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2005-02-17 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
TERRORISTAN: Iran and Syria Form United Front
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Posted by IToldYouSo 2005-02-17 00:00:00 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1400 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Minor correction Fred, while Alawites control Syria, they are only 10% or less of the population. 75% of Syrians are Sunni Arabs.
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-17 12:33:49 AM||   2005-02-17 12:33:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Show me how the Middle East Democratic Intiative can possibly work, and I will get online.

I'd prefer to see "get off-line".
Posted by Pappy 2005-02-17 12:46:21 AM||   2005-02-17 12:46:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by IDidSoToo TROLL 2005-02-17 1:59:11 AM||   2005-02-17 1:59:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I have been on the Jazeera (Arab Peninsula) and in Turkey and Malaysia. I have also corresponded with Waziris, Balochis and Sindhis who would like foreign support for their opposition to Punjabi occupation. Democracy that supports Punjabi power won't help them. Knowledge and experience makes me an unashamed imperialist, and a mortal enemy of any murder cult that imposes slavery (abd) to a fictious deity (allah), in the name of elite status defense. We have to impose Secularism on Islamania, whether they like it or not. GWB needs to be pressured into one-button solutions to the problem of jihadism. The current Them v Us imbalance, needs to be reversed. It is time to make total war on Muslim aggressors, starting with repatriation of the Anglo-American oil fields to remove their principal strategic resource. Anyone who is prepared to accept a bloody 20 year slog of shot-gun war while Muslimutts prepare WMD, is a either a masochist or a Pollyanna. Americans cannot afford this type of war but, most importantly, won't put up with it, especially after Iraqi voters elected a slate of Shiite extremists.

Why is the rather obvious cultural unification among Iraqi and Persian Shiites - manifest in joint blood-letting during Ashoura - not impacting here? The supposed Arab v Persian conflict among Shiites, is pure spin. Al-Sistani is a Persian. Al-Sadr took personal counsel from Rafsanjani, before launching his terror campaign.

Posted by IToldYouSo 2005-02-17 2:13:55 AM||   2005-02-17 2:13:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, baby. Ya can't get there from here.

Go start your own, son.
Posted by .com 2005-02-17 2:13:56 AM||   2005-02-17 2:13:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#6  Um, upwards of 70% of the Persians actually hate the Iranians, right?

Moreover, the UIA is a coalition of over 100+ parties covering just about every ideological orientation known to the region, including some Sunni candidates. They aren't likely to last as a viable electoral force when they get into the nitty-gritty details of running gobermint, so the idea of them imposing a theocracy in Iraq is nothing short of absurd, especially when you consider that such an attempt would trigger civil war with the Sunni Arabs and the Kurds - thereby negating any advantages the Shi'ites won at the ballot box!
Posted by Dan Darling  2005-02-17 2:38:31 AM|| []  2005-02-17 2:38:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 methinks the US trying to impose secularism on Pakistan would be the fastest way to get Waziris, baluchis and sindis on the same side as the Punjabis. Ditto trying to impose secularism on Iraq would unite Sunni Arabs, Shia arabs, and Persian Shias. Quaint to see unashamed imperialists, but there are reasons we aint, and that the Brits gave up. Imperialism works when youre NOT trying to change local culture much - otherwise its way too costly.

Undoable strategies, from kill em all, to convert em all, to give em everything they want and make em all happy, are all just distractions from REAL strategic debates, which we need to have.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-02-17 9:51:36 AM||   2005-02-17 9:51:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 We have Fred, Dan, and LH leading the choir and making good sense. ITYS, you might want to start paying attention. Else, as .com says, you might want to go start your own blog and expound away. You'll be lonely in a Popular Front for the Liberation of Judaea kind of way but I don't think that particularly bothers you.

You have a choice, ITYS, you can learn from the people you encounter or you can be another Quiet American.
Posted by Steve White  2005-02-17 12:10:05 PM||   2005-02-17 12:10:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 man, I love a good spanking
Posted by Frank G  2005-02-17 12:15:07 PM||   2005-02-17 12:15:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 :>
Posted by Shipman 2005-02-17 12:19:12 PM||   2005-02-17 12:19:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 ...repatriation of the Anglo-American oil fields to remove their principal strategic resource.

Wonder what that means?
Posted by Jules 187 2005-02-17 1:18:16 PM||   2005-02-17 1:18:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Ohhh, Jules darling, that knife is sharp! ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2005-02-17 7:10:59 PM||   2005-02-17 7:10:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by IDidSoToo 2005-02-17 1:59:11 AM||   2005-02-17 1:59:11 AM|| Front Page Top

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