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2009-04-03 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Village mob thumps Google Street View car

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Posted by Seafarious 2009-04-03 01:52|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Man, these idiots really don't understand the difference between public and private.

And how the hell is a picture of your house on the internet an aid to burglars?

This makes no sense at all.

Posted by Parabellum 2009-04-03 08:42|| 2009-04-03 08:42|| Front Page Top

#2 It makes a lot of sense in a historical context.

Until the industrial revolution with the rise of capitalism and large cities, people had very little privacy. Consider that there is no right to privacy in the Bill of Rights. It was a judicial creation of the early 20th century.

The revolutions of the 19th century brought the anonymity of the large crowd. Bergson condemned this anomie. But people liked it. It finally gave them freedom in their daily lives from the ruling elites, whether spinster busybodies or self-righteous ministers.

The networking of the world on the internet threatens the privacy people have gained. They don't want to give it up. The Google Street View vehicle is one of the few physical manifestations of the network they can attack.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-03 09:04|| 2009-04-03 09:04|| Front Page Top

#3 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. - Fourth Amendment

That implies privacy in one's home unless the agent of the state can produce a warrant. That's not a 20th Century creation. What is a 20th Century creation is the various tangential extensions of that beyond that original intent.

What brought anonymity [vice privacy] was the development of true cities feed by both rural and international immigration creating a social environments that meant that there weren't enough official or unofficial regulators of social norm to impose their standards on everyone. If you look at the very issue of 'how can something that is obviously in public be private' it comes down to anonymity, not privacy. There's a lawyer cult dedicated to making sure you don't understand the difference between the two.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-04-03 09:27|| 2009-04-03 09:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Afraid somebody will catch them picking their noses.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-04-03 17:57|| 2009-04-03 17:57|| Front Page Top

#5 There is a difference between the government having to have a warrant to enter your home and a right to privacy. Otherwise the right of privacy wouldn't have needed to be created from the emanations and penumbras of the Constitution. Nor would the fourth amendment have been sufficient to make abortion a constitutional right.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-03 18:33|| 2009-04-03 18:33|| Front Page Top

#6 There is a difference between the government having to have a warrant to enter your home and a right to privacy.

The government can't know what's really happening in your home without entry, thus privacy. It may guess, it may believe, but it can not know without direct examination which violates privacy. Thus the need for warrant, and in theory, probable cause. You're playing linguist games.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-04-03 22:30|| 2009-04-03 22:30|| Front Page Top

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