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2019-12-07 Home Front: WoT
Day 2: Saudi king orders security services to cooperate with U.S. in probe of Florida shooting, six Saudis arrested near base, manifesto posted on Twitter
Yesterday’s events can be seen here.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia’s King Salman told U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday he has directed his security services to cooperate with U.S. authorities investigating the deadly shooting at a Florida military base and assured him the "perpetrator of this heinous crime" does not represent the Saudi people.

King Salman expressed "his sorrow and grief" over the shooting, the Saudi embassy in Washington said in a statement after a phone call between the two leaders.

"His Majesty affirmed that the perpetrator of this heinous crime does not represent the Saudi people, who count the American people as friends and allies," the statement said. The king "directed Saudi security services to cooperate with the relevant American agencies to uncover information that will help determine the cause of this horrific attack."

Six Saudis are arrested over Pensacola naval base shooting including three who FILMED the attack by countryman who killed three and wounded eight before being shot dead - as FBI probes terror link

[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Shooting took place on base early Friday morning, sparking a lockdown

  • Sources identified the suspected gunman as Saudi Air Force aviation student Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, who was armed with a hand gun

  • As of Friday evening, six Saudi nationals were detained near the base for questioning

  • It's reported that three of them filmed the shooting as it happened

  • Rep Matt Gaetz, a Republican representing Pensacola, called the shooting 'an act of terrorism'

  • President Trump tweeted that King Salman told him 'the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter...'

  • Three other people were shot and killed during incident inside classroom building on base
The Saudi Air Force trainee who killed three and injured eight when he opened fire at a naval base in Florida on Friday assailed the United States as 'a nation of evil' just before his shooting rampage, AFP reports.

The man, identified as Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, opened fire inside a classroom at Naval Air Station in Pensacola early Friday morning. Police quickly responded to the scene and he was shot dead.

Alshamrani was a second lieutenant attending the aviation school at the base. The Pentagon say his training with the US military began in August 2016, and was due to finish in August 2020.

On Friday evening, the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors jihadist media, claimed they had tracked a Twitter account belonging to Alshamrani which featured a disturbing tweet written just hours before the shooting.

'I'm against evil, and America as a whole has turned into a nation of evil,' the tweet read.

'I'm not against you for just being American, I don't hate you because your freedoms, I hate you because every day you supporting, funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity,' Alshamrani wrote.

ABC News reported that investigators were working to determine if if the tweet was in fact written by the shooter.

The Twitter account that posted the manifesto - which also condemned US support for Israel and included a quote from Al-Qaeda's deceased leader, the Saudi Osama bin Laden - has now been suspended.

In recent weeks, 18 naval aviators and two aircrew members from the Royal Saudi Naval Forces were training with the US Navy, including at Pensacola, according to a November 15 press release from the Navy. It was not clear if the suspected shooter was part of that delegation.

The delegation came under a Navy program that offers training to US allies, known as the Naval Education and Training Security Assistance Field Activity.

A person familiar with the program said that Saudi Air Force officers selected for military training in the United States are intensely vetted by both countries.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11147 views ]  Top

#1 Ok, Mohamhead, tell us everything you know or we hand you over to the Saudis and look the other way for a little while.
Posted by gorb 2019-12-07 02:36||   2019-12-07 02:36|| Front Page Top

#2 "I'm not against you for just being American, I don't hate you because your freedoms, I hate you because every day you supporting, funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity"

Gosh, it's almost as if bombings don't work and just create more terrorists. It's been 18 yewrs. If it was going to work, it would have worked by now. Time for a new strategy.

Withdraw our troops from the Middle East. We don't need their dirty oil any more. We are self-sufficient and produce more than Saudi Arabia today. Let those camel fuckers drown in their own shit.

Bomb them with money instead. I'm talking about loose pallets of US currency of all denominations, pushed out of the back of C-17s over towns and rural areas, It would work better and cost less than what we're spending on endless war right now. Moreover it would stop breeding more terrorists and those people would be alive today.

What we're doing today isn't working. Let's win this and get the troops home.
Posted by Herb McCoy  2019-12-07 02:37||   2019-12-07 02:37|| Front Page Top

#3 ESAD, Herb.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2019-12-07 02:45||   2019-12-07 02:45|| Front Page Top

#4 And we HAVE "bombed them with money". Doesn't matter -- they're ordered to hate us by the demons they worship.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2019-12-07 02:46||   2019-12-07 02:46|| Front Page Top

#5 4 years of training????
Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2019-12-07 03:20||   2019-12-07 03:20|| Front Page Top

#6 'I'm not against you for just being American, I don't hate you because your freedoms, I hate you because every day you supporting, funding and committing crimes not only against Muslims but also humanity,' Alshamrani wrote.

