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7 Arrested in Death of Oakland Newspaper Editor

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-08-04 01:45|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Lieutenant Joyner said that many residents of the neighborhood surrounding the bakery had been afraid of the Muslim group, whose members sometimes shot automatic rifles in the air in a show of intimidation. Other members of the group, the police said, flaunted their defiance of outstanding warrants on assault and gun charges.

coming to a neighborhood near you, soon.

There seems that there is more to this story that we are not being told. How did the bakery know that Chauncey Bailey was about to publish a story about them? "The men were part of a group operating a very violent criminal enterprise out of a neighborhood bakery."
]it seems as though the local law enforcement agencies were well aware of the violent and unsafe nature of this group, yet were in a hands-off mode. It could be due the fact that the feds were monitoring for links for terrorism. Or maybe it was just because they were Muslims and the local authorities didn't have the cajones to act.

Posted by AT 2007-08-04 03:28|| 2007-08-04 03:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Interesting to see the liberals squirm on this one. On one hand, the racist police raid a group that is not only black, but also Muslim! It's a natural sympathy there. On the other hand, they murdered a newspaper editor, and liberals always protect their own. So, which is it?

Posted by gromky 2007-08-04 03:33|| 2007-08-04 03:33|| Front Page Top

#3 So, which is it?

As usual, which ever decision that makes the least sense...

Posted by Crusoger the Grim6029 2007-08-04 04:47|| 2007-08-04 04:47|| Front Page Top

#4 Lieutenant Joyner said that many residents of the neighborhood surrounding the bakery had been afraid of the Muslim group, whose members sometimes shot automatic rifles in the air in a show of intimidation.

I thought gun sex was illegal within the city limits?

Posted by Besoeker 2007-08-04 04:54|| 2007-08-04 04:54|| Front Page Top

#5 grоmky, the editor is dead. For a librul mind, he is not, does not exist, and almost as if he did not exist at all. He may have some value as a capital that can be made from his demise with the right spin, but that is all to it. The only thing that matters for the librul is "me", anything else does not matter unless it can be used in some "feel-good" way. Narcisismo supremo.

They will side with the black muslim "revolutionaries", for two causes (would use normally "reasons", but it does not seem to fit in this context): 1) The perps being black, they are "downtrodden" by the white vile racist society and 2) libruls are affraid of them (in sort of a sociopathic mix of being affraid and admiring them at the same time).

Is librulism a mental disorder? Yewbetcha! ;-)

Posted by twobyfour 2007-08-04 05:29|| 2007-08-04 05:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Be interesting to hear what that dhimmicrat, ex-black muslim Keith Ellison (D-MN) has to say about this. Bet he doesn't quote the bible.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-08-04 07:18|| 2007-08-04 07:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Nation of Islam has run parts of Oakland for many years. Lately real Muslims have taken umbrage at their strong arm techniques:

The president of the Yemini American Grocery Association said Saturday that grocers have the right to defend themselves if their stores are invaded like two West Oakland markets were hit Wednesday night.
The association, which represents about 300 store owners in Oakland, Berkeley and Richmond, is not telling grocers to buy guns and shoot, said Mohamad Saleh Mohamad. "But if they have a permit for a gun, they can legally defend themselves."

"The storekeepers are very devastated," Mohamad said. "You would be too if 12 men came into your house or business ... did damage like they did."

"This was a criminal act. It had nothing to do with religion, In this country we have the right to do business. We are selling legal products. The whole community is angry," Mohamad said.

Late Saturday, a group of about 30 Nation of Islam members marched around West Oakland handing out fliers, condemning the violence against the markets.

Among other stores, they passed a new market operated by a Yemini man whose store on Third Street in Richmond was attacked by men in a fashion exactly like the attacks on the two Oakland stores last week.

"They told me not to sell alcohol or they would be back. They didn't come back." The grocer, who asked not to be identified, said the attack ruined his business and he closed the store. His new store does not sell alcohol.

Oakland Deputy Police Chief Howard Jordan, who is heading up the investigation into the attacks on San Pablo Market and Liquor and New York Market, said police expect to make an announcement early this week.

The grocers said police told them they have identified some of the suspects from surveillance camera video at San Pablo Market.

Jordan said investigators are still working to positively identify all of the suspects in the two attacks.

The attackers, wearing suits and bow ties, some carrying clubs, smashed displays and refrigerator units containing alcoholic beverages. They threatened store employees and told them not to sell alcohol to the African-American community.

