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2007-03-14 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Now you're required to ring and bag your pork

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Posted by Jacko 2007-03-14 10:18|| || Front Page|| [11 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Does this mean Pharmascists can refuse to sell contraceptives because of their religious beliefs? This opens up a very huge can of worms. We are behing taken over without even noticing it.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2007-03-14 14:45|| 2007-03-14 14:45|| Front Page Top

#2 I cannot refuse to serve you because of YOUR religion, but I can refuse to serve you because of MINE. I detect a bit of asymmetry here in that separation of church and state thing.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-03-14 15:27|| 2007-03-14 15:27|| Front Page Top

#3 "They're already adapting to our society. We need to adapt to them, too."

No, they need to adapt to our society. Our society offers them a chance to generally do what they want to do, as long as it does not infringe on others. It is a one way line to cross. We should in no way compromise that rule.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-03-14 16:50|| 2007-03-14 16:50|| Front Page Top

#4 Coming from Minneapolis this is not a surprising article. Here is how I would combat this:

take a whole armload of ham or bacon to a register that is manned by a mussie, and at a time when either the store is clogged with shoppers or there is only one cashier. When service is refused, then just walk out, leaving all that stuff on the belt. don't make a fuss, just say that it is not your job to bag your own groceries, and thank them for their service.

regarding DB's comments: the WA state ass'n of pharmacists tried doing just what you state, and the governor cut them off at the knees. I didn't vote for her, but Queen Chris surprises me in a favorable way (here it comes) especially for a Democrat.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-03-14 17:07|| 2007-03-14 17:07|| Front Page Top

#5 Dsouza was taken aback when the cashier -- who had on the traditional headscarf, or hijab, worn by many Muslim women -- refused to swipe the bacon through the checkout scanner.

"She made me scan the bacon. Then she opened the bag and made me put it in the bag," said Dsouza, 53, of Minneapolis. "It made me wonder why this person took a job as a cashier."

What it makes me wonder is a) why the hell Target doesn't fire her outright, and b) why the hell our society continues to put up with this bullshit.

Oh, I forgot: it's the damned liberals. And their damned multiculturalism. And being non-judgemental. And "inclusive". And "tolerant". And "understanding".

Damned f*cking idiots. Someday our tolerance is going to prove terminal.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-03-14 17:09|| 2007-03-14 17:09|| Front Page Top

#6 Target just lost one customer. WTF is wrong with people? That Muzzy idiot should have been fired and out the door within hours of that refusal. No, we don't have to adapt to them. They have to adapt to us or go back to the hellhole we were stupid enough to let them come here from.

Posted by Mac 2007-03-14 17:23|| 2007-03-14 17:23|| Front Page Top

#7 It is worth noting that during the Clinton administration, it was official policy at EEOC not to accept any religious discrimination cases other than those involving "proper accommodation in the workplace" ie Muslim power-plays.

I ran across this when a local personnel agency asked one of my students about his religion during an interview. They shut the door in his face when he refused to answer. I called both EEOC and the Texas Human Rights Commission on his behalf. They slammed the door in my face. "We are only accepting cases that deal with accommodation in the workplace," the bureaucrat said. I pointed out that asking religious preference was against the law and the bureaucrat simply responded that they weren't taking those cases, that is, they were refusing to enforce federal law unless it was on behalf of Muslims who already had jobs.
The idiot at the THRC was even worse. He said since the student was was an agnostic, he was not being discriminated against because of his religion, but because of the employer's, and that was legal. "We only deal with people who have been discriminated against because of their own religion, not the employer's" I pointed out that this was applying a religious test for employment, which is a violation of the law. He obtusely repeated himself.
All of these bastards have been in the pockets of the Muzzies for a long time.
Target, btw, will never see me again.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-03-14 17:41|| 2007-03-14 17:41|| Front Page Top

#8 Two options:

1) Treat Muslim cashiers and bacon like under-21 cashiers and alcohol -- they have to call over another cashier. Of course, I imagine Muslim cashiers also need someone else to ring up alcohol. This makes the incremental cost for hiring a Muslim twice that of hiring a 19-year-old. Not that retailers are allowed to take that into consideration, of course...

Oh, and that also increases the amount of time it takes a customer to get through a checklane run by a Muslim cashier. That's not gonna make customers real happy.

2) "If you aren't willing to do the job, you shouldn't take it. If you want to keep it, then you need to get over your hang-ups." You knew you were taking a job where you can be expected to handle (wrapped) pork and (bottled) alcohol. If your religion says you can't do that, then don't take the job in the first place.

And then there's a whole host of new questions:

o What about stocking the shelves? What about bagging? Are we going to have to make allowances there, too? How about the deli and the meat department?

o What about dog food and other dog-related supplies? Dogs are haram, too, right?

o With taxi drivers refusing to carry service dogs and unopened alcohol containers, what about bus drivers? Will someone heading home from the grocery store with a six pack and a pork chop in their bags be refused service by a municipal bus with a Muslim driver? What about a service dog on a municipal bus driven by a Muslim?

Forcing these issues is just a way to make us live under sharia. Our reaction should be "hey, I respect your beliefs, but this is what the job requires. If you can't do it, you'll have to find another job."

Oh, and who can forget the idiocy of the hijab-wearing cocktail waitress? Gotta wonder if the place she worked served any pork products along with their drinks...

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2007-03-14 17:46|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-03-14 17:46|| Front Page Top

#9 "We only deal with people who have been discriminated against because of their own religion, not the employer's" I pointed out that this was applying a religious test for employment, which is a violation of the law. He obtusely repeated himself.

