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2009-11-03 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Palestinians foil attack on Al-Aqsa worshippers

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Posted by Fred 2009-11-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top
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#1 Of course, that may just be a result of my poor searching skills

Or living in a different universe from Paleos.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-11-03 05:40|| 2009-11-03 05:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Or living in a different universe from Paleos.

Hey, Grumpy G(r)om, allow me this attempt at translating a comment from a french blog I found interesting (because it goes in the way of what I've experienced/came to conclude) :

Le 03/11/09 à 11:0514la crevette
Isha, comment 12 : yes, yes, those youths effectively live in that parallal universe you describe : last winter I followed an academic conferences cycle on islam and we had a ZEP (IE = special pedagogy areas, novlang for Diverse areas) professor who talked about the muslim kids he taught to, I quote him verbatim from my notes

[ Thematic: Islam, what stake & challenge for ZEP teaching ?]

2/ 2nd characteristic : the law of numbers. Among muslims, numbers and majority are law/legitimacy. But, they are persuaded, in those areas, to actually be the most numerous population in France. They stay in their neighbourhoods and keep themself in a self-insulated world (physically as well as intellectually). And, one must admit that their numbers are rising, first of all mass immigration let population go in France that arenot necessirally, and they have much higher birthrates; a big family for a french poulation is 3 or 4 children, for them, this would be ridiculous, it would be 9-10. They therefore sincerely think they are a majority. [NDA: anecdotic story about 11 yers old kids saying in relation to something 'there still are french people? We thought they were dwindling down'). They therefore don't affirm themselves as frenhc at all (it would even be unthinkable for them!) and see for example the la Marseillaise as a racist and islamophobic anthem. That's why they boo it. History for them boils down to a struggle between Christians and muslims, nothing more. Their lack of intellectual curiosity is absolute, nothing outside of islam. All those feelings legitimate and nurture an hatred of Christians and french : they are unable to empathize with the suffering of other people in the world, only of muslims. The oumma is a closed circuit, insulated world.
The oumma is the world of rumors and wild conspiracies as well, nothing is rational. For example, they are affirmative that Israel sells coca cola to buy weaponry! Or, westerners created the Aids virus to spread it among africans! Or, also, sarkozy has a project of genociding muslims in France!
They are permanently are in a "feeling", emotionnal thought process, never in a reasoned or objective one.
Some rather basic psychobabble I could make :
their unability to reason is linked to the fact most of those muslim kiddies are "raised", essentially by their mothers, fathers are quite absent. In the same vein, there is an unability to locate themself spacially (they refere themselves to their bled* to read a world map) and temporally (Prophet's time!).
This second unability is linked as well to the lack of fathering, according to psychologists".

YMMV, take it with a grain of salt, but there definitvely are interesting stuff here, that you can juxtaposate to other "arab/muslims" traits.

*"bled" = arab word for their "place", where their family was and is located back in the homecountry. Incidentally, even before french slang was flooded with arab sayings, accents,... since "street culture" is owned by arabs & africans, there were quite a few arab words in the french vocabulary. And, for some reasons, most of them refer to negative stuff... ramdam (from ramadan) = make a scene a disturbance; bled = backwater, sh8thole place; gourbi = rundown and unkept home,...

Posted by anonymous5089 2009-11-03 11:04|| 2009-11-03 11:04|| Front Page Top

#3 Iranian PressTV taking lessons from Pravda?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-11-03 12:42|| 2009-11-03 12:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Facinating, anonymous5089. Small aside: it's inability, not unability.

Posted by trailing wife 2009-11-03 17:15|| 2009-11-03 17:15|| Front Page Top

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