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2012-05-09 Europe

New Documents Shine Light on Euro Birth Defects

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Posted by tipper 2012-05-09 03:29|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 they pushed ahead with the project regardless

Because the Euro was never really about finance and economics. It was, and still is, all about political power for the undemocratic elites.

The end goal of the EU has always been an oligarchic technocracy run by an unelected cabal of the elites. Economic chaos at this time is helpful to that end as it allows the EU bureaucracy to grasp more power. What happened to the elected Italian gov't? Austrian? Greek?

This is a new distallation of fascism as Scotch and Bourban are different distallations. Mussolini is laughing his ass off.

Posted by AlanC 2012-05-09 07:44|| 2012-05-09 07:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Why the euro is doomed to fall apart: it was an incredibly stupid idea in the first place

Posted by tipper 2012-05-09 09:26|| 2012-05-09 09:26|| Front Page Top

#3 well said AlanC.

Posted by bman 2012-05-09 10:55|| 2012-05-09 10:55|| Front Page Top

#4 tipper, it was only a stupid idea if you think they meant it to work solely as a currency for financial and economic matters.

Of course, IMHO, it was never meant to be that at all. It is a truism that if you do not have control over your currency you do not have a sovereign state. THAT'S the idea here. The EU wants to get rid of sovereign states within the EU. They want total political, fiscal and monetary control to flow through Brussels.

The Eurobots have systematically stripped sovereignty from large swathes of European countries and this "crisis" was fomented as one of the last nails in the coffin of Euro freedom. They've already demanded total control of country budgets due to the inability of the governments to hew to the EU elite's line.

At best Europe would turn into what Obama wants for the US. Weaker and weaker states in terms of what they can actually do/control and an ever increasing bureaucracy with no responsibility to the public, just to their bretheren in the elites.

As Mussolini showed, you don't need ownership to have total control. You just need a monopoly on force and the ability to write all the laws to support you Corporatist buddies (who cease to be you buddies if they step out of line).

As Dr. North at EU Referendum has pointed out, early and often. There is no real demos in the EU on which to build a real democracy. EG The "peasants" of Hungry, Greece etc. have nothing in common with the Nordic world. In my view what is being build before our eyes is a new version of the Roman Empire. The Romans built with the tools they had available and the EUrocrats use a new more modern set, but, the empire is still the goal.

Posted by AlanC 2012-05-09 12:03|| 2012-05-09 12:03|| Front Page Top

#5 being ~~build~~ built before

support ~~you~~ your Corporatist

PIMF.........except when you preview and can't read 8^(

Posted by AlanC 2012-05-09 12:08|| 2012-05-09 12:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Righteous rant, AlanC.

Posted by RandomJD 2012-05-09 13:40|| 2012-05-09 13:40|| Front Page Top

#7 For more information please check out

Posted by AlanC 2012-05-09 14:59|| 2012-05-09 14:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Damn, lost the link.
"EU Ref"

Posted by AlanC 2012-05-09 15:03|| 2012-05-09 15:03|| Front Page Top

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