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2005-11-01 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
U.N. Security Council OKs Syria Resolution
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Posted by Fred 2005-11-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Would the U.N. actually have the stones to ask Asad to arrest his brother? Chance of compliance is near zero but it would be fun to see them squirm. This Mehlis report has restored some of my faith in the U.N. I now concede that it can be tolerated if it plays certain limited roles, such as this one and a few of their less corrupt humanitarian projects. Whereas before I wanted it "wiped off the map."
Posted by John in Tokyo 2005-11-01 00:41||   2005-11-01 00:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Pretty generous, John. :)

The ROI still sucks, though, lol. I believe you could achieve the same effect, or better, in far less time and with far lower frustration levels by unleashing the US Military to respond to provocation and applying PlainSpeak©. Too much playing nice, mouthing DiploBabble©, leads them to believe we are much like the others in the UN, neutered and actually uninterested, if properly "handled". I'd prefer they felt handling us was the same as poking a polar bear in the eye. I would prefer to spend all that UN money on our troops - yielding a far better return in both the short and long terms, methinks.

Even under the most favorable light, I still equate the UN with a decomposing dead rat on the kitchen floor.
Posted by .com 2005-11-01 02:44||   2005-11-01 02:44|| Front Page Top

#3 "Would the U.N. actually have the stones to ask Asad to arrest his brother?"

The UN does not exist for the purpose of this question. All that matters is whether the US, UK, France, Russia and China have the stones.

The US and UK clearly do.

Russia and China clearly dont want it to happen - but they would likely be antsie about casting vetoes against the western 3, and the (likely) majority of the rest of the Council, and in defense of a Syria that keeps embarrassing them. They also dislike violations of soveriegnty - which they see as precedents for intervention by outsiders in Chechbya, Tibet, Taiwan, etc. But which is a bigger violation of sovereignty - UN sanctions on Syria, or Syria knocking off Hariri in Lebanon?

The swing country is, as usual France. France's motives are mixed. On the one hand a strong traditional interest in Lebanon, and personal ties to Hariri. On the other the usual dislike of US influence in the region - somewhat softened in recent months, as everyone on both sides of the pond figures out that US-Euro clashes only help our real adversaries (no coincidenece that this reevaluation has happened since Dr. Rice took over at State) On the other hand France probabably still wants to keep the France-German-Russian axis, as a balance to dependence on the "anglo-saxons". On the other hand, Putin has been a very difficult partner, and German politics has shifted, albeit subtly.

Net-net - it could go either way. ;)
Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-11-01 09:52||   2005-11-01 09:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Speaking of the Germans, has anyone heard from our friend TGA since the formation of the new government? Some how I suspect his participation in it has muzzled him. Well, better to have him on the inside making history than outside watching. Good luck, TGA.
Posted by Snavimble Gloluns6928 2005-11-01 09:56||   2005-11-01 09:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Yes, I've missed him as well. Good luck in whatever you're doing, TGA.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-11-01 10:11||   2005-11-01 10:11|| Front Page Top

#6 I think TGA was greatly distressed/disgusted with the election results.
Posted by Shipman 2005-11-01 12:45||   2005-11-01 12:45|| Front Page Top

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