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#1 Crud. I intended to add a foto of the smug Obama and then submit.
Posted by Bobby 2012-02-04 09:03||
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#2 I call BS on this
Posted by Bill Clinton 2012-02-04 09:15||
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#3 Remember back in the day when a 4.5 unemployment rate during the Bush administration was widely derided as a "jobless recovery"?
Posted by Raj 2012-02-04 09:36||
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#4 no mention of the 1.2 million that have left the workforce, giving up on finding a job. An honest media would note that's why the % went down. *spit*
Posted by Frank G 2012-02-04 09:38||
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#5 There were interesting graphs yesterday that showed that the employment rate (not unemployment) was going down also NOT because of retirees. This is simple game playing with the numbers and means nothing except that they are all liars.
Posted by AlanC 2012-02-04 09:51||
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#6 The news media in their cheering doesn't tell you is that there are still 5 million fewer employed than 5 years ago when Bush was president. They also don't tell you that ion the meantime there are 15 million more Americans in the time there are 5 million fewer jobs.
It's like the constant homeless features on the evening news during Reagan, Bush 1 and 2. When was the last homeless feature since Obama assumed office and millions of families really did lose their homes. Give me Pravda any day. At least I can see topless women on their pages.
Posted by Shimble Guelph5793 2012-02-04 10:16||
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#7 It is much easier to manage expectations and perceptions than actual employment.
Posted by Glenmore 2012-02-04 10:22||
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#8
Posted by Shimble Guelph5793 2012-02-04 10:32||
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#9 I'll believe it when the Mexicans start coming back.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2012-02-04 10:47||
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#10 Roughly the old Russian saying - there is no Izvestia in Pravda and no Pravda in Izvestia.
Welcome to the new Soviet.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-02-04 10:54||
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#11 AU has it right. More here. Barry won't fool the American people with phoney numbers.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2012-02-04 10:59||
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#12 Thank you SG, that's the graph to which I was referring in #5.
Posted by AlanC 2012-02-04 11:47||
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#13 I'd like nothing more than to see a few million americans get back to work. But I'm skeptical that any new jobs have been regained recently. It's an old research trick from way back. If you torture your data enough, you can make it conform to any hypothesis. Well, almost any. Just because he brought unemployment down a couple % wouldn't make me a swing voter anyway, look at all the other despicable shit he and his Ohio Gang have done besides wrecking the recovery.
Posted by bigjim-CA 2012-02-04 12:54||
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#14 Sorry Nimble, but Obama will fool a lot of people with those numbers. The real numbers will not make the MSM.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2012-02-04 12:59||
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#15 He may fool some about the unemployment rate. But he won't fool many about the economy because they have direct contact with it and they know it sux. People aren't getting raises, there is inflation at the grocery store and gas pump, People know there aren't enough jobs around to replace the one they hate. So he's going to have a hard time running on the economy. Fantasy numbers just don't square with actual experience.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2012-02-04 13:42||
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#16 Unfortunately the Media will repeat this and repeat this and never mention the beating the poor data endured to reach even these numbers.
Repeat a lie often enough - it becomes the truth.
Posted by CrazyFool 2012-02-04 13:46||
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#17 Nimble, high grocery prices are the fault of the evil Monsanto and high gas prices are the fault of the evil Exxon and Chevron. Obama is exceeding all metrics for what could possibly be expected of him in such a situation. Or so I am told...
Posted by Glenmore 2012-02-04 15:19||
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#18 Remember all those 'press' briefing back during Vietnam. It didn't match up with what the troops were saying when they got home. At a certain point no matter how much you repeat the lie, the line is crossed and the messenger is treated with derision and contempt. #10 up there shows that even in the absolute state controlled media, at a certain point people don't buy it.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-02-04 15:23||
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#19 AU has it right. More here. Barry won't fool the American people with phoney numbers
I'd be willing to 48 to 51 percent of the people in the US will be considered fools in my book in November.
Posted by Spoger Hapsburg7756 2012-02-04 17:23||
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#20 Dang - Spoger Hapsburg7756 is actually NCMike
Posted by Spoger Hapsburg7756 2012-02-04 17:25||
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#21 That employment figure has a numerator and a denominator.
If you can't get the numerator to do what you want, fudge the denominator by not counting the people who dropped out of the workforce (i.e. fell off the end of their unemployment).
The only statistic that matters is what percent of the non-institutional persons are full time employed.
Also, you'll recollect that the stimulus made three years ago was inexplicably back-loaded. They just couldn't figure out how to spend it all at the time. Right.
This stuff is perfectly obvious, but people don't get it because they aren't told.
Posted by KBK 2012-02-04 19:28||
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#22 If people see that their kids can't get jobs and that their own jobs continue to be insecure, and the same for just about everyone they know -- especially those working for the state and local government -- it won't matter what the official statistics are.
Posted by trailing wife 2012-02-04 21:55||
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#23 My deepest apologies...Please allow me to provide a craven rendering of our beloved Pharaoh... (attached). He Lives!
Posted by Chesh Squank6666 2012-02-04 23:50||
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