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2009-04-10 Africa Horn

US navy sends FBI to free hostage from stranded pirates

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Posted by Steve White 2009-04-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 "...the matter will soon be solved, Abdi Garad told AFP by phone from the northern pirate lair of Eyl."

I have a sense of how this could resolve.

Posted by Skidmark 2009-04-10 03:03|| 2009-04-10 03:03|| Front Page Top

#2 This must not be news, anymore. I search the front page of The Washington Post before I left for work, and didn't see anything...

Posted by Bobby 2009-04-10 06:07|| 2009-04-10 06:07|| Front Page Top

#3 The FBI did such a splendid job rounding up all of the ACORN criminals, nothing much for them to do but sit around. This gives them an opportunity to stay engaged, brush up on their Somali clan linquistic abilities. Besides, how could DoD handle anything this complex ethnically nuanced.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-04-10 07:32|| 2009-04-10 07:32|| Front Page Top

#4 Non-sequitur from NY Times

There is no evidence, experts say, of any links between the pirates and Islamic militants in Somalia, and officials said it was unlikely that the United States would strike directly at pirate sanctuaries along the Somali coast

Someone explain that logic to me.

Posted by Chineper Speaking for Boskone5514 2009-04-10 08:44|| 2009-04-10 08:44|| Front Page Top

#5 The Navy needs help from the FBI on how to handle pirates? Close Annapolis.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-10 08:59|| 2009-04-10 08:59|| Front Page Top

#6 When the pirate reinforcements get ther. Sink. Everything. Then it will be another couple hundred years. If not, the Barry admin is going to end up having to downplay serveral of these events before his time is up.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-10 11:11|| 2009-04-10 11:11|| Front Page Top

#7 The NYTimes is telling Obama what to think. Next, it will tell Hillary what to do. Meanwhile, Gates has been found hiding under a desk.

Posted by balthazar 2009-04-10 12:03|| 2009-04-10 12:03|| Front Page Top

#8 I don't think the G-men are on site. They appear to be working out of Quantico.

Posted by tu3031 2009-04-10 12:24|| 2009-04-10 12:24|| Front Page Top

#9 The FBI did a great job of negotiating with the Abu Sayyaff to get the Burnhams released as well. The FBI helped with a money transfer that help to fund the terrorists and in the end, months later, Martin Burnham and Edobora Yap were kill. Grace was shot in the leg. If I am ever taken hostage PLEASE call a used care salesman NOT the FBI, I want someone that can negotiate!

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-04-10 12:44|| 2009-04-10 12:44|| Front Page Top

#10 PLEASE call a used ~~care~~ car salesman NOT

Sorry, fixed

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-04-10 12:45|| 2009-04-10 12:45|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm not entirely certain that I'm the kind of guy you'd want negotiating on your behalf. The only thing I know for certain that would come out of it is, that the hostage takers would get no money. None. But I have this great leathered up Buick in back with E-Z miles on her.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-10 12:53|| 2009-04-10 12:53|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm with Nimble here, and even worse, how close to you have to get to the USN before they'll rescue you?

The Cap'n attempted escape, at night, but the Bainbridge was a few "hundred meters" away?

Isn't the logic completely backward here - shouldn't the USN be teaching the FBI how to conduct hostage negotiation, rescue, recovey and after action analysis?

The only possible hope is some sort of Eisenhowerian "enlarge the problem" setting - suck in all the reinforcements the Somali navy elects to deploy, track them arriving, besiege them at sea (when has that been done?) and deliver the ultimata.

OK naval historians, RN or USN - what are the protocols and precendents involved?

Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2009-04-10 13:43|| 2009-04-10 13:43|| Front Page Top

#13 What will be truly pathetic is if the Bainbridge is jouned by the Decatur (DDG 73) and the Preble (DDG 88). I wonder how many of the sailors will understand the irony. Those guys ~~understood~~ made the protocols and precedents.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-10 17:19|| 2009-04-10 17:19|| Front Page Top

#14 What sorry irony that would be, but you're right on the money with the history.

I'm from Ohio originally, near Eaton, which is the seat of Preble County. I'll wander over to the Navy webiste to see if the have a USS Eaton on the roster at present. That would complete the fun.

Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2009-04-10 17:45|| 2009-04-10 17:45|| Front Page Top

#15 MikeN,
Let's swap that Buick for the captain. Normally I wouldn't want to pay ransom, but that sounds kind of like the ransom of Red Chief.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2009-04-10 18:11|| 2009-04-10 18:11|| Front Page Top

#16 What's the big deal? Just have Obama print up another trillion and pay the ransom.

Posted by Gluting Fillmore6653 2009-04-10 18:32|| 2009-04-10 18:32|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm not entirely certain that I'm the kind of guy you'd want negotiating on your behalf. The only thing I know for certain that would come out of it is, that the hostage takers would get no money. None. But I have this great leathered up Buick in back with E-Z miles on her.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-04-10 19:21|| 2009-04-10 19:21|| Front Page Top

#18 Oh heck, that didn't work. Let me try again...

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-04-10 19:22|| 2009-04-10 19:22|| Front Page Top

#19

'nuff siad.

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-04-10 20:54|| 2009-04-10 20:54|| Front Page Top

#20 Okay, I'll bite, the SEALS? DELTA? BOTH???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-04-10 21:04|| 2009-04-10 21:04|| Front Page Top

#21 Snowy Mountain, I think you just found a brand new Anti-pirating weapon. When they pirates try to board, launch one of our useless cars at them! I can just picture it now, them all pointing up and yelling "BUICK!"

Posted by Charles 2009-04-10 21:54|| 2009-04-10 21:54|| Front Page Top

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