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2019-02-27 India-Pakistan
Pakistan says it shot down 2 Indian warplanes, shut down its airspace
[FoxNews] Tensions between two of the world's nuclear powers were raised dramatically Wednesday after Pakistan's air force said it shot down two Indian warplanes that crossed the disputed Kashmir border and captured each of the aircraft's pilots.

Police officials in Indian-occupied Kashmir told Reuters two Indian pilots and a civilian on the ground died when the planes crashed. The officials did not confirm the planes were shot down by Pakistani forces.

Raveesh Kumar, a spokesman for India's Ministry of External Affairs, also claimed an Indian plane shot down a Pakistani fighter jet -- although Pakistan denied any of its jets had been hit and photographic evidence had yet to emerge.
Posted by Spot 2019-02-27 08:37|| || Front Page|| [10326 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Pakistan 

#1 Sounds like two kids.

"I got you!"
"Nuh-uh! I got you!"
"No you didn't!"
Posted by DarthVader 2019-02-27 09:02||   2019-02-27 09:02|| Front Page Top

#2 India acknowledged the loss of a MIG-21 which crashed in Pakistan controlled territory. Pakistan claims to have captured the pilot of that aircraft.

It seems the other plane (probably also a MIG) went down in Indian controlled territory and the casualties reported are from that crash.
Posted by lord garth 2019-02-27 09:58||   2019-02-27 09:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Mig-21s... flying museums.
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2019-02-27 10:43||   2019-02-27 10:43|| Front Page Top

#4 It's amazing to me how little MSM coverage this is getting. I suppose actual journalism would be required.
Posted by Matt 2019-02-27 10:50||   2019-02-27 10:50|| Front Page Top

#5 ....but, but TRUMP!

We don't have 'news' organizations. Infotainment propaganda mills of the commies, but no news organizations.

The appropriate old Soviet saying - There is no truth in the news and no news in the truth.

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-02-27 11:55||   2019-02-27 11:55|| Front Page Top

#6 The Times of India is liveblogging here. Mostly stuff politicians said, but still.

The Daily Mail’s article on the subject has been updating here.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-02-27 12:29||   2019-02-27 12:29|| Front Page Top

#7 #4. Denver Post covered it with about 12 column inches.
Posted by Large Gurly-Brown3231 2019-02-27 13:17||   2019-02-27 13:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Will Dhimmicrats denounce India attacking its Muzzie neighbor as raccccist!
Posted by Woodrow 2019-02-27 13:31||   2019-02-27 13:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Weren't for Rantburg, I wouldn't even know.

Mig-21s? Ah, the vaunted Dust Bunny Squadron.
Posted by swksvolFF 2019-02-27 13:54||   2019-02-27 13:54|| Front Page Top

#10 India's Mig 21 were rebuilt in Israel. They are not Stalin's Mig 21s
Upgrade your Air Force on the cheap
Posted by 3dc 2019-02-27 18:52||   2019-02-27 18:52|| Front Page Top

#11 India also operates an extensively upgraded version of the antiquated MiG-21 called the Bison, which has proven to be surprisingly effective—if crash prone. With their upgraded Phazotron Kopyo radar—which is capable of simultaneously tracking eight targets—the Indian MiG-21s are able to attack targets beyond visual range with Russian-made Vympel R-77 radar-guided missiles.

The Indian MiG-21s also incorporate helmet mounted cueing systems and the ability to carry the R-73 Archer dogfighting missile. That combination makes the aged jet a formidable adversary close in even against a much more modern aircraft. In fact, the Indians MiG-21s fared well even against Boeing F-15C Eagle during a Cope India exercise in 2004 —granted the U.S. Air Force was operating with restrictive rules of engagement.

However, while the Romanian and Indian MiGs were upgraded with new avionics, not much was done to upgrade their airframe structure. But conceivably, the even the ancient MiG-21 would still be viable with a refurbished airframe and cutting edge avionics. While no nations has opted to do that, Israel made a deal to supply fourteen refurbished and extensively modernized Israel Aerospace Industries F-21 Kfir fighters to Argentina—which is also a forty-year-old platform. The airframe is being completely refurbished to an almost “new” state and the aircraft’s General Electric J79 turbojets will be supplied in a “zero-hour” condition after a complete overhaul, according to my colleague Arie Egozi at Flight International. An engine replacement/overhaul would be required after 1,600 flight hours.
Posted by 3dc 2019-02-27 18:53||   2019-02-27 18:53|| Front Page Top

#12 You may Discuss and chat #india and #Pakistan #War and #Venezuela in chat on #Discord

#venezuelan-crisis-2019
Posted by newc 2019-02-27 19:24||   2019-02-27 19:24|| Front Page Top

#13 What were the Pakistani airplanes or were the Indian planes shot down by ground to air missles?
Posted by Deacon Blues 2019-02-27 20:02||   2019-02-27 20:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Dog Fight. One of both shot down
Posted by newc 2019-02-27 20:36||   2019-02-27 20:36|| Front Page Top

#15 ....but but dog fights are a thing of the past or so I was told.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-02-27 21:18||   2019-02-27 21:18|| Front Page Top

#16 You heard wrong.
Posted by newc 2019-02-27 21:55||   2019-02-27 21:55|| Front Page Top

#17 newc how do i get into your discord server?
Posted by rammer 2019-02-27 22:52||   2019-02-27 22:52|| Front Page Top

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