He was democrat! Who knew ?
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-07 03:30||   2019-12-07 03:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Gosh, it's almost as if bombings don't work and just create more terrorists.

Are you for real ? Bombings in Saudi Arabia ? The USA has created disenfranchised, victimized youth in Saudi fuccking Arabia ?!

Seriously, come clean. You can't be this naive. You just don't mean well, do you ?
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-07 04:21||   2019-12-07 04:21|| Front Page Top

#8 King Salman expressed "his sorrow and grief" over the shooting

Sorry Salman, "sorrow and grief" won't work anymore. Let us read about his family disappearing.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-07 04:27||   2019-12-07 04:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Three of the hijackers from 9/11 had the addresses on their driver’s licenses listed as being at NAS Pensacola. Fifteen of them were Saudi nationals, all backed by Bin Laden.

The real crime here is that saudi nationals or any fucking muslims were even allowed near aviation bases after 9/11.

It's not like the sheikhs in Riyadh would have whined about 'treatment' after what happened. A nation loses thousands in an attack, people understand if you can't trust them. But politicians never even tried. The first really masculine thing was done by Trump when he called for a blanket ban on muslim immigrants.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-07 04:29||   2019-12-07 04:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Forget the "heroism." How about some focus on security, or lack thereof? Fort Hood? Anyone in gov't remember MAJ Nadal Hasan? Hello, hello ?

NAS Pensacola commander on 'heroism' and being 'devastated' after deadly shooting
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-07 04:45||   2019-12-07 04:45|| Front Page Top

#11 Nidal. Nidal Hassan, Anwar Awlaki's cyber whore.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-07 04:50||   2019-12-07 04:50|| Front Page Top

#12 And whom might Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani's "cyber whore" be ?
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-07 04:56||   2019-12-07 04:56|| Front Page Top

#13 "Bombings in Saudi Arabia ?"

No, bombings in the Muslim world. As the man literally says. Has nothing to do with specific countries of the Westphalian variety.

The US has created victimized youth all over the Umma, which this Saudi acted on behalf of. It's like if someone started killing Iowans, and you'd be like, "well I'm from Pennsylvania so I don't care." We're all Americans.

Can people not see this? I'd think after 18 years of war we'd know things like this.
Posted by Herb McCoy  2019-12-07 05:13||   2019-12-07 05:13|| Front Page Top

#14 This story about evil and war and angst maybe their new mindfuck which they reckon will work on our mentally soporose jurists.

I will venture further to say that someone in the vetting process has probably let not one but several Alshamranis through.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-07 05:15||   2019-12-07 05:15|| Front Page Top

#15 The US has created victimized youth all over the Umma

WTF ?

[sung to a disco rhythm now]

The taqiyah is slippin' ♫ off my head,
I'd rather say this, be happily dead...
♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
'Muricans ! Bane of the world.
What are we good for, anyway ?
♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
Thou shall not dope, shalt enlist;
but we got our own ray-ray-rainbow list ? ♪
♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
We don't need it, nobody does.
But we'll bear it, wear it,
absolutely nightmare ♪it...

... until it goes ! ♫ UMMA UMMA UMMA ♫
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-07 05:35||   2019-12-07 05:35|| Front Page Top

#16 Since we know who they are, and where they are staying, it really is too bad there are not intelligence community programmes in place to contact and possibly monitor these foreign military exchange persons.

[sarc off]
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-07 05:42||   2019-12-07 05:42|| Front Page Top

#17 We need a new General Sherman. Plus salt the earth.
Posted by Beau 2019-12-07 06:00||   2019-12-07 06:00|| Front Page Top

#18 Trolling B Herb
Posted by Frank G 2019-12-07 06:52||   2019-12-07 06:52|| Front Page Top

#19 The mistake since the Beirut Barracks - well before 911 -- is being too PC correct and targeting troops instead of mullahs.
Posted by 3dc 2019-12-07 08:10||   2019-12-07 08:10|| Front Page Top

#20 Planned attack being video recorded by other Saudis. Can you say felony murder conspiracy?
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-07 08:29||   2019-12-07 08:29|| Front Page Top

#21 Planned attack being video recorded by other Saudis. Can you say felony murder conspiracy?

