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2006-09-23 -Lurid Crime Tales-

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Posted by BrerRabbit 2006-09-23 06:15|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Now THAT's the America I know and love. More please!

Posted by lotp 2006-09-23 07:56|| 2006-09-23 07:56|| Front Page Top

#2 This is why gun control doesn't work in the US, especially. The public have the cultural expectation of both "deputization" and rendering aid. People are raised with the expectation that if no authorities are around, then they must show leadership and take charge of the situation.

If you assemble a group of people then confront them with a task, somebody will take charge and lead. The group won't wait around for authority to show up.

And when you assume the mantle of leadership, you expect to use every tool available to authority. If a policeman has a gun, and you are in a police role, you want a gun, too.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-09-23 11:32|| 2006-09-23 11:32|| Front Page Top

#3 If you click through to this story, you find the cops discouraging pack behavior.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2006-09-23 12:17|| 2006-09-23 12:17|| Front Page Top

#4 That's right Angie. There would be more civil actions like this if the cops didn't punish and discourage people from action. When the public is fed up enough or the consequences so dire, they act anyway. If anyone would think about it, how many times are cops available to act and prevent crime. Damned few. Less than 10% , I'd guess. They make their presence known only AFTER the fact.

Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-09-23 12:32|| 2006-09-23 12:32|| Front Page Top

#5 One small comment; as a former police officer (albeit from a small town) one of the disadvantagges of having enough police around to nip in the bud all/everything going down that is bad, is we would have the police as an overwhewlming presence in our daily lives. Having said that, I agree with the concept of an armed citizenery to act (hopefully in a civil/justified manner) when the police are not immediately available.

Posted by WolfDog 2006-09-23 13:16|| 2006-09-23 13:16|| Front Page Top

#6 WolfDog - true enough. They (the police) should, however, can the crap about calling it in when a simian thug is breaking through the front door (or in the Capitol). Kill or incapacitate em any way you can. No cop will be there in time to save your ass (or your family). You have the right and the responsibility to do it - any way possible. Would've been nice if teh flag shop staff had speared him with a sharpened American flag staff.

**hey! I can dream!*

Posted by Frank G 2006-09-23 14:00|| 2006-09-23 14:00|| Front Page Top

#7 Good insight Wolf, always better too few Policemen than too many Cops.

Posted by 6 2006-09-23 14:28|| 2006-09-23 14:28|| Front Page Top

#8 and yet you need a permit to have a chainsaw in the US.

Why on earth would you be able to have a gun with no permit, but need a permit for a chainsaw?

I have a chainsaw, I often need to use it in the garden.

I don't have a gun, I could get a permit if I wanted to but why would i bother? If i see a dangerous situation I will call the police rather than get involved as *they* are properly trained to deal with the situation and are paid to take the danger.

There are a huge number of gun deaths every year in the US - something like 30,000. I was shocked when I saw how many there were. Many more die in the US from gun shot wounds daily than die serving in Iraq.

It seems ridiculous to me. I live in Australia and gun deaths while occassional are not common.

I am very glad we have gun control laws. I think we are spared a lot of tragedy because of it.

I certainly feel safer walking the streets here knowing that any loon who wants one doesn't pack a pistol.

When I travelled in the US I remember feeling quite freaked out when I talked to a couple of campers and they told me they had a gun in their camper van. You walk around and anybody could be packing heat. That is quite a scary thought given how many people are nutters, loons, too tired, too much caffeine, on drugs, paranoid or incompetent.

Posted by anon1 2006-09-23 23:00|| 2006-09-23 23:00|| Front Page Top

#9 chainsaw permit? huh? Not even in Southern California, anon1. You need permits to take wood from Nat'l Forestland, but might be you've been misinformed....

Posted by Frank G 2006-09-23 23:05|| 2006-09-23 23:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Sorry that was in reply to Anonymoose.

But in reply to citizens taking action: I'm all for it!!

We should in fact band together with our friends and neighbours and form emergency response teams of our own I think.

Have a meeting once a month, make sure you have a group list on your mobile phone so you can send an emergency text message like: Gang of hoodlums harrassing two girls at bus stop corner of Lane St and Smith Ave, Burkeville. Attend in 5 mins if you can.

Then we could sort out a lot of our own problems: more effectively. You need a big group to show up.

Posted by anon1 2006-09-23 23:06|| 2006-09-23 23:06|| Front Page Top

#11 :-) I apologize then

Posted by Frank G 2006-09-23 23:09|| 2006-09-23 23:09|| Front Page Top

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