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2016-09-25 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Washington mall shooting: Bad Guy in custody
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Posted by Fred 2016-09-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 early reports indicate that two people who were shot were his ex girl friend and her mother so this might be a vengeance mass murder

or it might be that there are other motives -- and since the killer is in custody there is a decent chance he will explain it all himself
Posted by lord garth 2016-09-25 00:09||   2016-09-25 00:09|| Front Page Top

#2 ...since the killer is in custody there is a decent chance he will explain it all himself.

And then we can watch the MSM un-explain it.
Posted by Crusader 2016-09-25 00:17||   2016-09-25 00:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Mrs Crazy was looking at what is suspected to be his Facebook page. He is just out of high school. Stated things like Obama is stupid, the evonomy is shit. Everyone is stupid. And is of Turkish descent. No mention on weather he's Muslim or not.
Posted by CrazyFool 2016-09-25 00:40||   2016-09-25 00:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Nothing will come of this. The dead were participating in non-governmental activities and commercial enterprise. Early reports indicate none of the 'control group' members (entitlement class) suffered casualties.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-09-25 01:42||   2016-09-25 01:42|| Front Page Top

#5 Besoeker's right, Media is still more interested in the Charlotte Protests (Now protests, since the NG came out and threatened a ass-whoopin) than 5 people killed. Add in he's a foreign national and this will be forgotten Monday.

Posted by Charles 2016-09-25 02:11||   2016-09-25 02:11|| Front Page Top

#6 early reports indicate that two people who were shot were his ex girl friend and her mother so this might be a vengeance mass murder

A twofer. Honor killing plus additional infidels. With the infidels gone due to his actions, he now gets 32 goats.
Posted by Huperese Platypus6497 2016-09-25 03:02||   2016-09-25 03:02|| Front Page Top

#7 there is a decent chance he will explain it all himself

And if he admits it's Jihad related, we'll never hear about his admission.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-09-25 04:16||   2016-09-25 04:16|| Front Page Top

#8 From the Fox News article:

Island County Sheriff's Lt. Mike Hawley told reporters that he spotted Cetin near the suspect's home in Oak Harbor, around 30 miles due west of the mall. Hawley said he immediately recognized Cetin as the suspect, turned his patrol car around and arrested Cetin without incident.

"He said nothing," said Hawley, who added that Cetin was unarmed and carrying a computer in a satchel when he was apprehended. "He was kind of zombie-like."

Mount Vernon Police Lt. Chris Cammock said Cetin had immigrated to the U.S. from Turkey and was a "legal permanent resident." It was not immediately clear when Cetin came to the U.S.

Hawley said Cetin had been arrested for simple assault last year, but provided no further details on the case. The Seattle Times reported that Cetin faced three domestic violence assault charges in both Burlington and Island County, with the victim identified as Cetin's stepfather. The newspaper reports Cetin also was arrested for drunken driving.

Court records show Cetin was told by a judge on Dec. 29 that he was not to possess a firearm, the newspaper reported.

However, the stepfather urged the judge not to impose a no-contact order, saying his stepson was "going through a hard time."

Cetin was arrested almost exactly 24 hours after his alleged victims were shot at the mall Macy's makeup counter. The four female victims died in the store. The male victim died early Saturday as police finished sweeping the 434,000-square-foot building.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-09-25 09:04||   2016-09-25 09:04|| Front Page Top

#9 The Daily Mail adds:

KING 5 News reported that Cetin took three legally purchased guns from his father and drove to Macy's where his ex-girlfriend once worked and started shooting before dumping the weapons and escaping on foot.

His ex-girlfriend quit several months ago, according to KING 5 News and was not at the mall at the time of the shooting.

There have been unconfirmed reports the suspect shouted a woman's name multiple times just moments before opening fire, according to FOX-Q13.


Lots of photos in the usual Daily Mail style, and a high school classmate who described him as a troubled loner.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-09-25 09:28||   2016-09-25 09:28|| Front Page Top

#10 The media originally said he was a Hispanic-looking man. (I thought to myself, Muzzie.) Why does my mind do that?
Posted by JohnQC 2016-09-25 09:49||   2016-09-25 09:49|| Front Page Top

#11 Why does my mind do that?

If you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-09-25 10:09||   2016-09-25 10:09|| Front Page Top

#12 Playing the odds, JohnQC.

Breitbart adds:

However, according to the Cetin’s father’s Facebook page, Cetin was born in Turkey. His father met and married Cetin’s mother in Turkey and the family settled in Oak Harbor, according to the Facebook page.

Local CBS News affiliate KIRO-7 reports that Cetin had a previous brush with the law for misdemeanor assault:

In 2015, Cetin was involved in a fourth-degree assault case — a misdemeanor — in Island County. He was ordered to undergo a mental health evaluation in August 2015, and that was completed as of March 2016.

There were also questions in the court file about cannabis use, but last April a judge has questions about how that related to his mental health evaluation, saying it was not a mental health issue.

In May, a judge approved deferred prosecution in that assault case — meaning Cetin was not convicted — and he was ordered not to have alcohol or drugs.

As of Aug. 25, 2016, Cetin was in compliance with weekly sessions for mental health counseling. He complied with the alcohol assessment, according to court records, and he had a deferred prosecution review for the case scheduled for 2018.


And he tweeted he likes Hillary Clinton, according to the article.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-09-25 10:10||   2016-09-25 10:10|| Front Page Top

#13 No mention of his religious preference? Is this a case of 'Guess that Religion'?
Posted by CrazyFool 2016-09-25 10:22||   2016-09-25 10:22|| Front Page Top

#14 CrazyFool: Odds are that you will be right.
Posted by JohnQC 2016-09-25 12:01||   2016-09-25 12:01|| Front Page Top

#15 According to the CIA World Factbook, Turks are 99.8% Muslim. No guarantee that either Mr. Cetin or his mother remained Muslim once they settled in the U.S., but...

It could still just be an emotional outburst with guns instead of jihad. Either way, he was a known wolf.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-09-25 13:16||   2016-09-25 13:16|| Front Page Top

#16 The town he comes from is mixed Turks, Kurds and some Arabs and Alevis.
Posted by phil_b 2016-09-25 16:16||   2016-09-25 16:16|| Front Page Top

#17 #13 No mention of his religious preference? Is this a case of 'Guess that Religion'?
Posted by: CrazyFool 2016-09-25 10:22
Yup.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/297477-cascade-mall-shooting-suspect-arcan-cetin-had-tumblr-with-chant-to-allah-pics-of-ted-bundy-was-sent-pic-of-isis-leader/
Posted by It is me  2016-09-25 18:34||   2016-09-25 18:34|| Front Page Top

#18 Good find, It is me.
Posted by trailing wife 2016-09-25 23:36||   2016-09-25 23:36|| Front Page Top

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