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2017-11-05 -Lurid Crime Tales-
'At least 27 people killed' at a Texas church
[Daily Mail, Where America Gets Its News] At least 27 people have been killed inside a Texas church - including a two-year-old child - after a gunman dressed in full combat gear opened fire during the morning service before cops shot him dead.
No word if it's a nut or an Islamist. Since it's a church, I'm leaning toward nut.
The shooting happened at the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs, where around 50 people usually attend service, according to local reports.

Wilson County Commissioner Albert Gamez Jr told CNN that at least 27 people have been killed in the shooting, but the corpse count is expected to climb.

'My heart is broken,' Gamez said. 'We never think where it can happen, and it does happen. It doesn't matter where you're at. In a small community, real quiet and everything, and look at this, what can happen.'

At least 24 others were maimed in the horrific shooting. Witnesses said a man 'in full gear' walked inside the church and opened fire just before 11.30am.
Posted by Fred 2017-11-05 15:56|| || Front Page|| [11138 views ]  Top

#1 MONA Is It Coulter's law?
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 16:44||   2017-11-05 16:44|| Front Page Top

#2 My money on BLM or Antifa.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-11-05 16:58||   2017-11-05 16:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Word is it's a guy named Chris Ward that killed his family before attacking the church. Apparently a local. Betcha either a divorace and/or taking something for mental issues that pushed him off the deep end.
Posted by Silentbrick 2017-11-05 17:29||   2017-11-05 17:29|| Front Page Top

#4 But that's unconfirmed so don't take it as fact yet. They also are saying that services typically had 50 people or so.
Posted by Silentbrick 2017-11-05 17:30||   2017-11-05 17:30|| Front Page Top

#5 My money on BLM or Antifa

I don't think BLM or Antifa could find Sutherland Springs Texas even if they knew about Google maps.
Posted by jpal 2017-11-05 17:32||   2017-11-05 17:32|| Front Page Top

#6 Touche
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-11-05 17:33||   2017-11-05 17:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Latest says he's not from the area....so we probably won't really know for a few hours.
Posted by Silentbrick 2017-11-05 17:35||   2017-11-05 17:35|| Front Page Top

#8 Not chris Ward but NYT says Devin P. Kelley
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 17:37||   2017-11-05 17:37|| Front Page Top

#9 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/us/church-shooting-texas.htmlTexas Church Shooting Leaves at Least 25 Dead, Official Says
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 17:37||   2017-11-05 17:37|| Front Page Top

#10 When good people with guns showed up (police) the cowatd ran. Typical loser.
Posted by Threatch Jeamp8135 2017-11-05 17:44||   2017-11-05 17:44|| Front Page Top

#11 A wiki of the perp
Posted by phil_b 2017-11-05 17:52||   2017-11-05 17:52|| Front Page Top

#12 
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 17:58||   2017-11-05 17:58|| Front Page Top

#13 Who the hell is Devin Patrick Kelley?
Posted by KBK 2017-11-05 17:59||   2017-11-05 17:59|| Front Page Top

#14 https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-patrick-kelley-idd-as-sutherland-springs-church-killer
Posted by KBK 2017-11-05 18:10||   2017-11-05 18:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Devin Kelley: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

“US Air Force E1 (2010-2014) He received a dishonorable discharge He was court martialed in May 2014.”
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 18:30||   2017-11-05 18:30|| Front Page Top

#16 Hopefully they'll quit mentioning these peoples' names and showing their photos. They must know by now the bastards are just doing it for the fame.
Posted by jpal 2017-11-05 18:32||   2017-11-05 18:32|| Front Page Top

#17 Kelley, 26, was a resident of New Braunfels, a suburb of San Antonio, according to public records. Kelley was married and his mother-in-law listed a P.O. box in Sutherland Springs as a mailing address.
Posted by phil_b 2017-11-05 18:36||   2017-11-05 18:36|| Front Page Top

#18 Twitter posts linking him to Antifa.
Posted by phil_b 2017-11-05 18:39||   2017-11-05 18:39|| Front Page Top

#19 Fox just said the "suspect was engaged by a local with a rifle which caused him to drop his weapon and flee."
Posted by Besoeker 2017-11-05 18:48||   2017-11-05 18:48|| Front Page Top

#20 Does dishonourable discharge and court-martial remove rights to own firearms??

Also... He was Atheist who taught at bible Schools. According to some screenies i see (may be fake)
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 18:53||   2017-11-05 18:53|| Front Page Top

#21 Does dishonourable discharge and court-martial remove rights to own firearms??

regardless, a Special and General courts martial conviction makes it a federal felony. Thus one convicted in such a court is a felon and not eligible to own guns. It's that felony thingy that the feds in Chicago are using to prosecute gun crimes there.
Posted by Procopius2k 2017-11-05 19:06||   2017-11-05 19:06|| Front Page Top

#22 SALTTexas Rangers: Armed Citizen ‘Engaged’ Killer, Ending Rampage

Today's mass shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas, was only halted after an armed Texan "engaged" the killer and put an end to the rampage, the Texas Rangers reported.