Posted by lotp 2007-08-04 07:26|| 2007-08-04 07:26|| Front Page Top

#8 So much wrong here... Gangsta muslims shooting auto fire in the air to intimidate other blacks and muslims. Police officials aware of the situation. Oakland sounds like heaven on earth

Posted by regular joe 2007-08-04 07:52|| 2007-08-04 07:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Why do the muslims in the U.S. get a pass all too often? If they are thugs and gangsters, they are thugs and gangsters. Why the hands off policy? Bust their collective a$$e$; quit pussyfooting around. RICO and terrorism laws come to mind. Have the muslimes in the USA got people intimidated because of PC or fear of lawsuits? Bailey's unpublished story would be interesting to read.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-08-04 08:33|| 2007-08-04 08:33|| Front Page Top

#10 coming to a neighborhood near you, soon.

My forefathers fought and died for this here
I'm stronger than your war of fear
Are we clear?
If you step in my hood
It's understood
It's open season

- Lyrics by Stuck Mojo from the song "Open Season"

Posted by bigmacd">bigmacd 2007-08-04 08:44|| htttp://www.ropma.com]">[htttp://www.ropma.com] 2007-08-04 08:44|| Front Page Top

#11 Oakland is a classic example of the SA syndrome. Give them the reins and they'll ride the horse right into the ground.

Posted by Slats Slulet6822 2007-08-04 09:06|| 2007-08-04 09:06|| Front Page Top

#12 If it's Oakland, it has a lot more to do with race than religion. And who your relatives are.

The straightness of a neighborhood in Oakland is inversely proportional to the straightness of the streets. If the street ain't straight, the neighborhood's great.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-08-04 09:51|| 2007-08-04 09:51|| Front Page Top

#13 That's true in Berkeley and elsewhere in the East Bay, too.

A good number of years ago Mr. Lotp grew up in the Bay area at the top of the hill on a winding street. For the sake of integration etc. he was assigned to newly devised school district that started in the rundown flats and ran up the hill. I.e. he was sent to classes in Richmond, where the Black Panthers originally organized.

After a year of being threatened, beaten up by a gang of 5 or 6 at a time and shaken down for his lunch money, he cut a deal with a different gang: for a smaller, but regular, fee paid to them instead he would go unscathed over the next 2 years. His money was good, they hated the offending gang anyway and kept their word & before he turned 17 he was out of there and off to college.

Or so the story went the one time I heard it ... ;-)

Posted by lotp 2007-08-04 10:02|| 2007-08-04 10:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Police have definitely linked a shotgun siezed during four raids as being the weapon used to murder Bailey. The gun was found on the premises of Your Black Muslim Bakery along with evidence of the murder plot.

At the makeshift memorial set up near the slaying site a hand lettered sign reads:

"Yet another good positive black voice silenced by a negative black hand, will I be next? Brother?"

As always, Muslims do what they do best and that is kill their own kind. Rest assured that the Oakland Post is working hard to decipher all of Bailey's notes and computer entries. Volunteers have bolstered the usual staff of eleven to over one hundred people as they chase down leads in an effort to break the story that Bailey was working on at the time of his slaying. Since this was premeditated murder with the special circumstances of laying in wait and using a firearm in the commission of a crime, Bailey's killers had better be headed for some quality time with Mister Needle.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-04 10:06|| 2007-08-04 10:06|| Front Page Top

#15 The liberals should remember, they will be the first targets of Islam hate when Islam starts taking over.
Why they continue to defend the death cult makes me wonder...

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-08-04 10:19|| 2007-08-04 10:19|| Front Page Top

#16 Based on news accounts of the last murder, the order to kill was probably given to numerous Muslims. That makes the group a criminal organization, like CAIR.

For anyone who doesn't know, Black Muslims believe that 5000 years of "white rule" is about to end. Elijah Muhammed said that space ships full of dynamite would destroy white governments, and set the stage for 5000 years of black world leadership. That sort of leaves the Arabs out of the Islamic picture.

Posted by McZoid 2007-08-04 10:23|| 2007-08-04 10:23|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm guessing the FBI has been all over this case from the moment the body was found. Ever since John Allen Mohammed and his boy Malvo went on that I-95 killing spree in 2002, they've been looking out for the fringe-y Nation of Islam spinoffs who are eager to advance the spaceship action with a little pre-emptive killing in the name of Allah or whoever.

At a guess, and looking back over earlier articles about that bakery, the NOI types there decided the main NOI isn't being proactive enough ... and in particular wasn't shaking down the locals hard enough in the name of enforcing purity.

Oakland's actually a lot better now than it was in the 80s and 90s, but in some neighborhoods groups like this have pretty much taken over from the police and other authorities.

Posted by lotp 2007-08-04 10:30|| 2007-08-04 10:30|| Front Page Top

#18 The liberals should remember, they will be the first targets of Islam hate when Islam starts taking over.