Utter crap. You can't refuse service on the basis of religion -- yours or the potential customer's. You can't refuse to rent to someone on the basis of what your religion tells you about their behavior.

If you COULD refuse service or employment on the basis of YOUR religious beliefs, then how long will it be before some of the white-supremacist groups declare not hiring/serving blacks to be part of their religion?

And how long will that interpretation of the law last after someone refuses to hire someone because their faith says they shouldn't hire gays?

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2007-03-14 17:50|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-03-14 17:50|| Front Page Top

#10 "Your cashier either rings up my pork products the same way he/she rings up my other purchases, or I sue your company for $100 million for discrimination." A few such suits, and Target either no longer hires muslims, or a lot of people start shopping elsewhere, because Target no longer exists. Remember, it was Target that first refused to allow Salvation Army kettles outside their stores.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-03-14 17:56|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-03-14 17:56|| Front Page Top

#11 "Two options: ..."

There's a third: armed mobs going 'round in the night, taking matters into their own hands.

That's what it's going to come to eventually if we don't find some damned common sense and put a stop to this escalating "I'm a Muslim, I deserve special treatment" bullshit.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-03-14 18:04|| 2007-03-14 18:04|| Front Page Top

#12 I am afraid of heights. It is quite pathetic actually. That's why I never took a job as a window washer for highrise buildings. So why again is it OK to take a job at a grocery store when you're 'uncomfortable' with your duties? Instead of demanding that all building be made shorter, I have a job doing something else.

Posted by Chemist 2007-03-14 18:14|| 2007-03-14 18:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Don't see any 7-11's or gas stations having problems selling alcohol, hot dogs or other pork products to infidels. Immigration is a privilege and deportation a solution for those who don't wish to be American.

Posted by ed 2007-03-14 18:15|| 2007-03-14 18:15|| Front Page Top

#14 The whole point here is to force Target to no longer carry pork products. Target cannot fire them for their religion, and it's obvious customers will not put up with this nonsense for long. It's actually a very clever ploy. However the loophole is that Target can reassign them to mopping floors and cleaning toilets and other duties if they have the spine.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-03-14 18:18|| 2007-03-14 18:18|| Front Page Top

#15 #11 "Two options: ..."

There's a third: armed mobs going 'round in the night, taking matters into their own hands.

That's what it's going to come to eventually if we don't find some damned common sense and put a stop to this escalating "I'm a Muslim, I deserve special treatment" bullshit.

Dave D. - I was thinking the same thing yesterday in regards to the immigration thing and a few other things that are going on in our country these days.

Eventually, citizens will be forced to take matters into their own hands. It's even Constitutional for the citizenry to do so (though most people nor the media will realize this).

As the government and our elected representatives more and more refuse to follow the dictates of the citizenry, or simply ignore what that citizenry is saying, more and more you will find certain portions of the citizenry willing, able, and apt to react in ways that are not politically correct or aloowable under the law.

However, when a government or our elected representatives refuse to act in the face of what is clearly a criminal offense, a failure to act against a criminal offense, or an ignorance of the fact that a criminal offense is occurring against the nation, the citizenry, or the national security, the citizenry is within its rights under the Constitution to act and, if necessary, replace the elected government and elected represenatives by armed revolution.

I pray it never comes to this and I am absolutely not advocating this, but if our elected representatives and our government fail to act, the citizenry has no choice other than to actively oppose them. It is our Constitutional prerogative.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-03-14 18:40|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-03-14 18:40|| Front Page Top

#16 Oh, I'd never advocate it, either; but I am stocking up on ammo...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-03-14 18:50|| 2007-03-14 18:50|| Front Page Top

#17 Perhaps its time to start accidentally dropping ones unpackaged loins on a few Target check-outists.

Posted by Hyper 2007-03-14 20:16|| 2007-03-14 20:16|| Front Page Top

#18 Remember Target was one of the few holdouts on wishing customers "Merry Christmas" this past season. This is strike two.

Posted by regular joe 2007-03-14 21:28|| 2007-03-14 21:28|| Front Page Top

#19 I don't tolerate stores in no sunday booze villages but this would push me right over the edge.

If I was in a hurry I might put the loin right through her mouth and then walk out of the store.

Posted by 3dc 2007-03-14 21:44|| 2007-03-14 21:44|| Front Page Top

#20 Something along the same lines is going on in Australia regard what Muslims consider as appropriate. I did not see it on Rantburg yet,
I could see something like this happening in the U.S. if it catches on. Hat Tip to fark.com yesterday for this.

Muslim leaders have warned that hardline clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Sharia law.

Sydney-based Islamic leader Fadi Rahman says extremist Muslim clerics who were preaching messages against paying income taxes were also staunchly opposed to western ideologies, The Australian reports.

More of the story at link:
Muslim leaders warn of tax cheats

Posted by delphi2005 2007-03-14 21:44|| 2007-03-14 21:44|| Front Page Top

#21 Oh and Target sells beer and wine here in IL. Don't they sell it in the Twin Cities?

Posted by 3dc 2007-03-14 21:46|| 2007-03-14 21:46|| Front Page Top

#22 Muslim leaders have warned that hardline clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Sharia law.

If there is one agency that the Muzzy's DO NOT want to mess with, it is the IRS. I'd love to see them get the IRS on their asses.

Posted by Chiper Threreger8956 2007-03-14 22:24|| 2007-03-14 22:24|| Front Page Top

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