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2013-06-24 Southeast Asia
Container ship enroute to Jeddah sinks
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Posted by Pappy 2013-06-24 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [433 views ]  Top

#1 The vessel was repor carrying weapons destined for the Syrian Rebels.

This could make a good whodunnit on HLN.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-06-24 00:54||   2013-06-24 00:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Long duration harmonic waves also mentioned at gCaptain.
Posted by Shipman 2013-06-24 04:59||   2013-06-24 04:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Wonder if we'll see a sub/drone with a cutting edge conning tower anytime soon?
Posted by Skidmark 2013-06-24 06:59||   2013-06-24 06:59|| Front Page Top

#4 Nice ship you got there...be a shame if something were to happen to it.
Posted by Spot 2013-06-24 07:56||   2013-06-24 07:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Pink Submarine?
Posted by Mullah Richard 2013-06-24 09:01||   2013-06-24 09:01|| Front Page Top

#6 limpet?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-06-24 10:37||   2013-06-24 10:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Latest theory is that the weight of ship's cargo containers is much greater than the containers' weight as stated on the shipment paperwork. It's a long-standing and all too-common problem.

Still, the way the hull broke is interesting.
Posted by Pappy 2013-06-24 13:40||   2013-06-24 13:40|| Front Page Top

#8 How do you say "frogmen" in Russian?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-06-24 14:06||   2013-06-24 14:06|| Front Page Top

#9 ship was built in 2008 by Mitsubishi

pictures suggest fairly heavy seas created enormous strain on the ship structure but surely Mitsubishi must have built to survive this kind of event which is not that unusual
Posted by lord garth 2013-06-24 14:13||   2013-06-24 14:13|| Front Page Top

#10 What it looks like based on the hull cracks and assuming no foul play, is what is called 'hogging'. Basically the interval of waves was such that the midsection was at the peak of the waves, while the bow and stern were in the troughs. Excessive weight toward the ends would exacerbate the action.

What's concerning is that, if there was excessive container weight, it was either still within the ship's design specs (and this was just a freak accident) or the crew was so used to carrying, or ignored, the excessive weight's effect on the ship.
Posted by Pappy 2013-06-24 14:30||   2013-06-24 14:30|| Front Page Top

#11 reading that gcaptain link, it appears that overloading of containers is rampant and they are not weighed before they are loaded. That may change.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-06-24 14:44||   2013-06-24 14:44|| Front Page Top

#12 They don't weigh the containers?

A box of feathers costs the same to ship as a box of lead labelled "feathers"?

What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by Bobby 2013-06-24 18:06||   2013-06-24 18:06|| Front Page Top

#13 +1 for hogging. The photos of the ship taken just as the crew abandoned to the lifeboat show large, long-period swells that fit perfectly with the ship's length for a hogging situation.

India New Times News says 4,000 of the 4,500 containers had weapons for Syria. Dono whether to believe that or not, but they ong>were onboard. Same media says that 4,000 of them sank, too. Big problem for Obama, since this weapons ship was at sea g>before Obama committed to giving the weapons to the Free Syria Army.
Posted by Rivrdog  2013-06-24 20:03|| http://rivrdog.typepad.com  2013-06-24 20:03|| Front Page Top

#14 Edmund Fitzgerald comes to mind: riding the waves at bow and stern, cracked in the middle
Posted by USN,ret 2013-06-24 20:06||   2013-06-24 20:06|| Front Page Top

#15 they don't dolly those containers up the gangplank. A dock crane should have a load gauge that could be compared to the listed tare weight
Posted by Frank G 2013-06-24 20:35||   2013-06-24 20:35|| Front Page Top

#16 They don't weigh the containers?

In some places they do get weighed. Ports and shipping lines, however, are driven to get the ships turned around in the quickest amount of time. The metaphorical box of lead should really be two boxes of lead. Shippers don't want to pay for two boxes. The port wants the containers loaded and the shipping line wants the ship back underway.

Still, it happened in the Arabian sea, so who really knows at this point.
Posted by Pappy 2013-06-24 23:41||   2013-06-24 23:41|| Front Page Top

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