I can say "Arabs".
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-12-07 08:31||   2019-12-07 08:31|| Front Page Top

#22 well, our 'Umma' is civilization
Posted by Bob Grorong1136 2019-12-07 08:48||   2019-12-07 08:48|| Front Page Top

#23 A) Muslim consider themselves part of a group called 'the Umma', which is their global faith community

B) Many Muslims yearn for that 'Umma' to unite and have its own state (the Caliphate); the issue being that beyond that they agree on very little; on how to apply Sharia, what form the government should have etc.

C) In any case, there is a sense of belonging which could meet the criteria. Therefore, they could be considered a nation, much like Jews are considered and many consider themselves part of the Jewish nation.

D) So, once we see those that see themselves part of the Umma and that this Umma should have its own state as a nation, you can understand the frustration of some people with this whole deal. I would have expected Rantburgers of all people to know all of this already, but I guess not.

Le sigh.

Posted by Herb McCoy 2019-12-07 09:20||   2019-12-07 09:20|| Front Page Top

#24 Bin Herb is saying that the porKoranic teaching to convert threw terrorism, enslavement the world to Dhimmitude or flat out murder us all has nothing to do with muslim terrorism?

But giving cash to fund jihad a good idea? Which by the way is why Barry should be charged with treason.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (Satan, etc.). So fight you against the friends of Shaitan (Satan)"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them.

I've always enjoyed reading Herb's views on a number of topics. Unfortunately sinners can repent but stupid is forever.

Please Herb, on this, the December 7th, feel free to go directly to Florida and then Pearl Harbor. Explain to the murdered victims families how it's all our fault for fighting back, to stand for freedom.

Piece of pork be upon you.
Posted by Woodrow 2019-12-07 09:54||   2019-12-07 09:54|| Front Page Top

#25 May the p*ss and sh*t of monkey and pigs be upon him (Mo, not Herb...)
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-07 10:01||   2019-12-07 10:01|| Front Page Top

#26 Sorry Woodrow, December 7th is when Herb bunks on the couch with his current Haruki Murakami book and complains that America has always started wars over oil.
Posted by swksvolFF 2019-12-07 10:47||   2019-12-07 10:47|| Front Page Top

#27 Let them hate, so long as they fear.

Posted by SteveS 2019-12-07 11:00||   2019-12-07 11:00|| Front Page Top

#28 As Ed McMahon said in a Johnny Carson skit "Too dumb to be scared, sir..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-07 11:06||   2019-12-07 11:06|| Front Page Top

#29 #9 What Dron said.

Re Mr. McCoy, Herb may have the wrong diagnosis but I'm not sure I disagree with the prescription: We need to detach ourselves from the Magic Kingdom. It's causing us nothing but grief.

Maybe time to give Offshore Balancing a try?
Posted by Lex 2019-12-07 11:15||   2019-12-07 11:15|| Front Page Top

#30 If Adam Schiff had a mustache...
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-07 11:35||   2019-12-07 11:35|| Front Page Top

#31 FBI will soon announce Mo Saheed and his coharts "have been on the FBI's radar for several months now."
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-07 11:45||   2019-12-07 11:45|| Front Page Top

#32 Its funny how we "fight" this war on terror with one hand behind our back and insistence on civilized behavior. How many 9/11s will it take until we say "enough" and decide to obliterate that black rock at Mecca and take out the leaders of those Islamic shitholes?
Posted by Crusader 2019-12-07 15:19||   2019-12-07 15:19|| Front Page Top

#33 Mark Esper is saying 'not terrorism.' Larger thing in play here ? Appeasement of saudis or reeling in someone like the fellow students and associates ?
Posted by Dron66046 2019-12-07 16:14||   2019-12-07 16:14|| Front Page Top

#34 Some Saudi Honcho vouched for him and the others. Should be a field trip (one way) to the Empty Quarter
Posted by Frank G 2019-12-07 17:00||   2019-12-07 17:00|| Front Page Top

#35 I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Posted by Silentbrick 2019-12-07 17:07||   2019-12-07 17:07|| Front Page Top

#36 Send them all back to the Magic Kingdom, every last one of them. Tell them "sorry, you're no longer welcome here."

We're out of Schlitz. No visits, no visas, nothing. You have 48 hours !
Posted by Besoeker 2019-12-07 17:12||   2019-12-07 17:12|| Front Page Top

#37 ^ I was thinking of what Washington DC asshole vouched. Send the boosh DNA to the Sun.
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-07 17:16||   2019-12-07 17:16|| Front Page Top

#38 Problem, #36 is they buy jet fighters from us. Training is part of the package.
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-12-07 17:18||   2019-12-07 17:18|| Front Page Top

#39 bin herb was the best
Posted by chris 2019-12-07 18:23||   2019-12-07 18:23|| Front Page Top

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