That they manage to overlook such a patently obvious outcome relies upon a degree of cognitive dissonance rivaled only by Islam's willful ignorance of how perilous it is to antagonize the world's nuclear superpowers.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-04 10:31|| 2007-08-04 10:31|| Front Page Top

#19 #5 ... the editor is dead. For a librul mind, he is not, does not exist

Bravo, 2x4!

#14 As always, Muslims do what they do best and that is kill their own kind.

Ha? Was Chauncey Bailey a Mohammedan?

Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-04 10:40|| 2007-08-04 10:40|| Front Page Top

#20 Was Chauncey Bailey a Mohammedan?

No, but he was black and black on black violence shares almost total identicality with Muslim on Muslim violence.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-04 11:01|| 2007-08-04 11:01|| Front Page Top

#21 #20. Just because a group of Humans is prone to violence, doesn't make them Muslim.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-04 11:08|| 2007-08-04 11:08|| Front Page Top

#22 definitely linked a shotgun siezed

OK, CSI-ers, how does one definitely link a shotgun?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-08-04 11:13|| 2007-08-04 11:13|| Front Page Top

#23 They warned us about the silencing of the media that would occur under a Bush regime.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-08-04 11:17|| 2007-08-04 11:17|| Front Page Top

#24 how does one definitely link a shotgun?

Powder traces? Pellet chemistry? Paper wadding in the cartridges? Breech face markings on a shell ejected at the scene? I'm sure there are several methods that can link a shotgun to a particular crime.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-04 11:20|| 2007-08-04 11:20|| Front Page Top

#25 Some of the irrational venting that goes on here (intersperced with the informed WOT commentary) includes guesses about what "liberals" will say (just scroll up) and then bitter condemnation of these imaginary liberal reactions, as if they were real. In fact these murderers won't get any liberal sympathy and liberals will want them put behind bars. Believe it or not, it's not 1969.

Posted by Odysseus 2007-08-04 11:28|| 2007-08-04 11:28|| Front Page Top

#26 OK, CSI-ers, how does one definitely link a shotgun?

By connecting the Hole Size with the Absolute Deadness of the victim.

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-08-04 11:34|| 2007-08-04 11:34|| Front Page Top

#27 Just because a group of Humans is prone to violence, doesn't make them Muslim.

I never said it did. My sole point is that the mechanisms behind black on black violence and intramural Muslim killing share many commonalities.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-04 11:35|| 2007-08-04 11:35|| Front Page Top

#28 Odysseus: that's correct, most liberals will indeed want the murderers jugged. After all, they off'd a newspaper editor :-)

Seriously, I agree, most intelligent liberals (i.e., not the dummies who comment at Kos) want this sort of nonsense stopped right now.

As to 'irrational venting', why do you think we call it 'Rantburg'?

AoS.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-08-04 11:54|| 2007-08-04 11:54|| Front Page Top

#29 Folks, I don't know but I'm guessing that more than a few of the Oakland police are black, what with affirmative action and all. I prefer "Equal Opportunity" to "Affirmative Action" and believe that the two are mutually exclusive. But, in any case, I doubt if anybody is going to scream about racist white pigs when these cops do their job. As Odysseus said, this is not the Sixties. Looks to me like a simple case of the Religion of Peace, as usual, attracting people who are prone to thuggery. I wonder how many of them were first exposed to Islam while in prison.

Posted by Abu Uluque6305 2007-08-04 12:55|| 2007-08-04 12:55|| Front Page Top

#30 The black population in Oakland, while still substantial, has been declining since the mid-80s and continues to do so:

In early 2007, Oakland's population reached 415,492. In the censusGR2 of 2000, there were 399,484 people, 150,790 households, and 86,402 families residing in the city. The population density was 7,126.6/mi² (2,751.4/km²). There were 157,508 housing units at an average density of 2,809.8/mi² (1,084.8/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 35.66 percent African American, 23.52 percent White, 0.66 percent Native American, 15.23 percent Asian American, 0.50 percent Pacific Islander, 11.66 percent from other races, and 4.98 percent from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 21.89 percent of the population.

The US Census Bureau 2005 estimates show 31.00 percent African American, 26.10 percent White, 0.60 percent Native American, 16.40 percent Asian American, 0.90 percent Pacific Islander, 14.00 percent from other races, and 4.80 percent from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 25.00 percent of the population.

It is one of the top 10 most dangerous cities in the country, still.

Posted by lotp 2007-08-04 13:04|| 2007-08-04 13:04|| Front Page Top

#31 The part that isn't black and muslim and thuggish is flaky. The most recent ex-Mayor is Jerry Brown, the original Mr. Moonbeam. You have as congressman, Ron Dellums, about as far to the left you can get without running into Ron Paul or Lyndon Larouche coming towards you on the other side of the street. Then you have to consider the quote in the previous post about there being an Association of Yemeni Grocers. I'll bet there isn't even an association of Yemeni Grocers in Yemen.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-08-04 13:32|| 2007-08-04 13:32|| Front Page Top

#32 Just because a group of Humans is prone to violence, doesn't make them Muslim.

