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2008-10-22 Home Front: WoT
Appeals Court Halts Release of 17 Guantanamo Detainees
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Posted by Fred 2008-10-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top
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#1 Constitution does not cover THAT.
Posted by newc">newc  2008-10-22 01:26||   2008-10-22 01:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Albania had agreed to take them but pressure was applied from Euros and China. If they go back to China, they get a bullet in the head and a bill for the bullet sent to their families.

This is why I cringed when Bush announced his terrorism agenda after 9/11. Any government with a problem can declare protesters as terrs. These guys threaten China, not us.
Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins  2008-10-22 10:26|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org]  2008-10-22 10:26|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't see why the Constitution covers anyone that isn't a US citizen.
Posted by chris 2008-10-22 10:49||   2008-10-22 10:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Who determined they can't be returned to China? The Chinese government should have jurisdiction over its own citizens, rather than protected by the US Constitution or some vague concept of universal "human rights". The Uighurs need to work for reform within their own framework. What if the liberals and the UN deem the US a "terrorist sponsoring state" for fighting an "illegal war", trying to nullify our laws? Respecting the Chinese national identity would seem to do more to boost our esteem in their eyes, making diplomatic pressure on rogue states at the Security Council easier if relations aren't strained with a nation with veto power.
Posted by Thealing Borgia 122 2008-10-22 10:54||   2008-10-22 10:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Just another example to add to the pile proving that the "law enforcement" approach to terrorism won't/can't work. Those that think it can have been buried in evidence to the contrary, but still fight against the idea that military tribunals are NECESSARY when dealing with non-uniformed, not-nationalist combattants.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2008-10-22 11:06|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2008-10-22 11:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Chris - Everyone has some rights in the United States. You can't just walk up to a Frenchman and slap him, for example, no matter how much you want to. It's up to the courts or Congress to determine which rights do not apply to non-citizens.

Borgia - the Chinese government is a dictatorship, enslaving millions of its own people. Basic human rights are routinely denied. It only has veto power because the UN caved to them and ejected the freely elected Chinese government on Taiwan.
Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins  2008-10-22 11:22|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org]  2008-10-22 11:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Chuck I understand what you are saying but where they captured on US soil? Also it's not like they are of the same sort of criminal element that would be going up too someone and slapping them. Would you have given Muhammad Atta constitutional rights if he was caught before 9/11? That is if was captured before entering the US . Anyway I don't know too much about the Chinese ppl at Guantanomo but the besides basic human rights I don't think anyone there deserves too be treated under the Constitution.
Posted by chris 2008-10-22 12:36||   2008-10-22 12:36|| Front Page Top

#8  You can't just walk up to a Frenchman and slap him, for example, no matter how much you want to.

Oh, dear! I wish someone would have mentioned this sooner.
Posted by SteveS 2008-10-22 13:30||   2008-10-22 13:30|| Front Page Top

#9 LOL steve
Posted by chris 2008-10-22 15:03||   2008-10-22 15:03|| Front Page Top

#10 The Uighurs need to work for reform within their own framework.

Some are. For instance Rebiya Kadeer. Others seem to prefer the standard Muslim approach of blowing up busses an such.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2008-10-22 19:52||   2008-10-22 19:52|| Front Page Top

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