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2008-05-28 Science & Technology

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Posted by 3dc 2008-05-28 03:56|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 The conventional wisdom of North American migrations has been eroding for years now. Too much evidence, DNA or otherwise, suggests that multiple waves of immigration, not only from Siberia through what is now Alaska, but also from European and Polynesian stock, explain the immediate pre-Columbian population of American Indians, rather than isolated moves during the end of the last ice age.

Indian groups (and some academicians who've made a career out of the CW), however, are terrified of the new evidence. It could undermine the victim status of the Indians, and potentially threaten subsidies and special treatment - as well as the funding and grants of those academicians who are steeped in the CW on this subject.

The resistance of Northwest Indian tribes to study of Kenniwick man is the best example, but there are others, notably attempts to bury evidence of European stock in parts of South America.

Posted by no mo uro 2008-05-28 06:08|| 2008-05-28 06:08|| Front Page Top

#2 I doubt they had any clue that Kennewick man might have led to any conclusions other than what was accepted at the time, but they sure do seem to be against any kind of scientific investigation.

I don't know if that's entirely because of deeply held cultural beliefs or if they are just being pig-headed because they are still pi$$ed off that they got overrun by European Americans. My uninformed guess is that it's probably something in between.

Posted by gorb 2008-05-28 06:40|| 2008-05-28 06:40|| Front Page Top

#3 Problem with Kennewick Man, generally, is that he was part of a population which disappeared. To change from being the First People to being the First Genociders would sure cut into the sympathy account.
I have seen a documentary showing phenotypical evidence of Australoid immigration in southern South America. Except for a few skull shapes, they're not here any longer, either.
And the Solutrean connection, if true, has gotten some folks upset about racism, presuming that the presumption behind talking about Solutreans in eastern North America means the locals couldn't manage whatever it was by themselves.
There's a lot more here than science.

Posted by Richard Aubrey">Richard Aubrey 2008-05-28 07:55|| 2008-05-28 07:55|| Front Page Top

#4 Dig not below the Layer of Clovis. It is Taboo.

Posted by Shaving Sproing7714 2008-05-28 12:26|| 2008-05-28 12:26|| Front Page Top

#5 If you want utterly bizarre Native American DNA, look no further than the Zuni Indians of New Mexico.

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf087/sf087a02.htm

Unrelated to any other tribe or culture in the southwest, they have similar characteristics in both with 12th to 15th Century Japanese.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-05-28 14:19|| 2008-05-28 14:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Moose__ any linguistic realtionships?

Posted by Daffy Anginelet4649 2008-05-28 15:27|| 2008-05-28 15:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Well Whaddaya know, LEMURIA-OCEANIA RULES!

See MADONNA > LA ISLA BONITA > D *** NG IT, SHE FELL IN LOVE WID PEDRO [Guam Two Lovers Point legends].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-05-28 20:22|| 2008-05-28 20:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Daffy, no. Their lingo seems unrelated to anything around, except some imports from the neighboring tribes.

Someone tried to bundle them with Aztecs, but it does not hold water.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-05-28 20:26|| 2008-05-28 20:26|| Front Page Top

#9 no mo uro, you can see the same politics played in Kiwiland. The pre-Maori culture that is apparently somewhat related to archaic Kelts gets buried (in some cases literally) and the academic establishment plays along.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-05-28 20:39|| 2008-05-28 20:39|| Front Page Top

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