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2006-03-27 Iraq
Confusion over Baghdad violence
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-03-27 02:52|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 A Sadr hit and they get their BS version on the air in record time. This Iranian plan actually worked... so far.

Jaafari is complicit - he knows US troops don't enter mosques, tie people up and execute them. Puppet Prick.

And, of course, so is Iraqiya state television.

All f..king Iranian puppets.

We've wasted so much hoping these morons will rise above sectarian hate. The only thing they hate worse than each other is everyone else.
Posted by Whimble Ebberetch1516 2006-03-27 05:15||   2006-03-27 05:15|| Front Page Top

#2 Reuters, always first with the (non) news, so long as its import is anti-US.

MNC-I will be doing a briefing later today on the incident. Of course it's 100% nonsense (the Sadr claim). But some have urged our spokesmen to start going way beyond mere factual correction and refutation, and start slamming the Iraqis for their slanders and the media (both flavors) for their parroting of same.

BTW, apparently the 30 "beheaded" bodies may well also be a complete fabrication. So far the Coalition has not been able to confirm the IA report.

Posted by Verlaine in Iraq 2006-03-27 06:24||   2006-03-27 06:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Hi Verlaine! It sounds like they are keeping you busy. :-) Please do use the opportunity to say more than just the facts -- openly correct errors, too. Secretary Rumsfeld gets a lot of mileage when he sets his questioners straight. And the Iraqis need to understand we are not there as their Janissaries, and we will not put up with abuse.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-03-27 07:20||   2006-03-27 07:20|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm so glad the Marines are not tieing up folks and executing them, let alone beheading them.

Hey! Waitaminute! Isn't that a Zarqai modus operandi?
Posted by Bobby 2006-03-27 07:35||   2006-03-27 07:35|| Front Page Top

#5 I believe it's a Koran modus operandi.
Posted by wxjames 2006-03-27 08:04||   2006-03-27 08:04|| Front Page Top

#6 There's this from.. http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/

American forces clashed with Mahdi army militiamen at the Ur district (Hayy Ur), west of Sadr city in Baghdad. It seems an American force attempted to raid a husseiniya in the area and was resisted by militiamen inside.

Between 18 and 21 militiamen have been killed, and the Al-Mustafa Husseiniya was reported to be badly damaged in the ensuing firefight.

I was on the phone with a colleague who lived there and he described it as a battlefield. Apache helicopters and jet fighters are still circling the area.

Al-Iraqiya TV just aired some images from the husseiniya. 17 'guards' were killed. One of the corpses carried a Da'wa party (Iraq organisation) ID, and another carried an ID issued by the Islamic Conference of Iraqi Tribes.

Someone in the background was asking the cameraman to film grenades lying around the corpses, to which the cameraman responded: "I can't show our guys' grenades."

"No, these are American grenades," the man in the background explained.

"Oh, okay I'll film them."

Al-Iraqiya TV was very critical of the attack, and is describing those killed as martyrs.

# posted by Zeyad : 3/26/2006 09:36:00 PM
Posted by RD 2006-03-27 11:33||   2006-03-27 11:33|| Front Page Top

#7 What has become very telling in this backdrop of violence is the lack of refugees. If this were a true civil war wouldn’t thousands of Iraqis fleeing the “violence” for “safer” countries? I am no expert, but I suspect we are seeing more tit-for-tat revenge killings and the run-of-the-mill Iraqi knows they are not a target and doesn’t feel threatened by the killings. Now if somebody can point me to the reports of roaming bands of Sunnia/Shia/Kurds that are grab random people off the streets for execution I will consider my hypothesis null and void. Given the violence of the past it is surprising that more revenge killings are not being carried out.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-03-27 11:39||   2006-03-27 11:39|| Front Page Top

#8 cyber sarge - they dont have to flee to safer countries, because the "civil warrish" stuff is confined to a few areas of Iraq. Heard a story about a refugee camp being set up in Najaf for Shiite refugees from the "triangle of death" south of Baghdad, and from Baghdad itself. Yet another glass half full glass half empty story - Najaf is safe, the "triangel of death" is one of the most ethnically polarized places in the country (its an area where Saddam had been bringing in Sunni "settlers" to a Shiite area) OTOH there DO seem to be internal refugees.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-03-27 11:53||   2006-03-27 11:53|| Front Page Top

#9 This looks like it might be the CentCom press release for the same incident more generally being portrayed as a US execution of worshipers.

BAGHDAD, Iraq – Soldiers from the 1st and 2nd Battalions, 1st Iraqi Special Operations Forces Brigade, conducted a coordinated operation in northeast Baghdad March 26 to capture and detain insurgents responsible for kidnapping and execution activities.

Iraqi Commandos and Soldiers from the Iraqi Counterterrorism Force killed 16 insurgents and wounded three others during a house-to-house search on an objective with multiple structures. They also detained 18 other individuals, discovered a significant weapons cache and secured the release of an Iraqi being held hostage.

The security force of ISOF Soldiers received fire almost immediately from several buildings near the target area. They maintained the outer perimeter that enabled an assault force to move quickly to clear and secure the objective, a compound of several buildings in the Adhamiyah neighborhood in northeast Baghdad.

The weapons cache discovered on the objective included 32 AK-47 assault rifles, five grenades, four rocket-propelled grenades, two RPG launchers, two RPK heavy machine guns, 12 crush switch indicators used to make improvised explosive devices and several rounds of ammunition. The cache was destroyed on the scene along with two vehicles that contained weapons and IED making material.

The hostage, a dental technician with the Ministry of Health, was kidnapped earlier March 26 as he was walking outside of his office. During the next 12 hours, his captors beat him and threatened to torture him. After ISOF Soldiers rescued him, they took him to an undisclosed location where he received medical care from Iraqi doctors. No further information on his condition is available at this time.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2006-03-27 12:12||   2006-03-27 12:12|| Front Page Top

#10 More from Bill Roggio
Powerplay
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The political maneuvering has begun in the aftermath of the raid on the Mahdi Army headquarters in the Hayy Ur neighborhood. Jawad al-Maliki, an ally of Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari and spokesman for the United Iraqi Alliance, has called "for a rapid restoration of (control of) security matters to the Iraqi government," according to Reuters. Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty reports "Iraqi Interior Minister Bayan Jabr today described the killing as 'unjustified.' Baghdad provincial Governor Husayn al-Tahan said he has suspended cooperation with U.S. forces until an independent investigation can be carried out."
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It should be noted that the Iraqi politicians condemning the raid in Hayy Ur are allies of Jaafari and Muqtada al-Sadr, and the various other political groups (the Kurdish alliance, the Sunni groups, Allawi's secular party and even SCIRI) have remained silent on this issue.

Posted by RD 2006-03-27 13:12||   2006-03-27 13:12|| Front Page Top

#11 Sectarian troops would have to be able to concentrate, in order to carry out a civil war. This operation has shown that small concentrations can be crushed on short notice.

Atrocity propaganda should not issue from Iraq media. Collateral damage is regretable but: blame those who hide behind civilians. A lying press is not a free press.
Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-03-27 16:59||   2006-03-27 16:59|| Front Page Top

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