Freeman Martin, a major in the Texas Rangers and a spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety, says the suspect dropped his rifle and fled after being confronted by a local man who had grabbed his rifle.

Freeman provided a timeline of the tragedy in a press briefing Sunday evening.

"At approximately 11:20 this morning a suspect was seen at a Valero gas station in Sutherland Springs, Texas," Martin said. "He was dressed in all black. That suspect crossed the street to the church, exited his vehicle and began firing at the church."

"That suspect then moved to the right side of the church and then continued to fire," he continued. "That suspect entered the church and continued to fire. As he exited the church, a local resident grabbed his rifle and engaged that suspect. The suspect dropped his rifle, which was a Ruger AR assault-type rifle and fled from the church."

"Our local citizen pursued the suspect at that time," Freeman went on. "A short time later as law enforcement responded that suspect right at the Wilson/Guadalupe County line crashed out and was found deceased in his vehicle. At this time we don’t know if it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound or if he was shot by the local resident. We know he’s deceased in the vehicle. "

The suspected killer is being reported as Devin Patrick Kelley. However, Freeman would reported, "The suspect has not been completely identified. We believe he’s a young white male, maybe in his early 20s. He was dressed in all black, tactical type gear and was wearing a ballistic vest."

/SALT
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 19:16||   2017-11-05 19:16|| Front Page Top

#23 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922

(d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person—

(6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 19:35||   2017-11-05 19:35|| Front Page Top

#24 Well, this'll have the "good guy with a gun is just a myth" brigade grinding their teeth:

Today's mass shooting in Sutherland Springs, Texas, was only halted after an armed Texan "engaged" the killer and put an end to the rampage, the Texas Rangers reported.
Freeman Martin, a major in the Texas Rangers and a spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety, says the suspect dropped his rifle and fled after being confronted by a local man who had grabbed his rifle.
Freeman provided a timeline of the tragedy in a press briefing Sunday evening.
"At approximately 11:20 this morning a suspect was seen at a Valero gas station in Sutherland Springs, Texas," Martin said. "He was dressed in all black. That suspect crossed the street to the church, exited his vehicle and began firing at the church."
"That suspect then moved to the right side of the church and then continued to fire," he continued. "That suspect entered the church and continued to fire. As he exited the church, a local resident grabbed his rifle and engaged that suspect. The suspect dropped his rifle, which was a Ruger AR assault-type rifle and fled from the church."
"Our local citizen pursued the suspect at that time," Freeman went on. "A short time later as law enforcement responded that suspect right at the Wilson/Guadalupe County line crashed out and was found deceased in his vehicle. At this time we don’t know if it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound or if he was shot by the local resident. We know he’s deceased in the vehicle. "
Posted by M. Murcek 2017-11-05 19:41||   2017-11-05 19:41|| Front Page Top

#25 Sounds like the rifleman scored a solid hit. That is deer hunting area. Sounds like the rifle was a deer hunting rifle. Appears the rifleman knew he was pursuing a hit animal. Good job.
Posted by Threatch Jeamp8135 2017-11-05 19:57||   2017-11-05 19:57|| Front Page Top

#26 Well, the MSM can bitterly cling to the AR "assault rifle" misconception.
Posted by gorb 2017-11-05 20:42||   2017-11-05 20:42|| Front Page Top

#27 UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE ARMED FORCES

DAILY JOURNAL

No. 14-119

Monday, March 10, 2014



PETITIONS FOR GRANT OF REVIEW DENIED


No. 14-0387/AF. U.S. v. Devin P. KELLEY. CCA 38267.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 20:57||   2017-11-05 20:57|| Front Page Top

#28 Per LinkedIn via WeaselZippers:

Posted by Anomalous Sources 2017-11-05 21:21||   2017-11-05 21:21|| Front Page Top

#29 Excellent research Bright Pebbles.
Posted by Hupeting Sforza8196 2017-11-05 21:37||   2017-11-05 21:37|| Front Page Top

#30 He was court-martialed in 2012 for assaulting his spouse and his child. Kelley received a bad conduct discharge from the Air Force, in addition to confinement for 12 months and was reduced in rank.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2017-11-05 22:12||   2017-11-05 22:12|| Front Page Top

#31 The Left.
The Left
The MF**king Left

Just another democrat spreading SJW "justice"
I would not go there tonight but my grief was interrupted by

The left
The Left
The motherfuking left.
Posted by newc 2017-11-05 23:19||   2017-11-05 23:19|| Front Page Top

#32 
Posted by Hupeting Sforza8196 2017-11-05 23:33||   2017-11-05 23:33|| Front Page Top

#33 Hopefully they'll quit mentioning these peoples' names and showing their photos. They must know by now the bastards are just doing it for the fame.

What? You expect the media to be responsible?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2017-11-05 23:51||   2017-11-05 23:51|| Front Page Top

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