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2006-07-16 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Nasrallah on CNN - we will fight, we regret Israeli-caused destruction
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Posted by lotp 2006-07-16 11:27|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Islam rule seems to say no-one is allowed to hit a muslim back. Funny, not our rule. And now we're going to play by our rules.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-07-16 11:33||   2006-07-16 11:33|| Front Page Top

#2 It's time to go Old Testament on Syria and Iran.
Posted by mac 2006-07-16 11:37||   2006-07-16 11:37|| Front Page Top

#3 It IS a PR battle, and as such, Israel cannot win. That is why I said in the very beginning that Israel's actions had to be fast - as hard as possible, but FAST. They're about out of time. Check the MSM, the blogs, international diplospeak - it's all about how many innocent children Israel has killed. Not how many innocent Israelis Hezbollah has killed. (Even I, biased as I am, question some of Israel's targetting, but what do I know.)
I have seen some discussion of 'banned weapons' in use or about to be used by Israel - white phosphorus - not exactly what most of us would consider a banned weapon.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2006-07-16 11:40||   2006-07-16 11:40|| Front Page Top

#4 So what, Glenmore?

It's not as though Israel has anything to lose, is it?

Massive internationsl condemnation? That's already the case. WHO THE FUCK CARES, besides the usual Tranzi bitches? Yawn.

It takes time to evacuate friendlies, such as the US citizens that are leaving Beirut. A courtesy. And it also means this baby's just starting. Window of time? A week? Give me / us a break.

Israel is finally planning to do the deed: kill Hizbollah. Olmert was clear. What anyone other than their only ally, the US, thinks is completely irrelevant. They have no popularity points to lose. They do have an obligation to stop the rain of rockets, i.e. protect their people.

If they were to stop now, because the MSM is lining up against them, then they'd deserve to lose. That they are NOT wimping out because Marvin Kalb or some other useful tool says, is very VERY encouraging. Do it Olmert. Kill the Hizbollah bitch.
Posted by Unereth Whaiper7910 2006-07-16 11:57||   2006-07-16 11:57|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm not so sure about being out of time, Glenmore.

1) There isn't a lot of condemnation flowing out of the ME, at least the Sunni part, beyond pro forma condemnations for domestic consumption. I suspect a lot of them would be happy to watch Israel take Hisballah, Syria and Iran down a notch or two.

2)Bush has never responded well, i. e. at all, to media pressure. Sure, he withdrew Harriet Miers, but that was because he didn't have the votes, not the newspapers.

3) The Arabs keep making their own media errors. Sure, the MSM helps cover them up quickly, notice all the coverage and outrage about the Egyptian ship Hisballah/Iran sank? But I'll bet Hosni hasn't forgotten about it, or the threat their friends pose to him and his dynastic succession.

I think they've got enough time to let Iran make a really dumb move. Then W will send the thank you note.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-16 12:02||   2006-07-16 12:02|| Front Page Top

#6 The other great unknown here is exactly how much of a hurtin has already been put on the Hezzi's... most people assume that with 24 hour CNN coverage, we are all up to speed. However, military damage reports on both sides take a bit of time to compile, and access.
Just seeing black smoke from the distance doesn't begin to even get to the issue of whats been blown up... and not all missions in war are about destruction...
I will only say that no matter who is politically in charge of Israel, the war game scenarios have been played out in Israel more times that our local gang bangers copy of "Grand Theft Auto" has been booted up.

Posted by Capsu78 2006-07-16 12:36||   2006-07-16 12:36|| Front Page Top

#7 I observe the absolute lack of condemnation by Israel's Arab neighbours....Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia. There has been an ongoing transformation in the middle east that the MSM has completely overlooked (as usual) and that is the power play that Iran is making to dominate the Arab world. Also notice how Gaza and Hamas has disappeared from the news. By the time Israel has put the rout on Hezbollah, Hamas will no longer exist.

Does not appear anybody east of the West Bank is unhappy about the current situation. Nasrallah speech was a call for help aimed at Tehran. The Mullahs just might blink and hang him out to dry. After all, if they have the bomb, they really do not need Hezbollah any more.

If the claim that the kidnapped soldiers are at the Iranian embassy in Beruit is true, then they might have committed a major PR blunder. They hardly want to remind the world about hostage taking.
Posted by john">john  2006-07-16 20:09||   2006-07-16 20:09|| Front Page Top

#8 Iran may not help Nasrallah because it can't. It can't start a war with Israel any more easily than Israel could prosecute one with Iran. Iran needs to be careful it doesn't give Uncle and excuse to whack it. That's why I'm applying the 48 hour rule to the embassy venue rumor, though it may be a very safe place. Iran is going to cool it, for Iran, and hope it can get the nuke finished.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-16 20:18||   2006-07-16 20:18|| Front Page Top

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