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2006-07-10 Britain

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Posted by Seafarious 2006-07-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Full Nelson?

Posted by gromgoru 2006-07-10 16:52|| 2006-07-10 16:52|| Front Page Top

#2 It's funny to think a nation that needs to outlaw pointed kitchen knives could give the U.S. so much shit, isn't it?

Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-07-10 17:14|| 2006-07-10 17:14|| Front Page Top

#3 Full Nelson break arms, too savage.

Posted by 6 2006-07-10 17:49|| 2006-07-10 17:49|| Front Page Top

#4 There is a direct correlation between the number of men who serve in the military, and the number of adult men who teach young men good values. That is, if Britain wants "hoodies" to grow up and become responsible, the hoodies need to be under the supervision of vets who know discipline.

Armies are expensive, because they are expected to fight in a modern war. But armies are much less expensive if they just exist to train young men with military discipline. So Britain should put every capable young man who is unemployed into such training regiments.

After a year of training, they are given their pay in one lump sum, and set to find work in an organized manner, or they can stay in the ranks and be trained as a regular. Unemployment is no longer an option. They have a choice of several jobs fitting their talent, but they must work for another year or back to the army they go.

This solves several problems at once. It takes young men off the streets, without interfering with those who have work. It really reduces unemployment, so wages go up. It keeps the young men physically fit while teaching them discipline. It provides a large pool for recruiting the best into the military. And it radically reduces crime and mischief.

In turn, the men who come out of the programme have a soothing effect in the universities, wanting an education, not to slack off and make trouble, and not tolerant of those who do.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-07-10 21:09|| 2006-07-10 21:09|| Front Page Top

#5 I'd agree if the training were US style - preferably Marine, Paris Island - I can't speak to UK training, which has a reputation for idiotic hazing and abuse.

In the US, it did wonders for me and several equally obnoxious jerks I knew. I went in a hothead gang tough, with more than a few busted heads and stolen cars to my "credit". The very first thing I learned, in spades, was that I wasn't nearly as tough as I thought. The instructors were 5 times as fit, infinitely tougher mentally, and my betters in every respect.

By the time I completed basic, they had worked the baby fat (I thought was muscle) off, remade me into someone who took pride in hard work, and gave me the seeds of a whole new personality, one worthy of my birthright as an American.

On my first leave, the astonishment of my former friends was something to behold. It was only surpassed by my own. I left the losers behind and never looked back.

I recall my service with honest humility and thanks for what they did for me. I can't say if it would work for the "hoodies" and the UK, but it's an idea that deserves their serious consideration.

Posted by Wheang Spavirong9833 2006-07-10 21:30|| 2006-07-10 21:30|| Front Page Top

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