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2007-06-24 Europe

German court sentences Lutheran to year in jail for supporting life

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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-06-24 07:33|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 God bless him!

Posted by mrp 2007-06-24 08:35|| 2007-06-24 08:35|| Front Page Top

#2 By comparing one type of killing (approved kind) with another Kind (not-so-approved except by certain party officials), he was making a "denial of the holocaust of the Jews."

Umm, yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense!

Posted by Almost Anonymous5839">Almost Anonymous5839 2007-06-24 10:42|| 2007-06-24 10:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Somebody over there is having a self-righteousness moment. Abortion is quite rare in Germany (150,000/year out of a female population of how many tens of millions?). It's only legal over there with the written permission of the doctor. But most doctors won't give permission, German Medicine's response to the forced abortions of the Nazi era. Some women take the train to the nearest country where abortions are freely available (Holland, perhaps, but I don't really know), and the rest just give up and have the child.

As for choosing Darwinism as the State religion of the EU, what bloody nonsense. They're trying to show they're so much more advanced than the Americans, is all. Then too, which version of Darwinism do they intend to mandate? Charles D's original version as laid out in The Ascent of Man, or perhaps the punctured equilibrium model currently accepted... or even whatever further modifications come to be accepted in the future... They're setting themselves up for heresy, schism, and religious wars on the matter, just like they got when Christianity (in it's various flavours) was the State religion. Clearly the EUniks have learnt exactly the wrong things from their own history.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-06-24 12:58|| 2007-06-24 12:58|| Front Page Top

#4 My normal reaction to a story like this would be "oh well, sucks for them". F the Germans.

Unfortunately, I can't afford such an apathetic response, seeing that PC speak is now entrenched in the US, and draconian measures like this are only a few decades, perhaps even less time, from being enacted here in the US. Sucks for US. Sucks for the world.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2007-06-24 13:04|| 2007-06-24 13:04|| Front Page Top

#5 It's only legal over there with the written permission of the doctor.

The only legal requirement is that the woman desiring a first-trimester abortion attend a counseling session at least 3 days before the procedure. About 500 German citizens reported having an abortion outside the country.

Abortion stats for Germany

Posted by mrp 2007-06-24 13:26|| 2007-06-24 13:26|| Front Page Top

#6 That's all very well, mrp, but in practice if the doctor doesn't sign off that he gave the counselling (the abortion clinics don't do the counselling, it has to be the woman's doctor), it isn't going to happen. That's exactly what happened to a girlfriend of mine; she got to the clinic, they wouldn't do the procedure because she didn't have the signed form from her doctor, he refused to fax it over, and when she went back to him he refused to write it for her. She had her second baby nine and a half months after the first.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-06-24 13:41|| 2007-06-24 13:41|| Front Page Top

#7 "I think we haven't quite convinced them of the value of free speech yet."

I thought East Germany fell...

Posted by Thinemp Lumumba2215 2007-06-24 13:42|| 2007-06-24 13:42|| Front Page Top

#8 "incited the people" - what an orwellian concept. Idiotic german courts; what a nefarious way to abuse the memory of the holocaust. They treat this like shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theater - how bleepin' retarded &/or insane is that.

It would be like locking up moon bats in our own country for saying Bush was behind 9-11. Or, for believing that the lochness monster really exists. Who cares.

Posted by Broadhead6 2007-06-24 14:11|| 2007-06-24 14:11|| Front Page Top

#9 You know, Broadhead6, if we did that, I could finally get some relief from all these papparazzi chasing me.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-06-24 14:15|| 2007-06-24 14:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, right, like you don't like media exposure.

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-06-24 16:09|| 2007-06-24 16:09|| Front Page Top

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