Yes, if one looks at terrorist acts throughout the world, being Muslim makes them prone to violence.

Posted by AT 2007-08-04 14:25|| 2007-08-04 14:25|| Front Page Top

#33 Odysseus said: guesses about what "liberals" will say and then bitter condemnation of these imaginary liberal reactions. In fact these murderers won't get any liberal sympathy and liberals will want them put behind bars. Believe it or not, it's not 1969.

you are right. Liberals will be horrified just like everyone else. They will say tsk, tsk and then promptly go to work assuring that law enforcement officials are hampered in every way possible when attempting to get criminals like these off our streets.

Your right. It isn't 1969. Back then, being a liberal meant something other than being a party hack.

Posted by AT 2007-08-04 15:26|| 2007-08-04 15:26|| Front Page Top

#34 Couple minor points: NoI isn't Muslim and never has been. It is a syncretic mix of science fiction and whatever struck Wallace's fancy that would be anti-white and anti-Christian.

And as far as the attention the case will get, I think professional solidarity trumps ideology: stories about other reporters dying are more important than anything short of nuclear war or a Paris Hilton sighting.

Posted by James">James 2007-08-04 15:49|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2007-08-04 15:49|| Front Page Top

#35 NoI isn't Muslim and never has been.

Maybe not, but it sure doesn't hurt to have the word "Muslim" appear in headlines about a murdering gang of criminals who gun down people in broad daylight.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-08-04 16:21|| 2007-08-04 16:21|| Front Page Top

#36 #25 Odysseus

Aris on a cruise? ;-)

Some of the irrational venting that goes on here (intersperced with the informed WOT commentary) includes guesses about what "liberals" will say

I still have some degree of association of "liberal" with a "classical liberal", but the term has been hijacked by lefties so thoroughly that now-a-days a liberal ~= leftie with a strong totalitarian streak. But I still use "librul" to make a distinction.

will say (just scroll up) and then bitter condemnation of these imaginary liberal reactions, as if they were real.

What, you do not think that a certain type of indoctrination leads to certain behavioral patterns? So, sociology and group psychology is in your view invalid and cannot make any predictions? All discrete induhvidual units submersed in rainbow of shades of grey that no discernment of behavioral pattern can be made?

Hate to tell you that, but the tribe of lefty porkgressives displays behavioral traits that are rather boringly predictable. I am willing to document what I stated by scouring lefty blogs.

In fact these murderers won't get any liberal sympathy and liberals will want them put behind bars. Believe it or not, it's not 1969

True--'s not 1969. In fact, much worse, because there is not many of true (classical) liberals left.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-08-04 16:33|| 2007-08-04 16:33|| Front Page Top

#37 Hate to tell you that

Not really, understand... itsa figure of speach. In fact, I would draw some gleefull twobyfourish satisfaction when I'll document my observations by anecdotal evidence. ;-)

Posted by twobyfour 2007-08-04 16:44|| 2007-08-04 16:44|| Front Page Top

#38 lefty porkgressives haha! that's a keeper.

Posted by AT 2007-08-04 16:48|| 2007-08-04 16:48|| Front Page Top

#39 Can NoI morons make pilgrimage to Mecca? They can because Muslim Hadith notes "prophet" predictions of sect formation. Although Wahabis are hyper-critical of NoI, restriction of them from pilgrimage would be unitarian, thus offensive to Islam. However, Muhammed also predicted temporary unities and permanent war among the sects. In any case, NoI dogma doesn't focus on Hajj and Ramadan; they are only terms of reference. NoI is a black racist and elitist cult, which is about as worthy of religious status as Aztec cannibalism.

Posted by McZoid 2007-08-04 20:13|| 2007-08-04 20:13|| Front Page Top

#40 NoI is a black racist and elitist cult, which is about as worthy of religious status as Aztec cannibalism.

NOI is a group of thugs and gangsters. As such, they are as worthy of "religious status" as is AQ, CAIR or any other Muslim terrorist affiliate.

Funny isn't it. Elitist cults. The clingers on and desperate keepers of glory past - - they are and always will be what ails this world most.

Posted by AT 2007-08-04 20:48|| 2007-08-04 20:48|| Front Page Top

#41 As I recall, Mayor Moonbeam ordered the OPD to open up a can of whup-a$$ on the sewage-brained moonbats who tried to interfere with longshoremen loading supplies for the war. Oh, the delicious irony!

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