferencz, of Jersey City, who owned the kosher store with her husband, and Moshe Hirsch Deutsch, 24, from Brooklyn.

The violence broke out when police were pursuing the gunmen in connection to a separate murder investigation.

One of them opened fire at an officer, killing him, before they both fled in a stolen rental truck and driving a mile to Jersey City’s Greenville neighbourhood, where dozens of Chasidic families have relocated in recent years.

Three civilians were killed in the hours-long gunfight with police that followed. Hatzalah paramedics were among those responding to the stand-off.

Local politicians said the attackers deliberately targeted the JC Kosher Supermarket on Martin Luther King Jr Drive.
Posted by 3dc 2019-12-11 06:16||   2019-12-11 06:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Initial shooting site, Bayview – New York Bay Cemetery. Were shooters attempting to set up an ambush, but were discovered by officer in plain clothes ?

The cemetery contains a section which is an early Jewish burial ground, unique to Hudson County.

Link
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-11 06:28||   2019-12-11 06:28|| Front Page Top

#10 A coincidence ?

Pensacola NAS Base Shooter Visited New York City Before Attack: Official

Investigators believe the gunman visited New York, including Rockefeller Center, days before the shooting, a U.S. official told the AP on Sunday
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-11 06:43||   2019-12-11 06:43|| Front Page Top

#11 OK, lets do some figuring.
If it were Muslims, it would be mystifying crime instead of hate crime.
If it were whites, we would have their names + (carefully) selected parts of their social media postings by now.
So, it's gotta be "Illegal Americans" or "African Americans".
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-11 06:46||   2019-12-11 06:46|| Front Page Top

#12 suggested the kosher store had been targeted.

They didn't like the gefilte fish?

I'm not a betting man but I bet that "abdul" and/or muhammed were involved.
Posted by AlanC 2019-12-11 06:52||   2019-12-11 06:52|| Front Page Top

#13 /\ So, it's gotta be "Illegal Americans" or "African Americans". Posted by g(r)omgoru

Well there is some heartburn in the historically Wacandan neighborhood over the rise in members of the Jewish community moving into the area.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-11 06:55||   2019-12-11 06:55|| Front Page Top

#14 Paging Al Sharpton to the courtesy phone.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-12-11 07:50||   2019-12-11 07:50|| Front Page Top

#15 Media Islamaphobia* concerns in 5, 4, ....

* Islamaphobia - a term without a referent, since a phobia is defined as an irrational fear,
Posted by Mercutio 2019-12-11 08:45||   2019-12-11 08:45|| Front Page Top

#16 The 26/11 Mumbai attack was a cluster strike. It featured an attack on a south bombay chabad house, as well as other spectacles in public places. The chabad house was one of the primary directions given to the elements by their handlers in Pakistan. They covered considerable distance on foot with weapons to get there, skipping other targets like malls and restaurants. So we know that according to their target selection parameters, a chabad house or even a jewish family gathering ranks higher than say, a VVIP or high density commercial area.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-11 09:45||   2019-12-11 09:45|| Front Page Top

#17 A coincidence ?

Gosh, why just the other day someone (Hi, Dron!) was suggesting we would see a coordinated spate of "incidents" in the very near future.

Based on the names, or lack thereof, I'm going with Wakandans at the moment.
Posted by SteveS 2019-12-11 11:10||   2019-12-11 11:10|| Front Page Top

#18 Gosh, why just the other day someone (Hi, Dron!) was suggesting we would see a coordinated spate of "incidents" in the very near future.

I'm going to guess....gentrification.
Posted by swksvolFF 2019-12-11 11:31||   2019-12-11 11:31|| Front Page Top

#19 The 26/11 Mumbai attack was a cluster strike.

Based on the Daily Mail update, I think this was intended to be one, too. The calm approach to the shop suggests the attack was planned, and the large amount of ammunition suggests that after a massacre of all in the shop, they would have moved on to the nearby synagogue and school. Thank goodness the beat cops jumped in right away and stopped them there.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-12-11 12:09||   2019-12-11 12:09|| Front Page Top

#20 Insensitive ass.
Posted by Skidmark 2019-12-11 13:28||   2019-12-11 13:28|| Front Page Top

#21 Black Hebrew Want-a-bees
Posted by 3dc 2019-12-11 14:27||   2019-12-11 14:27|| Front Page Top

#22 Jersey City shooting update:
Shooters were David Anderson and Francine Graham.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-11 14:45||   2019-12-11 14:45|| Front Page Top

#23 That face is not just of a crazy. He's got mercenary eyes. It's a man who thinks for himself, watches his own back. The woman seems a tool.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-11 15:35||   2019-12-11 15:35|| Front Page Top

#24 Like Zimmerman, a white hispanic black
Posted by Frank G 2019-12-11 19:01||   2019-12-11 19:01|| Front Page Top

#25 Good you can see it Dron.
Posted by Skidmark 2019-12-11 22:02||   2019-12-11 22:02|| Front Page Top

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